Christianity makes no sense to me, christendom seems to be based on fear and judgement and promotes weakness. Explain to me why you subscribe to such a cretinous religion.
>>74613915
>religion based on fear and judgment and promotes weakness
>creates the identity of the most succesful continent
Something sounds off.
>>74613915
You've merely existed for a couple years, and yet you have this pretentious idea that you are in a position to judge, dishonour and discredit the culture, religion and traditions of your ancestors going back many centuries, who devoted their lives to secure you the opportunity to be alive... Fuck off cancer.
>>74613915
Your meme is not accurate, sorry.
The Son is a seperate entity, subordinate to the Father.
Source: Qu'ran 4:171
>>74614290
Muslims confirmed Arians
>>74613915
>weakness
Seems like all the atheist countries are getting cucked though.
>>74613915
Next you`re going to ask how it is possible to have faith without proof... Your lack of understanding of the two is truly sad.
>>74613915
I don't it's for plebs
>>74614275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFxN00yRvcI
>I'm a moron
Thanks for letting us know OP.
>>74613915
Shut up you pagan norseman, you don't even know what you are talking about. There's a reason christians conquered your people. The Ragnar Lothbrok you know is a fictional caracter, real Ragnar was a cuck.
>>74613915
Christianity is Idolatry
>>74614593
>vikings culture of looting and raping was destroyed
>looting and raping
nothing of value was lost.
>>74614754
Catholicism is idolatry.
>>74614435
>they happen to be christian while making less retarded decisions therefore christians are less retarded.
>>74614886
First off, "vikings" didn't really even exist. Secondly, do you know how christianity was introduced to Norway? Pretty much the same way ISIS is going about it in the middle east right now.
>>74614938
Seems like a great deal of the "no borders, all people are the same, we need more Muslims" crowd are atheists, though.
>inb4 Merkel
Merkel is hated by the base of the CDU, it's likely she's only pretending to be Christian for the EU shekels.
>>74615022
Christianity died years ago in many of the European countries, that's why they're getting cucked today. The non-cucked countries have strong Christian presence - this is not a coincidence.
The viking/north culture was weak and easily cucked, you can even see this today.
>>74614275
Thank you based leaf. People forget what our Christian heritage did for us.
>>74615073
Most people at age of 20-40 i know are not christians, and they still hold the similar values or ideas that would easly fit to the right side of that chart. Its mostly old people that remained christian in poland. Don't get me wrong, i think its great if someone belives and it works for him, its just not for me and yet i dont feel like i wanna bow down to ahmed dick.
>>74615219
Yeah because the pagans were morally superior and didn't enforce their beliefs on other people.
Christianity is the same shit as Islam.
>>74615073
not to mention, the FUCKING POPE himself
>>74613915
How can it make sense with your heathen retarded human logic mind? You need to think outside the box and understand this is the very creator you speak of, he can be up in his kingdom while walking here on earth as man nothing is impossible to him. We literally live on a circle called earth that floats in darkness does that seem logical and common? Fuck your logic anything is possible.
>>74615390
>You need to think outside the box
What box? The box of logic and rationality?
>>74614275
Except, our ancestors only existed for a couple of years when they decided to devote their lives to whatever.
You too are cancer
>>74614275
And got destroyed by Mudslimes in the process.
Then finally during the renaissance and enlightenment era, religion placed less of a role and Europe flourished.
It's really just an inferior and more convoluted version of Judaism.
Although, I studied Christianity and a lot of the crazier shit that it's often made fun of for were added in later by the church, and not there originally.
>>74613915
Christianity:
>Manifest destiny
>the crusades
>KKK
>weak
Atheism:
>fat
>gay
>neckbeards
>presumably good, according to OP
>>74615365
Yeah, Catholicism is cucked.
Orthodox and Protestants are still based, though.
US Baptists elected the officials that banned Syrians from coming to red states.
Orthodox Slavs fucking lynch Muslims.
You gotta admit it's a strong defense and often more reliable than the average atheist (AKA: hipster commie).
>>74615346
Whats stronger than forcing others to accept your beliefs?
>>74615620
>You gotta admit it's a strong defense and often more reliable than the average atheist (AKA: hipster commie).
Even in the context in which this statement makes any sense, it's still not relevant.
Obviously communists are going to be atheists who promote globalism. That's part of the definition of being a communist.
>>74615790
I said average atheist.
It it relevant, because the average atheist is a leftist that supports open borders.
>>74615346
>moral superiority
or in other words, cuck-pride
Christianity in it's truest form does not support tolerance of degeneracy in any way. You turn the other cheek only to your fellow Christians rather than going eye-for-eye.
Christians are the temple of christ - Jesus himself cleansed his temple of degeneracy with violence. So-called liberal "christians" are out of touch with the faith.
Your morals exist only for your community and your culture, they don`t extend to your enemies, unless you`re a cuck.
>>74615717
So basically you think that ISIS butchering the kurds, christians, yezidis and all others who don't conform to their doctrine is okay?
>>74615856
>I said average atheist.
Right, and in the context where your average atheist is a communist, you're talking about the views of communists.
The views of communists are irrelevant to the views of non communists.
I'm glad you christians in here are showing your true colors, you are basically ISIS.
My mother traced her lineage back to this guy...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel
>"champion of the Cross against the Crescent"
I will defend Christianity against the heathens until my last breath.
>>74613915
>promotes weakness
Resisting sin is not for the weak.
>>74616016
So you're saying that atheists are a reliable demographic for keeping Muslims out of Western countries?
>>74615518
A statement like that reveals that you have no sense of honour - your parents must have been from difference cultures and both were too lazy to carry on the culture they were born into.
That is where easily-corrupted minds come from.
>>74615520
>destroyed
Clearly you're a butt-hurt Muslim.
>>74616173
>So you're saying that atheists are a reliable demographic for keeping Muslims out of Western countries?
No, I'm saying your comment is irrelevant. Atheism isn't an ideology.
It's like saying
"people who drive cars aren't a reliable demographic for stopping muslims"
>>74616208
Define corrupted.
Seems like libtards earn more on average and score higher on tests.
Maybe it's you conservatards that don't understand them, not the other way around.
>>74614929
>Willingness to accept context = idolatry
>>74613915
There's no reasoning with Christfaggots OP
>Norwegian
You know what to do
>>74616280
Okay, but my comment about Christians being more reliable than atheists for keeping out Muslims is still true, right?
>>74616208
>A statement like that reveals that you have no sense of honour - your parents must have been from difference cultures and both were too lazy to carry on the culture they were born into.
>Stating obvious facts implies a lack of honor
Well ...
>>74616276
No, I'm an atheist.
Does this trigger you?
Shitholes like Italy only care about their past glory days, kind of like you.
The US prospers because it always looks to the future and realizes the importance of change.
>>74616029
Yes we are like ISIS. And we will slaughter you for being a disgusting heathen degenerate. I'll rip your heart out you little piece of demonic trash. Already got your IP and location. You'll make a good sacrifice to my Lord. Atheists need to be killed. All of you bring nothing but leftism and nihilism and destruction to a nation. A bullet is all that you deserve :-)
>>74614337
It is somewhat absurd that it is considered heresy to say that Christ is not the Maker.
But I guess it makes sense that people would think he is God after seeing him walk on water and bring people back to life and shit.
>>74616368
Yes it's strictly true, but we both know the intent of how it is to be read is different than the strict fact of the statement.
Hence why it needs clarification. It's stated AS THOUGH atheism were an ideology like christianity is.
>>74616428
>>74616428
Hmm...
Makes you think...
>>74616055
My maternal Grandma always claimed she descended from Charlemagne, so, by proxy, from Charles Martel. Christian faith runs strong in my family on both sides. Our Lord Jesus Christ be with you, brother
>>74616522
This is basically a death threat, I could in principle report this to the police. Luckily for you I'm not a bitch so I don't care.
>>74613915
It comforts betas to believe that they will get some kind of reward after they die for being faggots in life.
>>74616543
Seems like atheism is more likely to lead to nihilism though, doesn't it?
Nihilism is commonly the foundation of many leftist movements, including communism.
If you have a strong belief such as "God demands that Christianity is the only correct path, and Muslims are its greatest enemy."; one could conclude that you're more likely to oppose Muslim immigration.
However, atheists have no divine imperative against Muslims; so they're more likely to be swayed by leftist ideology that says Muslims and atheists can coexist, right? That seems to be what actually happens.
>>74616544
I intend to have a wank, what's your fuckin point?
>>74616699
You should report it to the police but it wot matter. You already made your oath to degeneracy and you will face either the sword or the bullet :-)
It's going to be nice cutting your throat for my Lord knowing that I'd have saved Europe from one less degenerate swine :-)
>>74613915
>I don't know what a necessary evil is
Yikes
>>74616843
Anglicans are trying to keep your country from being cucked.
>>74616503
>US prospers
Does it? It once did, when Christianity was still strong in the country (like during the 50's)
>change
if it ain't broke, don't fix it. anti-revisionism made china the superpower it is today.
>>74616428
>judging god when you can barely remember to brush your teeth or how to do long division.
LOL
Growing up under the heavy influence of TV propaganda has given you guys a set of values that are incompatible with your own family's culture, and you relish in this. How can you not see the fallacy in this? Lol it's obvious as fuck.
>>74616945
Trying to intimidate someone behind a keyboard literally on the other side of the world is just pathetic.
Just stop, you're making me cringe.
>>74613915
Just a question for OP.
What religion do you subscribe to?
I am personally a Pantheist with some Buddhism and Asatru mixed in.
Modern Christianity is fucking HILLARIOUS
>Idolatry is one of the WORSE sins in the bible yet crosses are prominently displayed EVERYWHERE
>The *star* of David that sits so nicely above peoples christmas trees is none other than the star that was put over Jesus' manger BY SATAN to bring people to kill him.
>Virtually all holidays are pagan in their roots.
I could go on and on but you get the point. REAL Christianity went off the rails a long long time ago.
>>74616029
Rejecting your heritage is weak, cowardly and dishonourable.
>>74616613
And also with you, brother.
>>74617236
I guess I'd say I'm psuedo norse pagan, but I don't believe in any kind of literal deities so I'm basically atheist. Used to be pantheist.
>>74617291
the temple needs cleaning
>>74617363
Yep, and that's why I praise my norse herritage, not the foreign christian one.
>>74617402
I don't believe in any literal deities either.
>>74617402
You should pick one and stick to it.
>>74617609
>implying that you have to choose one and only one religion to follow
>>74617463
Did your parents teach you norse traditions? You should follow what your parents taught you, and teach the same to your own children..
>>74617452
That particular account is interesting. Jesus was not driving out the merchants simply because they were capitalizing in God's house but rather they were price gouging people. That is why he drove them out.
There is actually another account in the bible where Jesus acts a bit out of character. He is hungry so he finds a fig tree, this fig tree had no fruit.
Jesus cursed the fig tree and that mofo shirviled up and died right infront of him and his disciples.
>>74617693
>making such a backwards statement.
you probably also believe that it's possible to be a woman, but with a dick and balls and XY chromosomes.
>>74616978
Necessary evil, like slavery and raping countries of their natural resources so that we as a species can be where we are because white people knew how to do things better than others? So now there is a small group of people who are probably for all we know are going to live forever, may be in contact with aliens and have knowledge beyond what we could even fathom all because of that necessary evil. We are just all being abused by necessary evil, for the greater could of a very select few.
>>74616791
Well we can speculate on reasons for what we see for sure.
It's funny you should complain about nihilism though. The idea that life is meaningless is an idea that can be plausibly interpreted from the bible. It doesn't matter what happens on earth because god's going to sort out the good from the bad. So let the muslims kill you, that's in their hands.
nihilism has the same impact on a person's actions as the above belief.
Communism does have atheism as a founding principle, but it's not nihilistic. It's closer to humanism, or the idea that all of humanity is bound together.
>If you have a strong belief such as "God demands that Christianity is the only correct path, and Muslims are its greatest enemy."; one could conclude that you're more likely to oppose Muslim immigration.
This isn't a belief that most christians have though. There are plenty of atheistic beliefs a person could have that would make them similarly likely to oppose muslim immigration. The only difference is that on atheism, you don't say "god demands" at the beginning.
>so they're more likely to be swayed by leftist ideology that says Muslims and atheists can coexist, right? That seems to be what actually happens.
No, i think you're fallaciously applying your statistic from earlier to support this.
One possibility is that people who are leftists are likely to be communists, therefore atheists and also therefore support Muslim immigration
>>74617800
>Jesus was not driving out the merchants simply because they were capitalizing in God's house but rather they were price gouging people.
This was probably the cuck-translation you read. Find the earliest version you can get and read it there for the true meaning. He drove everyone out because they were using the temple to make money, not to worship and pray.
>>74617720
A little, I was told that thunder was because of Thor's Mjolnir and my dad used to scare the shit out of me telling me stories about draugrs and trolls.
It's kinda funny because my parents were kinda christian, but they didn't take religion serious so they mixed up shit.
>threadly reminder that there are manbabies posting on /pol/ who literally believe in myth and fantasy
>>74618002
>It doesn't matter what happens on earth because god's going to sort out the good from the bad.
this is not what christianity teaches.
>>74618299
>this is not what christianity teaches.
Which part of christianity? There are PLENTY of sects that think exactly that you scrub.
because european artists depicted jesus as aryan so white people could worship themselves. same as the other creepy ass monotheistic religions.
>>74618382
cuck-sects aren't true christians, just like how there's non-jews who claim to follow judaism. they're just pretenders.
>>74618002
Yeah, that's all hypotheticals and definitions, but isn't my example the reality?
How many atheist nationalist parties are there in the West; save for maybe Swedish Democrats and Danish Peoples' Party (whom I'm assuming are made up mostly of atheists). Futhermore, do the atheist nationalist parties have more weight or significance than their Christian counterparts in other countries.
Law and Justice in Poland is fapped to by Catholic priests there, and they have prevented Muslims from entering Poland. Swedish Democrats gets called "Nazis" and discredited by every newspaper and TV network in Sweden, and has yet to pass any meaningful anti-Muslim legislation, to my knowledge.
>>74613915
>I'll take "Modalism" for 200, Alex.
>>74613915
Anti-Christian!
>>74618480
>cuck-sects aren't true christians
Didn't take long to get to the no true scotsman bullshit.
here's a smug gif reply while I'm at it.
>>74618460
>creepy ass monotheistic religions
aren't you glad that white christians built such a great country for you to move to and take advantage of? It's truly amazing isnt it.
>>74618513
Yes? Do you have a point?
>>74618684
So you're completely fine with your NTS fallacy?
Do you even understand why what you said was a fallacy?
>>74618617
aren't you glad a jewish cult created your religion that you stole and turned into blonde jesus nonsense?
>>74613915
Only if you apologise and make a new OP post that's respectful
>>74618513
Heretic, blasphemer, apostate.
They are the cancer of the west, weakening Christianity so Islam and its fanatics can easily topple the modern passive Christians, that we are forced to be because our way of life is 'archaic' to these intolerant new age fools.
>>74618879
atheists are the most vocal opponents of islam. christians like the pope have religious sympathy for islam
>>74618828
Yeah, it turned out pretty great. Though I admit Christianity is becoming too egalitarian for its own good these days.
>>74619155
>most vocal opponenes
Most like most vocal proponents. I admit that most of them think they can let Muslims pour-in and then later convert them to secularism - but that still means that they're letting Muslims in.
I've already mentioned that Catholics are being cuked, but Protestants such as Baptists and Pentecostals are strongly anti-Muslim and more likely to support Trump. Slavic Othodox, well, they fucking kill Muslims and treat them like vermin.
Look at the people who support Muslim immigration on TV and social media - all lefty atheists.
>>74618879
Lol, it's the turn the other cheek, grace and charity bullshit from christianity that is responsible the the islamic invasion of the west.
>>74618505
I mean, look at sam harris and richard dawkins. Both are leaders of the atheist movement, both are regarded as rightwing hateful shitlords against muslims.
The fact that there are more atheists who are communists doesn't imply that atheism leads to communism.
If you ask me, there's better reason to believe that communism leads to atheism.
What need would there be for an ATHEIST nationalist party? Why wouldn't they just call it the nationalist party? Atheism isn't an ideology.
The ONLY reason people rally around the word "atheism" in america is because it got them bigger numbers of people for the political battle.
Obviously there are more nationalists than atheists, so there wouldn't be a reason to form a nationalist party on those grounds.
>>74619676
My point is that Christians are more reliable nationalists.
Harris and Dawkins still can't convince the majority of atheists to be against Muslim immigration. Just look at all the atheists on social media comments who attack Christianity and "muh Crusades" whenever somebody triggers them for being anti-Muslim. Meanwhile, Christians are de facto majority nationalist and anti-Muslim - which was my original post.
>>74620221
>My point is that Christians are more reliable nationalists.
Right, and we agreed that was strictly true. But you mean to use this fact to inform a course of action:
That this is a reason to promote christianity as opposed to promoting "atheism".
It's the second part that doesn't make sense.
>>74620738
So my promoting atheism, we'll have less Muslim immigration?
Where is this evident in the West?
I don't know if you've ever been to a church in the US, but church is the only place left that are racially segregated club that aren't politically incorrect.
>>74613915
because its the True religion and not a yoga or anyshit to help you at the ordinary life
>>74620935
>So my promoting atheism, we'll have less Muslim immigration?
>Where is this evident in the West?
I'm not saying that. I'm saying the idea of promoting "Atheism" doesn't make sense because atheism isn't an idea! It isn't an ethic! Why would we promote a non-belief as a way to instill a belief in people?
Furthermore even ignoring that insanity, your statistic says nothing about which would be better. You would simply have to assume that our campaign to promote atheism would cause atheists to appear in the same proportions that we currently see. There's no reason to think that would be the case.
Why not spend our energy promoting a nationalistic identity? Nationalists correlate 100% with nationalism. We should promote THAT.
>>74621449
Just so long as you don't claim Christians are weak for the cause.
>>74621521
>Just so long as you don't claim Christians are weak for the cause.
I don't know whether they're weak or strong. I'm just talking about the logic of the argument.
>>74620221
Are you claiming atheists are ok with muslims or islm? Citation needed.
>>74618828
your wisdom is most welcome... retard
Praise Kek.
>>74621627
Citation is fucking everywhere on the internet:
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/blog/niravmehta/five-reasons-why-atheists-must-support-immigration
I don't have time to look up charts for you, I assumed it was a given, as the other atheist ITT agreed.
>>74621613
There are two types of Christians. The nerdy ones, and the regular John's that just don't care about the details, they just want an identity.
The nerdy ones are the dishonest people, because they know it doesn't add up, but lying for Christ isn't a sin in Christianity, just as it isn't a sin in Islam to lie for Allah.
>>74614275
> 0/10
>>74622253
These are SJW's that happen to call themselves atheists. Not every non-believer is a commie, you know.
>>74622417
Let me know when atheists fix you Muslim problem, Sven.
>>74613915
It isn't supposed to, Anders.
>>74613915
>weakness
A Christian can endure orders of suffering and despair that would instantly drive an atheist to suicide
Christianity is the religion of love (in the highest sense - not leftist turn-the-other-cuck self-hatred).
Islam is the religion/political ideology of hatred.
Buddhism is the religion of nihilists and atheists,and Hinduism is the religion of poo (but they do at least contain some wisdom).
Judaism is the religion of superstitious old women.
>>74614938
>happen to be
explain why they make less retarded decisions
>>74613915
Poor authorship
>>74623474
>A Christian can endure orders of suffering and despair that would instantly drive an atheist to suicide
They can't seem to endure the idea of a world without a cosmic nanny though.
