Why do millennials hate driving and against owning cars?
I'm 20 and many of my friends and classmates don't even have a learners permit yet. A lot of them don't even see a need to own one or learn how to drive and I've been ridiculed for having an interest in them and owning 2 shitboxes that I work on.
What gives?
I have a permit but i rarely use it.
The public transport is so well developed that its often even faster then taking the car and searching for a parking spot
>>74584695
Here in Norway we ski to work.
It's faster and healthier
you posted this on /o/, were you not satisfied there?
you're considered a manchild if you don't have a car here once you're out of education and if you don't live and work in the centre of a city. even the dumb and stupid can drive, even though it's much more difficult to get a license here than it is in clapistan and other third world countries
>>74584695
Where I live it's easier for me to take public transit than to drive to school. I don't have to deal with LA traffic and I can get a $50 bus pass that lasts 3 months instead of a $200 parking pass that doesn't even guarantee me parking at my school.
Maybe they can't afford a car because they waste all their money on social justice classes
>>74584695
I loved driving when I lived in WV, but now I live in California and I can't stand it. Reasons: grid, traffic.
It's a huge pain in the ass. No fun.
>>74584695
Be nice to my truck
HE A GUD BOY
BOUT TO GET HIS TIRES ROTATED N SHIET
WE NEED MO MONEY FOR DEM TOP RAKS
car culture has been stifled by
1. shit economy that doesnt allow a millennial to really own a nice car like their older gen X siblings and parents did just by working at mcdonalds over the summer, thus leaving them with mostly shit cars and public transportation
2.cars themselves getting cucked to hell and back by safety regulations, pedestrian safety laws, emissions, etc etc (which makes them more expensive, tying back into point 1)
3. auto makers trying harder to make it so people can't fix their own cars- a car from the 80's or 90's was still relatively mechanically simple. a car now is a fucking supercomputer on wheels. I think it was GM, even, that tried to by law make it illegal to tamper with the engine because it ties into the onboard computer or someshit like that.
4. the lack of focus on trade and industry means that shit like mechanics are not taught in schools at all, and boomer parents never bothered to teach it to their kids either, so millennials cant fix their cars unless they are specifically into mechanics, which disconnects them from the experience, and makes it worse with point 3.
when my brothers were my age in the 80's, they could get a car easy. my brother got a job laying carpet, and used the money to buy a Pontiac Fiero.
nowadays most jobs like that are all mexicans, and the jobs you CAN get dont pay enough to buy a new car. so you are stuck with a shitty prius, unless you want to dig and get involved with an older nice car, which requires more maintenance, which takes money you dont have and skills you dont have
>>74584695
insurance is too expensive. I could afford a decent second hand car now but I cant afford the insurance until im 25 or near that. Im 18 now. Ive got my license though.
pic not really related.
Cause they got fucked by jew banks and bush/obama bankrupting the government
Daily commute:
Bus: 10 minutes with dedicated bus lanes. Yearly pass 300€
Bicycle: 15-20 minutes with dedicated bike lanes. Cost is relevant to your bike.
Car: 30 minutes thanks to traffic jams and that is if you're lucky. Cost of the car+insurance+gas+maintenance+parking fee.
I love driving my car, but nowadays it feels more and more like a giant ripoff.
>am 23
>started driving when I was 14
>owned my first car at 16, a V8 shitbox that everyone in my school thought was ugly
>but it was fast and the seats were comfy as fuck
Maybe you're just a cuck who lives around cucks brah
>>74584695
Don't worry they'll catch up in their mid twenties.
Not being able to drive a car will kick them in the nuts hard.
>>74585778
i just blew 600$ on a yakima rack for my jeep.
it's the tits m8.
>>74586017
I have the money I just dont know what I want yet
I gotta fit 4 kayaks on that mother fucker somehow
>>74584695
the only true men today are rednecks and they love the shit out of cars
in canada i guess that would be albertans
>>74586017
Do you actually put anything on that rack or did you just buy it for the looks like every other hipster faggot with a yakima on their jeep/civic/GTI/subaru
>>74585883
This 100%. I work in fast food and make 9.75 an hour. I cannot make enough to buy a car because I live paycheck to paycheck.
>>74585883
oh i forgot, the liberal brainwashing as well. cars are bad mmk, save the trees, mmk, buy a nice 4 cylinder jellybean SUV mmk, thats a nice car, it's SAFE and will be good on the environment!
because it takes away from their phone time.
Even then, they're still texting and driving.
>>74586160
Also, to mention, I am not allowed full time because I don't have insurance and can't afford insurance, but I make too much for medicaid.
Obama made it a lot harder to be unskilled, white and poor in this country.
>>74586074
4 kayaks? good luck bro. I got the loadwarrior basket.
>>74586121
I put big shit I buy and can't fit in the car up there, boxes and shit. Also I strap my luggage in it a lot because I have a ton of kids.
>>74584695
Probably just less incentive to go out since they do their socializing on their phone
Your friends probably laugh at you for working on your car because that's a masculine activity and they are embarassed to be associated with some big burly macho man
>>74584695
Fucking queers.
>>74584695
>falling for the speedy jew
>>74585883
>>74586160
You fags forgot a YUGE one. Three words:
>CASH
>FOR
>CLUNKERS
CFC made it so a good couple hundred thousand (guesstimation) used cars were quite literally just junked and turned into scrap metal, in an ass-backward Krugman-ist attempt to artificially stimulate the "new" car manufacturing market.
Go on Youtube and look up "cash for clunkers"'; you'll see plenty of decent-looking perfectly running used cars being disabled and essentially "killed" so people would have to choose the new $18,000 Dodge Dart instead of buying an $8,000 1998 Honda Civic.
>tl;dr: how the fuck could you cucks forget about Cash For Clunkers
>>74585778
HE WUZ JUS GUNNA GET BAJA LIGHTS
>>74584695
theyre not against it, they just cant afford id
how stupid are you
>>74584695
They can't afford it after spending all their money on patreon and student loan payments for their humanities major.
>>74586395
that too, but honestly it's more than just Cash for Clunkers. Thats just the insult to injury.
>>74585778
How trucks/SUV's became so popular in murica?
What happened to muscle/full size sedans?
>>74584695
U wot m8. I drive rougly 1200 miles per week, and i have been for 5 years now. Still enjoy driving
>>74586395
This.
Cash For Clunkers fucked up the used car market so much.
>>74585883
>shitty prius
Prius is pretty nice. Wish I owned one...
>>74584695
I absolutely love driving. Really makes me feel alive. Got a nice sound system, so playing the Need For Speed soundtrack while speeding is a lot of fun.
2 of my friends are married and their wives refuse to drive. I have friends In their late 20s who don't have licenses. I got my first car at 15 and have been employed and driving since. I love driving, those guys are weird.
>>74586562
Depends on the area of murrica you are in. In heavy snow areas, rear wheel drive cars become a luxury because you can only drive them 3 months a year.
Years ago, AWD was a rarity so people made due. Now that it's ubiquitous many people opt for an SUV.
In non snow areas, anon, that's a great question and id also love to know. If I lived in a sunny area like California, I'd never buy an SUV. I'd be all over a Hellcat Challenger.
>>74586225
>unskilled
Sounds like a personal problem to me.
>>74586537
You're not wrong, but I look at it from a macroeconomic POV. If there were more used cars on the market to buy (i.e.: if CFC didn't get rid of all the still-running used cars with <100k miles on the clock), there would be less incentive for the "new" "economy" vehicles to be priced at what they currently are.
The cheapest "new" car on the market right now is still twice as much as what I can pay a spic auto dealership for a used car that'll run for the next 6 years with regular maintenance.
>>74586709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkOU3cURXDw
I cry
evry tiem
Each one of these cars could still have been sold and used as "babbys first car" for all the cucks who're starting college or just getting into senior year of HS. Instead, they get sentenced to history's trash heap.
>>74586828
>a fucking leaf
>>74586395
> $8,000 1998 Honda Civic
What? I'd wager one that somehow had less than 100,000 miles on it would sell for like $2,000 tops. I'd probably give no more than $800 for one
>>74586395
Dude that's what Ford did when he invented the car! He saw the trolley system was more efficient, so he bought it, dismantled it, which forced everyone to buy a car instead.
For not liking Jews, he used some pretty Jewish tactics. Unless of course this is all untrue and my NY state school lied to me again.
>>74585888
You must be doing it wrong. I bought a rover 45 when I was 17 and paid £600 a year. Then I had a ford capri a ford focus mx5 mr2 subaru impreza audi tt
Never paid more than £1000 a year
>>74584695
With Obamacare and min wage going up in many states like CA/WA going towards 15 (its 10/hour now), should you wonder why teens and people in their early 20's have a hard time finding jobs? They can't even get into entry level jobs without previous experience.
When you can't find ways to make money, you're shit out of luck in this terrible economy and are forced to use public transportation/buses/bikes. Cars are expensive AND depreciating assets. Then there's traffic in place like LA. Then you factor in the police having the ability to pull people over and fine people HUNDREDS of dollars for simply going with the speed of traffic which is always higher than the unamerican "speed limits". Driving will become a luxury for rich people now that liberals have had that way. Ironic isn't it?
>>74584695
I have a license but I haven't been driving in years. Don't like it, seems like a waste of time and energy. I'd rather let someone else do the driving and employ my time in a productive manner.
Its 1988 I just bought a motorbike, I am 18, me and friends will ride all summer.
There are no cctv cameras watching our every move, we can ride above the limit and not lose our licence because of speed cameras, and so on.
Being young now must be a fucking pain in the arse
>>74586911
I never said it wasn't personal. I have the choice to be unskilled. My problem is the only unskilled jobs are service now. I don't want to go to college, I don't feel the need to. I am completely comfortable being uneducated, I just want the factories and manufacturing jobs to come back.
>>74586943
I haven't been around cars for about 3 years so I'm extremely off-point on my bluebook values, and I'm already too drunk to look it up
But you get my point, don't you? Why would Shekelberg Automotive charge $15,000 for their new "economy package" model when you could buy a gently-used Honda Civic that gets 35mpg for $2000?
>>74586948
>if you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back
>>74584695
Using public transportation, I can be wherever I want in at most an hour. The added advantage is that I don't need to pay attention to the road
>>74584695
Cause you associate with homos
>>74585963
Looks like they're giving cars the shaft.
>>74584695
WHATS WITH THE ANTI CAR SHILLING TODAY!?!?
>WHATS WITH THE ANTI CAR SHILLING TODAY!?!?
>>74584695
Agenda 21 propaganda worked
I'm 20 and I have only gotten my Temps.
I get really fucking panicky and feel like I'm losing touch with reality whenever I drive.
>>74587206
Shh people on /pol/ arent ready for the green pill
>>74586587
That sounds unhealthy...
>>74587190
Just because we are having a conversation about something that you don't agree with doesn't make it shilling. If you don't like open discussions, there are places more suited for individuals like you.
>>74584695
They're the antithesis of independent.
>>74586562
>muscle
>160 hp firebird
pick one
next time pick a pic pre-73
>>74586562
Fatness
>>74587107
You still need to walk there and wait, as well as deal with the other passengers. You should be able to reach your destination faster in a car too.
>>74584695
Insurance
>>74584695
In urban cities like Toronto, there's not much of a point. It's still a good idea to get your G though, in case you ever need it in the future.
>>74586911
>that Jeep Wrangler
Holy shit why? Those things are worth so much fucking money, especially when they're in that good of shape.
>>74586562
Muscle died in the 70's with the oil crisis and emissions.
the grand sedan died in the late 00's with the economic collapse and skyrocketing gas prices.
and then ford decided that they were no longer going to have region specific models. they were going to be "one ford", and sell the same cars around the world. which means the V8 is dead, and large long cars are too, because you need to cater to Europe too. So instead, you get mid sized sedans at best, with an i4.
have you seen the new Lincoln continental? it's literally a jaguar, with a twin turbo V6.
SUV's became popular because of soccer moms believing them to be "safe" while liking their ability to carry timmy and all his friends, and all her bags when she goes shopping. And dads went with it because it was at least a truck like thing, and not as emasculating as a minivan.
but jokes on them because while the SUV's of yesteryear looked more like trucks, they sure as fuck dont now. not anymore.
I mean how did we go from this-
>>74587535
to THIS
wew
>>74584695
Most I have encountered, did not drive because their parents would not pay for insurance and car.
>>74587442
>OMG OMG YOU HAVE TO WALK????? WHAT IS THIS?????? WALK????? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???????????????????????????
>>74584695
i live and work in a city with good public transportation. if i need to leave i use zip car, just rent a car at my destination and my camping buddies all have their own cars.
>2016
>not working for uber
>not getting $400 per month free uber rides
>not cashing in options in the greatest stock market bubble of all time
why waste your money on a car in 2016 in the future we'll all be getting shuttled around by self driving cars.
>>74587502
Sure it makes sense now to those stacked up ticky tack condo dwellers downtown. If you live in Scarberia for example you aren't a happy camper without a car.
>cars are expensive
>gasoline is expensive
>Uber is cheaper (that in my case, i'd use public transport, but here it's shit)
>>74587337
It probably is
>>74584695
Our generation is frugal and sensible. We know that previous generations gave ruined the world with their decadence, and we want to be better than them.
>>74585966
>Look at me bro I started driving and got my license asap, I'm so cool lol
People like you are the worst. There's no achievement in doing something that 99% of people can easily do
>>74584695
Millennials are lazy shits that cant afford a car
>>74587785
11/10 Straya. You guys are truly the DaVinci of shitposting.
>>74584695
I want to own a car but I live in Jew York which is the least convenient cities to use a car.
Walking, biking or taking the subway is faster and more convenient.
>1. shit economy that doesnt allow a millennial to really own a nice car like their older gen X siblings and parents did just by working at mcdonalds over the summer, thus leaving them with mostly shit cars and public transportation
I honestly don't know what you're talking about. You can get some really nice cars for less than 10k.
>2.cars themselves getting cucked to hell and back by safety regulations, pedestrian safety laws, emissions, etc etc (which makes them more expensive, tying back into point 1)
Thanks, I like how my chances of surviving a car crash has improved over the years.
>3. auto makers trying harder to make it so people can't fix their own cars- a car from the 80's or 90's was still relatively mechanically simple. a car now is a fucking supercomputer on wheels. I think it was GM, even, that tried to by law make it illegal to tamper with the engine because it ties into the onboard computer or someshit like that.
There is some truth to this but I can't complain. Every car my parents have owned have been reliable as fuck (Not one malfunction that made the car unusable) and the minor issues we dealt were fixed by mechanics instantly.
>4. the lack of focus on trade and industry means that shit like mechanics are not taught in schools at all, and boomer parents never bothered to teach it to their kids either, so millennials cant fix their cars unless they are specifically into mechanics, which disconnects them from the experience, and makes it worse with point 3.
Pretty true can't argue against this.
>>74584695
Costs too much money in gas and insurance, as well as repairs when the thing inevitably breaks down. I bicycle everywhere and save money.
>>74584695
Because Kids weren't taught that cars can be FUN
They were taught that they're dangerous death machines you have to use to go places. you should never speed or take corners fast, you should never do doughnuts or race
>>74587866
forgot to quote >>74585883
>>74586245
>because I have a ton of kids.
get off of this loser website dude, go throw a baseball outside with your kid.
>>74587785
bait
>>74588017
frog ID has spoken
>>74585883
You forgot 5. Shitty journalists pushing whatever manufacturers tell them to. I totaled my explorer and apparently all suv's are now itty bitty cross overs with 4 cylinders that can barely make it up a hill. Shitty magazines try and defend getting rid of actual suv's, but nothing will ever come close to them defending BMW's and their fake engine noises
>>74588018
el peruANO
>>74584695
I have my full license but I've never owned a car.
The cost-benefit analysis doesn't make sense for me. A car is just a massive money pit - work is close enough that I can walk and I can use public transportation for everything else.
It helps to live in the city, of course.
>tfw you have owned 3 cars and have been driving without a license for the last 9 years.
>but still can't pass your driving test because nerves and panic attacks.
>>74584695
Communis.... err I mean Environmentalism is working!
Public transportation ownership by the state = communism
Private ownership = communism
It's happening.
>tfw 24
>tfw own my own car
>tfw never drive it because everything is within walking distance to me
Now that its warm I'm probably gonna take the insurance off it
>>74584695
Who gives a fuck, its one less cunt in traffic and one less shitty exhaust our planet has to deal with.
>>74586922
Country or car?
>>74584695
They can't afford cars and are making up for the fact by actin like they're superior to it/don't care
It's like saying
>I'm glad I didn't get invited to the party, I didn't even want to go anyway
They are coddled children lashing out at not getting their way.
>>74584695
>Increase in autists as evidenced by this thread
>Euphoria, your fedora, and those stupid fucking leather driving gloves you use to drive your shitty '97 Ford Aspire doesn't help autists successfully navigate a complicated and congested highway system.
>No need to drive anyway; just ask mom to pickup more Doritos and Mt Dew Code Red at the store.
>Fat friends would probably make the car's undercarriage drag against the road anyway
There's your answer OP
>>74587866
>Thanks, I like how my chances of surviving a car crash has improved over the years.
if you care about not dying in a car crash, then just dont drive a car.
also, you dont need the car to be made of fucking bubble wrap to survive a crash. i dont need like 15 billion airbags. And, more specifically, FUCK pedestrians. if jenny is too stupid to look both ways before crossing the street on a green light that's her fault, I dont want my car to look like a bloated marshmallow just because of people's stupidity.
>>74588148
what is the crime if you're caught?
>>74587857
>Sour Grapes: The Post
If it's so easy then why haven't you done it yet
>>74587581
A jeep that isnt boxy isnt a real jeep.
>>74588158
The """""Public""""" transportation in my country is privatly owned among multiple bussiness.
Is it still communism?
>>74587065
Anymore, if a car runs and has under 200,000 miles, and looks decently clean you will not buy it for less than $750. It'll be closer to 2-3,000.
The market is getting inflated, people are getting priced out.
Car industry will likely crash in the next decade. They're putting too many unnecessary features on the vehicles and people can't afford the extra stuff.
>>74588288
>If it's so easy then why haven't you done it yet
But I have anon
>>74584695
Got my learners at 16 in BC and got my N at 20. Feels good. Even when I had my L ICBC gave me the 5% discount for each year of safe driving despite never owning a car. That was nice too.
Pic unrelated it's the plane I'm waiting in while I post on here. We are waiting for another plane to clear the gate
>>74588298
we should have seen the writing on the wall when this was the cherokee. I thought it was fine, but now I know better.
the Cherokee died in 2001
>>74587442
I have a choice of three bus stops, of different lines, each less than a 10 minute walk away. The one I use most often (to get to school, and to where most of my friends live) is 2 minutes of walking away
>>74588404
>Car industry will likely crash in the next decade.
That's what they said about the film industry 10 years ago in 2006.
>>74587023
What the Italian said basically.
>>74588494
Why are SUV owners such shitty drivers? Get the fuck out of the way with your waste of space shit box.
>>74588331
Yes, in all likelihood this new form of Euro-Socialism will use privatized companies for a lot. The end goal is the same.
>>74584695
I wish I could drive eye sight is to bad
>>74588263
>if you care about not dying in a car crash, then just dont drive a car.
what? why shouldn't i drive a car because i care about cars being safe?
>>74588553
I work in the industry and am very in tune with the regulations, debt ratios of the buyers, and product schedules.
The industry is already suffering. It's a matter of whether or not the industry stops alienating it's market
>>74588404
technically the industry already crashed. or did you miss the part where Gm was bailed out by the Government?
it already crashed and burned. the GM of now is a hollow shell of the pre-crash GM.
>tfw the fed forced GM to cut pontiac
>after years of mismanaging it, GM was planning to give Pontiac a grand comeback
>forced to axe it because it wasnt making money
>tfw no exec will admit it, they'll insist they do not regret cutting pontiac
>but the Pontiac support website is still up, and you can still chat with a support worker
>>74584695
I don't like driving CARS, I prefer motorcycles.
>>74588926
The car or the film industry?
I'm relishing the day each one crashes and burns to be honest with you, fambulance
>>74587964
>Because Kids weren't taught that cars can be FUN
this is close. In ye olden days, the big, empty highways of middle america were basically one huge, tarmac playground for teenagers driving around in their $1000 pontiacs.
Now, there are more people, there are more cars, and most people live in big cities with even more people and even more cars. If you live in a city, buying a car is the opposite of fun, you just sit at the wheel and wait patiently for the traffic stream to chug along to your destination.
For most people, there isn't anywhere to just go for a drive. There are the jam-packed roads of the inner city, or the jam-packed roads of the suburbs, and either way you're constantly being monitored by speed cameras. Driving used to be a fun pastime for many, but now it's unilaterally a tedious chore.
>>74588637
Because SUVs are just enclosed trucks, and usually women and weekend warriors drive them and have no experience driving a truck.
>>74587065
Because dealerships make money off retards who don't know how to fix cars or make a deal with someone on craigslist.
>>74588771
because you are ruining it for everyone else.
you are the reason that back up cameras are now mandatory, and eventually, self driving cars will be as well.
>>74587064
Not going to happen, champ. The manufacturing jobs are permanently gone, and are only going to disappear more and more.
Hit your local Community College and pick up a trade. You can get a Pell Grant and not end up eye ball's deep in debt. Be a plumber or an HVAC technician, or a mechanic or some shit like that.
Not hard to find a job doing tradecraft if you live anywhere near a community of 20,000+ people.
i drive the same car in ops pic different colors though. reason why they do not drive cars, too scared to (like my cousin), too expensive for them, why drive when uber will take you anywhere for shit wages. Yeah ill drive up to your mansion on the hills to pick you up, and then drive you 1 mile away.
really, why should they drive when there are slaves out there driving you around in brand new cars for pennies.
>>74585883
I've pretty much come to the conclusion that mid range any sedan(read not pickups, soccer mom SUVs etc) that was built after 2000 is complete garbage.
My '94 sunbird was easily fixable and my '97 mustang is like lego in terms of how easy it is to take apart.
My mom's 2015 Kia is like a fucking capsule car from Dragon Ball. Outside of the brakes, everything needs to be done in a certified Kia™ dealership.
Also millennials hate driving because they're poor as shit. I was the only one with a working car at 21 years old. A lot of my friends don't even have their basic learner's permit.
>>74589305
My mom's 2015 Kia is like a fucking capsule car from Dragon Ball. Outside of the brakes, everything needs to be done in a certified Kia™ dealership.
Actually if you take off those plastic covers you'll be good to go, just wait until the warranty expires.
>>74589058
>because you are ruining it for everyone else.
lol. if you are such a car enthusiast go to a race track and actually enjoy the fun of driving a car. that's what i actually do. I could care less about the 'fun' of my car for my daily commute.
but you're so autistic that you can't think that people want to own and drive cars for reasons other than your own.
accidents happen out of your control, no matter how good of a car driver you are, and improved safety has saved lives. no sane person would want people to die because some autist like you hates safety regulations.
>you are the reason that back up cameras are now mandatory
i'm so sorry you're car is going to be equipped with a cheap feature mandatory by 2018.
>self driving cars will be as well
i'm sorry humans are making progress in technology
>>74584695
I have a drivers license and I only got it because my parents forced me to.
I never drive my car, I always take public transport, it's faster, easier and cheaper.
Driving sucks dick, it's only necessary if you live in bumfuck or if your city has fuckall for public transport, but if you live in the capital where there's six metro lines and not a parking spot anywhere, taking the car is fucking retarded.
Cars are boring as fuck as well.
>>74585772
i read that as "social justice glasses"
same idea though. millenials spend their money on other shit and hate anyone who chooses something else, in this case car owners.
>>74589463
>Be me years ago working as light duty mechanic
>Open hood of new car
>Greeted with giant plastic cover sitting on top of the engine, stamped with the manufactures logo
>Slowly it keeps happening more and more with new vehicles
And that's when I knew the car industry was dead. They stopped being machines and started being appliances.
>>74589058
backup cameras are the worst thing to ever exist on low end new cars. Most brand new cars that have them, are now designed deliberately in a way that makes it damn near impossible to see out the back window so you're forced to use this piece of shit camera unless the weather is as nice as the first Sunday.
>>74588982
That was because of bad labor deals. People were being paid for jobs that were replaced by automation in a grand scale. GM had excellent sales, but couldn't beat their own costs.
As of now they have good sales, but the average customer is paying for a longer term and the inflation of the dollar is making the vehicles too expensive.
Purchasing power for a new vehicle is down.
GM has paid off its debt. That "crash" was just financial mismanagement on the part of the manufacturer-and sales were NOT the issue.
This next time, sales will be the issue
>>74589760
I'm sure you've worked this out but this is because they want to sell cars to women, and increasingly those women are single career-women who don't know how to fix a car, but have plenty of spare dosh lying around to buy one and pay you to repair it - as opposed to housewives who would just get their husband to fix it.
>>74589012
Auto.
I haven't even considered film.
>>74589760
I used to know a female from CA who was 26yrs old and never had a drivers license . She was a fucking cunt who had every dude take care of her so it never mattered to her. As far as males go good luck being able to afford car insurance and a decent car that doesn't fall apart
>>74589760
>bring my mom's Kia to uncle's repair shop since I heard a rattling
>see the visible look of disappointment on his face when he opens the hood
>>74584695
Occam's Razor - people are doing far worse than ever so no one growing up can afford cars anymore
>>74589986
I feel this is exactly how hot wheels look under the hood
Planning to sell my car and just ride a bike.
Feels good man.
>>74590118
A friend of mine paid 520/month for insurance on his 2014 Kia Rio( it was new but it was a total shitbox).
I paid about 330/month on my Sunbird which I bought for 500 bucks and put another 1000 into repairs over the next few years.
>mfw I heard the average insurance for a $200k S65 AMG was less to insure than my 500 dollar piece of shit
Because you live with a bunch of fucking leaves.
We love our cars down here.
>>74589760
It protects the innards you idiot.
>>74584695
Who the fuck wants to pay 10k for a car and THEN like 300 a month or whatever else for the rest of the time owning it. Insurance is a massive scam.
>>74584695
I own 4 vehicles.
>>74584695
Texas here.
Getting a car is a coming of age here. It signifies independence, because everything here is so spaced out.
It's still very much a thing for millennials in Texas.
>>74584695
Dunno, I'm going to college this fall and can't drive for shit. I don't think driving really matters until you graduate and get in the work force.
>>74584695
In Norway it's way too expensive.
>>74584695
I'd rather walk/train is more convenient
>>74590451
a car is pretty much mandatory for people in the trades, at least in Canada. Most of the jobs are outside cities with a lot of public transport and to even get an apprenticeship, you need to have a reliable way of getting there( a car)
>>74590586
promper er gratis
>>74586562
Plenty of muscle here in Houston.
You're likely to see a Challenger or a Camero at every stoplight you hit.
I already paid €2k for my permit. Then I have to pay 20k for a car if new. Then I have to pay €500 in taxes and petrol a month. And in the end some smug cyclist passes me in traffic.
>>74589986
>tfw toyota justifies making their lexus models cost more because of all of this extra plastic
>tfw mechanic has to charge you for an extra hour of labour just to take the covers off
>tfw can't do any engine work at home because the plastic is fixed in and requires a special tool to remove
>tfw people are willing to pay extra money for all of this
Just capitalism my shit up bro.
t. a millennial who works at Ford as a student and drives 70km to work in a car that they own
>>74586969
How? When I first passed my insurance was a joke, after a year and a half of having my license I spent £890 for ten months on a 1.2 Clio. Had to put a tracker in for three months as well.
>>74590351
>bicycle
Must be god tier in non overpopulated areas, but riding a bicycle here, especially in la, is a death sentence. My friend who has ridden a bicycle forever has already got into a few major accidents.
I love driving, but when it's too over populated, I hate it. And like I said, there are guys who drive for uber and lyft who will take you anywhere for dirt cheap, in brand new cars, like Idiots I might add.
Basically, shitty economy. Like it has been mentioned, it worked out well for them, but not us. I mean I was born in the early 80s, and I really do not hate millennials, because they are in way over their heads with this. Cant make shit, cant save shit to buy a decent car, so they just use uber. Like I said, it worked out well for them, they are making millions off of uber sitting on their ass, having people drive their new cars for crap wages and not have to pay taxes on it.
As someone who has lived here for over 30 years, revolt is coming anon, I can smell it. You can kick a dog only so much before they lunge at you. I'm not going to do it, I have a strong code against it, but the millennials will eventually.
/rant
>>74590418
>A lump of iron and aluminum that drinks corrosive fluids and spits 900F flames needs protection from mild afternoon weather and some dirt.
k.
It's like >>74589970 said, to make things "look nice" for women and faggots and other people who have no business under the hood.
>>74589017
I can attest to this. I live in the same town that my family has for many, many generations. When my dad was a kid, he used to race other kids on one of the main roads at 10:00 PM. Now the roads are still filled at 3:30 AM. It's no fun being stuck behind someone who's stoned or some old fuck going under the speed limit. It's not any fun to just sit at fucking stop lights or be in a massive pack of cars all the damn time either.
>>74584695
Depends where you are. Here in the middle of buttfuck Oklahoma you can't get anywhere without a car. About 80% of my high school class had their license and a vehicle to get to class/work by at least their junior year.
>>74588758
wtf, they don't sell glasses over there?
>>74585883
>millennials can't into mechanics
A friend of mine once asked if I knew how to add brake fluid, turns out his pads and rotors were fucked. He's had the car for 6 years and he still doesn't know how an oil change works.
>>74588064
Depends on what you want from an SUV.
BMWs, Porsches etc are basically oversized family cars.
If you want off-road capability - Mercedes G and ML class (currently CLS), Lexus LX and Range Rover are your choice.
If you want power in a SUV form - Cayenne and BMW XM series.
>>74587044
I envy that you could do that.
>>74590418
Then why haven't they been doing that from that start? Oh yeah because it's meant to sway retards away from attempting to do even basic repairs and fuck over small auto shops.
>>74589986
Absolutely hideous. And this fucking thing increases the price cost as well
>mfw my first car had carburetors
I didn't get my license till I was 21.
I know fags approaching 30 who still don't have their license yet.
Holy fuck what is wrong with people?
>>74589986
>>74591556
>>74590707
Thank god Mercedes refuses to do this shit.
>>74590418
>It protects the innards you idiot.
Kek
The only thing it actualy does, is keeping the noise a tad down. Nothing else
>>74589986
YO dawg I herd u liek hoods so we put a hood under your hood so you can protect your engine components while looking like a fucking faggot.
>>74590418
Its not, they want you to bring the car to one of their mechanics for every small problem instead of taking a look yourself
>>74591676
Well when you have an engine to be proud of, you are not gonna bury it under plastic covers.
The thing is this: you can get rid of those plastics (less than 15 bolts in total in most of the cases) but underneeth the engine bay looks as if they threw the parts randomly inside. Well the upside is that your engine is still gonna get more air, which in hotter climates can be crucial
>have car
>city too retarded to provide enough parking spots
>public transport is often quicker and cheaper than parking
Its really fucking stupid, but I can see why people dont buy cars here.
>>74584695
I'm 26 and I've never driven. But I have rather extreme anxiety despite medication and I decided it was probably safer to let other people drive than to try and do it myself.
>>74591981
>when you have an engine to be proud of, you are not gonna bury it under plastic covers.
I don't see how a Lexus turbo V8 is something you have to hide under plastics
Because motorcycles are better.
Now, if you only remove the car feel-good law (yeah, one that bans lane splitting to avoid making car owners feel bad), everyone would ride them in US.
>>74584695
It's expensive.
The driving experience is just frustration at how fast I can't go and fear of cops making it even more expensive.
Car has been useful, but I still don't like the damn thing.
>>74592279
Well the marketing department of Lexus decided that they will equip a car that targets dolt with a decent engine i suppose.
Driving an old 5 speed camaro with bad snycros and a howling diff.
I feel like my car will explode on the highway. Meanwhile boomers are driving brand new stingray vettes.
REEEE give me one!
I've failed my road test 5 times, ill be a bus cuck for all of eternity.
>>74592470
Yes because a motorcycle has the versatility of a car.
t. Bikefag
>>74584695
They probably can't afford a car or were brainwashed into thinking public transport is better.
>>74584695
I can and do drive just fine, but I wouldn't know where to start with buying and maintaining a car. Personally I would like to do it because knowing your way around cars seems like a useful skill, but it's hard when you have no idea.
>>74592719
Well, it's a little different in a sense that it cannot provide a shelter and cannot be used to haul a lot of cargo and passengers. But the only purpose I use a car is to relocate myself between home, work, few coffee shops and a mall. Motorcycle is much more versatile in a car for that purpose.
>>74586911
How do you get skills?
Suppose for example, that you are raised up and kicked out at 18
How do you get skills to do something other than mcdonalds? What was it that YOU did?
Wait, lemme guess... a family member or friend got you a job..?
>>74593071
Anything less than 10 years old requires very little maintenance.
>>74592620
They are retarded. There is a whole scene of people, who give yuuge money to make their engine room prettier.
A good overhaul runs $3000-$10000 (Brabus charges over $10k for carbon covers and pipes).
>>74593071
/o/ can be resourceful sometimes... I've learned a lot from purchasing repair guides and watching YouTube videos. Just pay attention to what you're doing
>>74593146
But most Americans don't use cars for just those purposes, so really even if they make lane splitting legal you're going to have the same amount of car drivers.
>>74585883
>shitty prius
Shit I wish I had a Prius, I have a 1993 Corolla.
rejecting the internal combustion jew is one of the major red pills
>>74586562
>>74586562
They are made in Canada now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brampton_Assembly
>>74584695
This pisses me off so much.
I thought I was bad because I don't know very much about cars and many of my friends in high school were gearheads that were in to rally racing which never really caught on with me but I still enjoyed driving and working on my car and later on I got into motorcycles, but whenever I meet people some of them grown adults that don't even have a driver's license I cannot wrap my head around that, that and people that take their vehicles to mechanics or dealerships to replace a tire or their brakes is just totally baffling to me.
>>74584695
THE AGE OF CARS IS OVER
ITS MINIBIKE/SCOOTER TIME NOW
>>74593402
I used to hate them, but in the world of angry bubble cars, it actually looks nice now
>>74593520
>Honda Grom
Fucking hate these things, don't see what the appeal is.
>>74593308
>buy brz
>die the second you pull out of the lot
>>74593520
Hoon pls go
>dank whoolies brah
>>74585778
Shiet lol. Nice dude.
>>74593308
Well they are on the other extremity on the axis, but i get them. In the 90s cars the engine bay was expected to be pretty, you didn't need to waste a city-car worth of money just to make it pretty
pic related, what my car engine bay looks like (not my actual car) and it isn't considered a decent engine
>>74593595
It's the only available affordable boxer engine car and the engine is sturdy enough to be supercharged without even changing the pistons, so it has it's moments.
>>74592071
Plus here you have to pay to park your car, while also pay taxes to the city. Then you see all that government housing. That's where it all goes to.
>>74593576
It's an economical fuck around bike you can do dank wheelies and stoppies with like >>74593633 mentioned. Great for city traveling.
>>74584695
I fucking hate driving, and cars in general. Failed the exam four times, just fuck it.
R8 my engine bay. Took the front bumper off to fix something
>>74584695
Because it's expensive, bit of a hassle too if you're in the cities.
I have a nice car now, driving is okay. Was better when I was abroad, it's still not so bad since I live in the countryside
Love them winding, uneven dual carriageways in my little shitty rot box.
I'd hate driving/cars too if I lived in a city center.
>>74590707
nigga i own a lexus and this plastic cover isnt fixed with something special, you can just pull of the cover and put it back on.
>>74591290
how does that even work? That's a part of the actual test to get a license here.
>>74593933
6/10. Devices are partially visible but may be difficult to access.
Rate my bay.
>>74584695
Because I pay 10 USD a month for public transport everywhere in the city, all day, sundays included.
For the same amount of money I could afford 10 litres of petrol, which in the city would be enough to drive me back and forth to my uni for five days.
And even to get somewhere outside the city I always have trains.
A train ticket to the village where my grandma lives costs me 1 USD and the ride takes 31 minutes.
To get there by car I have to spend 5 times more and the ride takes <50 minutes.
Do your math.
I have a license but I almost never use a car.
>cars
lmao
Motorbikes are for men
cars are for women
>>74594344
>VW engines
>accessing anything at all
>>74594472
>tfw 10USD is the price for a bus trip into town and back here, one return trip
>want to visit my aunt it costs £70+ one way on the train
t-thanks Richard Branson
>>74584695
It's expensive, paying insurance and buying the car itself, cost of gas.
>>74584695
Insurance is damn expensive, and costs of running a car are considerable. I mean, if I would be ordinary pole I couldn't afford a car I'm now driving (would have to save for a long time), not with the salaries in this country, luckily I don't earn my money in this country, so I can afford to have a relatively nice used car. Car is mostly pure consumption, it's value depreciates,maintenance has to be done, fuel is not free, it's expensive thing. It sure gives you limited freedom, so it's fine by that. If I would try to get same car in my Home country I couldn't afford to run not with insane road tax and even more insane insurace fees for person in my age, mind you car is registered and insured by me, not my parents, usually only option to get insurance, at reasonable price.
>Pic related car model I have. Even same color.
i fucking hate driving because of traffic
>in a giant metal box surrounded by other giant metal boxes going 60 mph with the potential for injury or death
>having to pay insurance so in case you don't die in an accident, you don't go broke fixing your car or getting a new one
>cars cause horrible urban planning (see most US cities, but Houston in particular), you need them to get anywhere since the big car companies used to always lobby against public transport
>getting stuck in traffic or having to deal with road construction
it just sucks, i can't wait for self-driving cars
that being said, i don't mind driving that much when it's 2AM and no one else is on the road.
>>74594472
This one, car in large city is mostly a waste, if you have to go often outside city to some little village car is good thing to have, but not entirely necessary.
I made a terrible mistake today and used my car to get myself to a meeting, for which I had to wear a suit so I took a car to avoid getting myself dirty. Was stuck in traffic jam and came late, luckily the other guy had same situation. In city best form of commuting is bicycle.
>>74586922
Le meme
>>74594486
>suzuki
>>74595029
>In city best form of commuting is bicycle.
It's good but too weather dependent.
But recently they've installed public bikes in my city they had a very positive reception.
I've already hada few situations where I used the newly installed public bike instead of a bus because It was quicker.
Goat shit truly, but the system has to mature a bit.
It's so popular we have a shortage of bikes between 8 and 16 already.
>trying to sell a used 96 intrigue with 160k
>needs about 1k in work done
>selling it for 2k
>would have been a steal of a car when I was in hs
>nobody wants it
Seriously, the used car market is wack and kids just don't drive anymore.
>>74594796
>going 60 mph with the potential for injury or death
the fastest I did with my old Mercedes is 242kph (150mph). There are many people who routinely drive over 190mph.
You sound like a nu-male pussy, m8.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDbLfyB1ug8
>>74584695
I have a license but my older brother fucked his whole family so much when it came to cars that our financial information keeps us from getting another one.
>>74595406
Yeah, that's why I usually commute, when there is good weather with a bicycle, if it rains or snows etc. , I use my car. It sometimes takes bit longer than taking public transport, but you can park right next to your place. Also you don't get wet if you have good clothes etc.
>>74595546
>comparing german driving to american driving
we don't have an autobahn, we have poorly planned intersections full of bumper to bumper traffic
i wasn't implying 60mph was SOOO FAST, i was implying any collision at that level or higher is a death sentence
>There are many people who routinely drive over 190mph.
i think you're overestimating considering the fastest street legal car in the world goes 258mph and at that point it risks its tires blowing out if it had enough gas to sustain that speed
>>74591981
>Well the upside is that your engine is still gonna get more air, which in hotter climates can be crucial
i work on a test track in a hot ass desert
that particular lexus will blow up if its over 96 degrees outside and the hood/plastic isnt secured properly
no seriously, the cars onboard computer reminds you every time you start it
>>74593513
>people that take their vehicles to mechanics or dealerships to replace a tire or their brakes is just totally baffling to me.
mfw this basically sums up the type of people who think cars are interesting or are a technology worth perpetuating/continuing: i.e. people who want their lives to be complicated and think working on a giant, dirty, ugly machine is something anyone would be interested in doing.
I can't wait to pay Uber a flat fee every month for unlimited rides and just give up my fucking car. I have a brand new whip, total per month including insurance is $400. I leased it, if I were to buy it I'd be liable for repairs/maintenance only to sell it in 6+ years and have it be worth nothing anyway. I see people driving cars worth 5x mine and wonder wtf they're thinking, zero chance their car will be worth anything in 3-5 years once automated vehicles have collapsed the entire market.
>>74584695
>Ralph Nader
>Militarized Police
>MADD
>Compulsory Insurance Mandates (exc. based NH) and a "fuck you if you're under 25/30" golden rule for premiums
>Compulsory Seatbelt Laws (exc. based NH)
>Labor Unions
>Global Competition
>Price Dumping
>Stagnation
Made cars unexciting, uneventful, ugly, and kind-of-the-same all across the board.
>>74595462
>kids just don't drive anymore.
Why? The grocery store delivers. The internet sells absolutely everything -- cheaper than brick and mortar. There's nowhere worth going. Same shit absolutely everywhere. Ooh, I'll take a little detour and go into the next town over to see the illustrious... other Kohls, Walmart and Regal cinema. If you want to travel to or within a city, public transportation is preferable. The only exceptions I can think of are for outdoorsy people who need to get to the middle of nowhere before they even begin hiking or hunting. But how many young people are honestly into that? They'd rather strap on a VR screen. And who can blame them. The barrier to entry is lower.
>>74590885
Do you live in a shitty postcode? I got my first car a couple months ago a 1.6 hyundai coupe, no parents or anyone on the insurance to pull it down and I'm still only paying £700 a year insurance. After I have 1 year no claims, I'll get it even lower.
>>74584695
personally, anxiety
Why should I bother learning how to drive when successful self-driving technologies have already been demonstrated?
I can just wait a few years and pick up a self-driving box instead.
To be quite honest, a fleet of self-driving cars, not owned by anyone, would be better. Like a taxi network, but without the drivers.
>>74595879
>any collision at that level or higher is a death sentence
Not really. Modern cars are really safe. 60mph crash will probably give you scare, unless it's a side collision. I had a mate, who busted a tire at 90mph, the fucker hit a pole that cut his Boxter in two halves and flew into a field. Ended up with a bruise on his arm.
I don't really remember when I last heard about a fatal high-speed car crash last time. Every time I hear someone die on autobahn it's some idiot foreign trucker switching lanes without looking.
>i think you're overestimating
Any AMG/M-series/Audi RS car is designed to go 315kmh (196mph). Look it up on youtube, there are plenty 0-315 acceleration videos.
>>74584695
I'm 25 and I don't even have a license. 10 minutes to school on bike and the bus goes every 10 minutes everywhere else.
No parking. No gas. No repairs (other than the occasional tire). Stay mad :^)
>>74596532
Because you will still have to know how to drive to get a self driving car you nigger.
>>74584695
My son is 19, an has little interest inn driving or cars.
If I could have gotten a drivers permit at age 12, I would have done so.
it's different now. No bar hopping.
>>74584695
It's a cart, a wagon, a chair with wheels, you sit on it and roll around.
![imag0199[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/58b5Lpy.jpg "imag0199[1].jpg")
>>74595462
They probably don't want to buy a 20 year old junker. I bought a 2011 Chevy Cruze with 20k for 7 thousand and I absolutely love it. It's nothing fancy but it does everything I'll ever need it to do.
Good cars are everywhere, it's a buyer's market.
>>74594472
40 bus rides costs like $50-60 in Sweden. A one hour train ride is maybe $10-15. I blame the juice.
>>74585778
fucking hate you pricks and always you people drive way faster and more aggressive in those awful fucking things
>>74586562
Here in the mountains of Utah, a 4x4 truck is nice to have. Especially for hauling stuff like ATVs or horses. Save the car for the summer.
>>74597026
Wrong, you taig
http://fortune.com/2016/02/10/google-self-driving-cars-artificial-intelligence/
driving is semi-enjoyable when there's not traffic, which for most people there is both to and from work
i own a modest new car so it's not a money thing, but even without traffic i'd rather walk or bike if my city were set up for it. it's exercise, you physically feel better day-to-day.
>20
>millenial
you're gen z
>>74584948
this, also parking places and prices.
I work in the city center and it's impossible to find a place, If I had to pay for parking and for gas it will be much more expensive than public transport and many times the time it takes will be the same or even faster.
I am turning 26 in 2 weeks and buying my first car - I've had a license for 4 years.
Currently I cycle to work and it takes 15 minutes for 3.5 miles, but moving 19 miles from my office cause the rent is cheaper.
When I checked my insurance back when I first got my license it was something like £4000 for a £4000 1.2 litre car.
Now I ran through some quotes and it is £400, even with no no claims bonus.
I will still take a train to work (13 minute train vs 35 minute drive), but use the car to fly 60 miles to my girlfriends house for mid-week booty calls.
>city is 7min walking
>foodstores and snackbars is 5min walking
>minimarket 2 streets behind me
>chinese around the corner of my street
>bigger cities like amsterdam is 20 min with the train
I have literally no use of buying a car and would probably be wasting my money for paying for its expenses if anything the only thing i would be buying with a motor is a enduro
>>74598697
millennial is early 80's to 2000
>>74586160
I teach English in an academy and I make 7$ /hour
>>74584695
25yo here, i fucking love driving.
almost got pulled over today for doing hektik skids, m8.
>>74599291
neither Millennial nor Gen Z is set in stone. And probably wont be until at least a generation from now when experts make up their damn minds.
some sources consider Gen Z to be early 90's, others mid-late 90's.
Personally, i would say early-mid 90's marks a Gen Zer. there's too much difference between those born in the late 80's and early 90's, and those born after that.
>>74584695
Same here in Britain
Few people my age are driving
However I feel it's down to the cost.
My car with insurance and fuel is costing me ££22 a day... To get a taxi to and from work is £8 so I'd technically be better off. But I like the freedom. The speed. And the car
>>74596267
>changing a tire
>complicated
Are you retarded?
Why would you want to pay somebody $50 to do something you could do in 5 minutes for free?
>>74584695
they don't 'hate' cars. millenials make less than the previous generations and can't fucking afford them.
they don't 'hate' houses either. it's the same shit. they can only afford to rent.
some millenials might say they hate them but this is mostly a fox and the grapes situation
