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How do flat earthers account for the fact that you can travel from point a to point b by going around the earth? Is it like pac man and you just end up teleporting to the other side of the screen when you reach the edge?
>>74543040
Clearly just travel around the edge you retard
>>74543068
Can't tell if reading comprehension or just typical Australian shit posting
>>74543040
The outer rim is an ice wall, we know this rim of ice as the North and South polar ice caps. Clearly globalist propaganda has clouded your thinking.
>>74543040
They believe no ever did exactly that, since it's impossible.
>>74543129
You should account for the fact that making a flat earth thread will get you 95% shitposts
>>74543040
Why did you waste your time posting this?
>>74543513
I saw a post about the flat earth conspiracy and I genuinely wondered how they would account for this.
>>74543406
what would any organization gain from supressing tons of documentation in order to trick humans into thinking the earth was round? what benefit is that to anyone?
>>74543040
> How do flat earthers account for the fact that you can travel from point a to point b by going around the earth?
It's something to do with being mentally deficient. Perhaps too much lead or mercury in their diet. Foetal alcohol syndrome. Something like that.
>mfw in a few years affordable orbital travel becomes real
flatters on suicide watch
>>74543040
Everyone knows our realm is an infinite plane, the only reason it appears rounded is because the mortal eye cannot perceive infinity.
>>74543040
>Is it like pac man and you just end up teleporting to the other side of the screen when you reach the edge?
You just answered your own question faggot.
>>74543040
Stop pretending that anyone cares about flat earth, It's >>>/X/ stuff.
>>74543040
An even better question: if earth is flat, then how does the global day/night cycle work?
>>74543788
a disc can rotate about an axis much like a sphere can
the flat earth theory was designed to be a "decoy" theory to discredit real conspiracies by using people who are very egotistical and have a skewed perception of reality that they cannot comprehend a "round" earth. even though there is many many proofs
>>74543916
>aussies
The "Flat Earth" is more like a globe that has been flattened from the top rather than a traditional flat map. Imagine a globe that had been peeled up from the bottom until it could lay down flat on a desk.
It still doesn't make any sense, but there you go.
>>74543040
I believe they usually claim that there is some sort of non-euclidean geometry, which is why when you believe you are traveling on a straight geodesic path with respect to the sphere, you are actually traveling on these curved paths which make it near impossible to reach the south pole which is where they claim the earth ends.
Like many conspiracy theories, they use math that is far beyond the average joe (or the average follower of the conspiracy theory), in this case differential geometry, to explain what would be considered obvious flaws and shortcomings of their conspiracy theory. This means that when someone attempts to disprove their theory they can always claim that person doesn't understand the underlying math. A similar but somewhat more serious example of this is the physics paper 'An exceptionally simple theory of everything' which has generated something of a cult following.
>>74543612
The belief in the globe suppresses the creator, the globe makes man irrelevant, a tiny speck of dust in an infinite universe.
The truth of humanity living on a purpose built construction with everything provided destroys that myth and weakens anyone's position should they be trying to enslave said population.
Not that a small percentage of people belonging to a certain religious and racial sect basically control "global finance".
>>74544295
>is more like a globe that has been flattened from the top rather than a traditional flat map
So it's an ellips then
Which is what fucking Earth is imagined as.
Earth is not a perfect sphere, it's an ellipsoid.
How fucking dense are you, USA?
>>74543916
That's true, but the sun would be still up on the whole side. Yet, the US is clearly in night when the other side of the world is in the day.
>>74544518
>>74544295
Flat earthers don't believe this though, they think everything is on the "top" side.
I'll give a serious answer.
The equator line forms a circle around the middle of the earth, if you travelled east constantly in a flat earth you would go around this circle as a compass uses poles to dictate position.
The day/night cycle is explained by a supposed spotlight sun that rotates around the earth. The moon and sun are said to be the same size.
What I did find interesting about this theory is that the Bible implies the moon and stars exist within a firmament of waters. It is scientifically possible to create a glowing star in water by using soundwaves. They claim that is the explanation behind the sun being created when God spoke "let there be light"
It is truly saddening to see all of these brainwashed round earth shills in this thread, they never seem to grasp the truth of the flat earth, even when they are continuously getting BTFO in every single argument.
>>74544732
I always wondered why your flag looks like an australian one. Now I know why.
>>74543040
Simples.
>>74544648
> Yet, the US is clearly in night when the other side of the world is in the day.
jewish LIES
Antarctica is the edge you retard. you ever see one of those maps with the north pole in the middle and everything else expanding out from there? thats how the earth really looks from space. Antarctica isn't a continent, its our cage
If the earth is completely flat why a ship sailing away from the shore disappear bottom-top? If it's really flat it should fade equally and that is not the case.
>>74544835
>>74544938
like this
>>74544938
>Antarctica isn't a continent, its our cage
Do you live back in XII century? Do you not know of a miraculous humanity creation called "airplane"?
Do you want me to enlighten you?
Like nigga just fly over it.
>>74544967
It is just an illusion caused by distance and perception.
hello yes i am pacman
>>74543040
>Flat earthers
Don't exist, it's shills trying to make the right wing look bonkers.
>>74543040
Have you ever been above artic poles you piece of shit ?
>>74545056
protip, there are Z E R O flights over Antarctica. look it up
>>74544835
just stretch my antartica up
>>74545040
timezones are complete jewish fabrication
it's invented to enable certain market strategies around the world in order to maximise profits
>>74545247
>look it up
Ok. Now what, smartpants?
>>74545145
>this
</thread>
>>74545301
>timezones are complete jewish fabrication
Indeed, they are a lie.
>>74545301
Where is the sun in the sky where you live?
Daily reminder that the Flat Earth Theory is a 15 million dollar tax-payer-funded psyop to discredit right-wingers.
>>74545393
above me
>>74543040
then why did columbus not arrive in India? Checkmate atheists
if you want 100% proof of a flat earth look into "southern hemi"sphere" " flight paths
most notably auckland to buenos aires
>>74543629
Artificial memories, they'll sedate and condition you into believing that you went into space when really you never left the hotel.
>>74545490
See it's below me where I live. You are below me.
>>74543788
the sun rises in the east, goes over the world, sinks on the west side of the edge. As we all know, light travels only fractionally faster through air than honey flows, and so all people on earth perceive the sun to be at a different place all together.
>>74545541
>that pic
Trump will make america big again
You go from point a to b by drawing a big circle. Circle is so big that you feel like you are following a line.
Nobody is teleporting from sides. Government tells airplane companies to stay clear off the edges.
>>74545765
shut up ghost im pacman
>>74545676
Then how come Alaska is only dark half the year instead of the whole year?
>>74545569
Get your ass to mars
>>74545313
>no routes ever actually go over the "pole"
Try again you raging faggot.
>>74545676
>As we all know, light travels only fractionally faster through air than honey flows
This thread is worrying.
>>74543040
>the earth is a buttplug
>earth will never make your asshole gape 20,000 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4rc8idyik
I hope you have a couple hours to kill.
>>74545931
>paid NASA shill
pay no mind my flatbros
>>74546058
Skip to about 1:50:00 for some interesting animations.
>>74546046
Can't you tell trolling by the letters?
Fuck off CIA disinfo shill.
It's even worse because OP is pretending to not be a flat earth faggot and yet he's starting a thread on this slide garbage.
>>74546111
Are you retarded? I was defending the flat earth theory you autistic neckbeard.
>>74546160
yeah sure. your autism actually helps discredit the flat earth
>>74546160
>Defends flat earth
>Calls someone retarded
k
>>74544835
>>74544938
and yet planes fly arcs of great circles between Australia and south America, which makes no sense in your image.
>>74543643
>infinite plane
There are maps of the earth's surface and you can actually go to those places depicted on maps. I have tried it myself and so far the maps have always been correct.
Also, centripetal force would force things to coalesce in to a disk. Why would "space dust" just form a spheroid if it has constant rotational force?
>>74546131
It's maybe not this thread itself, but the fact that the Flat Earth Society exist.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
It's doubtful to think that everyone on that site is there to troll.
>>74545541
>most notably auckland to buenos aires
An arc of a great circle? The path of least distance on a sphere?
>>74546244
Disprove it then.
>>74543040
Im assuming they are poor and have never traveled.They don't believe in pictures from space so they would have to see the world first hand to believe its not flat.
>>74546355
Southern hemisphere flights don't take 2x longer than northern hemisphere ones.
>>74546258
Let me tell you as a Geographer that maps are lying, deceitful, bastardly things and that it certainly wouldn't be difficult at all to make a accurate map of a disc world look like that of a spherical one. Certainly not if you pretend that you have to build all kinds of inacuracies into it because you can't reasonably project a sphere onto a 2D plane.
>>74546325
the flight path is an arc to give the illusion you are on a globe earth
if you map it on the real flat earth map the time it takes to travel between the locations makes more sense
>>74546465
>implying all planes fly at the same speed
>implying that all flight paths take the most direct route
>>74543406
hahaha, proper australia
>>74546506
But we have globes from hundreds of years ago
>>74546558
No it doesn't you nigger, on your flat earth Auckland to BA is like 3x further than London to LA, yet the first flight is 12 hours long and the second 11 hours somehow and not 4.
Do the planes all slow down in the northern hemisphere or something?
>>74546580
So they have extra special supersonic planes for the southern hemisphere then?
You guys are fucking bonkers
>>74544835
this is just earth from different angle and then making it 2D map.
if you going to fold this into 3D it's just going to be normal round earth with antrtica at the south pole.
>>74546580
>implying he didn't mean 2x longer on a same airplane model, flying on the same speed
really, flat earth is as retarded as letting muslims in your country.
ITT: people getting trolled in a classic, easy way
Everyone is also forgetting that on trans-oceanic flight paths, aircraft try to stay over land as long as possible, that way, if there's and emergency, the plane can (hopefully) land at a nearby airport. It might take longer, but it's safer.
>>74545313
thanks for proving me right retard
>>74546355
Explain this.
>>74545765
this
>>74546676
how dense are you?
this photo shows the chicago skyline from 52 miles away there should be over 1800 feet of curvature
globers BTFO
>>74546676
Yes, they have supersonic planes for the southern hemisphere.
Actually, planes fly slower in the northern hemisphere. If you've ever actually flown outside of the UK, you can watch the airspeed of the plane you're flying in. From my experience, the plane usually flies around 250-350 miles an hour. Commercial airliners have the capabilities of flying more than twice that speed.
>>74546506
That's funny, I'm actually a Geographer myself. You're right, I'm not saying that you can't tweak maps to depict nonsense. The burger I quoted said
>infinite plane
>infinite
Maps cannot show infinite areas. Nothing to do with Geography
>>74546862
>ignore my points and just bring up something else
Damage control.
>What is atmospheric refraction and a fata morgana
>>74546890
I flew to Iceland and the plane flew 850km/h, at its designed flight cruising speed. Or are you now saying that the 11 hour flight to LA means LA is only 3000 miles from London?
>>74546784
Seriously, is Flat Earthers anything but a satirizing attempt aimed at Creationists?
>>74546838
You need to watch the video I linked and skip to around 1:59:00. The demonstration he shows will answer that for you.
>>74546862
>>74546956
Actually wait, where is the proof this was from 52 miles away and not just from a boat some miles out? Where is the evidence?
>>74546838
but they don't? the moon looks the same no matter where you are on earth or otherwise
>>74543040
>flat earthers becoming a thing at the same time when millennials are coming out as full blown communists
>>74547067
It does not.
>>74547067
>the moon looks the same no matter where you are on earth or otherwise
t. never been south
>>74547187
nice fake image shill.
>>74547030
actually 57 miles away
>>74547267
Again, where is the proof it was taken at that place? Image searching it links only to flat earth shilling sites and no other sources.
Why should I believe that when it's easy to take a boat image taken in the lake and claim it was taken 60 miles away? Hell some flat earther could have made it and just bullshitted where from with ease. If I believe this without evidence you should believe NASA imagery too.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74544518
>ellipsoid
It's actually an oblate spheroid.
>>74544831
YOU SUMMON HIM
>Future shitposters may disregard anything /pol/ claims by saying "/pol/ thinks the Earth is flat for fuck's sake"
I'm distracted by this thread
>>74547246
This shit is hilarious.
>>74547422
use your eyes. even at 7 miles out the skyline should begin to dip below the "horizon"
and the pic was obviously taken more than 7 miles out
>>74546862
we can see that the bottoms of the buildings are obscured which would not be the case on a Flat Earth
>>74547522
>furry
stop right there mister
>>74546254
Planes don't fly over antarctica, moron. Why do you think it costs so much and you need government clearnance eh?
>>74547522
But it is flat. I've been to Antarctica, the Ice walls surround the edge for miles, and there's nothing on the other side.
>>74543629
It will never happen. It cannot happen, since there is no <orbit>
>>74547163
People in south rotate their cameras by 180 degrees.
>>74547614
>even at 7 miles out the skyline should begin to dip below the "horizon"
Which is why those towers are all part below the horizon?
>>74547623
that's the heat from the pavement
>>74547732
>Planes don't fly over antarctica, moron
http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Antarctica
>>74543129
Or you just have a hard time understanding how curves can be straight lines lol
do you even physics
>>74547802
no they're not i explained this here >>74547821
>>74546254
Nobody ever flies over antarctica m8
>>74547868
>curves
>straight
>>74547889
>>74547821
Makes no sense whatsoever, go back to school.
>>74547891
See >>74547834
>>74543612
>>74544509
ironically, man would be LESS relevant if there was some being who made Earth into a petri dish and we are its bacteria.
The creator would just make new ones.
When you take a look at the fact that we're the only known intelligent life in this universe THAT makes us relevant.
For all we know we could be it. We fuck it thats it
But if there's a creator then we dont matter because there is still Him out there...
The earth is not flat.
It's a prison world ran by archons.
>>74547834
Well yeah, people have obviously been to Antarctica. They just never go over it.
Why else would flights go through New Zealand and Australia? Countries so far away from Europe?
If the Earth was truly round, they would just take a direct flight.
>>74547980
you've just been thoroughly brainwashed by MSM
think for yourself once in your life
>>74547956
Longest straight line you can sail on the earth is this. There are no real straight lines on a sphere's surface, they're replaced with arcs of great circles (being the shortest path between two points on the surface, like a line is the shortest path between two points on a plane, the geodesics of their respective geometries). When projected onto a 2D map great circles will appear curved.
Just going to leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqzg_1kojPc
I just got to ask, what would the reason for different governments be to claim the world is round rather than flat?
I mean, European and Islamic governments have been claiming that since the Ancient Greeks.
>>74548038
This guy here, he's a knower.
>>74548076
I studied Maths at uni m8, on the applied side so I have a good understanding of physics, especially gravity, orbital motion etc that were all first year stuff. And fluid dynamics in 2nd/3rd year. That's not what heat does.
>>74548164
then prove it
sail the entire distance and upload it to youtube
>>74548038
So we're all space Australians?
>>74548164
Interesting how, if you take a point at the middle-top of that image and make it the center of a circle, then close the sides of that image around that point to create a flat disc, that path becomes a circle, which only further confirms everything we've been talking about.
>>74543443
airplanes circumnavigate the globe all the fucking time, granted with stops in between, but they do it you mong
>>74548265
who do you think controls the colleges? that is a scam in and of itself. it's going to take hard work to undoctrinate your mind. i believe there's hope for all sleeping people though.
>>74548265
Then you're aware that all of that shit you listed are still considered theories as well.
>>74548196
so explain the radars are being built as high as possible?
if the earth flat. no reason for them to be high
>>74548369
The southern hemisphere in a 2D stereographic projection (which is what that flat circle is) is incredibly distorted and doesn't work with how planes and boats etc travel in reality, or with distances in reality. It literally puts South America and New Zealand much further apart than the US west coast and Europe when flights between them take 12 and 10 hours respectively.
>>74548332
Obviously you can't sail in a perfectly straight line IRL m8, currents and such mean you have to course correct all the time.
Here's another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5HgaVZwvCM
>>74545541
this is the worst bait ever
>>74548563
Increased height increases the diameter of the scanning field.
>>74546862
This is a real pic but this is a rare occurrence and doesn't usually happen even on the clearest days. There is a convoluted scientific explanation for this but it sounds like the same convoluted scientific explanations that flat earthers constantly use so I just go by the common sense of "why can't this been seen every day"
>>74548462
>>74548496
You don't know what a theory means m8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
>A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.
Theories are things with incredibly strong evidence behind them, something unproven is a hypothesis.
Also
>orbital motion is a theory
Yes that's why even India got a hunk of metal to orbit mars. The solutions for orbital motion in a 2-body situation aren't even very hard and are actually pretty elegant.
>>74548574
>here's the longest path with no land
>oh but we can't do it
>>74548602
pic related
>>74548759
Theories are still unproven you fucking idiot.
>pol feels the need to even discuss about this
25 round earth shills in this thread and still the flat pills obviously have the better arguments
>>74543040
>COINTELPRO: The thread
If you believed this shit and wanted to have a discussion you would go to /sci/, if you wanted to role play and talk about ayy lmao's you would go to /x/, if you come to /pol/ then you are only here to confuse and discredit. Flat earth shit has been popping up more frequently and it keeps getting tied to holocaust denial and the trump campaign so I'm gonna go out on limb and say an unholy Hillshill/JIDF alliance is at play. Sage goes in all fields, nigga
>>74548683
not realy. if the earth is flat then 20 feet high radar will scan the same as 40 feet high radar.
>>74548683
But radar uses an electromagnetic wave, they have infinite distance of travel in a straight line. Why do you think the Soviets kept building over the horizon radar arrays using the upper atmosphere to bounce the waves of over the horizon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar
The Russian woodpecker was well known for interrupting radio signals in Europe in the cold war, it was an OTHR system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMVdOc9UbE
>>74548780
that is one of the most stupid quotes I've ever heard.
>>74548919
>>74548892
Also to be able to scan at all of those heights. Until they can make a radar that pings in full 360 degrees.
>>74548799
They're unproven if only because nothing can be objectively proven in the scientific method. They're models of the real world that work until some experiment disproves them. In fact simple newtonian orbits are only an approximation, but a very useful one nonetheless, the perihelion shift of Mercury for example needs general relatively to explain fully. Learn how the scientific method works.
>>74548780
Round Earth went through that stage thousands of years ago m8, just like Evolution and a Heliocentric view on this solar system did it some hundreds of years ago and in between.
I started this thread and I am a normal human bean who wasn't even trolling. I just find the idea of a flat earth ludicrous and conspiracy for the sake of conspiracy.
>>74548780
flat earthers should kill themself desu they are the true definition of degeneracy
>>74548696
>>74548759
i'm glad you are finally admitting that we live on a globe earth is just theory
>>74548043
oh my god
>>74548995
What are you even on about now?
>>74546890
why? Are you saying that thousands of people travel slower than they could have only because this conspiracy has to be maintained? Why would we even care if the earth was round or flat?
>>74548995
What do you mean?
How is being able to scan in several distances elated to height?
>>74549025
The FACT remains that THEORIES are still UNPROVEN. Is this so hard for YOU to accept?
>>74549053
Do you know what theory means in scientific literature? It means the STRONGEST kind of explanation with the strongest evidence.
A hypothesis is something unproven. The flat earth is a hypothesis that even the fucking greeks debunked with a little calculation.
>>74549090
If they are religious fundamentalists and think round earth is related to evolution it may be a reason for the government to lie about it, as not that few of them think the world's governments are ran by Satanists/Jesuits that want to lure us to go to hell.
>>74543040
they claim silly things like jet/plane GPS/controls is rigged to make you fly in a circle.
>>74549110
with so many satellites above our head, you can't say it's unproven. At most you can say the proof is hidden from us.
>>74549110
The fact is that the earth is flat isn't even a scientific theory, it's a hypothesis disproven over 2 millennia ago. Learn the scientific method you illiterate. How electronics works, along with semiconductors (which rely on the theory of quantum mechanics) are still scientific theories, but it doesn't stop your PC from working does it?
>>74547788
That is actually retarded. You should have hung yourself with your umbilical cord when you had the chance you piece of shit.
>>74546862
how dumb are you?
you're not going to see curvature at that height.
>>74549167
It's always amerilards in these threads too
>>74549146
we have satellites to show the sun rotating but yet we can't point them back at earth for 1 FUCKING VIDEO?
NOT 1
>>74549333
Hes not talking about seeing curvature you dumb nigger, he means the buildings should be below the horizon
>>74549167
Are you saying that china is in it as well? what about north korea?
>>74549391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIZchPDijCg
>inb4 some retard claims it's cgi
>>74549233
>not understanding how lenses work...
>>74549252
>disproven 2000 years ago
2000 years ago, people sacrificed goats in order to appease the rain gods for a good harvest. Yeah, I'll take their word on this shit.
>>74549391
You do realise that's a compilation of images taken over a week right? Look at the timestamps.
Just look here, save and gif the images together if you want one.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74549447
Afraid of the truth Pierre?
>>74549333
are you retarded? the skyline should be 1800 feet below the "horizon"
the guy took the photo on the opposite shore of lake michigan
>>74548015
>ironically, man would be LESS relevant if there was some being who made Earth into a petri dish and we are its bacteria.
You're starting off on the wrong foot there, the knowledge of humanity living in a purpose built kingdom in no way implies it's a petri dish, it's the exact opposite. Our global hegemony wants us to believe we're on a speck of filth in some abandoned experiment and have led us away from the truth of our existence.
>>74547868
Physicist here. You're a fucking retard.
>>74549479
So you're saying we should ignore all of mathematics and science invented before the 19th century because the people of the time didn't have identical morals or religious views to us?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference
1.who
2.why
>>74549418
>China
>North Korea
As with the Fundies, we are talking about people who may think that the Vatican created Communism and Free masonry to destroy true Christians and that Heavy Metal was created by Satan to destroy souls.
Them ruling over China and North Korea isn't really weird if you believe in that.
Also, if a flat earth proves the superiority of Christ, I suppose they do it to not lose their Secular power to the masses as they realize Christ is the one and only savior and that the Bible is literally true, so they don't have to be a part of the conspiracy but just do it for their own gains.
>>74548196
Seen it.
He doesn't understand that his equipment is state of the fuck art, and takes into account all of the errors that could occur when being stationed in a different hemisphere.
Stop being cancerous. Do your own research. I could link you to some videos explaining to you with baby language why your wrong, but considering you haven't figured anything out already it might go over your head.
>>74549630
Mathematics can be manipulated to give you whatever results you want.
>linear algebra, discrete mathematics, euclidian geometry
>>74549407
>>74549524
Again, there's no evidence he took it where he said he did, or if he took it on top of a tall building or not.
>>74549474
lol. why can't they show it rotating from a distance? put a fucking camera on the moon at least
>>74549484
yes but there is a satellite that watches the sun explicitly and you can find video of it rotating on youtube.
also quit linking me to gov shill sites
>>74545301
i'm sure you can find someone on the other side of the world to live stream for you on skype or something.
in fact, why haven't flat earthers done this themselves to prove that it's flat?
fucking idiots
>>74549727
wow you're grasping now NASA shill. also there is no 1800 foot building in that area lol
>>74548390
Don't be such a bluepilled faggot mr Yankee.
>>74549723
This, there's that retarded fallacy where 1 + 1 doesn't equal 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVEJj0ndnWg
Algebra is all a construct made to mislead people.
>>74549723
>Mathematics can be manipulated to give you whatever results you want.
Only by changing your starting conditions, which gives the game away anon. You can't start with what Newton did and not derive newton's laws.
Or Einstein having 2 assumptions for the derivation of special relativity, the speed of light being constant (well observed and measured) and that nothing can exceed that speed (also well observed).
What does linear algebra or discrete maths have to do with this?
And spherical geometry we use for distances on the earth's surface is non-euclidean by definition. The metric is different and at a fundamental level there's a different mathematical topology.
>>74549855
Why should I believe some flat earth shill image that only appears on flat earth sites if you refuse to believe any evidence against you?
>>74549898
This guy is debunking that argument you dumb shitposter.
Has anyone thought of the amount of effort that would go into a huge conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat? I can't even imagine the total number of people who would be lying and hiding that fact. People are generally fuck-ups and someone would have spill the beans. Also what posible benifit would lying to convince everyone the earth is round have? If anything every religious institution would be screaming how the earth is flat cause of God and use it as a means of proof of their book and probably running the world. Sadly it's not the dark ages and that's not the reality of the world
>>74549842
this terrifies the shit out of me.
>>74549743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogF6I_arHHQ
>>74549971
He's showing that you can just manipulate algebra to have it suit your needs.
How do flat rather explain timezones?
Like, how can it be sunset on one place and sunrise in another if the earth is flat?
>>74549842
wow i can post sci-fi movies too
>>74549743
Thanks man, i needed someone to laugh at today.
>>74549110
No, they are proven. You are just too stupid to accept new information.
The Theory of Relativity is proven by it's predictive capability in GPS satellites, and Einstein's mathematics (off the top of my head).
Quantum theory is proven by photo electrons being emitted at finite energy levels, or quanta.
The theory of gravity is proven by curvature of light in space, things falling to the ground, and numerous other nuances.
The "theory" of earth being round is proven by Greek mathematics (two sticks in different cities, find the difference in the shadow cast by both, use information to calculate arch length and then radius) which is basic as fuck mathematics by the way, as well as observational evidence of the world not being fucking flat.
Every theory in science is 100% proven. The only way you could despite this is by bringing up a principal of tangible uncertainty, or in laymen's terms, "You can't 100% prove anything and therefore you can't know anything".
No, they are proven, and because you aren't a scientist, I would like you to refrain from making retarded judgement on how we operate.
>>74549743
>yes but there is a satellite that watches the sun explicitly
It's just a compilation of images taken hours apart, the sun spins quite slowly.
And DSCOVR orbits Earth-Sun L1 and has a camera pointed at the earth you mongoloid. Stop ignoring evidence because you dislike it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlu2p3__TfM
>>74550093
>ask for proof
>gets it
>thats fake
just kill yourself
>>74549917
>discrete
What defines the number 1? What if 1 actually represents a set of something?
>linear algebra
You can literally create whatever "spaces" you want and can define whatever laws you want for those spaces.
Just because it is generally accepted doesn't mean it is correct. Have you ever even considered...what if we are wrong? What if we and all of those who came before us were wrong about things? Do you ever wonder why general relativity and quantum mechanics don't mesh? Perhaps we are wrong.
>>74550030
I see NASA's CGI budget is starting to run out, that looks fake as fuck.
>>74549944
what evidence? NASA/hollywood video is not evidence
>>74550093
>show me evidence
>but it's all CGI
Fuck off nigger, you're just assuming you're right, enjoying that cognitive dissonance right now since that doesn't even look similar to real life?
>>74549743
If you won't trust the people that actually gather this information then nothing can persuade you. When someone collects such things without motive to great fabrications, then you can rest easy knowing that it is probably true, that is, unless you aren't a moron and you can find your own proof.
>>74550179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlu2p3__TfM
>>74550177
they're pictures from a russian satellite. put together to create a video.
>>74550174
Mathematics is 100% logically consistent, and it isn't subjective in any way when it is applied to natural phenomena.
Actually study mathematics you dumb shit.
>>74550148
that looks really fake lmao. ms paint tier
>>74550062
No you can't, the people he's debunking made a mistake as they divided by 0 when they can't do so. That's not manipulating algebra, it's being flat out WRONG.
>>74550148
Oh come on, you know what he means, It's 2016 and we don't have live cams from the lunar surface and yet they find funds for all kinds of ridiculous bullshit. I would cite an example but I'm a lazy cunt.
Explain one sane reason that the shape of the earth would be hidden from the general population? Forget all the pic's and random videos, what benifit would come from hiding it? Is there some super secret power gained by knowing the earth is flat that all the world governments are hordeing for themselves we don't know about?
>>74550242
Is this actually real? It looks odd. In fact his video would have to have been filled near an eclipse as well...
If the earth is round then how come we only see the one side of the moon? checkmate
>>74550115
You should go back to /sci/ where you can hear people agree with you.
Theories, by definition, are unproven and should continue to be questioned and explored. If you really want to call yourself a scientist, you would respect this point of view. By completely disregarding anything that is counter to your opinion, you only limit your ability to broaden your own intellectual horizons.
>>74550224
people put together evidence that the holocaust is a proven lie and yet people still believe it happened
so you're no different
>>74550280
By accepting a set of predefined rules, yes. But you can't seem to grasp the point I'm trying to make, so I'm not going to try and enlighten you.
>>74550174
>What defines the number 1?
The cardinality of a set containing the empty set.
>>linear algebra
>You can literally create whatever "spaces" you want and can define whatever laws you want for those spaces.
No, they all follow the axioms of a vector space actually, and have many common properties.
Mathematics is one thing you can objectively prove since it's a logical system built up from simple axioms (currently the ZFC axioms) and is consistent.
> Have you ever even considered...what if we are wrong? What if we and all of those who came before us were wrong about things?
We know our current physical theories are only approximations most likely, they do however make excellent testable predictions and have been validated and are incredibly useful.
It's why we still use Newtonian physics at low speeds even though it's technically been superseded by relativity, it's a good approximation when your velocity is low.
>Do you ever wonder why general relativity and quantum mechanics don't mesh?
Yes, it's like the central question in physics today, I actually understand on a basic level what goes wrong in quantum gravity, the whole thing becomes non-normalisable.
>>74543040
:DDDDDD
no
>>74550362
because the moon's rotation is in sync with it's orbit, so it always faces us.
>>74550300
Uh, actually you could also say that dividing by no actual quantity, results in no change.
If you have and apple and cut it in half, you're dividing it by 2, and end up with 2 slices of the apple.
If you don't cut it, that's equivalent to dividing it by 0, you are not dividing it at all. It remains the same.
>>74550382
Oh, don't worry, we are more than willing to accept that theories can be challenged, but because the ones I mentioned are intertwined with a solid view of reality, they could only feasibly be wrong on a technicality.
However, the models that they are used to explain reality and then predict reality are 100%, as proven by the fact that they work. Yes, they could be wrong in some ways. For example, we don't call classical physics bullshit because it only describes accurately phenomena travelling at a tiny fraction of the speed of light. Newtonian physics predicts what it can predict, and relativity does the rest.
>>74550531
But what about the space station and satellites, why don't they ever capture images of the far side of the moon from orbit?
>>74550361
Yes, DSCOVR sits near Earth-Sun L1 point, so is in a good position to see things like this, however it's slightly offset so it's not perfectly in line with the sun, that may not have been an actual eclipse due to the moon's inclination to the ecliptic.
See the diagram on the left here.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74550403
The difference is that the earth is flat. Analyse a shill source properly and you will find that they are consistent, and not in fact shill sources.
Just look up a YouTube video from someone reltively popular who goes against your views, and observe how 100% solid their information is.
Of course, if you can find a scientist making a video on the topic, it's better, but even a laymen probably has a better understanding of these things than you.
>>74550531
PURE COINCIDENCE
>>74550508
>No, they all follow the axioms of a vector space actually, and have many common properties.
But you can create the set of axioms that define a vector space. I.E. you can manipulate the "math" to do whatever you need to do. My point proven yet again...
>>74550563
>relativity does the rest
Until someone discovers something greater, and then someone else discovers something greater still...
>>74550673
Jesus fuck. I didn't even know they had satellites up there. I'll digest this more later, thanks for that.
>>74549743
>lol. why can't they show it rotating from a distance? put a fucking camera on the moon at least
Why would anyone bother with that just to disapprove a group of people that got even less followers than creationists do?
>>74550322
Because a live cam from lunar surface would be expensive and add nothing scientifically. It costs tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for each kg you send into orbit.
>>74550286
>I'm just gonna ignore evidence I dislike.
Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvw56LqUJ4
>>74550689
i hope you wake from your sleep
>>74548368
Nah. They feed on our fears, they are inter dimensional, and thats why we see light anomalies. They create the situations on earth to feed off our fear energy we make
>>74543040
They never leave their basements
>>74549842
the shadows are suspicious
>>74550793
why do we do anything?
>>74550820
NASA videos are obviously the work of lucas studios ILM but go ahead keep posting them as "scientific evidence"
>>74550750
Changing the axioms would actually give you something with a different meaning. It would also change the equation. So yeah, the information isn't distorted. One equation can only give you one result on the Cartesian plane, no exceptions.
I demand mathematical proof that one equation can mean several things on the plan, and how changing axioms changes the shape of the line without changing the equation.
>>74543040
that's not flat
>>74550670
The moon is over 200k miles away from earth.
The space station is between 200-300 miles away.
>>74550754
Don't get too excited over NASA animations Bruce.
>>74543040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfVtaZbuIQ
I'll just leave this here.
>>74550824
I'm not asleep. I happen to know for a fact, from experience as a physicist, who has worked with astronomers as well, that the earth is not at all flat.
>>74550960
Yeah but they not viewing from a fixed point on earth.
>>74550721
No, tidal locking between two bodies of similar enough size like earth/moon is inevitable. The moon slowly leeches angular momentum from the earth (slowing its spin) and so increasing its orbital period until it matches the length of the lunar "day", this point is then a stable equilibrium so the moon stays like that. 4 billion years and two bodies like the earth and moon and it's almost inevitable that happens.
>>74550972
Look, they have never lied before, so until I have a closer look at it, I have no reason to think they are lying now.
>>74550754
'Satellites' is a pretty cool word for describing a camera that rotates, in the depths of a Hollywood recording studio, around a detailed model of their precious spherical Earth.
>>74550925
Why?
>>74550940
Because it won't be a gigantic waste of money?
>>74550750
>But you can create the set of axioms that define a vector space. I.E. you can manipulate the "math" to do whatever you need to do
It's only useful because the axioms are what they are, changing them would give you junk.
I won't even go into how vector spaces are special cases of modules over a field instead of a general ring :^)
>>74543629
>thinking there can be any way to convince flat earthers they're wrong
If they can look at endless evidence of a round earth and still ignore it they won't listen for anything.
>>74550549
>fuck the rules of maths when it's convenient
It's pretty much accepted worldwide that you can't divide by zero. Get the fuck out of here before I fly down to Auckland and slap that extra chromosome out of you.
>>74551003
is it fact that 6 million jews died in the holocaust too?
>>74551048
that's ridiculous. there's nothing on the moon for it to "lock" on one side. it would just have a really slow rotation if earth really were a globe
>>74551100
Except that isn't what happens. You can even see some of them in the night sky.
>>74551035
Earth and moon to scale.
LEO is 1% of the distance between earth and moon, of course they don't see the far side.
No human had until Luna 3 sent us images and then the apollo astronauts orbited the moon.
>>74551165
Once you break the conditioning you will be physically sick for days.
>>74551035
Remember the moon is much farther away than in my shitty drawing.
The space station is so close to earth and the moon is so far from earth, that being in the space station doesn't really change what you can see. You may as well still be on the ground looking at the moon.
>>74551263
>is it fact that 6 million jews died in the holocaust too?
No.
>>74551104
and governments don't waste money on stupid shit?
and a camera on the moon wouldn't fall into the stupid shit category.
get back to your cuck shed. mohammed doesn't like you in your wife's house
>>74550945
Any non-linear transformation. It also depends on the dimension of the defined space.
The point is not to argue what you learned in college and can regurgitate on an image board, but to illustrate that mathematics, at its core, is not objective.
>>74550754
Well DSCOVR is pretty recent, it's put there since it always sees the sunny side of the earth that way, it's a long term climate and earth observatory. It's in a strange orbit about where the earth and sun have equal and opposite gravitational fields.
>>74551263
For the record, hundreds of thousands of Americans died, and millions of Russians died in WW2 also. At least they did so fighting. The Jews just allowed themselves to be treated like fucking cattle.
>>74551353
Here, have a free (You)
>>74551321
you know, we are always in the process of "waking up"
the light will shine onto others areas as you age
you will look back and laugh at how naive you were
>>74551359
Fucking prove it. These words are not meaningful mathematically.
Also don't get carried away. An equation that describes a phenomena is as objective as the phenomena. It only falls apart when the phenomena isn't objective.
>>74551268
Those are called stars, m8.
>>74550940
>NASA budget slashed hugely after moon landings
>somehow the supposed CGI got better
Ok
>>74551263
>that's ridiculous. there's nothing on the moon for it to "lock" on one side
It's a simple process due to tidal forces (and not sea tides like you're thinking) between the earth and moon due to gravity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking
>>74551436
so 6 million jews died during WWII?
i just wanna know what kind of moron i'm dealing with here
>>74545676
It's a bit late I know, but I want to let you know i appreciate that reference
>>74551424
That's fucking impressive. Not that incredible though, the calculations behind it would have been simple enough, but I never once thought something like that could happen.
>>74551476
I'm not naive. I know magnitudes more about these things than you do for sure.
>>74551514
Stars don't shoot across the sky and flash constantly at equal intervals, actually.
>>74551524
wow. so you also believe man walked on the moon?
>tidal forces
the water is on the north and south poles of the moon. so it would lock onto those if anything
>>74543040
Jesus Since no one seemed to answer it, the earth is a flat circle. So if you are traveling east or west you are traveling perpendicular to the central north pole i.e. a circle
>>74551755
>>tidal forces
>the water is on the north and south poles of the moon. so it would lock onto those if anything
You have got to be fucking baiting me, right?
>>74551281
The supposed moon rotates at a known constant rate as does the earth, we can't change that. We can however put into leo a craft that could capture a lunar rotation as the said craft would be independent of the Earth's rotation.
>>74551755
... The water is frozen.... How old are you? This is too much... You are giving me cancer.
>>74549840
They probably think The moon is a projection and the sun something else
>>74551755
>the water is on the north and south poles of the moon. so it would lock onto those if anything
TOP KEK
>>74551868
>The supposed moon rotates at a known constant rate as does the earth, we can't change that. We can however put into leo a craft that could capture a lunar rotation as the said craft would be independent of the Earth's rotation.
No, I have no idea what you're on about. The craft in LEO would just see the moon many times a day as they orbit many times a day.
Tidal locking works like the left in gif related.
>>74551831
nice north pole retard
>>74551755
Also
>Kubrick at NASA
>MUST BE DOING SOMETHING SUPER SECRET GUYS!
Or, you could not be a fruitloop, and realize that they were using cameras during the moon landing, and are not themselves cinematographers.
>>74551755
That's a dank������ pic right there good shit wow ������good shit so dank����
>>74550115
>things falling to the ground, and numerous other nuances
KEK
>>74551957
(you're a faggot)
>>74551960
>Kubrick at NASA
>I don't know why he's there but I know why he isn't!
>>74551831
There is a beautiful video debunking this actually. It's either called "flat out wrong wrong" or "Testing Geo centrism"
Check it out.
>>74543040
Tha5s clearly a cone.
I'm a Germanwings pilot. It is true that the erath is flat for I have seen it with my own eyes.
But I can't live with this lie anymore. The Illuminati told me to propagate the round earth theory.
Literally every single pilot on this flat earth is in on the conspiracy.
I feel god's wrath embracing me for spreading satanic Jewish lies. I hope I can redeem myself by posting the truth here.
***Disclaimer***
visiting http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
you will notice that they actually believe that every pilot is in on the conspiracy.
They are so fucking retarded I'm wondering if it is just satire.
>>74551953
You can change an objects orbital velocity though. They have motors on em.
>>74551986
What? Want me to go into detail with the nuances? I mean, I don't know them off hand, but I've probably got a book on it somewhere.
>>74552015
I have no idea why he is there, but I don't assume that it is a conspiracy theory.
>>74552053
>You can change an objects orbital velocity though. They have motors on em.
Yeah and it changes your altitude anon. Speeding up in LEO puts you into an elliptical orbit. Go read up on orbital motion.
>>74552042
A pilot wouldn't be high enough at any stage to notice the curvature of the earth.
>>74543129
>Can't tell if reading comprehension or just typical Australian shit posting
Who the hell do you think you are? Who the hell do you think you are? You any kind of artist? Anybody know who you are? This is one of the most important places in all of North America. Who are you? Who are you! You miserable presumptuous no-talent. You're no artist. An artist respects the silence that serves the foundation of creativity. You obviously don't have the talent. You don't have enough respect for yourself or other people or what it is to express yourself. And music really is a form of creativity. And I'm an NYU film school graduate, sucka, in the School of Visual Arts, and The Academy of Art University in San Francisco. You suck, you're a no-talent. If you really had talent, go practice and to get yourself a gig instead of ruining the end of the day for everybody down here. You're a disgrace. You're everything that has gone wrong in this world. You're a self-consumed, no-talent, mediocre piece of shit. And I've earned my right to say it, ok? In 1975, I walked Bob Dylan up on stage. I knew the Grateful Dead since 1966. Who the fuck are you? You nothing! You nothing. You are nothing. You will never be anything, never. How dare you. How dare you. You miserable, mediocre nothing. Shame on you. I'm trained classically, I'm trained contemporaneously, and you suck.
>>74544683
People are so fucking crazy.
>>74552190
Flight paths would work differently on a flat earth though
>>74552112
Oh no I agree completely. I just found the phraseology hilarious. Things falling to the ground==nuance.
>>74551860
you said tidal forces tidal meaning water. so why would the earth lock the moon onto 1 side? the water on the moon is on the poles
>>74552166
Now now lets not be silly, imagine the star ship enterprise for example, could it not chose it's orbital speed to witness a lunar rotation? It does this by propulsion, the same propulsion that's possible now.
>>74552254
Oh, yeah. It's hard not to say something condescending in this context.
>>74548799
unproven as "we can't prove the axiom, but we still can observe a lot of the incomes predicted by the theory" not as "I can't prove or disprove anything lying spaghetti monster Cartesian daemon" style
>>74551880
so why does it lock the moon onto 1 random side? the moon should be rotating on its own axis if we were on a globe
>>74550549
>If you don't cut it, that's equivalent to dividing it by 0
That's dividing by 1
>>74552031
No. It's wrong.
>>74543040
I kinda like that theory. Never thought about it before. I don't think it is true, much more likely that the earth is round.... however, it is possible that everyone has been tricking me since I was born and you are the only one who is honest enough to give me a clue to reality.
Or flat-earth people are fags. One or the other. Dunno which. If I fly up into space in a rocket, and see a big round object out the window, it could be alien faggots controlling my brain and screwing with images, or the windows could be high-tech tv stuff, or maybe I've been dead all along and this is just a dream. It's all possible, mang. For all I know you are my penis' alter ego confusing me right now.
>>74552232
Oh, okay, I see what you are saying. Every pilot travelling any significant distance would indeed need to be in on it in that case.
>>74552267
>you said tidal forces tidal meaning water
Please tell me you're baiting me, I can't believe someone this retarded understands how to operate a computer
>(and not sea tides like you're thinking)
>(and not sea tides like you're thinking)
>(and not sea tides like you're thinking)
>>74552333
Oh fuck I can't believe I got baited for so long.
>>74551960
i can believe this. but did man walk on the moon?
>>74549391
>someone show a movie of the earth rotating
>"but it's fake!"
What do you expect?
>>74552348
ON a globe? No, it is tidal locked. It could have been tidal locked on any side, but it happened to "land" on that one. These is no fifth force making planets rotate. If their rational kinetic energy is shaped away, in this case, but the earth, then it will stop rotating.
>>74552137
You assume instead that it is not a conspiracy which is just as bad. Skepticism is to discovery of the truth as gullibility is to discovery of the truth. Do you understand what I'm telling you?
"He who gives an answer before he hears, It is folly and shame to him. " Proverbs 18:13
>>74551965
Wut
>>74552348
>the moon should be rotating on its own axis
It does. It's rotation has the same time period as its orbit though (one lunar month), so one side always faces us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDNDz_VP3PE
>>74547102
so all those other planets we've observed in the universe are spherical (or just "fake") but earth is the special snowflake that everything revolves around
yep sounds like an idea millennials can get behind
>>74552337
I'm currently studying Mech. Eng. so I understand you completely, and I read flat-earth threads for the lulz. You won this thread.
>>74552369
Um...
>4chan is a site for persons over the age of 18
>>74552398
do you see how ridiculous tidal locking theory is?
>earth locks 1 side of the moon HURR
>>74552419
I'd say so. I don't act on any assumptions that we did, so I haven't really delved into it. I do, however, act on assumptions of the earth being round when I teach people orbital mechanics.
>>74549977
I don't even understand the purpose of hiding that the earth is flat...
>>74547267
oh, well obviously there's no curvature because it's over water; the surface of the water would naturally be flat. you think water curves?
>>74552520
I'm 24. “Truly I tell you, He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. " - Jesus
>>74552531
You can make any theory look stupid if you completely remove all the scientific evidence and rationale behind it.
Doesn't make reality any less real.
>>74552478
Yes, I get what you are saying. Let it be known that I assume nothing either way. There is no information to be gained beneath the surface in that image, period, regardless of what i have implied, end of story.
>>74552475
cool theory bro. i'm still not convinced. tidal locking theory is just more NASA propaganda
>>74552603
I don't remember that part of the bible.
>>74552492
how is it spinning in its own indepenent axis if it is tidal locked? you contradict yourself
>>74552531
>>earth locks 1 side of the moon HURR
You have no idea what you're on about do you?
The side that faces us is arbitrary and happened by chance. But over a billion years the earth's gravity exerted a torque on the moon slowing its rotation to match its orbital period, hence we only see the same side of it.
Look to the horizon in the sea
You will se curvature at the end
The earth is not flat ;)
>>74552419
The Soviets followed Apollo 11 to the moon, tracking it all the way. They would have called bullshit at any funny business.
So either NASA sent the spacecraft unmanned and faked the footage (why would they need to if they were going anyway unmanned?) or it happened.
>>74552573
>man walked on moon
what is Van Allen radiation belt for 500 alex
Just a general question, how many of your flat earthers believe in evolution?
>>74552641
>tidal locking theory is just more NASA propaganda
But you can literally observe it. We see the same side of the moon, ergo it is tidally locked to the earth.
>>74552586
exactly my point. we live on a flat earth with no curvature
>>74552641
No, it is perfectly reasonable. It is a solid extrapolation from very basic orbital mechanics.
http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath114/kmath114.htm
You don't need to understand the intricacies, all you need to know is that gravity, working as we know it does, facilitates slingshot maneuvers. That energy is taken from the body that has been used for the slingshot.
This concept is similar to what happened in this case, but only in terms of the fact that energy is taken from the "host" body.
Tidal locking is a little different to that.
It is the best theory to describe it. Know, we don't "know" that this is why his happened, but it is a 100% solid explanation.
>>74543040
The amount of stupidity surrounding this belief is very sad. And makes me lose any faith I have remaining in mankind. A lot of these people tend to be highly religious too. Which is another sad practice.
If only all of these idiots could of been aborted, we'd be so much more technologically advanced as a species than we are currently. I hope one day we're able to do a test to measure an unborn child's potential intelligence, and if they don't pass a certain threshold they are aborted.
Into the trash they go. Into the trash with your flat earth theory bullshit. Fuck you, there is no god. Please kill yourselves and rid the world of your cancerous ways.
>>74552687
>how is it spinning in its own indepenent axis if it is tidal locked? you contradict yourself
Tidal locking does not mean it doesn't spin you braindead mongoloid faggot.
It means it spins at the same rate as it rotates, so the same side of the moon faces us all the time.
Imagine if the earth rotated once per month, the moon would not move in the sky and the earth would be tidally locked to the moon, showing one side of the earth only to observers on the moon.
>>74552641
Yeah no. Develop the equations of motion for a non-point-mass in orbit and you'll find that the minimum energy is obtained when gravitational locking occurs. Pic related, if you can read past the sand runes. 1/2.
>>74552015
He could have been consulting them for
2001, space odyssey. How the fuck do we know.
>>74552763
There are places on the moon in which the radiation is significantly less. For a small amount of time a belt between the dark and light side are of suitable temperatures.
Again, you really need to learn your nuance mate. You obvious don't know the whole story.
Scientists know about the van allen belt, we get that it fucking exits. This is no grand secret you have uncovered. Professionals that came from similar walks of life to you have known of this and still believe in the moo landing, simply because there is in fact a time and place on the moon that is safe.
>>74552931
2/2
>>74552820
He was baiting... Of course water can curve is something is pulling down on it from all angles. It isn't rigid.
>>74552688
or so the theory goes...
>The Soviets followed Apollo 11 to the moon, tracking it all the way
i call bullshit on that. also JFK promised man on the moon before the end of the 60s. obviously our technology couldn't accomodate this which is why they hired the best film director to fake it.
>>74552820
You're dumb.
>>74552763
Not enough to harm you on a 3 day trip to moon where you spend at most a day in them
>>74553012
>I call bullshit
>Obviously
>or so the theory goes
You have no clue. You make these statements without any evidence. You completely dismiss that which you do not understand.
>>74552842
the earth and moon are barely 6 billion years old. there's no way the kinectic rotation of the moon would have stopped so soon
>>74551514
>he's never looked up at night and seen a pulsing red light go by
you can even see the ISS, hell you can track it online and have your telescope ready
>>74553050
Come of it Nigel, they had one single black shuttle astronaut and when his shuttle flew to the inner boundary of the belts he chimped out over the smell of KFC emanating from his crew mates.
Actually a true story only slightly embellished.
>>74553012
>i call bullshit on that.
Why would the soviets allow you to fake it during the height of the cold war? When they could easily tell a fake? At the time apollo 11 was on the moon they crashed an attempted unmanned probe by accident elsewhere even. You have no evidence and are just spouting crap like
>obviously
>or so the theory goes
You're ignoring anything you dislike and have no idea what you're talking about 99% of the time.
The soviets even tested their own moon lander in orbit, but they never got their Saturn V equivalent, the N1 rocket, to fly without it blowing up and the programme got cancelled in favour of space stations.
>>74553012
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
>>74553146
Okay. Took me a while, but it is obvious you are baiting now.
>>74553146
>there's no way the kinectic rotation of the moon would have stopped so soon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking#Timescale
I don't think you realise how long a billion years is.
>>74552953
simple calculators today have more power than the lunar lander and you expect me to believe this got man on the moon?
just take a look at it it's made of tinfoil lmao
>>74553340
Think about it. What complex maths are needed to make the trip?
I'm done. Thanks for wasting my time.
what would happen if a sun made of sun and a sun made of ice collided
>>74553340
This thing was launched from earth and withstood all those g-forces as well.
>>74553340
No need for aerodynamic shaping in a vacuum, also the foil is for heat reflection
>>74550549
You know that division isn't what you want it to be.
It has a definition, it's related to multiplication and inverse. This is exactly what algebra is. Having basic concepts, not arithmetical, and expressing a lot of common mathematical constructions according to this theory.
Then it outputs a result for a given set of arguments, according to this definition. It could also have forbidden inputs. But it has a semantic you can't change.
If you modify that, like you add a rule to change a resulting value, it's not the same operation. It's not division, it's "division". Do you understand that?
im baiting lol. im tired now though
thought i should let you know
the lesson is never respond to these flat earth threads
>>74553712
moon landing is fake tho
>>74549526
A diamond in a sea of piss is more worth than the sea of piss. The largeness of the universe doesn't relativize the worth of our planet.
>>74553761
no one believes flat earth shit retard
>>74553761
thanks for tidal locking info though never knew the reason behind it
>>74553849
You'd be supersized, retard.
>>74554065
Wow.... that pun is actually really shit. Pay no mind.
>>74552657
Google bible + like children
Jesus said it maybe 3 times that you have to be exactly like children or you won't get into the kingdom of heaven.
>>74552933
If you don't know, don't speak.
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