Do Trannies have a mental illness or is it just natural to want to switch genders? Possibly some people are just born with different minds in the wrong bodies. While we are at it what is with gays, are they born gay or what? And how does an 8 year old boy know if he wants to take it in the pooper before puberty?
>>74509589
>someone wanting to slice their cock off
>not mentally ill
pick only one
ya
>>74509589
it is a mental illness, but that's not to say they shouldn't receive treatment and respect
now gimme that sauce
>>74509707
DAd
>>74509589
It's like thinking you are ugly because your nose is too big, so you resort to plastic surgery, even though changes here are much more invasive. It's definitely unhealthy, though, as it is underlined by a rejection of what one is. Whether it is a mental illness or not should depend on the degree of rejection of oneself.
>>74509707
mmm daddy
>>74509589
It is literally an illness as defined by ICD-10 CM and DSM-5.
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness, yes. However. The treatment is wrong. Instead of surgery its should be death.
nah, they are totally mentally stable
>>74509744
but is giving into their delusions really the treatment they need ?
>>74509589
obviously yes,
It is in the Body Dysmorphic family of mental disorders
there are people that think they should be quadriplegic, we dont paralyze them as treatment.
This transgender shit is absurd.
>>74509997
nothing wrong with their brain at all
>>74509589
It's a mental illness.
When a bi polar cuts themselves everyone recognises they are crazy. When a dude cuts his dick off it "perfectly normal"
>>74509589
Narcissistic disorder like it always was, like homosexuality is-- particularly among otherwise physically normal males.
>>74509589
/pol/ likes to talk about redpills, but when it comes to the whole "transgender" issue, the vast majority of posters here don't have a clue.
To understand the disease, we have to understand the cause: John Fucking Money
Up until John Money came along, gender had always had its meaning in a purely linguistic sense
>gender is a specific form of noun-class system in which the division of noun classes forms an agreement system with another aspect of the language, such as adjectives, articles, pronouns, or verbs
Money coined the contemporary usage of the term “gender” in 1955. It since took off as a concept, and here's an example of where we are now:
>debate continues as to what extent gender and its roles are socially constructed (i.e. non-biologically influenced), and to what extent "socially constructed" may be considered synonymous with "arbitrary" or "malleable". Therefore, a concise authoritative definition of gender roles or gender itself is elusive.
Wow, it's fucking nothing. Gender cannot be defined because "Gender identity" is a collectivist rebranding of "individual identity." Money more or less admits as much in a 1957 paper
>“The salient variable in the establishment of a person’s gender role and orientation is neither hereditary nor environmental, in any purist sense of those terms, but is his own decipherment and interpretation of a plurality of signs, some of which may be considered hereditary or constitutional, others environmental”
Orwell warned us about this shit. Every single time you use the word gender as dichotomous with objective, real, biological sex, you are enabling the continued takeover of our language; engaging in textbook doublespeak.
This post doesn't even cover the case of David Reimer, one of the first (suicide) victims of Money's "Gender ideology" that he tried to cover-up for 30 years. only being exposed in 1997.
Every time you see the word gender, I want you to think of John Fucking Money.
>>74509589
Child sexual abuse is the source of all of it.
Getting an organ of your body cut off voluntarily.
Yes its an illness
>>74510023
>>74509997
not a fan of transnigs but any stroll over to people of walmart shows there are far more unstable normal people
>>74509959
Gender identity disorders are not genetic (unless one has some sort of endocrine disorder and is clearly a borderline case). Most of them are not inborn but are psychological malfunctions at ego-formation just before toddlerhood and so are too deep-seated to fix with therapy..
It is a MORAL problem, nothing more.
>>74509707
daddy
>>74510023
those asians
Well one thing is for certain, as long as we can establish that it's a mental illness we can stop it.
And what technology does it appear that we need to make this possible?
Mind Control?
What kind of society you want senpai? Just kike my shit up!
>>74509997
>other gooks and chinks taking pictures
I cringe every damn time when peopl do that. Fucoking idiots.
can we just auto-ban trans-related threads?
>>74510473
You have a hide feature in your client.
>>74509589
Working in healthcare I've seen some tranies and it seems like their twisted mindsets go beyond being the opposite gender. Most of them were extremely religious and extremely self centered. They were also extremely rude to people or extremely sensible. Some years ago, a tranny who was recovering from a car crash stabbed another patient over him sneezing too much. Of course people in hospitals are all in a very sensible mindset but trannies sure have a lot going on in their heads.
>>74509589
Lemme get some sauce on this shit.
>>74510372
>"should we call police?"
>"i dont know if it against raw."
>"take more pictura"
>>74509589
sauce pls
In the future we are going to have to start issuing more than one license to people with split personality disorders and they will be celebrated.
>>74509589
sauce?
>>74510023
Won't pulling shit like that get you executed in China? Or is that Canada?
>>74509589
What is this picture even from?
>>74510136
I didnt understand what was the point you were trying to subtely make in this post
>>74510565
I'm pretty sure the problem with crazy motherfuckers running around stabbing other patients is just a Mexico thing.
>>74509589
S A U C E
>>74509959
SWEDEN NO!!!
>>74509589
Why is the body wrong and not the mind? We know more about biology and the body than about the mind.
>>74509589
Why do people blow up transgenderism when they make up less than 3% of the USA's population? Probably even less because this 3% applies to all lgbt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States
>>74510136
Informative post? The fuck?
Thanks though
>>74509589
Gender dysphoria is as much as a mental illness as those people who believe they are cats, dragons, or absolutely want to become blind or wheelchair bound.
>>74509744
They should receive treatment, a real treatment to cure their brains, not to give them hormones and butcher their bodies.
>>74509589
source?
>>74510706
I can only assume it's:
>Stop saying "gender" and trannies will disappear.
>>74510136
TL;DR tbqh
>>74510776
>>74510702
>>74510657
>>74510629
>>74509744
Sorry goys, I guess it was from some reddit thread originally and the thread is gone. I had her name once but forgot. JUST
>>74509589
Take a look at it like this and see if it is a mental illness:
Jim has a body type that has always been a bit on the lean side. He's never bulked up and he's just sort of stuck to his lean frame. He is not ashamed of it nor does it depress him or cause him anxiety. He does, however, have a penchant to drift towards cooking and cleaning, and caretaking as a career.
Jim would be seen, at most, as an effeminate male. He shows interests in what women commonly do. He does not express interest or has any qualms about it, nor does he express a need to have a vagina or tits.
Jane is the polar opposite. She is a tall female, stocky, and enjoys playing sports and hunting. She even has a workshop in which she creates furniture and works on cars. She is considered a masculine female, or tomboy. She is comfortable with this and doesn't care about looking "girly" nor does she want a dick or muscles.
This destroys the idea that transgenders are normal people because they are not. Jim and Jane above are normal people who partake in activities that are typically seen in other genders, sure, but they do not have a desire to change their bodies and harm themselves in anyway to achieve "happiness".
Now if Jim or Jane wanted tits and wear skirts and dresses out in public, or wanted Schwarzenegger in his prime muscles and a beard, respectively, and it affected their ability to have a normal life or ended up depressing them to the point of thinking about suicide they would be crazy as all fuck and putting them on HRT and puberty blockers if they are under 18 is fucking bullshit. They need counseling.
>>74510730
That one was in the Netherlands
There are not many trannies in Mexico
>>74510998
>I had her name once but forgot
KILL YOURSELF
>>74509589
OF COURSE IT IS!!!!
TRY CUTTING YOUR ARM WITH A RAZOR!
OH! EXHIBITING SELF MUTILATION.
ASK A DOCTOR TO CUT OFF YOUR JOHNSON AND MAKE A HOLE IN IT'S PLACE
>oh so brave!!!!
FUCK YOU SJW, FUCK YOU MODERN WORLD AND MOST OF ALL
FUCK YOU FOR TROLLING WITH SUCH DEGENERATE QUESTIONS.
>>74510998
>her
so was it a trap or not?
>>74509589
it's more objective to believe in God than believe in a woman trapped in a man's body...
If I believe that I'm superman people will consider me insane, crazy... but for some strange reason if I say that I'm a woman despite my man body it's right, despite biology says all the opposite thing
>>74510896
We know it's a mental illness.
The fact that there is no available treatment to make them adhere to your specific vision of reality is not a conspiracy, unless you think that nobody giving a damn what you think is a suitable "treatment" is a Jewish conspiracy.
>>74509589
SAUCE
A
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C
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>>74509589
Sauce?
>>74510136
Good job man, bringing most of that together.
I actually disagree with you a little. What we now call extra genders have existed for millenia, he didn't really invent them. He did popularize the notion and misuse it quite avidly however.
In a normal, healthy human society you do have a minority of individuals who aren't comfortable with their traditional roles. In the circumpolar shamanistic tradition, for instance, shamans self-selected by wearing dresses and doing female work, starting around 10-12 years old. If they stuck with it, they were thought of as third-sex, and were exempted from the expectation of a boy to grow up to be a hunter and a father. This allowed them time and space to do other things.
SJWs wont be satisfied with just letting the handful of people that really want to do this without prompting live in peace, however. They're busy trying to convince as many people as possible to do it, and attacking anyone that chooses otherwise. They're dangerously insane.
Also 'gender reassignment surgery' is a joke. It's butchery. Maybe one day medicine will be able to do reassign gender but right now all they can do is mutilate people and that shit is wrong.
>>74509589
>mental
learn2science
>>74510998
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB
SAGE
>>74509589
I believe it is s mental illness however I too am mentally ill so gas us all its better for the normies tbqh
>>74510998
Looks a lot like Lana Rain. Not a trap though
Transgenderism is a form of homophilia. Homophilia is caused by an androgen disorder.
The proper medical treatment for this disease is androgen medication for males and anti-androgen medication for females.
>>74510998
I think we can fix the whole pronoun thing if we make it clear that pronouns should refer to biological sex and the appearance associated with biological sex, and not what is in someone's head, which you can't possibly know
>>74511361
Nah, not Lana Rain, she haves different facial features
>>74511384
>Homophilia is caused by an androgen disorder.
Is it?
>The proper medical treatment for this disease is androgen medication for males and anti-androgen medication for females.
Are there any cases where this has worked
>>74511342
>>74511292
>>74511192
>>74511190
Guys, this anon >>74511361
is right, it is Lana Rain. She is a cam whore
http://lanarain.com/
Though I haven't found where the image is originally from
>>74511450
Probably, but you would be called a bigot
>>74511485
it looks nothing like her
Think for a second what someone believes when they think they were born in the wrong body. It doesn't make sense.
You can order food and get the WRONG order, but your life isn't an order somebody makes. You're either born male or female, it's out of anyone's hands.
It's not like someone made a mistake deciding your gender, you're YOU. You can't be born as a wrong thing because you are the thing you're born as.
>>74511384
I'm transgendered, and I think gays are obnoxious.
In fact, for all intents and purposes I'm a heterosexual (biological) male.
But that doesn't mean I'm not sympathetic to the fact that most people shit on gay people.
>>74511485
But Lana Rain doesn't hace a femenine dick :'^(
>>74509589
It is a hormonal imbalance. Our bodies produce t and e at different levels throughout our lives, the bodies of children are just figuring it out. Little boys might have more e than t at some point and feel girly. Some girls may have more t than e and feel boyish. Its normal. What isn't normal is having a society that accepts an 8 year olds declaration of sexuality or parents who encourage deviation from the birth gender. Long term hormonal imbalance can damage the brain, resulting in real sexual identity disorder that gender reassignment is used to stave off suicide. It always fails though, because all that does is mutilate the body and eventually the trannies realize they are not actually the opposite sex.
>>74509707
dad?
>>74511485
>no benis
dropped
>>74511561
Well she wears wigs and shit all the time so. I didn't think it looked like her either but I am pretty sure it is her, I had the link to one of her sites on my history when I looked up her name so that is the name I got before from the site I got the image on
>>74511594
Do you have a femenine dick? ;^)
>>74509589
They aren't mutually exclusive? Mental illnesses are natural mutations.
i'm just gonna leave this here
>>74511571
The body you're in doesn't determine the things you want to do with it.
You have absurd expectations of people who aren't as vulnerable to self-esteem issues about "manhood" as you are.
>>74511594
Gay people are so Aggressive
>>74510998
>>74509589
Yes. Their brains are malfunctioning.
>>74509589
>Possibly some people are just born with different minds in the wrong bodies
thats a meme
wanting to be an other gender is just a fetish
mutilating your organs tho is insane or simply retarded
who wants a non functional hole in their body?
>While we are at it what is with gays, are they born gay or what?
no, thats also a fetish
> And how does an 8 year old boy know if he wants to take it in the pooper before puberty?
he doesnt
>>74511705
Not really.
The majority of people don't even know because I keep that shit at home. My wife is the only one who knows.
>>74511106
Most trannies don't get SRS to begin with, either by choice or it costs too much or its shit.
They just take hormones. Why does genital mutilation get brought up all the time but never the actual transition procedure approved by doctors? Kids don't get srs either
>>74511645
>It is a hormonal imbalance.
Not really. they do blood tests before administrating hormones and there's no uniform "wow you have high E so you must be a tranny". No correlation.
>>74509589
Of course
>>74511730
>fucking a male up the butt is mentally ill because they poop from there
>fucking a female up the butt is perfectly fine
This is what /pol/ actually believes.
I don't know, you tell me.
http://vidmax.com/video/140414-The-SJW-movement-summed-up-in-one-Libtarded-mess-of-a-video
>>74511756
No they're not,at least not here,the fags here are all sissies
>>74510998
Go back to reddi t.
>>74511361
That is correct (see pic)
>>74511445
Wrong.
pretty sure that 'go back to reddi t' is now recognized as spam
send help moot
>>74511823
So you are just a crossdresser?
>>74509589
Its a mental illness
Thinking of them as sex objects isn't though, because that's what they are, almost like a fantasy ( pictures, because in person its 100% different, shoulders, pheromone, mouth, elbows, jaw, etc. )
That's why you don't even see them in public that much, because they don't even like to be seen with in public, people avoid them like the plague, and if they were in a relationship, it stays in the bedroom, even ask a tranny, it must be hell. Online you're semi-accepted, and with hugbox websites there are communities that make them feel like they are making the right decisions, its hilarious in some sense.
>>74511979
I didn't get the photo from reddit fag, I got it from here and the image search traced to Reddit
>>74511051
except normal tomboy gets thrown out of restroom and feminine man gets dragged by a truck.
i dont understand your retarded argument
>"because x and y exist, z should not"
lmao
>>74511979
Welp time to kill myself, it was fun to shitpost
Btw Lana Rain is the only female chaturbater I am suscribed to, she is almost perfect
>>74510998
>"No man ever searches for the same sauce twice, for it's not the same sauce and he's not the same man."
-Heraclitus
>>74511947
Yeah that is true, probably I should have said they are more 'sassy'
>>74511979
Where's the bump in the panties
>>74511939
take this down immediately. I can't take it any more.
>>74511863
>They just take hormones!
So you are saying that trannies are just drug addicted pansies who are currently being catered to because SJWs demand they do?
Tell me, faggot, why are 75% of trannies male to female? IF this was a natural thing shoudln't it be more 50-50?
>>74509589
>Step 1 give kids cartoons
>Step 2 push furries and crossdressing in cartoons
>Step 3 push anime
>Step 4 push erotic anime, ahegao
>Step 5 retardation is successfully fetishized, goy population is ready for real furries/real trannies
Most normies aren't on board with fucking animals or trannies, they just ignore them or think they're weird. It's the neckbeards who become obsessed with furry, mlp, traps, futanari, etc.
You thought it was the degeneracy of the mainstream society when in fact... you were the weapon all along.
>>74512171
She doesn't have a bump, just a femenine vagina ;_;
>>74511939
>if you dont respect my pronouns then you wont be able to interact with me
oh jeez im really losing out on
>>74509589
>Is transgenderism a mental illness?
All mutilation of healthy tissue is a mental illness.
>>74512050
that picture makes me sad
cute well adjusted looking girl who understands and appreciates the benefits and pros of femininity
what drives people to become this
and before you say liberal arts or gender studies, i mean before that. What drives them TO those classes?
>>74511863
Okay; so you're a person with a dick feeling like a girl.
Why do you get help in turning into a girl instead of being helped to become a man?
Because having a sex change is genital mutilation. Period, or more so the lack of it, confirms that you're a disfigured man with tits in the end.
>>74509589
Yes
>>74512375
>circumcision clamp was invented by jews
water is wet
more at 11
>>74512412
I've got a few lol
>>74512432
why would you want to be a man retard?
>>74512412
>>74512375
I feel sad for all the comrades that have lost their foreskin without consent.
>>74512474
There's been threads where they try to blame Kellog and excuse the kikes, when the kike market the clamp to this day.
>>74512276
this
ppl dont realize this
4chan is the most degenerate
>>74512432
here's something i usually like considering
say in the far future, we have a machine that a person with gender dysphoria steps into, walks out of, and is literally now the other biological sex
like they have real tits, a real functioning vagina, their XY chromosomes have been converted to XX, they can bear children, they produce estrogen etc
if the technology was this advanced, would it be okay?
>>74511754
...What?
All I'm saying is there's nobody who incorrectly puts you in the wrong body.
This does the job well. It basically calls trannies and their supporters pieces of shit. The guy uses legitimate scientific studies, the same ones the LGBT community use to prove persecution, to show how mentally deranged trannys are and explains how their supporters are only hurting them by reinforcing their delusions. The best part is that it does it in a nice caring way; you can post this video on your liberal mothers or gay cousins facebook page without being called a homophobe or trannyphobe or whatever. It will caring-ly call them supporters of delusion and enablers of suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khwGlUe9qdI
>>74509589
no source on this image?
>>74512565
oh fucking hell
its gotta be trauma related, it just has to be. She had to have been touched or raped or berated verbally in such a way that drove her to this.
>>74512699
>>74511823
How does her son feel about it?
>>74512587
circumcision is a very shifty practice because of the skin being sold to cosmetic companies and all, but as a hygienic thing it makes sense. No smegma for me if i forget/dont have the time to shower one day
>>74510665
it's Singapore
I was in the thread that the OP posted those images he took
>>74509589
GIVE ME THE FUCKIGN SAUCEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>74509589
yes
>>74511984
In terms of categories, I guess you could say that.
But really I just never had any awareness of the fact that there were opportunities to transition back in the 90's.
The whole time through my childhood I had that wish. Had I been in a different set of conditions, I would have gone for it, but now I'm hopelessly trapped in my obviously masculine body and I don't have a chance of achieving any more than being a "man in a dress", so I just tolerate being the coolest girl I know and the only one who knows it.
It's not that I'm oblivious to the fact that sounds absurd to you. I'm not so delusional that I lack self-awareness, but the gender roles expected of me are very rigid and people get upset if I don't conform to them, so I just deal with it and do my "thing" in private so you guys don't have to panic over the fear that I might rape your kids.
>>74512193
>So you are saying that trannies are just drug addicted pansies who are currently being catered to because SJWs demand they do?
I'm saying the official prescriptions and procedure for transitioning for trannies are taking hormones and living as a girl in public etc. Chopping off the dick is pretty uncommon for many reasons. Nobody ever, ever mentions HRT even though it's the actual core medical bedrock of transitioning, like 90% of it. It's always screaming about genital mutilation etc. Shows /pol/'s main and ONLY source of research for this is from SJWs and Daily Mail sensationalist headlines, and your own fantasies about what trannies or doctors do or say "oh I bet they do this and say this, what an outrage" etc.
There's also many bold assertions that "It's just actually <thing>. The proper way to cure them is to <thing>" when it's just some layman assumption or guess or gut feeling the anon had.
It's fine if you bash, I agree they're mentally ill, but at least learn about the actual treatments.
>Tell me, faggot, why are 75% of trannies male to female? IF this was a natural thing shoudln't it be more 50-50?
I don't know. Men and women don't have 50/50 rates for anything. Why would they for this?
>>74512803
I have two daughters whom I'm quite certain are mine.
>>74512932
Miss the days before DNA tests so you could never be fully certain, so you'd knock the wife up a couple more times just to be sure.
>>74512595
IF by all standards that magical machine did that;
and the person was able to ovulate and bear children, I see no reason why not.
Hell, I'll maybe even ask the Mrs. if we both swap so she can pound my coochie on our next vacation in Thailand.
> i still think it would be awkward though.
>>74512688
scroll or read the thread faggot
>>74511189
Please stop defending trannies. It's embarrassing.
>>74509649
fpbp.
its called gender dysphoria, and it is a body image disorder much like bulimia.
While a homosexual, is still in many respects a perfectly normal person aside from being wired wrong, someone with gender dysphoria is definitely mentally troubled, and needs therapy and medication, not fucking hormones and a dick chop surgery.
>>74511189
there is available treatment that uses neuroplasticity to try to change their brains. they treat it almost the same as trying to change addiction. it is legitimate but it has been berated as hateful. they do not accept any treatment as legit. they say nothing can legitimately treat it because it itself is legitimate and doesnt need to be treated. that's the whole fucking problem with these people; they're mentally ill and they have a bunch of retarded liberals who reinforce their delusions because it fits their agenda
>>74512595
There would have to be brain changes that made the process 100% complete. You'd effectively be changing the person entirely, and the human that emerges from the machine would be entirely different.
That's like saying:
"Say we have a machine that converts you 100% into Al Pacino. When you exit the machine, are you Al Pacino?" - well, yeah, since the machine literally turns you into Al Pacino.
Or a goat, or a bear, or a crustacean, etc.
>>74510021
>there are people that think they should be quadriplegic, we dont paralyze them as treatment.
well, there WAS this...
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/01/north-carolina-woman-identifies-as-blind-pours-drain-cleaner-in-her-eyes/
Just so you know most stealth transgirls hate the flamboyant ones or the ugly old men in drag more than any of you do.
>>74513578
are you legitimately retarded?
changing your endocrine system does not make you a different person
changing your dna sequencing to xx/xy does not make you a different person
you having been watching too much sci fi
>>74513180
But really, does anyone have actual alternative treatments with proven results? Why should doctors and trannies and everyone else drop everything? The only answers I've ever gotten, for years and years, is "well they can't test anything because jews stopping them" etc, which just proves they have no actual facts or studies to base any alternative treatment on, just guesses and theories and "oh I bet that'd work if only they'd try it, sigh".
You can hate them, call them insane, call them jews, but nobody else has any other ideas.
>>74513478
>we need to change their brains!
>>74513578
>changing brains is bad!
Getting mixed messages here
>>74513096
> I see no reason why not.
Isn't it degenerate though? Even having the thought is degenerate. You should only use the machine to turn into a more masculine man.
>>74513478
In order to force treatment on people you need to establish that they lack the competence to consent to them.
It's unethical for the same reason it's unethical to force people with depression to take anti-psychotics.
Not everyone wants to have their sense of self heavily modified.
>>74512432
If your brain says you're a girl when you aren't, feeling like a girl isn't the sickness. That's the part that is right in your head, that's reality. When you look down and you have a dick, its like a nightmare where you're trapped in the opposite sex's body. Why would the solution to the nightmare be to embrace the nightmare, the terrible thing that is fucking with you? Thats like telling a cancer patient to beat cancer by transforming into a massive tumor
>>74513478
>>74511189
There is a book that explains the whole treatment and how it has worked for many people. the book's called, "the brain that changes itself" by norman doidge
>https://books.google.com/books?id=Qw7qj5nXSPUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=brain+that+changes+itself&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj85OQvOfMAhVBIcAKHal-ChIQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=brain%20that%20changes%20itself&f=false
>>74513965
lol, okay dork. go back to sucking dicks behind dumpsters
>>74513682
Male brains and female brains are different. They develop differently, so there's a past that needs to be undone. Also neurotransmitter levels changing, dopamine, seratonin, etc.
Same with Bone structure, hormones, glands, etc. It's not a simple switch. All of these systems are closely tied together, and if you want a 100% female body, you'd need to account for everything.... which creates a new person. That person might share memories with their prior incarnation, but that's damn nearly it. Personality would be wildly different.
>>74513976
I don't consent to the treatment. I like who I am.
It's you people who have the problem.
See:
>>74513960
>>74513960
who said anything about force? you are exactly the kind of faggot that makes me glad the U.S. will collapse in a decade
>>74514245
>who said anything about force?
The majority of transgender people don't want to have their sense of self stripped away from them, any more than you want to be turned into one of us.
>>74514100
sure thing, thing
>>74514100
post dick in panties if you like yourself
>>74514080
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds
ru-roh
>>74514400
I would, but my kids are home.
Besides, all you want is something to jack off with.
I might be a deviant, but I'm not abusive, and I'm not a camwhore.
You want this feminine penis, you're gonna have to send money.
>>74514365
that is not true. every poll i've seen says they want help if they can get it. 40% attempt suicide so to say "most" anything positive about trans is almost impossible. shush your dick sucking lips and go read s'more
>>74513976
I read a summary. If you don't have a working treatment (and I don't mean perfect treatment, because the one they have right now isn't) then there's not enough reason for them to drop everything else related to current transition methods. You might as well say no treatments for any mental disease from schizophrenia to OCD exist because we can just use this method now. Come on.
>>74514080
That sort of stuff developing under the influence of HRT estrogen during puberty will develop exactly like a female would. Skeletons are the real issue (can be solved with pre-puberty hrt) and fat displacement (solved with hrt at any time). Social cues and everything to do with public life is the thing no science can cure if the tranny's a dumb autist, though.
>>74514592
well you're a fucking bitch aren't you
>>74514365
I need narcotics to feel like myself.
If you don't prescribe me hydrocodone, you are stripping me of my sense of self.
See how it works?
>>74514466
Except they are different. And a billion other studies have examined those differences.
Doesn't matter though, anyway. Since you walked right into the trap.
If men and women don't have different brains, then how does one 'feel female'? What does it mean? You can't be trapped in the wrong body if your brain state is interchangeable with both male and female states.
ruh roh.
>>74514597
>every poll i've seen says they want help if they can get it.
Are you sure that what the polls are referring to is a treatment which will make all the femininity go away so they can being super macho men like you?
>>74511979
I NEED A NAME! IF I DON'T GET ONE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY SORRY!
>traps dress cuter than girls
Explain this /pol/
Must be nice that this is the only issue facing the world today. Oh woe is you for having to know trans people exist. How about you worry about all the fucking niggers committing crimes or how about the immigration issue and how they fucked entry level labor? Jesus me being trans is such a fucking nonsense issue for any of you men to be concerned about.
>>74514852
Yes, I do, and unfortunately it's you "normal people" who put those limitations into legislature.
I think you should be able to take all the opiates you need.
>>74512286
That manface is actually female?
>>74514592
>Not a camwhore
>send money for pics
I don't even really care because I think the fact that guy asked you for a pic is degenerate, but do you not see the inconsistency in that statement?
Transgenderism is no different from homosexuals and Pedofiles. It's a mental disorder that needs to be fixed.
>>74515066
I noticed it.
I meant to say "free camwhore"
>>74509589
Mental Illness doesn't exist.
It is a delusion and like all delusions, it eventually wears off.
... Then they kill themselves.
>>74514971
Same goes for SJWs. I can't believe how both idiot sides got caught up in the fucking bathroom shit.
FUCKING
POOROOMS
Only Trump was smart enough to rise above the fray. The true God emperor.
>>74514967
They're thirsty for dick
>>74514961
filename
>anorexia is a mental illness
>depression is a mental illness
>being trans is empowering
On a side note, ever notice how trans people are tall as fuck? They are actually PRIVILEGED in society. Only could a white man with god tier genes turn into a hot trap, but if you're a manlet, you're 110% fucked
>>74514967
Since traps are not actually female they put in all the effort to look cute and act feminine, and they do put a lot of women to shame.
The female mind is mentally ill by nature. I think that is why men with the minds of women appear so
mentally ill.
But we don't hear much about women who transition into men. Because the male mind is more stable, in
many respects, so women with male minds cope better and lead more normal lives.
>>74509953
>muh manuals
You know they change them all the time.
>>74509589
No it's the new face of western culture. Homosexuality, transgenderism, bestiality, i don't see anything more western than those.
>>74511939
what is in all the jars?
>>74515157
Yeah trump has my vote because he doesn't give a shit, he even lets trans girls compete in miss universe contests. Its not anyone's fucking choice but mine to live my life as I see fit and when I am not online, my being trans is never ever brought up because i pass and I am post-op. I have a vagina now I can't use a urinal anyway, plus ladies rooms aren't some ultra secret club house, they are toilets in locking stalls, big deal. I'm into men so why would I creep in a fucking toilet area? jesus
>>74514961
fucking retard
NOBODY CAN MAKE UP THEIR FUCKING MINDS
If it's not a mental disorder and something to just accept, then there should be no reason for wanting to include SRS and HRT in their daily lives or in HMO packages. IF IT IS, THEN IT'S CLEARLY NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS HEALTHY AND NORMAL BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT WHAT AN ILLNESS IS.
That said good MtFs inhabit some weird valley between the masculine and feminine that just gets my dick rock hard, so at this point I just don't care. Just give me pictures and muted videos.
>>74514885
I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here
but the argument is that someone only feels female because of societal expectations. I'm not saying I agree with trans mentality, like I agree how can you possibly know what the other gender feels like, its just identity confusion but
are you saying that study is just wrong and falsifying information?
>>74515209
>that pic
its cause farquaad is a dick. When someone is a dick its okay to make fun of their physical appearance
>>74509959
/thread
>>74515591
its just semantics you caps fucker. They'll draw some stupid comparison like "is needing to hydrate an illness because you need to treat it with water?"
>>74515619
>researchers led by Daphna Joel, a behavioral neuroscientist at Tel Aviv University in Israel
Yes I am disputing this study's veracity.
>>74515524
the gubmint should have mandatory SRS for all trannies so they can't rape women, there, no more bathroom scare, lol
Also also magical medical procedures making it so that they will all pass, so they won't creep anyone out being some weirdo hon
>>74515711
Shrek was a dick too though. A big green ogre dick.
>>74512871
Honestly you are mentally ill and should try to get help tbqh
>pic related
>>74515888
Bruce jenner caused all this because he is a loud mouth hon fetishist
>>74511984
>>74512106
lol wtf
Since when do Ticos use 4chan?
>>74516048
Tripfags should be shot same with attention whores and here is your (you)
Were there an actual scientific way of becoming a man or woman (cloning, nanobots, other near future shit) I'd be fine with trannies converting. Hell, I'd probably go for it myself (thanks modern society!).
But for trannies to think that injecting hormones and chemicals, performing invasive and mutilating surgeries, and demanding every aspect of society be warped to meet their desires somehow makes them into men or women is absolutely wrong and insulting.
>>74516048
Bruce is a cancerous faggot retard and ruined so many things for trannies. But that's all /pol/ knows
>>74515905
A classic.
>>74515852
>le scary jews meme
Israel is an epicenter for medical and neuroscientific research
im expecting a "back to redit" reply or some other dismissive nonsense that will only contribute to this board being viewed as satire
>>74515905
The pic provides a rationalization that sounds plausible to those who don't experience it, but in my case I really just don't fucking like the idea of being a sweaty, hairy, muscular creature who is stuck walking around looking like some kind of lumberjack and can only take interest in manly hobbies out of fear of being associated with...
...people like me...
>>74516339
Go back to plebbit, fag.
>>74516339
Back to Plebbit, hoser.
It started off with me and the bros jacking off together. Then my bro and I started jacking each other just because it felt better. Then we'd take it in turns dressing up like a girl and turning the lights down to complete the effect. Thing is I liked being the girl. One time I sucked him off, pretty soon I was letting him put it in my butt. Now I'm a lady.
>>74511933
Naw dude I detest all anal penetration.
>>74516300
If it's just a matter of efficiency than that'll happen eventually.
>and demanding every aspect of society be warped to meet their desires
The only people saying this are non-tranny SJWs on tumbrl and college, feminists, and hons like bruce. How many trannies do you know that acted like a bitch to you about it, personally?
>>74516519
>the best part is, neither of us is gay
>>74516300
I never made any demands.
Like I said, I've just been dealing with it.
It's a very awkward feeling that "progress" has developed so much in my lifetime that the mortal terror I felt about being discovered is coming into conflict with the fact that I could start dressing up tomorrow and call it a "political protest" and people would believe me.
I honestly thought it could never happen, same as you.
>>74516395
>The pic provides a rationalization that sounds plausible to those who don't experience it, but in my case I really just don't fucking like the idea of being a sweaty, hairy, muscular creature who is stuck walking around looking like some kind of lumberjack and can only take interest in manly hobbies out of fear of being associated with...
You just sound like a hipster with very warped gender views. A dude can be masculine at 170lbs if he wears a suit and makes a lot of money. Being a man isn't defined as being a hulking ogre tradesman who jacks off to tools.
Your perspective of reality is flawed and retarded, there's a lot of natural gray.
>>74509589
It's where the brain develops as an opposite biological sex to the body. So not really a mental disorder, just the cause of a lot of internal confusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjC3zBKgL3M
>>74516338
>ruined so many things for trannies.
They already ruined shit for themselves to begin with m8
>>74511124
It's Lana Rain, has a pussy in her chaturbate videos but looks like a dude. I'm not sure if SRS Trannie or Ugly chick (Anzu of the West basically)
>>74516395
You don't have to be a lumberjack to be a man retard and I bet you were raised by a single mom too.
>>74516696
But that's what I look like, and it's what my father looked like when I was 8 years old.
See where I'm going with this?
I don't even work out. I have a naturally masculine frame. It's awful.
>>74516277
>not being a trap with a gf
what a faggot
>>74516468
>>74516496
thanks for proving me right dinguses
>>74516888
You probably don't loo as masculine as you think. Th number of dudes who are just naturally jacked beefy mother fuckers are very few in number.
Even if you were no one would give you shit for liking shit that doesn't involve construction or cars.
>>74516743
Lel that fag is a failure of a male and a father
>>74516590
fucking LOL
Here's a thought, the word transgender is the fucking problem.
What that word did is essentially create a little cult essentially that believes gender is mental and not physical.
Not to mention it has caused transvestites to be grouped with them now because the general person can't tell the difference at first glance.
If the actual ones who got the full surgery just said," I'm a woman/man now" then I don't think this whole hubbub about transgenderism wouldn't exist. Unfortunately, a group of sexually confused little snowflakes took the word and now it has spiraled into one big clusterfuck.
>>74516910
>""""""""""""""Girl"""""""""""""""'''friend
Mentally ill fags dating mentally ill fags doesn't make it better
>>74516972
Does it feel really good? Do you feel that little tingle of dopamine because you were right about something on the internet?
You anticipated you'd get called a plebbit faggot when you act like a plebbit faggot. Congratulations.
>>74516910
Those are both traps. Yes, even the one on the right. How do I know? I happen to be a connoisseur of trap and shemale porn, and I recognize them both.
>>74517264
I don't look at that filth but I knew due to the shoulders and jaw line
>>74509959
You made me kek, good job.
>>74517264
>I happen to be a connoisseur of trap and shemale porn
You happen to be a fagget.
>>74517024
My legs. Even when I'm down in the 160 range, they're thick.
My feet. I'm a fucking size 13.
It's gross.
So yeah, I don't have to conform to gender stereotypes, but every single inch I creep away from expressing masculinity, the more people think I'm a nu-male little sissy.
To the point where, if I showed up to work in a dress, people would think, "well, that makes sense," even if they weren't comfortable with it and it looks terrible.
You don't have to accept my subjective interpretation of self. I intentionally go out of my way to make it pleasant for you.
>>74515826
I'LL FUCK YOU IN THE CAPS YOU GRAMMATICAL NORMIE
>>74517653
You type like a fag.
>>74516972
>dinguses
I can't imagine anyone but scrawny, stereotypical nerd using that insult.
>>74517781
I am a fag.
>>74517827
Well, then.
>>74517870
Glad we could come to an understanding.
>>74510850
That's LGBT entirely, transgenders only make up around 0.3%. We want to alter the way human bathrooms worked and have always worked so that 0.3% of the population can affirm their delusions.
>>74516910
The one on the left. Yum.
>>74517804
hehe... you wish kiddo, id take you to the ground any day of the week...
>>74517237
Here I'll do the same thing. I'm going to use my powers of precognition to anticipate you're going to reply like a massive faggot.
>>74509589
Your gender is literally embedded in every cell of your body. You can dress up as a girl and have as many prostate orgasms as you want, but that just makes you a faggot.
>>74517933
>so that 0.3% of the population can affirm their delusions.
SJWs are the ones that caused the shitstorm
The only safety concern comes because of BLACK trannies always getting killed by BLACK dindus in BLACK communities, but sjws never want to talk about that
>>74517653
>My legs. Even when I'm down in the 160 range, they're thick.
You must have no upper body.
>So yeah, I don't have to conform to gender stereotypes, but every single inch I creep away from expressing masculinity, the more people think I'm a nu-male little sissy.
Maybe because you act like a little sissy boy. It's okay to be a little sissy boy though, no one honestly gives a shit they'll just think you're a bit nerdy. The only time people actually care is when you act like a flaming faggot and even then you have to be a real douchebag about it.
>>74510372
When you weird out the Japanese, you are quite the fuck up.
if op picture is from a porn i want sauce
>>74509589
How the fuck would it possibly be natural to want to switch genders?
Where in nature do we ever see this?
>>74518643
You'll never understand it. You lack empathy, you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes.
>>74509707
did I miss a meme here?
>>74518418
>Maybe because you act like a little sissy boy. It's okay to be a little sissy boy though, no one honestly gives a shit they'll just think you're a bit nerdy
I'm aware, and that's why I just deal with it and stay in the closet, because I'm not so tortured by my appearance that it makes me suicidal. Here online, I can slip out of the forced masculine role and as long as I don't look in a mirror I don't have to take the precautions of self awareness, but when I'm among co-workers, I have to completely own my repressed transphobia and mock trannies and make jokes about the bathroom issue (which I genuinely do agree is one of the stupidest manufactured controversies ever) and don't reveal that I know way more details than I should about girly things.
It's not so much that I'm ashamed of it. It's more that I know that "coming out" can have a dramatic influence on my livelihood. I could lose my job. I could get the shit beat out of me. I would get pushed away from my friends and family, who, like you, don't understand and have no intention of humoring the notion.
If I can "deal with it", you can too.
>>74511228
>mfw I know a guy named German Palacios
>>74509707
FUCK YOU DAD
>>74519321
>repressed transphobia
internalized*
>>74509589
Yes, it's a disease.
>>74509707
hi dad
>>74519321
Nah, you're just a mentally sick wannabe victim bitch. We have a faggot with a lisp in my shop full of guys who hate faggots and niggers but we actually like the guy because even though he is a faggot he ended up being good to have around and generally helpful. No one gives a fuck if you want to be a little girl, do your fucking job and you're fine just don't be a victim every two seconds. If the faggot at our shop ever stopped and complained about us insulting faggots we'd have an issue but he just deals with it and goes with it so as always no one gives two halves of a fuck. Even in a hyper masculine industry weird fucks are accepted as long as it doesn't fuck with anyone, no one fucking care you little pussy.
>>74519888
>but he just deals with it and goes with it so as always no one gives two halves of a fuck
it sounds like hes doing exactly what you just described though...
>>74519888
If nobody cares then why are you so goddamned mad when I'm not even trying to use the girl's room or creep on your daughter out of respect for your insistence on telling me who I am?
>>74510998
reeeeee
I'm confused; SJWs say that gender roles are social constructs, but if that is the case, how can a tranny 'feel' like a woman in their mind while also believing that the definitions that they are LITERALLY use to describe why they feel like a woman/man perpetuate that gender roles are a real and natural thing? If gender roles don't actually exist, why do they keep using gender roles (male and female) to justify how much of a woman/man they feel like?
There is so much damn in-fighting with these people; I'm almost positive I am going to get a least ten different answers to this, and then those ten will start fighting with each other over which answer is right.
>>74513671
Pizza?
>>74520120
Not even close, the faggot doesn't try to be manly mc muscles or pretend to be and then complain about how he's victimized later.
>>74520228
Because you're being a pussy. You're not ending it at it being unacceptable for you to be a huge degenerate, you're bitching about having to pretend to be captain lumberjack when everyone already knows you're feminine and you're acting like it's awful for you.
>>74509589
most trans is just a sexual fetish but a few are so mentally ill that they actually think they are the other gender
>>74509997
>>74510023
just further proof that men are better than women at everything, even being degenerate whores.
>>74512412
>What drives them TO those classes?
the fact that they exist. if you give people the options to be retarded, a lot of them will choose to be retarded.
>>74519226
Check the ID
>>74520281
Social constructs are real, they're just arbitrary.
>>74520637
>Because you're being a pussy.
Telling you that you're such an ignorant asshole that I just do what I can to get by doesn't undo the shit I get to hear from you people who believe I'm "one of you" almost daily.
My own boss talks shit to me about a transgendered manager from another department, wondering why they haven't found an excuse to fire "him" yet. She's completely oblivious to the fact that this kind of "behind closed doors" talk is grounds for a hostile work environment lawsuit, and I have no intention of getting involved in that mess, but I don't want to be the target of that hatred, so I just do my thing and laugh and play along.
I'm not a victim. I'm not a victim because I'm not trying to become one.
>>74521478
>Telling you that you're such an ignorant asshole that I just do what I can to get by doesn't undo the shit I get to hear from you people who believe I'm "one of you" almost daily.
No one believes you're like us, you're too much of a limp wristed faggot to handle it. Your coworkers probably don't even call you a faggot.
>My own boss talks shit to me about a transgendered manager from another department, wondering why they haven't found an excuse to fire "him" yet. She's completely oblivious to the fact that this kind of "behind closed doors" talk is grounds for a hostile work environment lawsuit, and I have no intention of getting involved in that mess, but I don't want to be the target of that hatred, so I just do my thing and laugh and play along.
Once again, no one gives a fuck unless you're worthless. You think anyone is going to talk shit about that tranny faggot that produces 5 mil a year? I mean they will, but in jest the same way we call our best sales guy a rapist scum bag piece of shit. No one fucking cares unless you suck or are a faggot about everything.
>I'm not a victim. I'm not a victim because I'm not trying to become one.
Maybe you're just venting but you certainly act like one which is bad enough.
