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>>74618009
>CEO convinces the people hiring him that his work is worth 13,942.31 an hour, and they both agreed on this salary
>minimum wage mouthbreather forced to get a higher wage by the government
>it's the CEO's fault.
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>I just assemble the things someone else paid for, with the tools someone else paid for, in the store someone else pays for, using the electricity someone else pays for
>this is the product of MY labor and I'm entitled to all the profit
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>>74618009
I'm in Texas but my flag doesn't work. Why not?
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Proofs?
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let's just remove the minimum wage so we can a be rich
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>>74618139
>>74618356
>t. delusional fucks who think they'll be the CEO one day.
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meh... im a big time trump supporter, but with inflation, 8 bucks an hr is pretty weak.... like in a store that does 8 dollars worth of customers every minute, all u gotta do is pay each employee a couple min worth of the 60 min/h of proceeds...
i should be against raising the min wage,,, but idk... with the money trump saves us internationallly he is the only one that could provide a situation where we could raise it without leading to a crisis....
its whatever tho.... when the crisis hits it will be shootouts everywhere, so at least we will have our fun
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>>74618514
>expecting anything from shitty menial labor that any retard can do
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>>74618009
I support the increase therefore I am prepared to pay the extra 50cents

the person who made this sign wants to have their chicken and eat it too
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>>74618009
>MAKE THIS GO VIRAL


IT'S MINE SO IT'S TRUE SO IT'S RIGHT.
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>>74618009
If this sign is up at every KFC in America the CEO is making 3.75/hour....you're welcome

Sincerely
The Colonel
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>>74618660
This is a Bernie supporter
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>>74618009

Those workers are not productive enough to earn $15 an hour. Their labor value is far too low. This is basic shit.
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>>74618714
So your brilliant plan for once you kick all the Mexicans out is that everyone will happily work on your cotton plantations for $7 an hour?
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>>74618009
you could abolish the CEO's wages and divert all those wages to all its employees and you wouldn't give them even a 20 cent increase per hour
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>>74618009
>To Support an increased HOURLY wage that we pay our employees, we have increased the price of our $5 Fill Ups to $5.49

>We will now blame it on shit heads like you for pushing for increased minimum wage instead of fixing the economy and lowering the cost of living

>Fuck you liberals.
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>>74618009
I'm sure the automated kiosks got a real kick out of that.
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>>74618009
5.49 is the 5$ fill up after tax in my state.

Sources: I work at KFC
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>>74618914
When did I say anything about Mexicans?
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>>74619069
You're on /pol/ m8.
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I thought the general liberal consensus was always "I don't care if the prices rise, I'm willing to pay more to support the underpaid!"
But now their excuse is "Eat the rich! Overhead, expenses, shareholders, economies of scale, etc. don't exist! Don't raise the price of my food but also raise the wages of everybody that works for you! I am silly!"
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>>74618009
>companies only hire 1 person

Assuming each location has 4 people working on them at any given time, the cost of a minimum wage increase per hour is about $58,308
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>>74619117
per hour per dollar*
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why arent we just working for free then the cost of living would go down
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>>74619106
so basically,
>gibsmedat
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>>74618514
Its America, anyone really could be CEOs one day if they play their cards right.
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DESU I agree. Everything everywhere has gone up 20 cents in the last couple weeks and it's taking its toll on me. (Middle class)

SHOULD they get $8 an hour? Yes. Do I WANT them to? No. Because I'll be the one paying for it.
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>>74618009

Damage control? Wasn't their whole platform that prices wouldn't go up in the first place?
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KFC has over 100,000 employees. To support a $1 an hour wage increase from the ceos salary the ceo would have to recuse his salary to less than -$186,000 an hour.
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>>74618009
The average KFC worker, that hasn't been replaced by a robot yet, goes to work and hopes not to fuck up so bad that he gets fired.
The average CEO goes to work and tries to make good decisions so that thousands of workers keep their jobs and to keep the company stable in the long term. Over simplifying the responsibilities of the people you are jealous of is douche baggery.,
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>>74619268
>Its America, anyone really could be CEOs one day if they play their cards right.
especially if your last name ends with "stein" or "berg". bonus points if it has "gold" or "silver" in it
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>>74618514
>t. Retarded discount Australia who doesn't understand free market practices
Go back to licking Marx's hemmoroid ridden ass.
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>>74618009
There are over 14,000 KFC locations worldwide. The CEO isn't even clearing $1 per hour from each store. Hardly seems unreasonable.
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>>74619106
I think he is just mad that the company made an excuse for the price increase. I doubt he really cared about the extra 50 cents.

Doesn't bother me because that minimum wage employee will dump most of his now slightly higher pay check back into the economy.

>>74619106
there is no general liberal consensus. Its pretty much a melting pot of different and often radical leftest idealism.
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>>74619268
>Its America, anyone really could be CEOs one day if they play their cards right.
Maybe if you're useful to the jews or jewish yourself. If you ever get big and try to go against their agenda (even just not promoting it is enough), you'll be eaten alive
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>>74619268

Yeah, but generally not the liberals because they're stupid, and too mired in identity and excuse politics to actually do any damn work.
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>>74618009
Every time liberals make this argument it just shows that they have no idea how a business works or where the money in a corporation goes. Let's break down why this is retarded real fast.

KFC is owned by Yum! Brands, according to google the CEO makes $11 million, and the total executive pay is something like $35 million. That's a lot sure, but in the context of an organization that size it's fucking nothing.

Sauce:
http://insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action?t=YUM

According to Wikipedia Yum! has around 505,000 employees across 42,000 restaurants. I'm going to be conservative and say about half of those are minimum wage. So we've got 250,000 or so workers making $7.25 an hour, this means that it costs the company about $1,812,500 per hour to pay it's minimum wage employees, for simplicity's sake let's call it $1,800,000. Now let's say we increase that minimum wage to $10 an hour, meaning it now costs $700,000 more per business hour for this company to operate. Remember that $35 million per year those big bad executives were making? Increasing minimum wage to $10 an hour costs the company more within 50 hours of operation, and keep in mind I've been pretty conservative with most of these estimates, plus if you increase the minimum wage you have to scale up other pay grades too which further compounds the problem.

In short the dumbass who made the OP pic can fuck off.
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>>74619682
Eloquent response. Capped for l8r
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>>74618009
Or maybe, just maybe, that $15 hour minimum is forcing the businesses to raise their prices up.
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>>74619641

work has never been an integral part of becoming a ceo or even rich
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Franchise owner is the one paying for it anyway, not the CEO,
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>>74619682
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>>74619117
>implying leftists can understand any of this
>implying they'd care if they did
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>>74618514
Reducing the CEO's salary to zero would give those kids a $0.35 per hour raise, if his salary was redistributed only in American stores.
And then the company would cease to function because it's not worth running, he would just liquidate his stock holdings, and no one would have any reason to take the wheel. All those kids would become unemployed overnight.
The only solution is to forward the cost to the customer and inform that customer of the governmental devilry that has become the prime motive force of pricing.
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>>74620165

maybe, maybe not.

However, blathering on about #niglivesmatter or the patriarchy on twitter sure won't get you anywhere.
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>>74618514
I could make a business tomorrow and be a CEO

Doesn't mean I'd be getting paid for it
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>>74620991
I'm not saying reduce his salary to $0, you mong. I'm saying $14,000 per hour (plus bonuses) is stupid.
This man could work 1 day a year and make more money than you will for the next 3 years. Once you reach a certain wage level, increasing the salary isn't going to result in increased efficiency.
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>>74620849
>implying right-wingers understand anything.
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>>74618009
Are they trying to bully me out of eating at KFC?
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>>74619682
/thread
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>>74621267
>Remove the incentive for taking the burden of CEO so the workers can have enough money to buy half a gallon of gas more at the end of the day.
>No, even less because not zeroing him out.
Your mentality of interventionalism is why the purchasing power of those dollars is so low in the first place.
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If companies could get away with paying CEOs much less money they would.

The fact of the matter is that people with the experience to lead multi-billion dollar organisations are few and far between.
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>>74618514
>a person in charge of every single store should be thought of as equal to someone who can barely run the cash register correctly
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i will never eat kike fried chicken again.
(maybe once more later today)
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>>74621659
>Prior to 1960, CEOs earned 40 times as much as the average worker.
>As of 2003, they now earn 301 times as much as the average worker.
How come the cost of incentivising these rich fuckers is exponentially growing? Prices are inflating but the incentive to work minimum wage doesn't change because there's always another Paco who'll work for less than Johnny.
You are the reason third world immigration happens.
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>>74619398
>>74619615

Take out a loan and open a restaurant. Make your bank and live out the rest of your years landlording.

If only liberals had the drive to do anything other than flipping burgers.
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>>74621953
Because the companies are larger and farther-reaching, taking more effort to run, especially in this instantaneously-connected world.
It's not like the days when you could just sit on 50.1% shares and conduct your business by mail.
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>>74621267
he doesn't get $14,000 an hour, he gets $11million a year. it is a different approach to the job.

hourly jobs are jobs where you turn up and do some work, which could in reality be done by anyone with a few hours training. you finish your scheduled worktime and go home.

to be a ceo, or any high level manager/supervisor, you are paid for the bigger picture, not for the finished product. the kfc ceo is paid bonuses in stock options because they (the board) want the ceo to be around for many years, as this should bring stability and allow the long-term goals and visions of the company to be met.
he is also paid for his experience and view of the market, similar companies and likelihood of the company's vision become reality.

the comparison between an hourly worker and the ceo is false equivalency. the only connection is that they work at the same company.
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>>74618009
>because fuck those low-life pieces of shit
Why do libs insist on cursing whenever they're trying to exclaim their point? I work in a warehouse, I'm no stranger to vulgarity but I always cringe when I see them do this shit.
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>>74621953
Democrats got a law passed in the 90's requiring CEO compensation to be publicized, making all CEOs and CEO candidates aware of how much other CEOs were making.

As companies no longer had an information advantage when making offers to high quality candidates, the market skyrocketed.
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>>74621953
>You are the reason third world immigration happens.
And that doesn't make a lick of sense any way you slice it, by the way.
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this is fucking dumb as hell
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>>74618139
FPBP
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>>74619106
It's essentially them saying the rich shouldn't be rich because being rich = evil to them. How dare the rich do what they want with their company to get more money?
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>>74618009
>CEO generates thousands of dollars of revenue per hour, deserves to be paid $13.7k/hr
>Cashier generates barely $10/hr, does not deserve $15/hr as a result.

This is economics 101. You get paid for what you contribute to society. If you don't like it, seek employment elsewhere or start your own job (although government is making that more and more difficult-- including laws that force minimum wage).
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what the fuck does a CEO even do
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>>74618009
Commie faggot aren't you?
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>>74618009
Introduce a maximum wage, $100-200 per hour. And let business sort themselves out.
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>>74618514
Nah, he's right. You have skills and education, those decide your value as a worker. If every job paid the same per hour than what would be the point of going to college? The best workers would get the easy jobs that don't matter like fry cooks, the engineers and doctors would be the people who had to go to college because all the easy jobs were taken.
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>>74618514
thats not the point you idiot

its about people that blame CEO's while not realizing it's their own actions that lead to that
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>>74622262

CEO compensation inflation is due to the fact that no one wants to hire a sub-standard CEO. Thus, compensation wise they always go above the median. Now extrapolate this over decades and you will understand why CEOs make so much.
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>>74622710
They make important decisions aussy bro, they also have meetings with other important people on how to make fast food chain X great again.

And im sure sometimes they even come into the place they are in charge of, just to wave around pink slips to boost morale.
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>>74618009
Retarded.

The CEO isn't paid hourly, and most of his income is in stocks he's not allowed to sell for years.

That being said, the CEO is overpaid and the board of directors should've negotiated a better deal.
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>>74618009

idk what my political opinion is on this but you have to be a complete degenerate to eat at KFC in the first place, so screw the CEO, workers, and the customers

talk about the complete nigger brand of all fast food
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>>74618009
This is just more of that anti-rich, pro poor propoganda. These kinds of idiots seem to think that a company could not afford a single $100k bonus to the CEO without raising the price, but that they could easily afford doubling the pay of all of the minimum wage workers. Basically, they're idiots.
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>>74618009
Why are so many liberals this retarded? CEO's tend to make that money only when they hit performance targets set to the board, that money is then paidout via stock options.. perhaps liberals should enter business and see for themselves how it works.
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Main reason we hate socialism and communism is that the underclass struggles under it, with lack of food and services as the system cannot support itself.

Reason we like Capitalism is that it is the best method of increasing wealth for everyone involved.

Unions formed because work must be done, and workers decided that they wanted a say in what their wages were worth and in what conditions they were to work in. Supply and demand, you want labor you must pay the price for that labor.

Government decides to act as a defacto union for the unskilled unorganized labor.

Everything in this thread arguing that workers don't deserve money for their work goes against everything that pol says we believe in.

Minimum wage is bad because it is artificially inflating the value of a resource. But the idea of paying more money for someone's labor isn't what the problem is. In fact, that's the primary reason we don't want unchecked immigration is due to oversupplying the demand for labor thus keeping wages down for your common brother.

If you claim to be a patriot, if you claim to want to make America great again, you need to start giving a shit about your neighbor. This idea that that nationalism is an engine for Jewish bankers is cringy as fuck.
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>>74618009
>eating at KFC

Enjoy your heart attack at 30.
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I wonder if people know what a franchise and brand are.
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>>74618009

All these CEO/executive/wall street cock sucking retards need to understand that these people don't really deserve this type of money for what they do.

The bitch that ran Yahoo into the ground is getting 20+ million dollars in severance pay. Severance.

You just can't justify that shit.
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>>74625748
You can when you're a republicuck.
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>>74625748
>>74625934
why shouldn't they be allowed to do what they want with the money of the company they own

why aren't they allowed to do what they want with their money
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>>74618009

KFC is a franchise.

The people who operate your local KFC chain have no control over what the CEO gets paid, and punishing your local business owner for the CEO's compensation is ridiculous.
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>>74626196
CEOs don't own the company.
That's like letting a nigger into your house, letting him destroy everything and then paying for the damage yourself.
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>>74618009
Liberals do not own KFC, they do not get to decide how it's business returns should perform. For the business to be viable compared to other industries, it must pass the cost on.

If they killed it's returns, then no kidding, all of the investors would move on to something that performs better, then all the low end jobs would be gone.

The result of this attack the executives shit is essentially going to result in fast food vending machines like in Idiocracy.

The movie is literally about liberal policies in action and democrats are so stupid they don't see the connection.
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>>74618514
>wanting the government to get the fuck out of your life so that you can sell and hire labour for what ever price you like
>delusional fuck
pick one
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>>74618009
If you took the CEO and paid him minimum wage, then split the difference among all other employees, their wages would go up a few cents.
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Holy shit, an extra $0.50!? How will I ever afford a meal now? Pay the people a wage to live on and maybe they'd care about their jobs and have some pride and not fuck up my order.
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>>74618514
red herring

>>74618356
imbecile
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>>74618433
proofs of what? you think the one on the left is a shoop?

look it up
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>>74627662
I meant proofs that the CEO's pay went up.
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>>74626196
>objective morality

o i m laffin
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>>74623483

>it's not stealing or corruption if i can't use all of it for a few years

*slow clap*
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>>74618009
I saw the sign and first thought wow only two quarters? That's not bad.

But they're actually trying to play it off as a terrible injustice? Or what?

Is the price increase supposed to be a huge deal or is it supposed to not be a big deal at all?
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>>74618009
go waste your time with KFC nigger.
I have no control over that and you waste both our time by posting this.
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>>74618914

If you kick out the Mexicans it will free up lots of housing and other resources thus driving the cost of living down and making 7$/hr livable.

Or we could continue to let them come in as we ship in Somalis and other third worlders, put them all on government be idiots and inflate the Jews bank accounts further with money stolen from the taxpayers. Yea, we should probably do the second one.

>implying the Jews don't just print all the money anyway.
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>>74630821

Pfft yeah cause Mexicans r takin our jerbs right Cletus?
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>>74630821
>Suggesting that we back our currency with something of stable value instead of just fucking the goyim over.
Anti-Semite much?
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>>74618009
I pretty sure ceo's don't get paid by the hour.
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>>74619398
>step one: start a businesses

Congratulations you are now a ceo.
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>>74622850
Congratulations you just convinced every large company to move off shore.
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>>74618009
>let's boycot kfc so those 15 dollar an hour workers we tried so hard to get a raise for get fired

liberal logic.
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>>74619347
>To support a $1 an hour wage increase from the ceos salary the ceo would have to recuse his salary to less than -$186,000 an hour.
It's worse than that.

According to this
http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/04/22/305859588/fast-food-ceos-earn-supersized-salaries-workers-earn-small-potatoes
>According to a new report, YUM! (owner of KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut) compensated its CEO $22 million in 2013.
So from the sounds of it, it's all one CEO getting paid $22 million for KFC, Taco Bell and Pizza Hut.
So let's say there are 100,000 employees of KFC, if we divide the $22 million between tem each employee would get $220 per year raise if he took a $0 salary. Divide that by 2080 (40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year) and that winds up as a massive $0.10 raise.
The CEO would need to make 10x more and then have 100% of it cut to give the employees even a $1 raise, and that's only with KFC.
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>>74618660
You sound like you haven't even gotten out of high school
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>>74630821
>Throwing out the below-minimun wage slaves.

You really expect a bunch of thieving niggers and fancypants pampered liberals with soft hands and skin that never touches the sun out of beaches to take the slave-work spics do?
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>>74618009
No there aren't 100k KFC employees there are 24k or so do some research autist don't just assume. And not all are low level workers some are managers and distribution managers or higher workers that make enough. The goals are for the lower workers to get more
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>>74632500
>if you don't reply to this post
Can't fool me
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>>74627638
Nice arguments you provided there. Really well done
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>>74632500
9/10 bait
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>>74618009
Divide 13,942 by the number of KFC employees globally.
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So let's say the entirety of the CEO's wage is split between all the minimum wage workers.
How much more do they each get?
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>>74635643
It's about an extra $1.20/hr for every employee if you remove the position of CEO and distribute it all evenly amongst the entire workforce of 24,000 people.
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>>74635536
>>74635643

According to Google, KFC North America has 24,000 employees proper.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/KFC_Corp.aspx

That would mean firing the CEO would give every single one a wage increase of 13,942 / 24,000 = about 60 cents.

Not even that little tbqh
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>>74635892
But not all of those 24000 make minimum wage.
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>>74618009
>you are a dick if you give business to a company that willingly hires people

what

do they think higher paying jobs will magically appear if no one supports this one?
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>>74618009
>Before making the edit, this person went to a manager to receive proof that indeed, the extra money went to the CEO.
More "Things That Didn't Happen" at 11.
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>censoring fuck and shit on internet
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>>74618009
omg unsourced jewbook propaganda
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