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Good evening and As-salamu alaykum.
Welcome to the /pol/ nightly Islam thread, a space for dialogue and understanding.
Myself and my Muslim brothers and sisters will try our best to clear up any misunderstandings or misgivings you may have about the world's fastest growing and oldest religion, Islam.
As always, serious questions will get serious answers. Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
Talking point: Why do so-called conservatives in the west demonize any person who shares their socially-conservative family-based values, if the source of those values is Islam?
Fun fact: Christian women used to wear a veil - because God (SWT) demands modesty. Christian women also used to attend church and abstain from pre-marital sex.
>>74712974
Fuck allah and fuck you
>>74712974
>Fun fact: Christian women used to wear a veil
yes, 200 fucking years ago
>>74712974
Inshallah my brother
Your candy tastes like shit anyway
>>74712974
KILL
YOURSELF
Wallaaaaahi bro
>>74713242
Unless you are denying the obvious, provable decline in Christian values in the west over the centuries, your statement is a QED for me.
>Canada
Oh wait, never mind. You're probably a Chinese atheist/communist dog.
>>74712974
I can't wait to tri-nuke Mecca, Riyadh, and Medina before invading the middle east, putting all the muslim men and boys to death in the most beautifully greusome spectacles such as dismemberment, implament, and feeding them to wild animals. The women and girls will be used as cattle to be filled up full of white christian cock and be bred until they hit menopause while their brothers, sons, fathers, and husbands all die in the ultimate holocaust. Imagine your precious muslim hijabi women being fucked in every hole like the good little brown whores they are while you get your balls ripped out and fed to lions.
>>74712974
>oldest religion
>being this retarded
>>74712974
These are your women every time they see a Christian bull ready to breed them with their BWCs
>>74712974
What I would prefer is candy that doesn't explode.
>>74713242
Orthodox women still do in Church
>>74712974
You really think anyone cares about what you have to say when you put bullshit like Islam being the oldest religion in the OP? Its childish beliefs like that that ensure no one will take you seriously, simultaneously claiming to be the oldest and fastest growing religion. Fast growth is a result of people converting to Islam who never heard of it, which is impossible to not hear of it if somehow the first man on earth was Muslim. Even jews don't claim Adam was a jew, because they recognize that would be retarded in the context of their faith
come home, white man
>>74712974
I would prefer something that's not a false equivalence, tyvm
>>74712974
>wrapped candy
>may conceal razor blade or TNT under the wrapper
I don't like junk food anyway
>>74713450
>>74713512
>>74713567
>>74713572
Halal in the streets, haram in the sheets
>>74712974
Do you and your moderate brethren support death for unbelievers, taxes on unbelievers, death for leaving Islam, women must obey unconditionally?
>>74712974
moohmed was a pedophile.
>>74712974
Serious question- why don't more Muslim communities speak out against violence by Muslims against non Muslims?
You follow Satan's religion, you have a cover over your eyes. Release it and believe in the actual God of this universe. Believe in Jesus Christ, humanity's Lord and Savior. Don't let Satan keep deceiving you. You follow a religion of lies and violence. Experience the true love of God and stop following a false prophet.
More pictures of muslim women being desecrated and defiled please
>>74713491
>oldest religion
>Quran talks about jesus
>>74712974
you will slide or lie about this picture
>>74713739
Because Islamophobia is the greater evil
>>74712974
>have a 2000+ year head start on civilisation to the west
>culture leads to doggish obedience and literalism
>christians rebel and separate church and state
>make scientific breakthroughs
>end up most prosperous countries on earth
>muslims meanwhile spend all day reciting the quran
>hajjis cry and immigrate/exploit western generosity since their culture led to shit countries
>hajjis subsequently go to western countries
>brag about their supposed cultural supremacy which led to them abandoning their homelands
the fucking gall
looks like a poo in a loo
>>74713759
I have some good material, but I don't want to get banned for porn
>>74712974
Muslim girls are the biggest sluts for some reason, I know girls from many different religions but none of them come close to the false modesty and sluttishness of Muslims
I'm genuinely curious as to why they're like this
>>74713935
Mod's are asleep.
>>74712974
Kill them all
>>74713745
>he doesn't worship Kek or pagan dieties
God has turned a blind eye to the crimes of his brother, Allah. Even the Patriarch is tacitly welcoming the replacement of Europeans.
>>74714049
In my defense, this is a NSFW board
>>74714179
have sauce mate
>>74714297
Women of the Middle East
Would you prefer a wrapped cock or a cut one ?
#WEGOTTHISCOVERED
There were some crazy anti islam people on my campus freaking out on some muslim girl so I went to her defense. boy was that a mistake. 30 seconds after I walked away she came up to me and I asked my faith, I said christian, she started flipping shit and saying how everything I believe in is a lie. MFW I realized they hate everything
>>74712974
How can you claim it's the oldest religion?
>>74712974
Fuck you and your imaginary god
>>74714455
serves you right, you trusted a mudslime
>>74714616
I learned my lesson.
>>74713636
> Even jews don't claim Adam was a jew, because they recognize that would be retarded in the context of their faith
The ignorance on display in this one sentence is comical, but I pity you so I'll educate you a little.
The be a "Jew" is the be a descendent of the tribe of the Israelites, the "chosen people" of the Jewish tradition.
To be a "Muslim" is to submit to Allah (SWT) and His will.
It goes without saying that Adam submits to Allah (SWT) and makes the first covenant with Him. It is only much later with Abraham's covenant do we begin to see the distinction being fleshed out of the "Israelite" tribe and the other tribes.
Unlike Christianity, which decided early on to accept the Jewish bible alongside the Gospels (and as a result, pick and choose which parts of Mosaic law to follow, and which to ignore - all the while tacitly acknowledging that the Jewish people - who still exist - were and by their own book remain God's chosen people) in Islam we understand that these texts were corrupted by men. The fact that the tribe of the Israelites used their power and influence to claim special privileges based on birth rite is not a new or unexpected thing.
In Islam we reject all of that.
In short, Islam is not a blood cult, like Judaism. The only demand of a Muslim is submission.
>>74713739
Pic related
>>74714351
one's a christian, the other's hispanic
lmao
Muslimbro sure gave up on his shitty thread pretty fast.
This is now a thread about the TRUTH of Islam.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
>>74712974
THESE THREAD STILL EXISTS?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DIE IN A FIRE. WE'RE BACK BABY!
>>74714760
TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM? RIGHT THIS WAY SIR.
>>74712974
Allah is the greatest of deceivers.
>>74714665
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
Link related :^)
you're washed up OP
>>74715133
Here's a (you)
>My sides
got head from this muslim chick
>>74714665
>be muhammad
>be married to rich old bitch
>go into cave
>suffer epileptic fit
>THIS WAS GOD
>god wants you to make me emperor
>I want 5 wives
>little girl too
>My descendants will be rulers
>idolatry is wrong, but bow to this rock i found 5x a day
retards still obey the rules of a long-dead psychopathic madman.
>Oldest Religion
>Quran talks about how bad Jews are
ok
>>74712974
Islam has no place in Europe, fuck off.
>>74715553
>Islam has no place in earth, fuck off.
But I'm just too enthusiastic about it.
OP is...
B T F O
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F
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>>74715400
The fact Americans don't know the first thing about the teachings of Islam is not the thing that troubles me the most.
No, what troubles me the most is your complete lack of desire to understand.
If you are so afraid of Islam as an existential threat, you should educate yourself about Islam, at least to the extent that you would know that the Prophet Muhmammad (SAW) restored the original faith that was corrupted precisely by the Jews, the Christians and others who re-interpreted and modified the texts to fit the interests of their own tribes.
It's all there in the Qur'an and Hadith tradition.
But I guess you'd rather just sit around drinking mountain dew and ordering McDonald's delivery from your sofa, playing Halo 6 and trolling sick memes on 4chans saying Muslims is faggits and shit, right?
Meanwhile your civilisation is crumbling around you because you've failed to pay attention to any of the good parts of your own (Christian) tradition, and allowed the corruption - the very corruption, planted by insidious Jews, that the Quranic revelation's entire raison d'etre was for removing - to take over.
Now your women are the laughing stock of the world. White women are little more than sexual objects in the east. They are about as respectable as dogs. Would you marry one? The sad truth is you probably would, out of some nonsensical sense of race loyalty (a Jewish deception) you will probably marry a woman who first engaged in premarital sex in school, and has had literally dozens of penises inside her.
>>74716029
>saying Muslims is faggits and shit, right?
But Muslims are faggits. It's all in there in the Koran and the Hadiths.
>>74712974
Where did you learn to make candy explode?
>>74716029
>prophet rapes 9 year old child
>he purified corrupted religions
topkek, what is it like to be a slave to a long dead psychopathic warlord? Do you bow to the designated rock five times a day?
>>74713246
What to throw down? Let's brawl you fucking mongrel
>>74716029
Jesus said "He who denies the father and the son, is the Antichrist"
>>74716523
Finally a leaf who has balls, kill the shitskin for all of us.
>>74712974
i dont like candys that explode in my mouth...
Polish anons have a duty to find OP and destroy his computer
>>74712974
Shalom Aleichem.
>Fun fact: Christian women used to wear a veil - because God (SWT) demands modesty. Christian women also used to attend church and abstain from pre-marital sex.
true that. also good troll. mohammed invented a new religion because the rabbis wouldn't follow an illiterate schizophrenic. that said not all of his followers suck.
>>74716806
>>74715400
>oldest religion
Waht? Islam is the youngest monotheistic religion as if you compare it to acvtually old religions like hinduism it's an infant. It's bascially a pale copy of christianity adapted for the social norms of dark ages western asia.
then unlike chrisitanity which at some point rralized how moronic it was, ilsam just kept pushing on without a single modification into the modern age.
and make no mistake, islam is the future. there's no fighting a culturee that ensures you have 9 kids by the time you're 18 with a culture that teaches you it's fine to maybe have one kid when you're thirty-five
>>74716029
Hey, can you stop insulting women based on their sexual history? It's possible for people to change.
>>74712974
Good evening/morning,
Only recently have I obtained an English translation of the Qur'an. Although I hope to eventually read it completely, which surah(s) would be recommended for reading so that I may obtain a good sense of the central doctrines of Islam?
Thank you in advance.
>>74717187
>Islam is the youngest monotheistic religion
Not according to Islam silly.
>pic unrelated
>>74717187
Their birthrates would be fine if they stayed in their shitty mudholes to have 5 of those 9 kids die of dysentery.
But we did the dumbest thing possible. We treated them like sane rational humans and brought them home with us.
ALLAH AKBAR
MUSLIM DIASPORA RISE AND TAKE OVER
>>74712974
God is not real fuck allah
>>74717413
RARE
A
R
E
>>74717278
You don't cherry-pick a book you stupid fuck.
Read the whole thing and see for real what Islam is really about.
>>74714455
>thathappened.jpg
>>74717278
Actually, the second one is gonna give you a pretty good idea of what's up. If you go all the way up to nine, you'll have covered a lot of the juicy stuff. There's also some other interesting stuff later on like pic related.
mass-extinction of whitey when?
YALLA YALLA HABIBI!
>>74717784
And durka durka to you.
>>74717784
Habeeb it?
>>74717844
u r so assmad lmao
>>74714665
>Islam is not a blood cult
How come we see moslamic men with three or four fancy names boast about how his tribe descended feom some guy who met Mohammed at some pageant a thousand and some hundred years ago? How come this creates tensions so severe that these families go after each other because of this?
Can someone post that meme about how Islam is basically twins with /pol/ (i.e. hates Jews, enforces traditional family values, provokes violence against those who disagree with them)?
>>74717573
and she tried quoting the bible at me. awful job of it albeit.
MFW
>>74718010
lmao xD
>>74712974
Whats the punishment for changing religions according to your Koran?
>>74718095
Death by hanging, inshallah
>>74713709
No
No
No
Yes
>>74712974
lol if I unwrap a candybar in public, the candybar's father isn't gonna throw acid on its candybar face.
#notallcandies
>>74714665
You never disagreed with my statement though, just merely went into the ridiculous thought process you people have. Adam did not submit to God, he explicitly disobeyed him. That is the point of the story. You really can't see how absurd it is to claim that every patriarch of the jewish people and then Jesus was a Muslim, and then randomly all Jews and Christians decided to ignore all their patriarchs and change the religion. For no reason without warning. And so God allows this to go on for 600 years and then contacts an illiterate pedophile in Saudi Arabia, tells him a reworked canon that combines Christian and Jewish practices, and tells him to make a religion that requires acknowledgement of him as the last prophet ever and retroactively make all important figures the same religion as him. Meanwhile we have a Jewish community that has remained unbroken in its belief and traditions for millenia, and Christians with centuries of Apostolic succession from Peter has somehow got it wrong and this guy from Saudi Arabia knows whats up. This is fucking stupid, every single thing Islam has is stolen. Your black rock was pagan, you took Jerusalem and claimed it is holy to you, and then stole all Christian churches you could and called them mosques. You are the niggerest of religions, WE WUZ JEWS AND SHIT levels of stupid, and you have nothing to be proud of.
>oldest religion
Why do you have to do this? Why do you just have to make yourself look so stupid? Is it because you're baiting me? Are you hurting my feelings in such a way? Stop it.
>>74717742
if whites were Muslim there would be 3 billion of them now
>>74718095
nothing, quran not like hadith (new testament)
>>74712974
>Would you prefer someone who practices and supports Sharia Law or something with a brain?
Such a hard question.
>>74712974
Allahu Akbar, blow up as many builds I can. Allahu bless America.
>>74712974
I have read the Quran. How do you in good faith justify the suggested violence & hatred towards non-muslims in that book?
>>74712974
Section 8 of religions. You people are fucking mud.
>>74712974
RE: image
Women are not food or other consumable.
>>74718337
stop lying Poland.
> Indonesia
We should really go back 70 years ago.
>>74718321
If whites were muslims we might as well be dead.
>>74718337
Liar.
>>74718095
Here ya go m8
>>74718610
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx
Forgot link
>>74716029
>White women are little more than sexual objects in the east.
This is what cuck fetishists on /pol/ actually believe. Meanwhile in reality, white women are globally the most sought-after demographic of women, with white men being the primary group that gets with them in virtually all situations.
>>74712974
LACK OF VITAMIN D
/r/ omegle chat where ex-muslim spills the beans on islam
>>74718095
Do you think those who betray and are traitors to God don't deserve death? You will burn in hell, and be raped, and watch your shitty inbred family be tortured by God criminal scum.
>>74718876
I wish more /pol/lacks realized this instead of acting like cuck faggots...
>>74718610
>Liar
he's not, but 99% of muslims consider the hadith at the same bar as the quran, so it really doesn't matter
Friendly reminder to never actually marry sandniggers, because if you think women "age fast", you'd shit your pants at the speed your "high test" sandnigger turns into a barrel bomb figuratively and maybe even literally.
>>74714665
#religionofpeace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks#2015
>islam
>oldest religion
>>74718474
Oh now bitchboy is a feminist. Why don't you go let your wife fuck Jamal, you can stay in the cuckshed while she does it. If you are good she may allow you to clean her up with her tongue.
>>74718514
You realize Europeans and Christians were like that in the past, and the middle ages were the high point of western civilization. Your "civilization" is actually less than the past because of humanist, equal rights, and tolerance. Because you abandoned conservatism God punished you, and you and your family will suffer the price because of your people's foolishness.
>>74712974
>5 virgins have been deposited into your afterlife
>>74719155
uhuh.
Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."
Quran (9:11-12) - "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist."
>>74719174
Ok and if you marry a snow whore, you'll get divorced lose half your savings and have to pay her alimony and watch her fuck her new big dick dark stallion. Don't you know foreigners fuck better.
http://www.dailystormer.com/femen-calls-on-french-women-to-have-sex-with-foreigners-and-produce-children/
>>74719052
Sometimes it takes a while till that HANG ON moment comes where I realize that someone is just projecting their personal experiences of being used and abused by women onto the entire species, like it's nothing...
>>74719335
Both verses are talking about muhammed's wars/Jihad, nothing to do with apostasy. Apostasy is only punished in the hadith, it's a well known fact among islamic scholars, that's why they can never forgo of the hadith.
>>74719245
>>74719358
> middle ages were a high point for the west
Shitskins never fail to disappoint. If the middle ages were a high point, every non-white peon would have gotten the American Indian treatment.
> snow whore
Goddamn, it's like a kindergartner is trying to trigger me, how cute.
> don't you know about them foreigner memes??XDD
> here's a fucking femen leaflet!
Just in case you're a turbovirgin (which you probably are, I mean come on, you're a fucking shitskin - literally the ugliest people on the planet) let me remind you that cuckbaitposting only works on other turbovirgins.
>>74712974
i am buddhist and i want to date a hijab-wearing muslima
how can i achieve a marriage with one of your muslim sisters?
>don't want to mutilate my dick
>nor do i want to convert to any religion
>>74712974
Fuck Allah,and the Prophet Mohammed the pig-blooded child rapist. You are not welcome in Europe or the Americas. You may have Africa if you wish.
If Muhammad wasn't a genocidal sinner who made laws for only his own benefit, undermined his whole religion constantly, caused the deaths of millions and still causing more today I'd say Islam is ok. However since that's not the case its better for the whole of humanity to ban Islam for our own good. If you all abandon your sinning ways you can still find the light of God through a bloodless path.
>>74712974
Stop with your jihadi lying nonsense and fuck off back to whichever sand dune you crawled out of. Islam has no place in the first world. You want to come here and turn our countries into the shit holes you came from.
>>74719537
Those Hadiths are supported by parts of the Quran
217. They ask you concerning fighting in the Sacred Months (i.e. 1st, 7th, 11th and 12th months of the Islamic calendar). Say, "Fighting therein is a great (transgression) but a greater (transgression) with Allah is to prevent mankind from following the Way of Allah, to disbelieve in Him, to prevent access to Al-Masjid-al-Haram (at Makkah), and to drive out its inhabitants, and Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism) if they can. And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever."
73. O Prophet (Muhammad)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them, their abode is Hell, - and worst indeed is that destination.
54. O you who believe! Whoever from among you turns back from his religion (Islam), Allah will bring a people whom He will love and they will love Him; humble towards the believers, stern towards the disbelievers, fighting in the Way of Allah, and never afraid of the blame of the blamers. That is the Grace of Allah which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allah is All-Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All-Knower.
66. Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimun (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.).
Not misleading in any way to say the Quran doesn't support it? And why the fuck is it okay your prophet said it in the context of his Holy war?
Best song for this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EQJA8Ahac
Based Serbia will save us
>>74712974
>try our best to clear up any misunderstandings or misgivings you may have about the world's fastest growing and oldest religion, Islam.
Except that Judaism and Christianity are older, retard. Are you people capable of anything but lying and ruining the world?
>>74719335
are these carry anything about apostasy? religionofpeace.co-tier of quoting,
>>74712974
Are you a human being, or a cheap piece of food?
Very poor analogy.
>>74712974
wow a Muslim in my class used this analogy as to why they do it
i mean i get it, but he should just say he doesn't like sluts so more people can get it easier
>>74720004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7I63sRGsTw&list=PLr7KGhesVbftgzZJBZ0q6JaFhx4e8DQas&index=175
>>74719245
>You realize Europeans and Christians were like that in the past
>in the past
>past
All muslims deserve to die and are traitors to non muslims nation. There's nothing to debate here. Only one of our group is gonna win, I don't really give a shit which, I've decided the camp I was in and I want to incite an insane level of hatred against you and your religion.
I don't care what you say. You're not a person.
Someone who has to explain shit with 1000 is clearly got something to hide.
By the time the 1000 have been spoken, you can't remember what on earth they were saying, therefore you either agree or tell them to fuck off.
Muslims are the only ones hell bent on telling people they are religion of peace when it appears more of a religion of hate anything that they don't do.
To me it's like the leftists, it's there way or no way. Good luck getting through life being a self centered fuckwit with no friends
>>74712974
Allah isn't real. You're living a lie. Pork is delicious, beer is a social tool and ankles aren't supposed to be sexy.
>>74720057
Let me simplify it for your terrible English
Quran (4:89) - They want you to reject Islam just like they have rejected Islam, and then you would be like them (a disbeliever); so don't be their friends until they become a Muslim. Then if they reject Allah, KILL ALL OF THEM, Once again reminding not to take the non believers as friends.
He said to kill those who accepted then rejected Islam, how can this not be taken and used to reinforce Sharia's standing on apostasy?
>>74712974
When will Islam separate itself from the cold and primitive warlord that was muhammad so that Islam can have it's much needed reform.
You could just make up somebody new and virtuous, like Buddha, and replace all references in the koran to muhammad with the new character.
Or you could just remove everything past Jesus and make Jesus your final prophet. That would be more appealing to non-muslims and make the whole "next phase of Judaism" thing coherent for once.
>>74720263
>hate disgest
>is normal verse of God talking how he will punish bad person
kek pathetic quoting, meanwhile in bible
>>74712974
>Why do so-called conservatives in the west demonize any person who shares their socially-conservative family-based values, if the source of those values is Islam?
Conservative family-based values are fine, but they're unimportant if you behave like a savage in most other aspects of your life.
Why do you refuse to acknowledge the current issues with Islam? You talk about Christianity in your original post. However, you run and hide when people present facts to you that prove Islam is currently the world's most violent ideology.
>>74720519
Hey Ahmed, Allah appeared to me what should I do?
>>74712974
wymyn are shits, islam is based to put wymyn at dem rightful place.
>>74720519
I sure as shit ain't a christian. The Bible has hate speech in it too? Yeah I'm aware.
I'm also aware hatred is normal for muslims so to them it doesn't even show up on their radar.
>>74712974
>and oldest religion, Islam.
ok nice bait good bye salafistfucker you won't fool anyone
>>74712974
I DON'T EAT FUCKING CANDY
>>74720483
Sorry, vile not cold. Don't know how that one happened.
>>74719937
>Not misleading in any way to say the Quran doesn't support it?
hardly, I'm sure some will be able to twist the meaning of some verses to support that though (both muslims and anti-muslims)
>And why the fuck is it okay your prophet said it in the context of his Holy war?
Who said I approved, or he is "my" prophet even?
I'm just telling you that apostasy is only punished in the hadith not the quran, and that it doesn't really matter, because muslims believe in the hadith just the same, if not more so, i know this for a fact because I've seen muslims debate it before.
>>74720714
>>74720519
>>74712974
Ohh fuck they're multiplying.
fun fact: you need to die
>>74720814
True enough!
Got any sauce on debates between Muslims on this?
>>74720519
jews and muslims are as bad as each other. Christians follow new testament.
>>74720519
Christians worship Jesus who was a hippie.
Muslims worship Muhammad who fucked kids and cut heads off.
Do you not see a difference? And what do Muslims do now? They fuck kids and cut heads off. You can dig into the Old Testament all you want, but the main figure of Christianity isn't as insane a the main figure of Islam.
>>74712974
>Fun fact: Christian women used to wear a veil
the difference is that Christian women do not look like inbred sandniggers
>>74721035
DELETE THIS!
You're going to turn them into extremists!
>>74720814
>I'm just telling you that apostasy is only punished in the hadith not the quran
Meh.
>But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge.
>And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist.
This seems to mean that if a guy convert to Islam he's cool but that if he "break his pledge" (of conversion to Islam) then you must fight him.
Death for apostasy is standard as fuck.
>>74721035
"If you meme your enemies they win"
- le weedman [current year]
>Talking point: Why do so-called conservatives in the west demonize any person who shares their socially-conservative family-based values, if the source of those values is Islam?
Because they are secularist Christians in the West.
Question for you
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0DmunEs9hZ1
>>74720960
Do you prefer Christians over Jews and Muslims?
if so why
Sorry about Vietnam.
>>74721619
do you really believe those fuckers will be honest ? i deal with them 24/24 on francophone forums, they are always incoherent and wrong, and when you prove it they suddenly disappear
>Let me tell you about Islam like its a unitarian religion as I explain it to you through my sect of Islam that exists thanks to different schools of law that emerged in the 3rd century after Muhammed in the 3 major Islamic Dynasties.
>Let me explain this while other Islamic sects murder in the name of Islam and murder other Muslims because they are not Islam. They are not Islam though. I'm Islam.
>Let me do this like anyone gives a fuck. Let me do this like i'm helping. I'm such a forward thinker. I'm ahead of my time. Y du even Trump Merica? Indonesia is more relevant then just a tourist vacation spot to fuck underage children!
>>74713246
Install to you too
>>74712974
I'd rather arab candy stay in arabia.
>>74712974
>Muslim thread
>Voltorb flag
Gotta kek'em all.
>>74712974
Oldest religion? stfu and go fuck a goat
>>74714455
You're in for a ruslin when you trust a Muslim
>>74720945
I can't find the ones i watched subtitled, but this is close
https://youtu.be/69jZH9ohNCI
>break their pledge
obviously talking about a peace treaty between muhammed and the infidels, desu
>>74712974
>likening herself to candy to be unwrapped by men
>sexualizing herself
Absolutely Haram.
>>74712974
How can you take the soul word of a pedo ?
>>74712974
The oldest religion is actually Hinduism, so fuck you
>>74723349
This
Hinduism is 3400 years old
Islam is 1400 years old
>>74723262
>sexualizing herself
>Absolutely Haram.
not at all, don't confuse islam with feminism, muslim women are sexualised from the day they are born, and the hijab is symbol of that doctrine.
>>74723450
how does it feel to be the only major polytheistic religion to survive till the 21st century? pretty dumb, right?
>>74712974
What he fuck is going on.
The MIDF has started a massive campaign since a few days with.
Dont let them taqqiya you.
Dont let them fool you.
Islam is about world domination.
Islam is about war on trinity.
Islam is the religion of evil.
Allah is Ba´al.
Mohamed was a false prophet possed by evil.
>>74712974
Why do Muslims think others care about their trivialities, when it's the your killing that you should be talking about?
>>74723844
>Allah is Ba´al.
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU
>>74723450
But Muslims lie as a part of their doctrine.
I was in a class where the teacher was a sleeper agent or halfway decent Muslim. One of the students was one of these conformist retards. The student started "correcting" the teacher using stuff that pretty much only works if you are a practicing Muslim. The teacher points out that the class is mixed so he will teach only things that a non-Muslim would accept, such as Islam starting in the Dark Ages and not whenever it canonically declares itself to have started. The student freaked out and left.
What the hell. All of the discussions I had seen previous to this involving other religions accepted that, in mixed company, not everyone believes this. That doesn't even mean it's false. Islam literally cannot tolerate the existence of alternatives.
Go blow yourself up stupid dumb Abrahamic scum
>>74723995
Making excuses and lying is part of the religion
pic related
>>74724178
>>74724178
>Making excuses and lying is part of the religion
>>74724085
>Muslims lie as a part of their doctrine
Jews do too. That's where the mudslimes learned it from.
Study the chart carefully.
Both groups use the same tricks.
Manipulations within manipulations.
>>74712974
Sorry, I'd rather have a candy who actually went to school
remember to sage and disregard barbaric ideologies
>>74725156
At least when you challenge them on anything they disappear like the chickenshits they are. Then the thread becomes an exposé on the religion of the depraved.
>>74712974
i would prefer no candy at all because its unhealthy
So is it just that you guys can't eat pork or do you have an actual ideological opposition to pigs in general? Because pigs are bastards, you guys should wage a fucking jihad on those damn feral pigs fucking up Australia and America.
>>74725772
I'll never understand why that stupid Indonesia from r9k even tries this anymore
>>74712974
I'd prefer unwrapped candy, you can't eat a candy with its wrap.
>>74712974
I dont have a problem with muslims
I have a problem with "refugees" comprised of mostly 18-30 year old men that are sympathetic to radicals and want to leech off welfare. Women and children? Sure. Men that are of military age? No. We call that suicide.
>>74725939
If he was capable of learning, he wouldn't be muslim.
>>74712974
If you think the average hijabi is abstaining from premarital sex, you're deluded.
>>74726035
Yeah good point.
>>74712974
>Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
OH NOOOOOO.
Kek
>>74712974
Fuck off indonesian filth
Fucking muslim nigger
Fuck off
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>oldest religion
Kek
Wow and yet mods deleted the christian thread.
M O D S
C O N F I R M E D
M U S L I M
C U C K S
>>74727419
>Nepal this ass blasted
Kek
>>74714003
Islam lol
>>74712974
I love these threads.
>Islam, a space for dialogue and understanding.
>>74712974
>Why do so-called conservatives in the west demonize any person who shares their socially-conservative family-based values
>>74712974
>As always, serious questions be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
>>74712974
>Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
>>74716029
>Meanwhile your civilisation is crumbling around you because you've failed to pay attention to any of the good parts of your own (Christian) tradition, and allowed the corruption - the very corruption, planted by insidious Jews, that the Quranic revelation's entire raison d'etre was for removing - to take over.
>Meanwhile your civilisation is crumbling around you
Oh my god the ironing
>>74728652
kek forgot pic
>>74712974
>world's fastest growing and oldest religion
>>74712974
I prefer turds to be wrapped in toilet paper.
>>74712974
>As-salamu alaykum.
thats not candy thats a piece of shit
stop wrapping it up, learn how to christmas or something
>>74712974
Its ironic because they wrap their anti-western sentiment and overt desire for idealogical conquest in a veil of lies.
>>74713635
What's the guy on the right holding? Not his helmet, the white thing.
>>74712974
>wrapped candy
but i would like to have the choice of eating my candy rather than hold on the thing
>>74712974
>salamu
>>74712974
>implying covered up women are more hygenic than white women
>white women smell better and are cleaner
>>74712974
>the west demonize any person who shares their socially-conservative family-based values, if the source of those values is Islam?
What does (SWT) actually mean?
>>74712974
WELL HOW THE FUCK DO I EAT THE CANDY IF IT'S WRAPPED UP YOU STUPID WHORE?
>>74712974
>serious answers
>>74712974
> oldest religion
there are dynasties that existed before your religion, let alone the fairy tales.
>>74712974
>the source of those values is Islam
>>74712974
>As-salamu alaykum.
>>74712974
How are you meant to eat a wrapped candy?
>>74712974
>oldest religion
>Islam
laughingbuddha.jpg
>>74712974
STEALTHY RARE
>>74728699
>wa alaykum salam
>>74712974
>God (SWT) demands modesty
>>74712974
When that "wrapper" keeps them from being infected with bacteria and dirt.
>>74712974
>the west demonize Islam
>>74712974
your opinion about ISIS ?
>>74712974
>will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered
>>74713594
They look so pretty like this
>>74712974
>Islam thread, a space for dialogue and understanding.
>>74729057
What does (SWT) mean?
theres no reason for anyone to have false belief aside from stupidity
how about you abandon your shitty 1st century philosophy, take that retarded thing off your empty head, and stop raising pedophile cockroach people
>Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.
>>74729269
>Definition: When writing the name of God (Allah), Muslims often follow it with the abbreviation "SWT." These letters stand for the Arabic words "Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala," or "Glory to Him, the Exalted." Muslims use these or similar words to glorify God when mentioning His name.
>>74712974
There is nothing modest about Islam or Muslims, your chauvinists. Veils are a facade that hide this from you.
I thought you didn't like idolatry. Idolatry of course being sinful because it replaces god with a fallible and false faith in the material.
Modern Muslims worship the veil because it is a representation of modesty and identity but take selfies and make adverts like you were selling cloth. Like all things your faith has been absorbed into materialism.
Keep hugging your veils because your religion has already been lost and usurped by those who now make good use of useful idiots.
Also Islamic banking is a scam.
>>74712974
>Islam, dialogue and understanding.
This thread has an unusually high level of vitriol from the anti-Muslim forces. I probably need to up my game here.
What you fail to realise is I, and the vast majority of Muslims, are on your side. We are socially conservative. We oppose degeneracy. We see through the Jewish lies. We despise the post-Christian west's decadent, liberal hedonism.
The only difference between me and you is I get my values from Islam, and you get yours from Christianity.
God-fearing conservative Christians: our quarrel is not with you.
However atheists, polytheists (I'm looking at you, poo in loo flag) and other fedoracore posters have my scorn.
Liberal posers you also have my scorn.
>>74712974
>world's fastest growing and oldest religion, Islam
>world's fastest growing
Yes because if you tell peole that you left Islam you'll get hunted down and maybe killed.
There are a ton of muslim gay men in Isreal because intolerant people in palestine chased them away. Do you know why these gay people still call themselves muslim? To be left alone.
>and oldest religion, Islam
False, Islam is the youngest religion.
>>74729399
>There is nothing modest about Islam or Muslims, your chauvinists.
Looks like we got ourselves a male feminist.
Let me ask you a few questions:
Does your obese long-term girlfriend have cutting scars on her thighs or her forearms?
How much taller than you is she?
How many fedoras do you own? (don't forget to count trilbys too)
>>74728857
>implying that doesn't happen on the streets of mexico.
>>74729780
>There are a ton of muslim gay men in Isreal because intolerant people in palestine chased them away.
No man who has sex with men is a Muslim - any more than a man who votes for Bernie Sanders is a conservative - or a man who believes Hinduism pre-dates the covenant with Adam is a Christian.
Islam is not a race. However there are Arab homosexuals - maybe that's what you meant. But no, they are not Muslim. They gave up their faith when they gave into their evil impulses, and chose to turn their backs on the faith they were raised in.
>>74712974
Is it just a coincidence that the only way for a Muslim to get on well with a person of different beliefs is if he's influenced as much as possible by the western values and principles?
A psychologist said that he couldn't work with Muslim criminals because their thinking was entirely different, that they percieved anger as a noble act instead of weakness of mind. Does Islam portray anger as a good thing?
Thanks.
>>74717413
BAHRAIN YES
>>74729698
>The only difference between me and you is I get my values from Islam, and you get yours from Christianity.
And where has that gotten your slice of Earth these last few thousand years
>>74712974
I don't want any candy, because it rots your teeth and contributes to diabetes.
In fact, it's pretty similar to what Muslims to do society.
>>74730222
Haven't you heard? the fact that all muslim nations are shit-tier is just part of Allah's plan. He wants all mudslimes to be backward goatfuckers.
>>74713962
you are mixing cause and effect - ethnicities that have the sluttiest women tend to have men be more paranoid about cheating and cucking them, thus islamic teachings are seen as preferable for their supposed strictness.
remember - arabs are the biggest cucks (1001 nights stories are literally a cuckfest)
>>74730077
Bacha Bazi. Or don't they count due to your legalistic bullshit masquerading as a religion?
>>74712974
We will kill all muslims that have choose the wrong religion.
Walid Shoebat Exposes Lies of Islam Allah is not God but Satan the deciever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhp7Qaj5NSU
Documentary: Sword and the Crescent (Full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk_VwZxN9bA
>Along with detailing new groundbreaking research on the uninspired origins of Koran stories and the corruption of early Koran manuscripts, this film also covers: offensive warfare, Muhammad's immorality and ruthlessness, errors of the Koran, Muhammad and the Bible, absurd Islamic teachings, and Muhammad's demon possession.
Radical Muslim UCSD student
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPjpqiCxc4o
The Truth About Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBpmPXv1R4
>>74729698
Atheist here. I'd gleefully scalp you and your whole family. How's that for scorn you piece of shit goat-fucker?
>>74723569
dat red mist
Know Your Enemy (Part 27 - Allah)
http://youtu.be/x_s5By7s8z0
Know Your Enemy (Part 28 - The Kabah)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fodMC9oTy7Q
Proving Allah is the goddess Isis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VPO47DeoPQ
muhamad burning in hell
She says Prophet Muhammad is in Hell (Hell Testimony) النبي محمد في الجحيم
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiL4ClvshN0
Ex-Muslim Conversion Story
http://youtu.be/4onVthQMmNA
>Islam has a concept called Jihad, which is more or less trying to violently convert your country
>Islam has a concept called Hijrah, which is more or less trying to convert your country through immigration and breeding
>Islam has a concept called Taqiyya, which is more or less the idea they can lie to you in the name of our god
>Islam has a concept called Jizya, which is more a less a tax they put on infidels for not converting and living while living near them
>Islam has a concept called Taharrush, which is basically a game they play involving gang rape
>Islam has a concept called child marriage, which basically is pedophilia
The Vicious Snake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeJ-iv3MOTo
Rape of Boys in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan - A Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkD507geCHA
Top Illuminati Grand Wizard: “We Control Islam and We'll Use It to Destroy the West.” (WW3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dXD2H0m74g
Muslims suffer insanity, low IQ, recessive disorders from 1400 years inbreeding
https://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/muslims-suffer-insanity-low-iq-recessive-disorders-from-1400-years-inbreeding/
We find that our Arab history is full of conflict, crowded with a culture of lying and exposed by sexual and moral deviation … is it not considered wrong and shameful the spread of corruption and sexual deviation in the corridors and palaces during [Muslim] Arab rule?”
Kutby was not discussing some odd ruler or some abberrant phenomenon, no, he was discussing the highest pride of Muslim history rulers: “Plentiful were these [deviations] written in our history books, novels and stories. For example, The Abbasid Caliph Harun al-Rashid spent his nights with a boy named Al-Majin and the immoral poet Abu Nawas…Here are the verses that indicate sexual decadence and corruption in which Abu Nawas says ‘Adela blames my choice, a boy smooth as an Oryx …leave me alone, I said, do not blame me, I am committed to what you hate and until death do us part. Did not the book of Allah instruct? To prefer boys over girls…’”
Throughout Muslim history, Muslim sultans were very fond of handsome young slaves whom they kept close to their persons as pages, service-boys, bodyguards, special troops and as gay companions. Infatuation for such slaves was a bane of the life of Muslim royalty and nobility in particular, although they considered it to be a fashion. In fact, the whole of the Muslim armies and system was a gay tryst.
Almost all of the Muslim caliphates beginning with the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Córdoba Spain, Fatimid all the way down to the Ottomans, from the highest leaders to the lowest of low they indulged in ghilman (boy love).
Under the Khilji Dynasty (1290-1320) Sultan Alauddin Khilji sodomized his most beloved soldier Malik Kafur, a slave boy from Gujarat after he “was castrated, converted to Islam, and was taken into Alauddin’s service”. Vincent Smith describes for example Sultan Khilji’s “addiction to disgusting vice.” Kafur ended up murdering Khilji the Sultan taking over the dynasty to only end up beheaded and taken over by Khilji’s son Qutb-uddin Mubarak Shah who was also among the bisexual, pedophile Muslim sultans.
K.S. Lal, in his book, Muslim Slave System in Medieval India, documented the bisexual, pedophile Muslim sultans. Qutb had a boy lover, Hasan. Ultimately the degraded creature was killed by his minion when one homosexual lover named Khusrau Khan engaged the king in his intimate company and got him killed just as happened to his father.
>>74712974
>be me
>go to church because it's Sunday
>Fr preaches the gospels the way they actually reads, no "we have the same good" nonsense, but "whosoever has not the son has not the father".
>States clearly that allah is not the real god no matter what the nature of what they worship is.
t. Traditional catholic
>>74713143
first post best post
In The Summary for The Message of Prayer, How To Teach Our Children Prayer by Sheikh Yousuf Al-Asfuri AlBahreini, First Edition, 1989, this book is for the elementary schools in Bahrain (for Shiites) (photo of page in Arabic here). In it, it gives the etiquettes of washing from ejaculation.
Book Cover: How To Teach Our Children Prayer by Sheikh Yousuf Al-Asfuri AlBahreini. Page 53 which discusses the necessity to cleanse oneself and the conditions for washing “1—intercourse with the vaginal part of a woman…intercourse after ejaculating in her anus…intercourse after ejaculating in a boy’s anus…after intercourse with an animal…”
Page 53 discusses the necessity to cleanse oneself and the conditions for washing “1—intercourse with the vaginal part of a woman…intercourse after ejaculating in her anus…intercourse after ejaculating in a boy’s anus…after intercourse with an animal…”
http://shoebat.com/2014/12/05/islam-religion-homosexuality-pedophilia/
“Even the prince of the faithful Caliph Al-Amin, son of Caliph Harun al-Rashid, bought his eunuchs and dedicated them for his private use and refused women and slaves, and anguished over his love for a boy named Kauthar, and sang for him love songs and poetry. Caliph and Commander of the Faithful of Allah, al-Wathiq bin Khalifa Mu’tasim and Caliph Harun al-Rashid’s grandson, longed for a boy called Mahj. He dedicated sweet and delicate poems for him. Commander of the Faithful and Caliph al-Walid ibn Yazid ibn Abd al-Malik was even said that he enticed his brother to sodomize him.”
Muslims frequently say that we, the critics of Islam “know nothing about Islam”. They relentlessly exhaust us with this statement that ISIS terrorists do not understand true Islam.
I finally capitulate. They are correct. I humbly yield, they won this debate.
The truth is that no one truly understands true Islam, neither Muslim scholars nor Muslims in general. Even the best of its secular critics don’t understand it. The only way to fully understand Islam is to be the devil himself.
Crescent imagery everywhere
According to Middle East scholar E.M.Wherry, whose translation of the Koran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Baal, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Osnabrück: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973, p. 36).
"In ancient Arabia, the sun-god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars as Alfred Guilluame, the Moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah (op.cit., Islam, p. 7)
"The name Allah was used as the personal name of the Moon god, in addition to the other titles that could be given to him.
"Allah, the Moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called 'the daughters of Allah'. These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
"The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities" (Robert Morey, The Islamic Invasion, Eugene, Oregon, Harvest House Publishers, 1977, pp.50-51).
>>74712974
Is the candy supposed to be the woman, or a penis?
"The name Kubaba or cube, whose sky body was worshipped as a metiorite and who as later called Cybele, comes from Kaaba of Mecca; she was an image of the goddes who was worshipped in Anatolia and Arabia until the rise of Islam"
-Melusine the Serpent Goddess in A. S. Byatt's Possession and in Mythology
https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=JjoBs_u5rigC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=The+name+Kubaba+or+cube,+whose+sky+body+was+worshipped&source=bl&ots=SknouVYDHu&sig=t8lNN_qu8U-YULYqdaQfo7aV1oQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiIrKmKuJfLAhUCQyYKHQyoACMQ6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=The%20name%20Kubaba%20or%20cube%2C%20whose%20sky%20body%20was%20worshipped&f=false
The origin of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning "God" (or a "god"), and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity" (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, ed. James Hastings, Edinburgh: T & T Clark, 1908, I:326)
"In ancient Arabia, the sun-god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars as Alfred Guilluame, the Moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah (op.cit., Islam, p. 7)
"The name Allah was used as the personal name of the Moon god, in addition to the other titles that could be given to him.
"Allah, the Moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called 'the daughters of Allah'. These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
"The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities" (Robert Morey, The Islamic Invasion, Eugene, Oregon, Harvest House Publishers, 1977, pp.50-51).
"The Quraysh tribe into which Mohammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the Moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.
"The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant rôle in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.
"The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the Moon god" (op.cit., Morey, p.51).
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
The Sumerians, in the first literate civilization, left thousands of clay tablets describing their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjöberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a moon-god who was called by many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen, and Asimbabbar (Mark Hall, A Study of the Sumerian Moon-god, Sin, PhD., 1985, University of Pennsylvania). His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favourite name for this deity (Austin Potts, The Hymns and Prayers to the Moon-god, Sin, PhD., 1971, Dropsie College, p.2). As Professor Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites" (op.cit., p.4).
In ancient Syria and Canna, the moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in its crescent phase. At times, the full moon was placed inside the crescent moon to emphasise all the phases of the moon. The sun-goddess was the wife of Sin and the stars were their daughters. For example, Ishtar was the daughter of Sin (Ibid., p.7).
Egyptian moonRas Shamra moonSacrifices to the moon-god are described in N. Syria's Ras Shamra stele (right). In the Ugaritic texts, the moon-god was sometimes called Kusuh. In Persia (above right), as in Egypt (left), the moon-god is depicted on wall murals and on the heads of statutes. He was the judge of men and gods.
Throughout the ancient world the symbol of the crescent moon is found on seal impressions, steles, pottery, amulets, clay tablets, cylinders, weights, earrings, necklaces, wall murals, and so on. In Tell-el-Obeid, a copper calf was found with crescent moon on its forehead, the is the idol worshipped by the children of Israel in the Wilderness of Sin. While Moses was on top of the mountain receiving the Ten Commandments from Yahweh they sank into idolatrous worship of the moon-god, Sin! Such an idol has been found with the body of a calf and a man's head whose forehead bears a crescent inlaid with shells. In Ur, the Ur-Nammu Stele has the crescent symbol placed at the top of the register of gods because the Moon god was the head of gods. Even bread was baked in the form of a crescent as an act of devotion to the moon-god (Ibid, pp.14-21).
Ur of the Chaldees was so devoted to the moon-god that it was sometimes called Nannar in tablets from that time period. A temple of the moon-god was excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon-worship that are now displayed in the British Museum. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the moon-god. An example of the Babylonian moon-god is shown to the right. Note the presence of the crescent.
In the 1950's a major temple to the moon-god was excavated at Hazor in Palestine. Two idols of the moon-god were found. Each was a statue of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved into his chest (below left). The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the moon-god (below right). The worship tablet found at the same sight (left) shows arms outstretched towards the Moon-god here represented by the full moon within the crescent moon. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the daughters of the moon-god. These are illustrated in the collection of photographs (below right).
What about Arabia? As pointed out by Professor Coon, "Muslims are notoriously loathe to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic terms" (Carleton S. Coon, Southern Arabia, Washington DC, Smithsonian, 1944, p.398).
Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the "daughters of Allah" have also been discovered. The three daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them..
The archaeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion in Arabia was the cult of the moon-god. The Old Testament consistently rebuked the worship of the moon-god (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:3; II KIngs 21:3,5; 23:5; Jeremiah 8:2; 19:13; Zephaniah 1:5). When Israel fell into idolatry, it was usually to the cult of the moon-god. In Old Testament times, Nabonidus (555-539 BC), the last King of Babylon, built Tayma, Arabia, as a centre of moon-god worship.
Segall stated: "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations" (Berta Segall, The Iconography of Cosmic Kingship, the Art Bulletin, vol.xxxviii, 1956, p. 77). Many scholars have also noticed that the moon-god's name, Sin, is a part of such Arabic words as "Sinai", the "wilderness of Sin", and so forth.
When the popularity of the moon-god waned elsewhere, the Arabs remained true to their conviction that the moon-god was the greatest of all gods. While they worshipped 360 gods at the Kabah in Mecca, the moon-god was the chief deity. Mecca was in fact built as a shrine for the moon-god. This is what made it the most sacred site of Arabian paganism.
In 1944, G. Caton Thompson revealed in her book, The Tombs and Moon Temple of Hureidah, that she had uncovered a temple of the moon-god in southern Arabia. The symbols of the crescent moon and no less than 21 inscriptions with the name Sin were found in this temple (see above left). An idol which is probably the moon-god himself was also discovered (see above right). This was later confirmed by other well-known archaeologists (See Richard Le Baron Bower Jr. and Frank P. Albright, Archaeological Discoveries in South Arabia, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1958, p.78ff; Ray Cleveland, An Ancient South Arabian Necropolis, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1965; Nelson Gleuck, Deities and Dolphins, New York, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 1965).
The find reveals that the temple of the moon-god was active in the Christian era. Evidence gathered from both North and South Arabia demonstrate that moon-god worship was clearly active even in Muhammad's day and was still the dominant cult.
According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. As Coon pointed out, "The God Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon-God" (Coon, Southern Arabia, p.399).
The moon-god was called al-ilah, the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times. The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle has Allah as part of their names. The fact that they were given such names by their parents proves that Allah was the title for the moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Professor Coon says, "Similarly, under Muhammad's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, of Allah, the Supreme Being" (Ibid.).
This fact answers the questions: "Why is Allah never defined in the Quran?" and "Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?"
Muhammad was raised in the religion of the moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah the moon-god was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in the pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only God.
In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is accept the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods."
This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest"—he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the greatest except in a polytheistic (many gods) context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser.
That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. Thus "Allah" was the moon-god according to the archaeological evidence.
Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians he said that Allah was their God, too. But both the Jews and the Christians, who worshipped Yahweh, knew better and they rejected his god Allah as a false god.
Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat, and Manat (Three Early Christian-Muslim Debates, ed. by N.A.Newman, Hatfield, PA, IBRI, 1994, pp.357, 413, 426).
>>74714665
Yes, submission to Allah.. for everyone... including non muslims..
Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be . . . a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry" (Ibid., p.719). Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded, "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and the Jews" (Caesar Farah, Islam: Beliefs and Observances, New York, Barrons, 1987, p.28).
The Arabs worshipped the moon-god as a supreme deity. But that was not biblical monotheism. While the moon-god was greater than all the other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times.
Is it any wonder that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?
>>74712974
>Islam is superior :2~~~
Hence why so many muslims don't want to live in Islamic countries
>Islam is non degenerate!
Why it is uncivilized and focussed on butchery and violence? How is this barbary not degenerate?
I know you will probably hide my post. A leftist is not as degenerate as a Muslim.
Let us look:
>Loads of Muslims flee Muslim countries.
>They flee the violence and repression pepertuated by their religion and culture.
>Instead of rejecting their religion and culture they then bring it to a Western country.
>They then bring their violence and regressive nature.
Your people are the most degenerate people there are! They can't even admit that it is their culture perpetuating all this shit!
There are violent Muslims at every border:
In China.
In Burma.
In Russia.
In Africa.
In Europe.
In India.
What is the common factor here? Islam. Everytime Islam borders another culture, another religion, no matter how different those cultures are to each other... they all dislike Islam because of the violence it brings.
Fuck, even Buddhists hate you. That has surely got to tell you something.
>>74731541
You're good. Thank you.
>>74712974
>dialogue and understanding
between bullet and your brain?
>>74712974
>oldest religion
Nice bait
>>74731971
They don't want to live over there because they want to genocide white people and make islam take over the west.
>>74712974
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBJBTC5aJM
