Ancient Greece and Rome were both non-white civilizations. They had more to do with Mesopotamians and Anatolians than Germanic snowniggers from the north. How does that make you feel, /pol/?
>>74543741
>> 500 AD
>> 2016
Affects my life in no way
>>74543999
>it's the current year
not an argument
>>74543741
bretty good knowing that all my grandfathers were italians
Feels good to be part of the superior water nigger master race.
They are all "white".
There are only three races:
Mongoloid
Negroid
Caucasoid
>>74543741
Pretty good really, not being stuck in the iron age is great.
augustus the first ruler of rome had blue eyes and blonde hair
how does that make you feel shit skin rape baby
Great raves that have already peaked:
>Mesopotamians
>Egyptians
>Persians
>Greeks
>Romans
>Whites (European colonial empires)
Who's next to hold the throne? Chinese? Russians? Da joos?
We had our time guys. Sorry not sorry, it's our generation that made it all fall.
>>74543741
It makes me feel good that Slavs removed you from the Balkans.
>>74545052
and where did you get this information from? some renaissence painting? A nazi blog?
>>74543741
Nice try, nigger
>>74543741
Ancient Greece and Rome became multi-ethnic, which led to their downfall.
This is the cycle of civilizations, fucktard.
If you look at foreigners in Rome and think it was a good thing rather than a warning especially since Rome is a dead Empire then you are
FUCKING STUPID
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We wuz kingz and spaghetti
>>74543741
R u saying we wuz kangz OP?
>>74545590
>>74545814
this looks like one of those psychotic afrocentric images, kek.
>>74543741
How come Greek and Latin were indo-european languages
>>74545314
Iranians, Indians or Chinese. These three are steadily moving towards market economics and are learning from their past mistakes.
Russia and the entirety of the West have lost their fucking minds and are going BACKWARDS
Lel aryan defence force will go full WE WUZ ITALIAN on you
>>74545814
hair on mummified bodies go blonde after awhile
>>74546246
Do eyes get more blue in memory than reality?
>>74545609
Sauce?
>>74545387
Avars removed them from balkans. We removed avars.
>>74543741
They died out for a reason.
>>74545609
What downfall, you mongrel? The Greco-Roman world lives on in Europe and North America. The Barbarians' """"culture"""" had literally zero influence on how the Modern World was shaped. It's all a continuation of the political model of Rome, with adoption of the cultural reality of Greece and Judeo-Christian morality.
A culture's influence isn't necessarily seen on the longevity and size of its Empire, but on how it affects the world after it. Just see the Jews. They never had an empire to speak of, and yet the entire world adopted their religion.
>>74544710
Those are actually 3 species and anything more specific is a race
That there... is a monumentally stupid claim. I hate bad history more then I hate immigrants.
>>74546212
WE WUZ HYPERBOREANS N SHEEIT
>>74543741
This portrait of two pompeiian lawyers actually helps make the case of "demographics = destiny."
You see, things were in real decline when this was made. Now go back and look at portraits from the age of the thriving republic... White people as far as the eye can see.
Note how even as portraiture shows an ever-darkening population, the senate and emperors stay white, with some very greek/semitic-looking emperors during the last century.
In a nutshell, Rome went away because the Romans went away, and OPs image helps demonstrate this.
>>74546776
>Judeo-Christian
People need to stop using this batshit term.
>>74547687
Do you realise how pathetic you sound? You love something, and yet refuse to see what it actually is. You can't be both Christian and against the Jews.
>>74547603
Except both of those people are Samnites and they always looked like that.
>>74545052
Nobody really knows what eye and hair color color most of the Roman Emperors had. Information about that is very scarce and imprecise and some of it literally comes from nazi propaganda books. It's possible that some of them had light hair and light eyes obviously, modern Italians do as well.
>>74545608
Hair dye and wigs were popular in ancient Rome. Considering those women appear to have brown eyes I'm going to assume those are hair dyes.
>>74546402
Is this the reverse we wuz kings
>this whole thread
>this level of delusion
You're not even white, america
>>74548598
Fuck you Mexican speaking trash, america is the whitest nation on earth and #1
>>74548470
The difference is that all Ancietn Egyptian, Roman, Greek etc Royalty was actually Aryan. It can be proven by using simple logic. For example look at Italy, Greece and Egypt today. While Egypt is by far the worst Italy and Greece are also falling apart. Thus we can draw the conclusion that they are not of the same racial stock as 'their' glorious ancestors.
Jesus, all the we wuz rome and hellas people ITT.
Why can't you accept that people managed to build civilization other than nordics/germanics?
Where ancient persians nordics? Were the japanese nordic?
>>74549232
>The Romans and Greeks were nordic! That's why they considered them dumb
>>74548789
stay mad, carlos tyson
>>74543741
>Animu eyes
Fucking weebs, now we know where they come from.
>>74543741
ahmed plz stop this stupidity and go to germany to collect your welfare
>>74549867
Not meme'ing here, weebs actually originate from France. Along with the Enlightment and civil liberties, it's one of the greatest gifts France gave to the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga_outside_Japan#France
>>74543999
Triple threat!
>>74544033
You didn't even have an argument to start.
>>74544601
That's not where Plato said Atlantis was.
>>74549075
>WE WUZ EMPRAHS N SHEEIT
>>74548004
found the Jew
![flat,1000x1000,075,f[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ngTrOCm.jpg "flat,1000x1000,075,f[2].jpg")
>wait, are you saying that most of our culture was created by non white?
>ancient italics were nordic I swear!
t. anglo from colonies with inferiority complex
>>74548598
Yes I am.
![1449661688632[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/82zjmei.png "1449661688632[1].png")
>>74544710
Your mother is white, fuck off cuck.
>Roman prostitutes were required by law to dye their hair blond in order to set themselves apart
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Hair_Coloring.aspx
WE WUZ EMPEROS AND SHIEET!
>>74551814
>mfw all these blond whores think they are master race and shit
>>74544710
Are Native Americans Mongoloid then? I think not.
>>74544357
N-NO
THOSE ARE REPAINTS BY JEWS
>>74552334
Uh, yeah. They are. You can clearly see it in their faces.
>>74552334
They are though
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/22/one-wave-of-migration-from-siberia-populated-the-americas-dna-shows
>>74543741
that I am in yet another epic thread
>>74543741
You know this fresco is of a Syrian immigrant to Pompeii right?
>>74552633
He is a former slave who gained his freedom
>>74546413
Fate of Empires by Sir John Glubb
>>74552678
My mistake, though that still doesn't change the fact that the man is not native to Italy.
>>74552633
They're Samnites you faggot. That's a native Italic ethnicity.
>>74545609
They were always multi-ethnic...
>>74552754
That's true, the Frescos of the estate are really nice though if he did them himself.
>>74546776
It's nice and all that culture can live on through raped races that no longer exist but its still a bad thing when entire races die.
>Greek
>Calling anyone else a mongrel
If you think you are genetically the same as Greeks of 2000 years ago you are crazy.
>What downfall
The end of Rome as an Empire and the death of the Romans as a people, this should be obvious.
Yes, the Ostrogoths essentially carried on all the business of Romans after the fall of Rome just as Arabs will carry on the business of Europe after the end of Europeans. This is still a bad thing, mongrel.
>>74552856
More-so at later stages of their empire, just like at the later stages of the Umayyads or the Ottomans along with a many other empires that Glubb goes into detail comparing within his book.
>>74552797
Mind posting proof to back that up? I'm going off a documentary on early Christianity that I saw several years ago and remember them specifying the man as a Syrian Christian.
>>74553099
The reason Rome fell was because of the Germanic immigrants though, not the ones from the Mesopotamia or North Africa. Those were already part of ancient civilizations before.
>>74543741
They're white, I don't care if you've managed to con Italy into giving you a passport. They're Caucasian.I know it's shocking to monkeys like you, but white people do actually have dark hair and eyes too, we also tan and can even have olive skin. See Catherine Zeta Jones and Kit Harington etc.
>>74553279
That's cool, but your image is bullshit. Notice that most of the sources are literally from nazi propaganda books.
>>74552980
The Greeks as a distinct culture have had a continuous existence for over 3500 years. Just as the Byzantine Greeks weren't genetically the same as Hellenistic Greeks and Hellenistic Greeks weren't genetically the same as Mycenaean Greeks, yes, I'm not "genetically the same" as my ancestors 2000 years ago. That means nothing. There's no single break on the chain of Greek continuity, genetically, linguistically or culturally. The only peoples whose genetics, linguistics and culture don't evolve are those who don't interact with the outside world, largely because they are regressive and backwards.
>>74552980
>If you think you are genetically the same as Greeks of 2000 years ago you are crazy.
There wouldn't be a big difference, the modern Lebanese still share 40% if their DNA with the ancient Phoenician and that was 3500+ years ago and that area was taken over by more empires throughout the years than Greece was.
![b87b5wucaaauav_[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vvvgoIg.jpg "b87b5wucaaauav_[2].jpg")
>>74553279
>>74553568
Guy who compiled that stuff fucked up the very first line.
Flavum is the one for yellow/blond, subflavum is clearly something else.
Why this crap get reposted every single time?
It's an old pic with background theme from when earlson still had a subsection at the marchoftitans site before it moved to theapricity.
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/history/emperors.htm
There's still a dead link to marchoftitans in his homepage.
http://www.theapricity.com/earlson/index.htm
Anyway it was compiled by a german guy named Wilhelm Sieglin, put this in the source next time.
>All of this augments the findings of Wilhelm Sieglin, who compiled a list of 27 blond-haired Roman gods and goddesses, 10 blond Roman heroes and heroines, and 63 blond Roman historical figures, many of whom were Patricians. [Sieglin (1935) 136.]
>>74553745
Snowniggers trying to steal our history as usual.
>WE WUZ ROMANS N SHIT
>WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE ROMANS AND GREEKS CONSIDERED THE GERMANS DUMB?! THIS CAN'T BE TRUE
>>74553626
>largely because they are regressive and backwards.
I wouldn't say that. I'd say most Arabs and the Middle East are regressive and backwards and they had contact with everybody.
Meanwhile Scots are doing alright and are fairly similar to what they would have been many years back. Same thing with Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Danes, Germans. The Mediterranean is an area of heavy strife and thus there is a lot more random variables.
>>74553633
I highly doubt that the people of Lebanon 2000 years ago would look so much like Arabs who'd been confined to a corner in the Arabian peninsula. They by majority will show genetic links to the Arabs which kind of sucks any way you look at it. Nobody wants to be over half arab, I'm sure they'd rather be by majority related to the incredibly intelligent and industrious people of the fertile crescent.
>>74553745
LOL
>>74553279
>S-shut up white people weren't white we Wuz romanz n sheeit.
>>74554119
You ARE a snownigger, bud. Ostrogoths came from out of Sweden.
>>74543741
>They had more to do with Mesopotamians and Anatolians
And celt, before rome italy was full of celts
>>74554349
Using the bones of an Ancient Phoenician man, scientists were able to reconstruct how he would have looked like 3000 years ago. Go to google and type Lebanese people and tell me they don't look the same.
>>74554880
I personally don't think so. I think that they look like the mixture their genetics indicate with a heavier inclination toward arab.
Though Lebanese do run a very strange gamut from person to person, I think the Arab influence is strong.
>>74551179
Alexander the Great, the early Roman emperors and the heroes of the Iliad with the exception of Odysseus are typically described as being fair haired and light eyed
The Greek and Roman gods are also depicted as Nordic rather than like the typical Italian/Greek
This is not to say the majority of Romans and Greeks were Scandinavian, however the royal and noble lines of the conquering Indo-Europeans continued to mostly intermarry with other royal and noble houses during the several thousand years of their existence setting them apart from the commoners
You see this in India also where the elite caste people from Northern India are typically fair skinned while the commoners look like poo people. India however has had more mixing because the more southerly parts of the subcontinent were never conquered by Aryans but still culturally acclimated to the caste system, resulting in many high-caste brown princes and princesses marrying into fairer north Indian upper caste houses.
In southern Europe post the Germanic migrations it was the norm for elites to be blond, blondness has historically been associated with European royalty due to the descendants of the original Germanic conquerors during the era of the fall of the Western Roman empire becoming the new kings and nobles- Spanish kings are descended from Pelagius the Visigoth, the first king of Asturias after the conquest of Spain by Arabs.
>>74555475
I agree with you on the "gamut" part, pic related shows that the Phoenician influence is still quite apparent in some while in others the Arab side is stronger.
>>74549232
The ancient Iranians had a Nordic elite, yes. The Indo-Europeans conquered vast parts of Europe and Asia, installing themselves as the ruling elite and the natives as their servants.
This even occurred in Northern Europe and Central Asia where the people were already predominantly blond and blue eyed.
>>74544601
You don't understand why atlantique ocean is name like that
>>74548598
The mass migration of Indians into the USA is largely your fault and the fact the USA manages to dwarf your country even with those useless people just makes you look like shit. In fact it makes Europe in general look like shit and only emphasizes the fact that the Americans are descended from hardier, more intelligent Europeans who left you peasants behind.
>>74552303
>>74551814
But your countries are bankrupt and shitty and you're likely the descendants of peasants, what exactly are you taking pride in?
>>74546776
"Judeo-christians" this meme need to stop
>>74543741
>ancient art is an accurate representation of what people looked like
Is there anyone more obsessed with wanting to be black than Italians?
Tarantino does it all the time
>>74556661
It is very annoying
>>74556661
Why does it bother you?
>>74546939
this guy gets it, those are three separate subspecies
>>74556758
Yeah it's probably pretty close, the Romans were very good at art
>>74556834
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>>74556313
Pretty true actually.
>>74556885
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>>74543741
Hahahahahahaha
Max KEK!!
You are either a troll or a "WE WUZ KANGS N SHIT" retard....Thanks for the laughs.
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>>74557003
It's so irritating in America from people who don't know what "white" is. I am German/Dansk. I had blonde hair as a child. I have brown hair and a half blonde beard. But my skin is tan like pic related and people don't think I'm white.
Apparently you have to be a pink pasty Irishman mutt to be considered white in America.
>>74557018
>>74556787
Because it's a no-sense born in the last centurie.
Judeo-christiannity don't exist, it's or christian(wich already have the judaic tradition + the after christ) or "judeo" who have the judaic tradition + a different continuation after christ.
This can't be judeo-chretiens
>>74557058
>>74556834
For sculpture, not for paintings. Note how the size of the eyes in OP's picture, and how the man is dark but the woman isn't. This is for artistic reasons and should not be taken as literal representations of people who lived at the time. Busts of real Romans like Cicero, however, is different. It should be noted someone like Cicero would not be out of place in modern day Italy.
Kingz
>>74557083
dude you're ruining the thread stop spamming this shit you fucking faggot. upload it to an imgur album or something.
>>74543741
>Ancient Greece and Rome were both non-white civilizations.
ancient greeks had blond hair.
>>74557034
It's actually the exact opposite
you have to be a dark skinned Mestizo to be white in the US
>>74557120
Bitch somewhere else
>>74557089
Some people are more talented than others at drawing
>>74557120
>>74543999
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"current year"
>>74557280
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>>74557120
He ruin every thread because he has no arguments that weren't debunked so he fall back to image spam. Sad.
>>74557174
>le ancient greeks were white
lmao
>>74557111
Longer nose, longer jaw, smaller forehead, smaller eyes.
>>74557419
Nordic romans
Reminder that Rome had a semitic dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severan_dynasty
>>74557443
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>>74557425
>wahhhh stop proving me wrong
>>74557594
>>74557594
You're not proving anyone wrong you're just shouting over them and detailing the thread
>>74557617
>>74557650
>You're not proving anyone wrong you're just shouting over them and detailing the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8
>>74546413
Fate of Empires by Sir John Glubb
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf
>>74543741
if you live where the sun is, you're going to be tanned
More roman looking italians
>>74557034
Why you lying on the internet, faggot? America is the home of the fucking tan. We started the tanning bullshit: tanning beds, tanning sprays, we even have an at home tanning bed industry that's how fucking much america loves tan bodies. Dumb fuck.
>>74557650
>WE WUZ MESOPOTAMIAN N SHIEEET
>btw we don't speak their language or have their genetics
>oh and we killed the Carthaginians who we were eternally hostile towards and who were mainly Phoenicians settlers and far closer to Mesopotamian than us
>also Sumerians spoke a fucking language isolate
>but we wuz anyway always believe
It's sad how dumb you people are.
>>74557594
Dude, if you're the same guy as always, everyone has already explained to you how you're wrong.
What do we need to explain to you yet again?
Hair dyeing? Skin pigmentation? DNA analysis of ancient italian population? Just ask.
>>74556661
This image comes to mind when you say "Judeo-Christians",and I agree this meme needs to stop.
This is the problem with niggers and other biologically retarded minorities. They have no sense of... well, sense. It's just not possible to communicate on the same level.
>Greeks were black
Evidence suggests otherwise
>Whiteys made it all up
![Abraham's-Family-Tree002[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DDBRldI.jpg "Abraham's-Family-Tree002[2].jpg")
>>74558017
source: www.anglo-saxonisrael.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is a doctrine based on the hypothesis that people of Western European and Northern European descent, particularly those in Great Britain, are the direct lineal descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of the ancient Israelites. The doctrine often includes the tenet that the British Royal Family is directly descended from the line of King David.[1]
Fuck off retard.
>>74557961
>t-t-the DNA
Oh you mean the same DNA analysis that shows Italians "aren't" Mesopotamian and never were?
yeah OK
Or are you referring to how the Levant was genetically European prior to the Islamic conquests?
I never know what you cucks are talking about
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1003316
>We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.
But nvmnd hurr WE WUZ MESOPOTAMIA N SHIEETTT
>>74557910
Glad you know what people have said to me
>>74558148
>Oh you mean the same DNA analysis that shows Italians "aren't" Mesopotamian and never were?
Wait, someone here actually believs that Italians are Mesopotamian?
We're southern europeans, that's it. We're not and we've never been nordics, that's what I was saying ( I agree even with the bit on the Levant)
>>74558125
![Israelinbritainb00garn_0005[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xyickxm.jpg "Israelinbritainb00garn_0005[1].jpg")
>>74558141
>An 1890 book advocating British Israelism. According to the doctrine, the Lost Ten tribes of Israel found their way to Western Europe and Britain, becoming ancestors of the British and related peoples.
>>74558236
WE WUZ NORDICA
>>74558125
It's called lack of abstract thinking.
It separates the humans from the near-humans.
>>74546402
to understand why you are so fucking wrong you need to understand something about representing royalty in Egyptian art. Pharaohs were represented with an 'ideal' set of features that were the same from work to work. Just because they have long noses, thin lips and blue eyes doesnt mean they had any of those features in life. in reality, they were probably a little tan/dark-skinned.
>>74558141
I'm retarded because I posted an image of what came to mind when the term "Judeo-Christianity" pops up?Or am I retard for wanting the meme to end?Or could it be because in America "Judeo-Christianity" only refers to jews that are Christians?Keep tossing around "retard".It only makes you look a smart ass.
>>74557280
It's not about talent but style. Stop wallowing in your own ignorance and spamming and pick up a book. Thing is, I actually agree with you since the Romans were the first to portray humans realistically, including flaws and wrinkles... In busts. Take a look at a statue of Nero, do you think he was that built and his dick was that small?
>>74558339
We weren't.
>>74558264
The funny thing about WE WUZ KANGS is that American blacks are, on average, 25% white. They very frequently use mulattos when comparing "blacks" to some ancient statue.
I think American and European blacks forgot what actual Africans look like.
>>74558361
Those who whine about judeochristianity claim to be jews themself.
Look at the source of your pic.
>>74558236
>w-w-we're nothing like Nordics
>Just ignore all the genetic, cultural, and linguistic evidence that tells you they're incredibly similar
>>74558388
Giving statues small dicks was considered "aesthetic" ever since Egyptian times
which is kind of Ironic since they WUZ KANGZ
>>74558219
>Derp derp muricans too dumb to know what tan skin is
Gets BTFO with reality
>Well it happened to me, really it did.
Still calling bullshit. I've lived here my whole life. West coast is the home of tan beauties and the east coast is the home of orange trash, while the middle states and south are the home of the t-shirt tan lines and red necks.
America fucking loves it's tans.
>>74558541
>w-w-we're nothing like Nordics
Yeah, on that resolution we're closer to n.europeans than anything else, sure, but if you increase it you can clearly see that we're not that close to scandinavians.
>>74558657
>Euros aren't similar I swear
http://www.livescience.com/29390-all-europeans-share-recent-ancestors.html
>Just ignore the fact they all have a common ancestor proving they are closely related
>never mind we from Mesopotamia n shieeet
>>74558434
Romans are decent from acient nordic aryans. Which is the the reason they were able to rule the world. Modern italian are arabic rape babies
>>74558657
Don't you think he get tired of being BTFO every single time for months on ends?
>>74558715
>Euros aren't similar I swear
Dude, I'm not saying we aren't similar, I'm saying we aren't nordics, we're southern europeans.
>>74558739
>Modern italian are arabic rape babies
There's barely any arabic admixture in italy.
>>74558739
>arabic rape babies
No
Only Sicily was ever held by Muslims (and they were Berbers not Arabs)
>>74558541
I have no idea what I'm looking at. Please explain!
>>74544710
What about aboriginals?
>>74558838
>>74558847
Nice try arabs
![gMoj2Ko[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/svdoTXH.jpg "gMoj2Ko[2].jpg")
In addition to the very few genetic common ancestors that Italians share both with each other and with other Europeans, we have seen significant modern substructure within Italy (i.e., Figure 2) that predates most of this common ancestry, and estimate that most of the common ancestry shared between Italy and other populations is older than about 2,300 years (Figure S16). Also recall that most populations show no substructure with regards to the number of blocks shared with Italians, implying that the common ancestors other populations share with Italy predate divisions within these other populations. This suggests significant old substructure and large population sizes within Italy, strong enough that different groups within Italy share as little recent common ancestry as other distinct, modern-day countries, substructure that was not homogenized during the migration period. These patterns could also reflect in part geographic isolation within Italy as well as a long history of settlement of Italy from diverse sources.
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555
>most of the common ancestry shared between Italy and other populations is older than about 2,300 years
But go on and keep imagespamming.
There's not many left of either of them.
What I can remember in my life time is that I have seen one only roman here.
Trust me when I say this, I am not here to deceive.
>>74543741
the fact that germans have been destroying everything they touch since they came to europe ?
Pretty bad
>>74558496
I'm not even whining about it.Holy shit.I rarely hear the term unless it's directly from kikes that converted to Christianity or people throwing it around on /pol/ randomly "memeing" it.I posted a pic,and you went dodecahedral-giga-nuclear-fusion-reactor-retarded.
>>74559078
this is what the rest of Europe will look like in 200 years
>>74558799
I just BTFO him cuckboy
>>74558838
>we're southern europeans.
You said WE WUZ ANATOLIA AND MESOPOTAMIA in the OP
too bad you can't delete the thread now and hide your embarrassment
>>74558957
Principle Component Analysis for Single-nucleotide polymorphism in human genetics
>>74559078
>reverse image search
>hispanic american family
nice try, cuck but they're only considered white here.
>>74559078
>that's arabic
ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>74559247
>You said WE WUZ ANATOLIA AND MESOPOTAMIA in the OP
dude that's not me
>>74559286
I just assumed the shitposting Italian was the same Italian who made the thread
my mistake
>>74558799
>>74558657
It's irrelevant because modern Italy is shit
>>74558739
How did the Arabs rape the Italians when they never ruled Italy? Normans ruled longer and in the same area, shouldn't Italians be nordic?
>>74559467
Go to Italy then go to Mexico (or Detroit)
I bet you'll think its the exact same thing.
>>74559467
>It's irrelevant because modern Italy is shit
You've never even been here kek
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>>74543741
>>74544357
None of these look any different to virtually any modern Italian you can find, the darker ones look like Southerners and the blond pale ones look more Northern and Alpine, are half of you retarded or just blind?
Being European is not so much about the colouring its about facial features, Sicilians for instance (like the pic here) are dark but they don't have that camel eyed hook nose weak chin face with features all out of proportion that nearly all Arabs/Turkroaches have
>>74559612
Dude, italy is a shithole like all the g8 countries and the main four western european countries.
Mexico and albania is where is it, whiter too.
>>74559726
>Sicilians are white
C'mon man are you serious? Have you ever met a Sicilian IRL?
>>74559849
sheeeeeit nigga, you be right
>>74543741
>Augustus Caesar
>Blonde/Red hair
>Blue eyes
>How does that make you feel, /pol/?
I think Italians and Greeks are white though (maybe even whiter before).
>>74559537
I love how you guys keep posting these pictures as if you understand what they even mean.
Feel free to explain to me the numbers and coloring.
>>74544601
>Atlantis
>White
>>74545608
>Feels
>brown eyebrows
>brown roots
>brown eyes
>olive skin
its a dye or wig
>>74560018
In the file name
>>74548203
Dude, blonde hair and blue eyes are superior. A brown eyed ruler would look after blue eyed women. A blue eyed ruler would look after blue eyed women.
Try find a picture of an attractive blonde, blue eyed woman and replace the colour of her eyes and hair with brown/black.
>>74559881
I really don't give a shit about your anecdotal evidence when ultimately the hard science doesn't support what you're saying
Read HBDchick, Sicily is more or less fucked up because of patterns of Southern European inbreeding not because they're dark or because of some ridiculous Arab rape baby theory
>>74543741
Greece was actually more North African than Mesopotamian, at least genetically, culturally, yah, they were closer to Carthaginian Semites than any other culture in the world.
>muh cradle of western civilization
>>74560441
I would guess they had closer ties to Egypt than to Persia, so that is logical.
![Ilmar_Reepalu_i_Kärrtorp_i_dec_2013-2[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PMhOjsM.jpg "Ilmar_Reepalu_i_Kärrtorp_i_dec_2013-2[2].jpg")
>>74560210
>blonde hair and blue eyes are superior
Indeed, that's the features of the mayor of Malmo from the 1994 election until his retirement on 1 July 2013.
Now its a progressive multiethnic city free of hate.
>>74560350
>Southern Europe wasn't under Islamic (Arab) control for centuries
Okie dokie
Feel free to post what you're referring to specifically. I don't know what HBDchick is. Siciliy is one island in all of Southern Europe. Inbreeding doesn't explain Grease, Crete, or Southern Italy.
>>74560441
>WE WUZ PHOENICIA N SHIEEET
>>74546246
You realize that different colors of hair are observsbly different under a microscope
>>74560441
The Black Athena theory has been debunked hundreds of times and ancient Cretan samples were found to have DNA close to contemporary Western European clusters, so no, not 'genetically'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22527821
>>74560508
Ok?
Also, I am pretty sure that guy is not Swedish because of his name.
>>74559537
>>74560018
Here buddy
>>74560590
>posts a bunch of unreadable meme graphs
I'd be willing to bet you can't even explain what half of these graphs you're posting mean
>>74548203
Flavius means blonde in Latin. It was a common surname back then.
>>74560441
I think you're exaggerating Greece's similarities with Phoenicia and Egypt due to Greece's proximity and some cultural exchange (Greeks adopting the Phoenician alphabet being one of them).
>>74559726
Completely right. White race is about facial features.
>>74560788
>France
>North Italy
>British Isles
>"""""""Germanic""""""""
>Baltics
>Slavic
>Balkans
>East Slavs
fuck's sake
>>74560791
Did you not take High School biology?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-nucleotide_polymorphism
>>74560788
What is pink?
>>74560511
That's irrelevant, you can be under the rule of anyone for centuries and it can easily barely make an imprint. For example British DNA clusters are still virtually identical to outlines of Dark Ages kingdoms in spite of all the gigantic amounts of political and cultural upheaval since then & the British tendency to breed outside of familial structures compared to most people on earth...
In any case, Sicily was ruled by Arabs for far fewer years than it was ruled by Normans and Frenchmen
>>74560996
inb4 Balkans are East Slavs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Slavs
>>74560996
>discussing racial genetic markers
>calls it high school biology
>public high schools teaching genetic racial differences
>in america
fuck man you're obnoxious as hell
>>74560996
>France
>North Italy
>British Isles
>"""""""Germanic""""""""
Thats the commonly understood name I assigned to it. You could also say "Nordic" or "white" or "Western," whatever else you like, arrogant fag
>>74561000
The groupings have multiple types. Blue and pink are Germanic, Dark Green and Yellow are West Slav, Red and Orange are East Slav, and Light Green is Med.
There's also an aberrant West Slav (yellow) type in Turkey. No idea why.
>>74548470
There were European kings in Egypt, there were Nubian kings, too... The history of Egypt spans Millenia. American niggers were never anything major, and they are the main proponents of 'WE WUZ KANGS AND SHIET'
The idea that they were all Aryan or Nubian is retarded, though.
>>74560508
>>74560726
"Ilmar Reepalu was born on 11 October 1943 in Nõva, Reichskommissariat Ostland (now Estonia)."
Literally born with blonde hair and blue eyes because of Germany.
>>74560441
>at least genetically
What is the R1b haplogroup?
>culturally they were closer to semites
What is PIE and why is ancient greece considered a division of it?
>>74554422
>Eastern Goths
They formed Austria, though.
>>74560441
>WE WUZ GREEKS
kek does it never end
>>74543741
>Ancient Greece and Rome were both non-white civilizations.
Italians aren't white anymore? Where do I sign up for my oppressionbux?
>>74561232
Yeah, but why are Sweden, Finland and Iceland blue, while Norway and Denmark pink? Is there some logic behind it? Does the difference represent anything?
Iceland was settled by Norwegians mostly.
>>74561182
SNP is not inherently about race
>>74561232
I'm arrogant? You're the one that thinks that there's some distinct pure "Euro" when there isn't. All Euros are closely related
http://www.livescience.com/29390-all-europeans-share-recent-ancestors.html
>There are no clear clusters or groups within the European population
>Except for "genetic outliers" such as Saami, Finns, Basques and Sardinians, Europeans are somewhat genetically homogeneous
>Individual population groups are often closely related to their immediate neighbours (irrespective of language or ethnicity)
>There is a southern to northern genetic cline, and populations in southern Europe are older and more genetically diverse than those in northern Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Slavs#Genetics
>>74561499
>Yeah, but why are Sweden, Finland and Iceland blue, while Norway and Denmark pink? Is there some logic behind it? Does the difference represent anything?
I don't have the source. xGuI1asF does. Its probably a different SNP, in that the most common genetic marker is pink instead of blue but there would still be a lot of blue in pink countries and a lot of pink in blue countries. There's probably not a significant difference genetically. I just grouped them together for the anon who didn't understand it
>>74560698
>North African
>Black
WEEE
Also, not a DNA study, only skeletal, which can hardly make any concrete conclusions. AND, the Egyptian/North African influence is not even denied.
>>74558984
They're not human
>>74560877
>Early art = Egyptian
>Alphabet = Phonetician
>DNA = Middle Eastern
>exaggerating
How?
>>74561389
>What is the R1b haplogroup?
Where is it? >pic
>>74561478
>implying sand-niggers need any european affiliation
You're the hunter-gatherer savages here, Tyron.
>>74561249
Yes, this. I have considerably more respect for Ethiopians than West African nigger slaves. We really got the bottom of the barrel.
>>74559537
You can take 60% off Finland, that'd be the taxes.
>>74560441
Stfu arab
>>74560441
>SPARTA, city in Greece; ancient city-state in the Peloponnesus, called Mistra in Crusader times. The earliest information on the relations between Sparta and the Jews is the letter said to have been sent by Areus, king of Sparta (309–265 B.C.E.), to the high priest *Onias I (I Macc. 12:20–23). In this letter Areus sends his greetings to the Jews and proposes a full alliance in the words, "your cattle and goods are ours, and ours yours." It also refers to a written tradition that the two peoples are of the stock of Abraham (cf. Jos., Ant., 14:255; see *Pergamum). This was apparently included in one of those books dealing with the genealogy of the various nations, which were widespread in the Hellenistic era, or it may have been based on the well-known work of *Hecateus of Abdera. It is possible that the contemporary political situation, the relations between the *Ptolemies and Sparta on the one hand and the Jews on the other (idem, 109) forms the background to this alliance, as well as perhaps some sympathy of ideas (cf. Y. Baer, in: Zion 17 (1952), 35). Josephus, who quotes the text of the letter (Ant. 12:22–26), adds some details which do not appear in I Maccabees. I Maccabees (12:6–18) also quotes a letter of Jonathan the Hasmonean to the Spartans and (14:20–23) a letter of the Spartans to Simeon the Hasmonean. Some scholars regard these letters as either wholly or in part fictitious (see F.M. Abel, Les Livres des Maccabées (1949), 231–3). Corroborating evidence for these relations is to be found in II Maccabees (5:9) which describes the flight of the high priest Jason to Sparta because its people were close to his.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0019_0_18944.html
>>74544710
what are native americans
>>74562203
Your map
Really interesting how Finland is more mongol than Russia. I don't think it's very accurate though, because the Baltics are also more mongol than Russia.
Also pretty interesting how much Slavic Norway and Sweden have in us. I guess bringing home loads of Slavic and Celtic (R1b) women during the Viking-era does something to the gene pool. According to this map, Norway is just as Slavic as Estonia.
>>74557174
Yup blonde hair and milk white skin, perfect for the local climate of Greece.
When you talk about ancient greeks, you're really talking about Minoans, classic period Greeks were when Athens was on the scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXLCqA2ARSw
/pol/ btfo again
>>74557362
Nice try dimwit.
>>74557111
Augustus has a wider head, not a nordic horse face.
>>74559881
>60%
>>74562842
Any mention of "Jews" in history, I take with a grain of salt, tbqh, Jews have exaggerated their role in history quite significantly, when they were virtually unmentioned by most of their supposed neighbours.
>>74562902
I think people are always tricked by these maps, and forget that they span the whole population of each area, you can easily have multiple ethnic groups in the same area, but they rarely mix.
For example, pic-related shows some J2 (Northern Arab/Mesopotamian) influence in Egypt, but it doesn't show that most of it is concentrated in the Sinai peninsula, not the Nile valley, where most ethnic Egyptians live. I think it'd be the same in Finland and other Nordic countries.
>>74563249
>Implying Egyptian/Minoan stylistic art is any indication of actual skin tone
Who is the dimwit here?
>>74557111
I know that nordic revisionists are deluded and autistic as fuck but i didnt know they were autistic to the level that their basic facial recognition instinct is completely fucked.
They look nothing alike - the only thing similar is the lighting you absolute cretin
Anglos and Mediterraneans have always been the civilization builders of the world. Step up you faggots. Even the books that inspired your beloved hitler admitted so
"The Nordics are, all over the world, a race of soldiers, sailors, adventurers and explorers, but above all, of rulers, organisers and aristocrats in sharp contrast to the essentially peasant character of the Alpines ... The mental characteristics of the Mediterranean race are well known, and this race, while inferior in bodily stamina to both the Nordic and the Alpine, is probably the superior of both, certainly of the Alpines, in intellectual attainments." Grant accepts that Mediterraneans created Semitic and Egyptian cultures, but insisted that Greece was "invigorated" by Nordics, and that "Roman ideals of family life, loyalty, and truth, point clearly to a Nordic rather than to a Mediterranean origin"
>>74563773
It's mildly indicative but needs to be contextualized with other evidence. It makes sense that Minoans would have looked close to other people from the ME. It doesn't make sense to think they were black
>>74563614
Poles are the biggest group of immigrants here in Norway (I think they have surpassed Swedes). But that does not count for all that yellow. Historically we did take home a lot of Slavic women/Slavic people moved in and mixed.
If you look at Iceland, they are very red because it was very common to take home women from Britain.
Norway and Sweden have Sami-people (Mongols), but Finnish people are almost a pure Nordic/Mongol mix. I would guess that a group of like 100% mongols settled there and over time were settled by Nordics and became the Modern Finish people.
>>74563932
This is all obviously a load of bullying but let's be honest that Nords were a truly amazing and remarkable people who accomplished some truly spectacular things. It's too bad the ones who remained in Scandinavia are basically niggers. Some alpha stock should have remained to breed all the women
>>74543741
I'd like to thank them for the White side of their genes which made them so based.
>>74564146
Bullshit, not bullying
>>74562203
>>74563614
>>74560441
>>74563773
Where do they clump up with Semitic peoples exactly?
>>74543741
Left looks reasonably white, right looks like like one of those swarthy arab looking fucks we have around sometimes.
>>74564146
>Nords were a truly amazing and remarkable people who accomplished some truly spectacular things.
"Nords" are stronger and more beautiful than other white people. We are not more intelligent (average) as far as I know. Scandinavia has historically been poor with poor soils and rough climate.
We dominate pretty hard in Olympic medals per capita and Nobel prizes per capita, while we today are among the best countries to live in despite long winters bad weather.
When the world was unexplored, we explored. We shattered large parts of Europe despite our numbers in the Viking-era. We have not made much impact on architecture and culture in general though. In literature maybe (Knut Hamsun was actually very important for how American literature developed).
>It's too bad the ones who remained in Scandinavia are basically niggers
What
I think the reason why people think that Nordic countries were more "alpha" before is because of the portrayal of Vikings as being rough and dirty. In reality they were very concerned about hygiene and appearance (even the men), so much that they disliked others because they were dirty.
>>74563943
>mildly indicative
Hardly, we know this because both cultures adopted photo-realism near the turn of the 1st century, and they bore little resemblance to their early form. Also, skin tone of native populations is always tied to the amount of UV they are subjected too, so a Middle Easterner who had lived in Europe for millennia would definitely be paler than their native counter part.
>>74564136
I always thought Sami culture is more prominent in Finland, no?
>>74564331
WTF is that picture even? did you forget to include the caption or something?
>>74565207
How and why are Norwegian posters so much different, better and more educated than swedish posters? its a fucking world of difference in quality
Keep it up - maybe your based-ness will catch the attention of the swedes one day
Feels good man
>>74565537
oops, wrong pic, meant to post a UV map.
>>74565537
I have not read about how Finland was settled, but my guess would be the Mongols that settled Finland, also were the same people that became the Sami people. The language is in the same language group (or what it's called). The Sami people were are a lot more inbred though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fftnExG-WFg
The map is not where they were in majority, just where they lived historically (and today).
