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>tfw smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day
>tfw also drinking a fifth of vodka every night

Is smoking and drinking everyday degenerate? I've been thinking about quitting both habits but not sure if I should
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>>74568631
Um yeah quit at least one

I no this is bait
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pretty unhealthy.

you'll die at 40.

but whatever, if you died doing what you love: being a junky slave to chemicals.

not judging you. i'm the same.
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>>74568631
Smoking or drinking at all is degenerate.
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>>74568631
Well yea because you're going to be in bad health and then die early, in bad condition.

If you must, just smoke weed, drink a little less and do psychedelics once a month or 2. I guarantee you, you'll be more than satisfied with those fixes and you'll be doing much much less damage.

>inb4 DUDEWEEDLMAO
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>>74568901
I like drinking
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>>74568631
I quit drinking but now Im smoking more, around 10 a day.

I need a vice 2bh. And my life sucks so I don't mind the risk of not living into an old of an age as i could
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>>74568631
tobacco and alcohol are the most degenerate drugs you faggot, you will probably die from either cancer or liver failure. Just start smoking something healthier like weed
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>>74569014
Well your liver doesn't.

If health is no concern to you, then why even make this thread?
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>I'm drinking 8 gallons of milk a day

is drinking this much everyday bad? does this mean we need to ban it all outright?
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>>74569067
>10 a day

that's nothing I smoke 75 a day
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>>74568631
have fun dying
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>>74568631
anything overdone is degenerate, moderation allows you to enjoy many things without becoming a slave to them

however, to be able to determine what is moderate for you personally, the easiest way is to experience both extremes of the spectrum, that's how the majority learns this shit
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DUDE
SHITPOSTS
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>>74569195
Bro keep making this thread and just quit. That's an absurd amount of smoking.
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>>74568631
Together, the health risks are dramatically increased.
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I work and invest in a business that sells medical equipment for people with respitory problems.
Smoke up OP. See if you can get to six packs a day. I got a ventilator with your name on it.
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>>74568631
I smoke about 4 ciggys that I rolled of 'Merican Spirit a day.

I am trying to quit because it is kind of detrimental to my health and strength training.
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>>74568631

>3 packs a day

>Leaf

How the fuck do you afford it? A pack of 20 cigs is almost $10 canadabux.
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>>74568631
If this isn't bait, how the fuck can you smoke three packs a day?
I smoke less than a pack a day and honestly feel like I've ALWAYS got a smoke lit.

How do you even find the time?
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>>74568631
>3 packs
>Canadian
Unless you're smoking garbage cigarettes you're spending at least 35$ a day, 800$ roughly per month to someone else so you can kill yourself faster
Literal cuck
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>>74568631
alcohol is degenerate. also pork, because the dna is bad for us if we consume them
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>>74569608
Costs me 36 bucks a day for cigarettes
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>>74568631
Well the good news is there will be one less shitposter on this board when you die
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>>74570243
that'll be in like 2 decades statistically though
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>>74568631
How do you afford it? That's like 9 grand a year.
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>>74570323
I work as a landscaper
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>>74569645
I work outside and pretty much smoke 1 after another
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Its detrimental to your body and mind. Take it from a recovering alcohol with two dui's under their belt. I blew a .49 on the second one...take a break from both and you will literally feel your mind clearing from the fog of alcohol addiction day to day.
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>>74568631

Quit both and take up buying chink shit from Ali like the rest of us.
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Smoking is what keeps me alive. I hope i live long enough to enjoy it more.
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>>74569068

>healthier like weed

Yeah, because inhaling a combustible material is healthy.
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>>74568631
You drink too much and smoke too much.
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OP I like having a smoke once in a while and drinking once in a while but you are way overboard my man.
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>>74568631
Pussy, Kaltenbrunner smoked over 125 cigarettes a day
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Quit while you can OP
I'm an alcoholic, and currently detoxing. I was doing pretty good for a bit, but I fell WAY off the wagon this week. It all started with a bottle of wine, and next thing I know it's 4 days later, and I have empty bottles of booze all over the floor in my room.
I love drinking, but it's slowly killing me. Pretty sure I have an ulcer from it.
It's not worth it, OP. Quit while you can.
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>>74570518
>.49

Holy fuck if real. I blew a .22 and thought that was extreme (the fact that I didn't refuse to blow proves I was retarded).
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>>74570906
Unless you get the shakes, you are not an alcoholic
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>>74570684
I drink and smoke as much as the average Canadian
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>>74571000
What about currently detoxing did you not understand
I've been shaking, vomiting, and sweating non stop all day. Not the worst withdrawals I have had to deal with considering my bender wasn't that long, but I am certainly in withdrawal.
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>>74568631
Smoking is degenerate as fuck. There's nothing wrong with drinking in moderation. The best cultures in the world do it.
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>>74571154
That's the worst feeling ever
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>>74571154
sorry, misread, how long did you drink every day for? be careful
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you are addicted, ofc its degenerate.
also smoking and drinking on a regular basis is disgusting.
Harming pleasures should only be enjoed at special celebrations.
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>>74570380
so do I, but i find cigarettes taste like ass when if I smoke while exerting myself.
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>>74568631
>3 packs a day?

Is this humanly possibly?
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>>74571416
Yeah its not that hard to smoke 3 packs a day
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>>74570143
Fuck off sand nigger
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Might as well inject crocodile. Thats cheaper at least.
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>>74571316
Thanks dad
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I drank mostly to combat my crippling insomnia. Would drink myself unconscious every night. I realized I was killing myself and sought help. Now I'm on a medication regimen that helps me sleep, haven't abused alcohol since except for social engagements. Maybe a six pack for myself once a month.

The withdrawal was awful. Shaking, foggy headed, sweated my balls off, threw up a lot, shit blood for a few months.

Now is all good. Stop while you can, anon. If you're drinking just to sleep talk to a doctor about trying some insomnia meds.
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>>74571416
1 cigarete can take 5 minutes
1pack includes 20 cigarettes
20*5*3 = 300 minutes
an average person is active about 15-16 hours a day. about 930
literally smoking 1/3 of the time.
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>>74568631
How can one go through a pack of durries let alone three of them. I'm genuinely curious how you smoke that many a day
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>>74568631
how good is your life anon?
if its the choice of a short life doing shit you really enjoy
or a long one doing shit you hate and being miserable every second of it

is it really a choice?
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>>74568631
THREE packs a day?! How do you not feel like shit? This June I'll be an entire year without smoking. I quit cold turkey after smoking for years. Just quit, you'll feel better.

Also, a fifth of liquor a day is insane too. You may need medical intervention for your alcoholism because quitting that cold turkey could kill you.
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>>74571744
I smoke 75 a day, a pack of cigarettes has 25 in it
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>>74571222
Yea it sucks, but I did this to myself.
Nice trips btw

>>74571250
This particular bender wasn't very long. When I was in my early 20's use to drink a fifth of whiskey a day, and did that for years. I have noticed once you get physically addicted to something, and quit it's that much easier to get physically addicted to it again. If I drink for more than 4-5 days in a row I start feeling withdrawal symptoms. Of course when I decide to drink I go all out.
I use to be a heroin addict too (don't touch that shit anymore), and have noticed the same thing. About day 3-4 I would start getting sick again.
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>3 packs a day

I smoke 3 cigarettes a day and I sometimes find that excessive. A bit of liquor won't kill you, but at that amount you are basically frying your liver.

enjoy your premature death.
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>>74572008
>3 cigarettes a day
>excessive

LOL what
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>>74571855
literally smoking more then 4/10 of the time.
considering this>>74571621
wtf is wrong with you smokers?
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>>74571817
I've tried to quit once but withdrawal was horrible so I got hammered again
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>>74568631
>tfw when its 1:30am whilst eating a jar of vegemite and dont want to go to sleep
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>>74570645
No one said it's healthy. Smoking a plant is ****healthier**** than smoking a plant with 60,000 additional chemicals added to it.
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>>74570645
>he doesn't vape
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>>74572214
You need to ask your medical care provider to help ween you off. They've got drugs that will help with that.
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>>74572367
>exchange drugs with otehr drugs
good goy
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>>74568631
How do you manage to smoke a cigarette every 20 minutes, that is if you don't sleep in a day
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>>74572556
I usually have one after the other
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>>74572452
Withdrawal could literally kill him without seizure meds and stuff like that.
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>>74572214
If you want to quit you're going to have to get benzos. You very well could go into a seizure if you don't drink.
Also weening yourself down helps A LOT. If you cut your drinking in half for a week, or two the withdrawals aren't nearly as bad.
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>>74572055
in my psychology anything more than 0 cigarettes is excessive. i smoke purely because I enjoy it, but I realize it's awful for you in any amount. the damage to your lungs occurs even in such low amounts. with even 1 pack a day you're basically taking a week off of your life every day.

i like to enjoy things a little, but I'd also like to become a centenarian if possible.
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>>74572340
UNCOMMON FLAG!
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>>74572340
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Quit smoking senpai. The Nicoderm patches are kinda expensive but really work...and they give you fucking wild ass vivid dreams that you're totally aware in every night.

You have to want to quit tho...if you do just follow the plan and it'll work.

And like switch to beer or something and work your way down to occasional drinker.
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>>74572055
>Reply
>taking in smoke steadily over the course of a day
>not excessive damage to your body

im convinced canadians might be literal retards.

its time to cut our hair america.
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>>74572880
1/10
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drunkbros, I'm 26 and drink a liter of 80 proof vodka split between friday and saturday night, and sometimes maybe like 5-6 beers during the week, but usually not, been in this routine for like 3-4 years. my liver typically hurts a little to a fair amount, and i've thrown up blood/bile on a handful of occasions after killing most of the liter in one night
how long till something bad happens to me, and how long till i have until its not reversable
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Quit it all, gym gym and do a sport

I jog 8 miles to work everyday (60 minutes), and 8 miles back.

Whats your excuse?
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>>74573129
>Whats your excuse?

I have a car
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>>74573129
I don't workout I get enough workout at my job
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Fifth of vodka a night is racing towards liver damage and flushing a day's worth of pay for a skilled professional each month.

Three packs of cigs a day is more lung abuse than a Dickens novel character would endure, and probably more money than the alcohol.
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>>74573065
Throwing up blood means you probably have an ulcer.
You continuing to drink hard liquor is making it so it won't heal.
With that said you honestly don't drink that much. When you start killing a bottle of vodka every day is when it's time to be seriously concerned.
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>>74572642
didnt kill my father, he quit smoking.
He wasnt smoking that much though...
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I'm assuming OP's post is legit and not bait in order to write this post. I understand you smoke 3 packs a day and I assume you get a lot of enjoyment out of it. Stop thinking in the present moment for those tiny moments of pleasure. Think about your future, think about how the cigarettes are actually taking a massive physical toll on your body, and realize that when you're much older, you will have less time in your life. You will have countless health problems. I've watched countless members of my own family die from some sort of cancer related to smoking. My grandmother died from cancer just because of 2nd hand smoke. Smoking has absolutely no worth and the best option for yourself is to get on the nicotine patches or quitting medication and stick with it. It will be VERY hard, but it's the best option you can take to stay alive well into your old age. Quitting smoking has instantaneous effects and the faster you quit, the faster you can become healthy.
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>>74573200

So do i? Admittedly, I couldn't do it in a fucking hot place like Australia
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>>74573368
The vodka costs me 24 dollars a day and the cigarettes cost me 36 a day
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>>74572642
>>74573413
Edit: maybe start smoking less and less first.
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>>74568631
My advice as a former druggie: Quit one, keep the other for 6 months. Then quit the other.

It's up to you which is more important. You can thank me later.
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>>74573413
I was talking about alcohol.

Quitting smoking suddenly won't kill you even if you're a heavy smoker, no. In fact, that's what I did.
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>>74569067
Try pyschedelics, it has helped me quit smoking.
http://howtousepsychedelics.org/addiction/
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>>74573519
>$60 a day for self-harm

Married lawyer?
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>>74569187
Bro thats bad, straight calcified piss rocks.
>This happened to me
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I'm 2 days into quitting drinking and I feel great. Of course today is day 3 and it's also payday so this is going to be a rough night to get through.
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>>74573723
I'm a landscaper
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>>74573400
Yes, I know I don't drink as much as a lot of other people in my situation, I manage to suppress the urges by working. I'm mostly just wondering if it's sustainable to drink this much forever, or if I'm going to have to slow down at some point - I really don't think I'm going to start drinking a bottle a day, I can't intefere with my work that greatly. My intake is only like 50% more than the recommended 2 units a day, but my stomach/liver are starting to get pretty swollen and painful at times, and the throwing up blood/etc. a handful of times was super shitty. I just want to know when I hit the point of no return, I'll shoot myself before I go through liver cancer/failure.
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>>74573679
I actually can confirm this.
I started smoking cigs when I was 16. I was tripping on acid when I was about 18, and realized how fucking stupid of a habit it is. I gave away my pack of cigs, and never looked back. The idea of smoking makes me sick now.
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>>74573519
You can get a handle of garbage vodka for $12. If you're gonna be a drunk do it right.
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>>74573858
Not in canada, the cheapest handle I can find is 53 dollars
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>>74568631
Quit smoking cigs all together and pick up weed instead
As for drinking there's no replacement for da white mans devil juice
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>>74573607
ah oh, thx for that info on smoking.
The point on alcohol doesnt seems strange though...
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>>74573905
Even for trash like this? Jesus Canada get it together.
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3 packs a day very excessive. That's 60 cigarettes. If you are awake for 16 hours/day, that's 3.75 cigarettes/hour, or 1 cigarettes every 16 minutes. And that's if you're smoking non-stop. How are you able to find time to smoke that much? Are you unemployed?
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>>74573766
stay strong buddy.
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>>74573988
I've never seen that
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>>74573820
Same here, I would smoke daily and someone suggested acid because Jim Morrison or something. All I did was think of my degenerate lifestyles and dropped every dumb habit I had and worked towards improvement.
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>>74574008
3 packs a day is 75 cigarettes
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>>74568901
>dude, stop drinking, just like, replace it with psychedelics

Holy shit please kill yourself you fucking retard.
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>>74570143
fuck off sand nigger
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>>74568631
What did trump say about this?
You know exactly what he said.
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>>74568631
if you're in your twenties, quit now and your lungs will recover completely. if not, you're going to get lung cancer and burden the taxpayer with a costly and extremely preventable illness. In the latter case, fuck you, you fucking cunt.
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>>74574093
Ah, American packs are 20 cigs.

But, my question still stands: how do you have the time to physically smoke that much?
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>>74569195
>that's nothing I smoke 75 a day
Nigger I used to smoke a third of that and still felt it was a bit too much.
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>>74574115
I think you might be retarded. Psychedelics really do help. Search it up before you shoot something down.
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>>74570317
>when
fucking canadians are so autistic - they would argue that the air they are breathing isn't "air" because the statistical distribution of chemicals is not perfect statistically speaking
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>>74574169

>Burden the tax payer

You mother fucker, how much money do people pay for a pack of fags. How much is that in tax?

EX smoker here and I'm pretty sure I paid at least 4/5 grand extra than non smokers
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>>74574188
I work outside so I can smoke whenever so I smoke constantly
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>>74568631
haha, I only a pack and a half
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>>74570626
poo in loo
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>>74574169
I'm 22
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>>74574041
It is the bottom of bottom shelf, I would have to mix it with powerade to get it down, though once I was drunk I would just start drinking out of the bottle
>>74574035
I've been trying to quit for months but I haven't even made it a week, got a good feeling about this one. I've even got a whiteboard where I just mark off every day I don't drink. I'm hoping seeing the progress will help me keep it up.
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By the time you quit you're already going to be dead. Might as well keep going since you'll kill over in a few months or year at most.
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>>74568631
Degenerate or not, it's going to kill you early, and the last couple years of your life will be miserable.
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>>74568631
I use to do all kinds of drugs, and drink all the time.
For the last three years I've been eating perfectly, jogging every day, and only drinking every other night and only drinking the absolute most I can drink without any noticeable hangover effects the next day (4-6 drinks normally)
I feel amazing. Trust me, just the natural endorphins and all that your body will start to steadily release are worth quitting the drugs. I've got a natural high almost all the time.
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>>74574250
More than subsidizing cancer meds and treatment for the associated health problems you cunt
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>>74570380
Again, how the fuck? Manitoba price I pay 15-19 for my brand. Are you buying rez cartons?
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>>74573932
Yeah, tobacco is just insanely addictive. There's no danger from quitting no matter how much or for how long you've been smoking.

Alcoholism is physically dangerous if you don't get your fix. You have to be deep into alcoholism for alcohol to potentially kill you like that though, like heavy binge-drinking every day for years. Something extreme like that.
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>>74574445
No I buy john player standard from the corner store, they're 12$ a pack in ontario
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>>74573988
He's wrong, you can get shit at ~$20 ez, but alcohol in Canada is pretty expensive (about twice as expensive as in yurop on average).
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>>74574322
You can go for a decade or more drinking even more than a fifth of vodka a day and do no damage. But

It depends on how young you are, but at around ~30 your body will not be able to deal with that amount... and of course this is only if you have the correct genes for it.
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>>74574492

how much do you weigh, and how long does it take you to drink a fifth? Here in america, a fifth means one fifth of a u.s. gallon, which is about 25 ounces or about 17 shots.

I'm sure you know this, but that will kill you in not too many years, unless you weigh about 400 lbs, in which case you're not going to age well either.

so, how heavy, and how long to down those 17 shots?
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>>74574314
I quit playing videogames (not sure if that is compareable)
I was playing dota 2 at least 3 hours a day, if I had more time I played up to 11 matches.
I just realized how useless it was and deleted all my games.
One must see how useless something is, then it should be easier to quit.
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>>74574369

Lets say you smoke 100 a week, for 60 years, 84,000 would go to the tax man. (UK)

Each lung cancer patient costs the NHS more than £9,000 a year, according to research published today.

Lets say you have lung cancer for three years, that's only 36,000.
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>>74574660
>drinking even more than a fifth of vodka a day and do no damage.

bull. fucking. shit.
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>>74568631
where do you live where it's called a fifth and not a 26er?
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>>74574455
>Alcoholism is physically dangerous if you don't get your fix.

Can confirm. When I quit drinking, I was consuming 1/2 gallon of whiskey per day. I tried to stop cold turkey, and I started hallucinating, vomiting brown and green bile, and shaking uncontrollably. I had to medically detoxed in the hospital for 5 days, otherwise the doctors told me that I would have a grand mal seizure and die.

It was bad times. Late-stage alcoholism is really horrific stuff. Thank God I've now been sober for over 4 years.
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>>74568901
Psychedelics and weed might be better for your psychical health, but they absolutely shoot your mental health to shit, and ruin your personality. I've done coke, speed, meth, benzos, opioids, GHB, ketamine, PCP, MDMA, nitrous all in varying amounts for 2 years; but I would never touch psychedelics. They absolutely kill the personality you had before, which is fine if you have a shit personality, but I have a perfect one. I don't know why people are so preachy about psychedelics being able to permanently change your outlook on life for the better, when they can easily also change them for the worse. Unless you OD on something and die, no other drug has the chance of ruining your life in one dose like that.
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>>74574662
I'm 170lbs and it takes me from around 6pm until 10pm to drink a 750ml bottle of vodka
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>>74568631

>3 packs a day

Dude do you light you next cigarette with the remains of your previous cigarette?

Are you the controller from Airplane II?

Cut that shit out faggot. As for the drinking that's even worse than the cigarettes. You're fucked OP.
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>>74574733
I said fifth because every time I say 26er on 4chan people don't know what I'm talking about lol on weekend nights I drink a 40 of vodka 1.14L bottle

Americans don't say 26er or 40 like we do
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>>74574822

i hope you are smart enough to make sure you don't have any kids. you are not going to live many years, and the last few will be of very low quality.
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>>74574961
We say 40 when it comes to beers and malt liquor.
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>>74575066
Yeah we call a 1.14L bottle of hard liquor a 40
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>>74575066
Can you believe those faggots over at Olde English switched to plastic bottles?

At least Colt 45 is still going
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>>74575109
Why do they sell 1.14L bottles????
It's either 350ml, 750ml, 1L or 1.75L here. Makes a lot more sense.
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>>74574246
>Stating facts is autistic
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>>74575066

what he calls a 40 is way the fuck more alcohol than what we call a 40.

he's talking about 26 shots of liquor, while a 40 is like a few beers.

he's either lying or on a fast track to dismal health followed by death.
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>>74575147
>liquor
>plastic bottles

The fuck?
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>>74569195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPIJ1xFyBGY&list=LLdOWcGxHQT6e0i_xtuw0tTg&index=108&nohtml5=False
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>>74575295

once you get to the larger sizes, it is a waste to use heavy glass bottles.
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>>74568631
>smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day
>3
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>>74575295
It's because if you're such a drunk you're drinking malt liquor you'll probably end up dropping it and breaking it. It's why the garbage vodka I mentioned here >>74573988 comes in plastic
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>>74568631
>3 packs of cigarettes.
get a vape. You'll want a sweet flavor, about 2.4-3.6% nicotine liquid 50% PG/50% VG.
You don't want a sub ohm vape. Get a tank that takes atomizer resistance 1.5+ ohms.

I was a 2 pack a day smoker and I did my research before trying this shit and made sure I got it in one go. This stuff isn't really cheap, but you save a lot compared to how much you spend on cigs. I've been 4 months without a cig now.

As for the alcohol, you'll find yourself slowing down on that too, since the PG in vapor makes you a bit dehydrated. I was up to a liter a week of Wray and nephew white rum.

Now 1 bottle lasts at least 14 days.

Idk what your demon is, but I wish you luck m8.
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>>74574709
>Cancer is the only health condition associated with smoking

wew lad, you forgot:
>diabeetus
>heart disease
>ED
>COPD
>tuberculosis
>stroke
>cataracts
>age-related macular degeneration
>pneumonia
>decreased immune function
>liver cancer
>bladder cancer
>leukemia
>oropharyngeal/laryngeal cancer
>pancreatic cancer
>renal cancer
>stomach cancer
>birth defects in offspring
>rheumatoid arthritis
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Smoking is good for you. It works as resistance training for your blood which decreases the degradation of the bone marrow that 'naturally' occurs through ageing.
Smoking 3 packs a day is like going to the gym and bench pressing your absolute maximum for twenty minutes. You should seriously consider cutting back.
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>>74575373
Plus any real alcoholic knows that glass bottles break when you accidentally drop them on the long walk home from the liquor store.
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>>74575415
>vape

Great way to burn your tongue
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>>74575420

if your countryman is actually downing a fifth each day during the week, and a 40 (26 shots) on saturday and sunday, he won't live long enough for the smoke to kill him.
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>>74575479
>Liquor store literally across the road.
>Still worry about dropping it.
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it's not degenerate to have 8-12 ounces of a typical alcoholic drink (wine, beer, etc...) with dinner

smoking and hard liquor is tho
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>>74570143
fuck off sand nigger
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>>74575469
Shut up, Ahmed. Go blow yourself up and see your virgin men in Heaven already.
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The roleplaying in this thread is fucking annoying.
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>>74568631
Nicotine increases test
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>>74575523
My tongue feels fine right now but I guess you know better as an experienced non-vaper. inb4 fedora memeie
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>>74575553
True, hopefully the assisted suicide bill will pass so I won't have to pay for his palliative care.
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>>74575479
I wore a backpack on the occasions I had to walk there
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>>74575523
Only if you're retarded or bought some cheap shit. 4 months perfectly fine here.
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>tfw OP dies and you're alive 20 years later

feels good
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>>74568727
My friends Grandpa use to have a glass of whiskey and a cigar everyday after he finished working on his farm. He lived to 94 before dieing of old age. Maybe people were just built tougher back then or something. But saying he will die at 40 may or may not be true. It's definitely not helping his health though.
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>>74575581
>d hard liquor is tho

no it is not. it's the amount of alcohol. one "normal" beer = one glass of wine = one shot of liquor.

this guy is drinking the alcohol equivalent of 17 beers each week night and 26 each weekend night.

he is either lying or a full-blown alcoholic, the kind who die at 33.
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Smoking and drinking alcohol is degenerate.
Become enlightened like us who do not do these poisons of the body and soul
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>>74569608
I believe it's actually called canadoe.
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>>74575742
Glass of whiskey everyday =/= liter of vodka

1 cigar =/= 60 cigs.
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>>74575809
>Irish
>drinking alcohol is degenerate
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>>74570143

Fuck off sandnigger
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>>74575742
>a glass of whiskey

study after study has shown that one drink, whether it is a beer, a glass of wine, or a shot of liquor is beneficial to health. the medical establishment discourages this because too many people go to 2, then 4, then 8, then turn into OP.
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>>74575647
>Let's randomly call X country a <non-White here>.
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Goddamn brother, stop giving the jews your money.

Tobacco is not just horrible, it's taxed (kikes) and made by a corporation (likley kikes) which is held by shareholders (Stock exchanges are crawling with Jews)

Cheap liquor is another way the Jews control us Goyim. They've been involved, and have openly owned, many distilleries for hundreds of years. Alcohol is taxed, so you're giving money to assholes who are telling you what to do as well.

Control(Give your time and money to someone else) has been sold to you as Liberation (Let's get drunk and smoke cigarettes). The media LIES, and we've been lied to.

Don't take the line that you're "powerless" against The Bottled Jew and the Tobacco Corporations, think about how you can EMPOWER yourself as a man to stand up to these liars selling you cancerous poison. Endure that hardship for a couple weeks and you'll become a greater man than you currently are.
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>>74576036
There's no point drinking if you aren't getting drunk
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I'm pretty close to giving in and just taking pain killers all the time

they make me feel so much better
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>>74574809

>They absolutely kill the personality you had before, which is fine if you have a shit personality, but I have a perfect one

If anything tripping makes people less egotistical, which you seem to be very.
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>>74575809
Is there a big community of recovering alcoholics in Ireland, or do they typically just push through to the bitter end?
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>>74576115
I take dilaudids sometimes, feels amazing
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>>74568631
>American Cigarettes
>Russian Vodka

Your body is a WW3 battlefield.
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>>74576105

I understand that logic. I have been there.

I've said enough. enjoy your life, OP. too many people follow the rules and have miserable lives.
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>>74574809
Look at all the drugs you have done, that explains it.
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>>74575888
>checked
I guess that's a good point.

OP, practice some moderation if you want to live a longer life, or quick all together
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>>74570143
Fuck off sandnigger
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>>74576105
>he's never had a mojito before writing a book
It's called creative sauce for a reason, you're not supposed to have too much of it or else you end up with diabetes and are kept alive at the taxpayer's expense.
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Holy shit, why not just vape or snus at least? Do you want to die on a hospital bed by the age of 40?
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>>74575147
Yea man, same with Mickeys. They are tired of fucking kids smashing bottles, worsening their images.
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>>74575295
>>74575373
>>74575408
It's so you die faster.
It's been so well proven that you get estrogen from drinking alcohol out of plastic, I would never take a single sip form anything that isn't glass. Even cands use full plastic lining with BPA in it. Anyone using plastic anywhere in the process of making alcohol is just cutting corners to save a few dollars because hey know the average person who buys liquor in a plastic bottle doesn't care about their health.
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>>74573400
>his liver hurts and he's puking blood
>still in the green
He's fucking dead dude. Liver pain was the first warning, but he keeps doing it and now he's puking blood and bile. Fuckers gone man. RIP in piss alcohol man
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>>74576359
Yeah, dip/snus is better for you. Sure, there's still the chance of cancer, but it doesn't fuck your lungs into oblivion.

I have reservations about vaping though. Everyone thought cigarettes were fine when the first came around. I feel like vaping will have some terrible effect on people down the road just like cigs.
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>>74576457
>It's been so well proven that you get estrogen from drinking alcohol out of plastic,

oh, 4chan, you never fail. lol.

HEY ALUMINUM FOIL IS ON SALE ON AISLE THREE!!!
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>>74576179
I'm a Golden God, to not be egotistical would be a hate crime against the 8th wonder of the world that I am.
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>>74576616
snus can't be compared to dip in terms of safety. snus is not known to cause cancer besides pancreatic cancer and the risk of that still remains really small.
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>>74576658
>HEY ALUMINUM FOIL IS ON SALE ON AISLE THREE!!!

Aluminum foil gives leads to Alzheimers. No way I'm putting it on my head.
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Havent smoked a cigarette in.. almost two months.

And i literally sell them for a living. Anyone who says they cant quit is a pathetic weak willed faggot.
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>>74576310
All of that was within a one and a half year window in high school, and it was mainly weed, amphetamines, pain killers and benzos.
I haven't used a single drug once in 6 years since then besides alcohol and 1mg of Xanax that I have a prescription for maybe once a month.
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>>74576881

kek. the only way it could have been funnier would be for the other guy to post that.
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>>74576658
Aluminum causes Alzheimer's.
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>>74575479
This is one of the worst feelings in the world.
>Wake up shaking
>Scrounge up 6 bucks to go get a bottle of vodka so you don't feel sick anymore
>Drop bottle of vodka on the ground while you're fiddling with your keys. Because you're shaky as fuck
>Run inside to get a towel to soak up the booze in the ground, and ring it out into a cup.
>Vodka is now brownish because the dirt on the ground
>Drink it anyway
This is your future OP
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>>74576881
lol I didn't even read that you also posted this before commenting
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>>74568631
I was where you're at before. You need to cut down to regular addiction levels: one pack of cigarettes, one 6-pack of beer. It'll give you a little more time.
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>>74570143
Fuck off sandnigger
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>>74577084
That's gross
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>>74568631
If you have been smoking for 10 years or more one pack or more a day, you had better not leave it.
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>>74577790
What?
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>>74576616
Research is already out in the UK that shows they're 95% less dangerous than cigarettes and 1000 times less carcinogenic. Speaking for myself, I can actually run more than a mile again, without feeling like I'm going to die. Only qualms are the dehydration, which should be a non issue since I'm switching to 100% VG now.
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>>74569608
Lol here the cheapest are 0.80 euro middle tier one euro and the god tier i mean mallboro etc are between 1.30 euro 3 euro pretty cheeap but there is a law every pack have 19 cigs the expensive are 20 cheap smokes here
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>>74578369
I get winded extremely fast, I can hardly make it up the stairs without gasping for air and I'm only 22
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>>74573065
I'm 40 and been doing it like that for a quarter of a century. Bit of a headache in the mornings but there's percocet for that. Figure I got maybe 10 years left if I'm lucky.

You'll be fine as long as you realize that you're at the halfway point of your life. The way things are going, do you really want to see how bad things are in 2050? Especially when you'll be too old to do anything about it?
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>>74568631
Hey OP i have a simple advice for you drinks 1l of yogurt everyday eat dairy products fruit and vegetables don't consume a lot of meat at least regenerate your body balance yourself. I had a cousins who was drinking 1l of homemade you say moonshine here is Rakija the krauts call it schnaps the alcohol concentration is 40% and there is above but it's good to know that there are no other chemical because it's homemade
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>>74578087
Leaving aside medical terminology, when you quit smoking, the desert your lungs have become begins to be colonized by a fungus. While you are smoking on a daily basis because Nicotine is a fungicide, the process doesn't happen.

The fungus carries out an important natural task. When you die, it initiates the decomposition of your body. Smoking put your lungs in a cadaveric state which is similar to one they are when you are dead.

This is not a problem if you have started smoking not long ago or if you have smoked very very little. But if have been smoking shitloads of cigarettes for years, now there is not a clean part in your lungs. And as soon as you leave your fungicide daily therapy, the fungus begin their work, which eventually kill you as they make you lack of the organs you need for the cellular respiration.
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>>74576105
False, wine or beer with food or a nice whiskey with a steak can make a meal.
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>>74575742
People used to use cigars differently back then. They did not inhale them, but just kept them in their mouths.
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>>74568631
Hat the fuck is a fifth? One fifth of a litre? That's not a late mate I think you'll be right the ciggys will fuck with you but whatever if you die you die
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>>74579364
750ml of vodka
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>>74579512
That ain't bad, everyday might be a bit much but 4 times a week is fine I think it doesn't really do much for you desu. What's your brand?
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>>74579999
Iceberg vodka
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>>74580168
Is it good? I usually get stoli but they raised the price to $27.45 and I don't really like paying that much
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>>74580305
Yeah I like it man its pretty smooth
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>>74580435
That's what I like about stoli, good taste but nice and smooth, even expensive vodkas like grey goose I found to feel and taste worse than Smirnoff
I'll check it out thanks
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>>74568631
This is obvious bait mate. I don't know how the fuck somebody can smoke 3 packs a day, especially in Canada with your taxes.
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I smoke weed all day everyday. Am ripped with a 10/10 trap gf.
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>>74568631
I'm in the same boat as you. I want to quit based solely on the fact that it's a huge waste of money
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I take acamprosate to keep back my cravings for alcohol and its hard to describe. It almost makes you forget about how nice getting drunk is..
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>>74581479
You can get a carton of ciggies here for $15 dollars mate and I remember him from another thread it's not bait unless he's been baiting for like 3 days
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>>74582310

nice. not aussie level, but impressive.
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>>74568631
Cut your drinking back to once a week. I did that recently and feel 1000x better. Regular and heavy drinking makes me really depressed, but I know some people who can do it and still seem energetic so idk.
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>>74568631
>3 packs a day
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>>74575742
A cigar and glass of whiskey is very different than three packs and a fifth
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>>74570143
fuck off sand nigger
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>>74568901
Sure, quit doing two well understood and legal drugs and replace them with highly illegal drugs, both of which are surrounded by pseudoscience and have very little legitimate research on them.
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IT'S EASY. Just start dipping tobacco all the time to keep the cravings for cigarettes away, and start drinking really high proof beer like malt liquor or those ICEHOUSE things with 8% alcohol. Drink a few of those and the calories alone will help you sleep if not the alcohol. Also mix your alcohol with benadryl so you can sleep more. Decrease alcohol consumption over a week or so to just 4 beers a night and you're in the clear. No more danger of delirium tremens or anything like that, now it's just up to you to find the willpower.
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>>74568631
When you do it that much it is.
Reliance on substance is degenerate.
>>74569014
I like drinking and smoking, I wouldn't stop anyone from doing it, but it's silly to pretend that such basic vice isn't degenerate.
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