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Koch Brothers now funding "Libertarian" open borders candidate Gary Johnson in desperate attempt to Stump the Trump.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/19/report-david-koch-pledges-millions-to-fund-spoiler-third-party-run/
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>>74496451
man the actor who plays hawkeye looks like shit without makeup
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>>74496451

open borders you say?

NEIN
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>>74496451
He went full cuck on Rogan

https://youtu.be/KQIuHGbKckY

shilling for shared showers

he should retire and be ashamed of his sorry self
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>>74496451
It'll work too. We only need to garner 5-6% in a couple swing states to ensure Trump gets fucked by the electoral college.
Prepare your anuses Trump fags.
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>>74496451

I am a Libertarian, I am still going to vote for Trump. Even passing up my own party for this election. Hillary must not win.
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>>74497051

Then hillary wins retard
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>>74497051
>we
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>>74496451
The cock brothers are such faggots
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>>74497127
Same senpai. I don't care what others say, Trump is the lesser of two evils and voting for him is our only chance.
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>>74496773
>over 2 hours
I'll take your word for it anon
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He's seriously the worst libertarian candidate.
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>>74497051

You don't to do anything American is already 60% white and shitskins, women and aids infested liberal fags will get her in the white house
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>>74496451
Trump is a pragmatic-ideal rebirth, through fire and ice, of a the perfect American political party. The delirious hope of a Kennedy candidacy, with the political shrewdness of a Nixon. #MAGA
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>>74497413
yeah sorry couldn't be arsed going through it.

he went full cuck anyway and seems to be a sellout.

I liked him before but he seems semi-estab
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>>74496451
Why not fund Hillary?

Seems far more cost efficient with the same end result.
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>>74497051

He literally just defeated 16 candidates with hundreds of millions of dollars spent against him...

and you think $hillary and a lolbertarian cuck will stump him? Learn your lesson, shills. You Can't Stump the Trump
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Would not it attract open borders Bernie-fags instead of Trump supporters?
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>yfw Bernie joins the Green Party and it's a 4 way election
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>>74497357
Get out cucks. How dare you. Kek will curse you.
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Libertarian ideals are totally aimless without an underlying base of nationalist sentiment.
A people must always place their own needs and prosperity above all others.


Gary Johnson's constant praise of Bernie Sanders is enough to write him off completely.
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>>74496451

FEEL THE JOHNSON
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>>74497655

1860 when?
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>>74497166
Can't you see that's what they're aiming for?

If Trump becomes POTUS, there'll be a major fucking power shift within the GOP. The establishment would lose a lot of their power.

They'll happily endure Hillary for 4 years to ensure that their party continues to be theirs.
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>>74496451
>open borders
>libertarian

Pick one, there are no wanderimg around with no permissions in a free society. That meme must die.
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>>74497613
Because only short haired dykes will vote for Hillary and that demographic will not ever vote for trump anyways
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He denied it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/19/libertarian-hopeful-gary-johnson-denies-rumor-of-eight-figure-koch-campaign-donation/
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>>74497613

Because Trump has a far larger chance of winning a 2 person race than they want you to know.
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>>74497777
Ron Paul is called a paleolibertarian solely for his closed borders stance you dumbass
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>>74496451
That idea failed before i was done reading that headline
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>>74497808
Do you have to declare your major donations in America?
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>>74497862
Here's the issue:

Gary Johson draws more from Hillary than Trump, by a huge margin.
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/gary-johnson-siphons-support-clinton-trump-new-poll/

Yep. Libertarian candidate is taking more from dems than republicans
Trump is appealing to everyone but cuckservatives who will always vote red.
Hillary is just horrible.
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>>74497051
Literally every person has been saying Trump stands no chance this whole time and no one has been able to stop him. Trump will steamroll his way to the whitehouse.
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>>74497979
Yes
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>>74496451
We need 7 general election candidates minimum.
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>>74497769

Koch money is going to become toxic even within the republican party if they go through with this.
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>>74497881
There is no open borders, period. Any libertarian shilling for anything that interferes with contractual agreement is a leftist.
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>>74497051
see
>>74498010
strong gary johnson is bad news for hillary you shill
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>>74497613
Her disapproval ratings. People who won't vote for Hillary will never vote for Hillary but they might split the vote for Johnson
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>>74497166
and?
>>74497555
"we" already lost this election. Hillary is just the lesser of two evils.
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>>74496451
HAHAHAHA... these cucks just don't get it.

Democracy isn't about rich faggots like him, it's about the people. And the people have spoken.
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>>74496451
top kek, they were /pol/ dearest.
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>>74497629
>lolbertarian
its like you want to give up your guns
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>>74496451
Fuck Gary Johnson.

Vote AUSTIN PETERSEN 2016
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>>74497979
No. If political donations are handled a certain way then they're totally anonymous. Thats the biggest issue with super PACs and the like.
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>>74498060
libertarians think the free market will solve open borders you retard
http://www.lp.org/platform
>Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders

libertarians are fucking stupid
>>74498183
>he's unironically a bernie supporter
off yourself
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>Establishment that normally backs GOP candidates is willing to throw the election away to Hillary just to stop Trump
Why doesn't this make people realize that Trump represents real change and a real threat to "business as usual" in Washington? If Trump was going to "play ball," they wouldn't be doing any of this shit.
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>Koch brothers funding a libertarian


What the fuck am I reading?

Things keep getting more insane
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>>74498303
Tell me about Austin Peterson.
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>>74498183
>"we" already lost this election. Hillary is just the lesser of two evils.

want your penny shill
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>>74498449
Johnson denied it, read the thread.
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>>74497764

>1860 when?

2016!
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>>74497613
Trump will beat Clinton in a landslide if it's the two of them head to head. The only chance they have to stop him is to get a third party to run and siphon votes away from Trump.

I still don't think it'll work because it'll also take votes away from Clinton. Lots of Liberals hate her and will only vote for her out of a deeper hatred for Trump. I think there's far more Democrats who hate Clinton than Republicans who hate Trump.
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Well, it worked for Jeb. Guess I'm a schlong for Johnson now.
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>>74498456

He's another faggot lolbertarian.
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>>74498404
Shit is insane, right?
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>>74498456

Why does he wear the mask?
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>>74498544

Of course he denied it. Nobody wants to be publicly associated with the Koch Brothers.
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>>74497788
>>74497862

You don't seriously think this 3rd candidate could ever win, do you?
America has a 2 party system: it's either Trump or Clinton.
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>>74498358
Those are leftists then, the open borders meme is very recemt
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>>74498732
people think johnson will hurt trump when it's the opposite
johnson is already leeching votes from hillary due to disenfranchised bernie voters
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>>74498456

He's the only principled libertarian with any chance of getting the nomination.

He's a smart guy and quotes a lot of obscure Jefferson.

Unfortunately he's also a little faggot with zero accomplishment to his name, whereas Mcaffee and Johnson are both badasses.

But you are voting trump so it doesn't matter
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>>74498906

all these principled libertarians are principled when it comes to left issues like gay marriage, and never with right issues like freedom of association

they are leftists
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>>74498861

That's hurting Trump because the disenfranchised Bernie people would've voted for Trump without the 3rd party libertarians and green party idiots
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>>74498732
No. I don't think a third can win this year. However it was not long ago when Ross Perot could have won, but he was cowed into submission by death threats.

The point is that lots of people vote third as a protest, "Because I can't vote for evil hillary or misoginist Trump" and which of the two those %s will shave off from
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>>74499098
because lolbertarianism is a leftist ideology
open borders is fundamentally capitalism

enjoy your FREE BABY MARKET, lolbertarians.
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>>74499181
>>That's hurting Trump because the disenfranchised Bernie people would've voted for Trump
...except they're democrats you idiot
they would normally vote blue
any non-blue vote or not voting is a plus
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>>74496451
And when Trump wins, will leftist faggots admit that the Koch brothers really don't have much sway over elections?
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>>74497127
Same
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>>74498906
If I were a big L Libertarian I would vote for Mcafee hands down
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>>74496451

Vote Gary Johnson for

>open borders with Mexico
>amnesty for illegal wetbacks
>fags trannies and feminist bullshit
>dude weed lmao
>"america yay take in it's fair share of Syrian refugees" ~Gary Johnson, Reason Magazine
>black lives matter because statist police are racist


Libertarians please wake up. Most of you are decent and rational people. Your not insane self-hating anti-white masochist freaks like liberals are. Somewhere in your gut you *know* this shit is wrong. I used to be a libertarian myself. I get it. You just have to wake up and free yourself from this cancerous fucking ideology before it is too late. Please.
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>>74499232
>>open borders is fundamentally capitalism
woops, meant communism
too tired for this shit
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>>74496451
HAHAHHA GARY JOHNSON IS LITERALLY AN OPEN BORDERS CANDIDATE

HE IS GOING TO BE STEALING VOTES FROM THE DEMS

HAHAHAHHAHAH
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>>74496451
WTF way to spin his POV, lolbertarians aren't for open borders. Just not closed ones.
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>>74499510
Johnson has LITERALLY SAID he wants open borders.

Nice Try Shill. You plan will not work. NOW FUCK OFF.

THEY TRIED THIS SAME BULLSHIT WITH REAGAN AND IT STILL DIDNT WORK.
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>>74499448
>>HE IS GOING TO BE STEALING VOTES FROM THE DEMS
as already proven by polls
refer to
>>74498010

gary johnson aligns far, far more with dems than republicans because of his far-left social stance and moderate economic stances.
conservative issues are HUGE for republian voters, and gary johnson loses every single one
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>>74499448
I have literally seen him debate this and say he is not for open borders. This is the first time I have seen /pol legitimately eat up a lie unironically.
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>>74499319

You really are stupid. Most Bernie supporters are not partisan Democrats. They're independent "progressive liberals"

Polls show 40% of the Bernie cucks would vote for Trump if Hillary gets the nomination because they really hate her and the "establishment" in general
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>>74499098
I tend to agree with this.
Gary Johnson himself states he is socially left but fiscally conservative.
The left however does not stand for the cause of liberty.

>>74499343
Spot on.

A nation that spends it tax dollars to feed, clothe, educate, and cater to the citizens of another country is working against its own interests. It is Mexico's duty to provide for the Mexican people. Spending US tax dollars on them instead of helping our own citizens is absolutely criminal.

America first. No excuses.
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>>74499642
>>You really are stupid. Most Bernie supporters are not partisan Democrats. They're independent "progressive liberals"
>let me tell you about your country.jpeg
you're a fucking idiot
these people vote democrat year after year
there is no such thing as an independent in USA as much as people pretend there is
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>>74499635
> "Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers. (Jan 2001)" ~ Gary Johnson

Sauce: http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm
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If Gary Johnson where allowed into the presidential debates with either Trump or Hillary or Sanders he would intellectually, and experientialy, and Rape them to death.
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>>74496451
Hey Bernie Bros, lookit, the Kochs HATE Trump. That means he's a good guy. Vote for him.
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>>74499181
But they wont be voting for Clinton. Democrats are split almost 50/50 between Clinton and Sanders, and Sanders supporters HATE Clinton.

Trump has like 70% of Republicans backing him and he'll only win over more now that he has the nomination.

If Johnson gets a big push far more Democrats will split off than Republicans giving Trump better numbers. If anything it'll probably be a closer run between Trump and Johnson than with Clinton.
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>>74499877
yep
he will destroy them with 'MUH OPEN BORDERS MUH BIG MEXICAN DICK MUH WEED'
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>>74499877
kek

how are libertarian autists this delusional?

Oh right it's the autism speaking

http://reason.com/blog/2011/07/20/being-libertarian-may-cause-au
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>>74499877
DUDE.....see: >>74499825

NO fucking chance my man. Johnson would get crushed by Trump and it would highlight how close Johnson is to the Dems. Johnson is literally a SUPER socially liberal candidate as well. He would split the Liberal Dem vote so badly.
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>>74497051
All the butthurt Cruzfags will jump ship the moment your guy starts talking about "freedom of movement" It's time to join Mitt Romney in the loser's circle.
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>>74500181
dude, not even that
johnson is pro-choice
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>>74499642
What does that response have to do with my comment you dirty gypsy?
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>>74496451

Ruined his credibility now.
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>>74499762

The only reason the progressive cucks voted Democrat last 2 elections is because they wanted Nigger in the white house. They're not partisan
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>>74499607
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmIh3POYbk Go to 10:03 and listen to him, he is opposed to close borders and opposed to open ones. Im not shilling If I were murican I would not vote for him and desu why would I shill for a political candidate in another country on /pol. I know the trump love here and I'm not trying to change it. But don't misrepresent others views for the keks plz.
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>>74499877
I like libertarian shit but Gary Johnson comes across as a attention whore and kind of too snarky to make good arguments

Ron Paul was the god.
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>>74500322
you're an idiot
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>>74500304
My thoughts exactly.
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>>74500330
>>Ron Paul was the god.
ron paul was a paleolibertarian
just like pat buchanan is a paleoconservative

ron paul is to gray johnson as pat buchanan is to mitt romney
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>>74499994
>>74500084
Your lack of any real arguments amuses me.

Johnson left New Mexico with a surplus.
Nobody can deny that he ran a fucking tight ship in that state.

Hillary is a fucking corrupt robot.
I like Trump but not as much as Gary.

Weed being legalized literally wont do any harm. Hemp is the most useful plant in the god damn world.

Come at me later when you have something worth a fuck.
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>>74497051

Johnson is a full-on SJW. He'll pull voters from Hillary if anything.
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>>74500538

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-fair-society/201108/what-s-the-matter-libertarianism
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>>74500303
it obviously wasn't for you dumb burgernigger

>>74500386
not an argument
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>>74500538
>>Johnson left New Mexico with a surplus.
if you want a surplus why don't you go live in china?
because that's all that matters, right? GDP?
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>>74497777
stay the fuck out of it, britbong. literally no one will listen to you
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>>74500328
>it's not about lower pay
Fucking dropped. More labor means depressed wages.
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>>74496451
Do you have any credible sources for this claim?

No, random blogs on the internet like Breitbart and The Daily Caller are not valid sources.
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>>74500631
>>not an argument
neither is yours
>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY AND HOW THE FAR-LEFTS DON'T REPEATEDLY VOTE DEMOCRAT

they're open to voting trump because trump is literally left of hillary on many issues
hillary is a warhawk
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>>74500696
What so deficits are a good thing now?
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>>74499762
haha you are literally 12. did you just discover this board? welcome normie
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>>74500837
so why don't you go live in china?
it's superior, right?
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>>74500629
Nice Ad Hominem
come at me when you have something worth a fuck.
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>>74500746
Did I say he was right? All I was saying was that he is not for open borders and pretending he did is either b8 or lying.
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>>74500969
He might not strictly be for open borders, but in that clip he expresses too much sentiment for uncontrolled immigration.
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>>74500969
>or lying.

Open the border; flood of Mexicans would become taxpayers. (Jan 2001)

how can this be interpreted any other way oh genius lolbertarians?
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>>74500969

Doing the lords work Anon.
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>>74500944
Nice strawman you're building there. I literally didn't say shit about China. And they aren't exactly in a surplus either mind you.

Statistically the states with a surplus. See Texas, New mexico, ect. People are better off there are more jobs and the economy is doing better. Debt is bad dummy.
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>>74497777
Gary Johnson is a libertarian candidate who has an open border policy
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>>74497051
>Gary "Just open my borders up fammo" Johnson stealing votes from Trump
If anything he's more likely to siphon away Democrats who don't want Hillary.
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>>74500964

Autists can't be debated they can only be given crayons and legos.

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2007/04/libertarianism-is-applied-autism.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/16/all-about-libertarians-mystique-profile-increases/?page=all

http://www.debate.org/forums/Society/topic/13228/
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>>74501096
Idk how about 15 years later being recorded formally saying he is against open borders? I do not advocate or even approve of him, but for people who complain about getting straw manned like trump supporters do all the time it's a shame you are so willing to do it yourself.
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>>74500828

apparently I know more about your country than you do

more than 50% of the Bernie supporters are not partisan Democrats, that's a fact. they voted Democrat because they want a Nigger daddy in the WH
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>>74496451
>millions

Trump is spending a billion on his general campaign, and Hillary's backers have already pledged 2 billion on anti-Trump ads alone.
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>>74496451
If Johnson AND Bernie run 3rd party, I think you'll see the same results as a regular Hillary V Trump.
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>>74496451
He's an open borders libfuck that thinks he's too much of a rebel to be a democrat. Looking at his politics, he's about 80% democrat.
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>>74496451

>third party run

When was the last time the US even had a third party president? Ever?
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I just listened to Gary Johnson on Joe Rogan's podcast. He sounded like a retarded chump when he talks about foreign policy

>the Iranian nuclear deal is bad because Iran funds terrorism
>Joe asks him what terrorists they fund
>he starts giving hypothetical situations and tries to imply they fund ISIS and ISIS-inspired Sunni terrorists
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>>74496451
How hard is it to understand that, if Democracts continue to allow immigrants to flood the states, who statistically use welfare at 51% and vote vastly disproportionately for socialism, small Goverment and freedom based values WILL be elected away.
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>>74501530
>third party president
Never
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>>74496572
Give him a break Anon, he's 80.
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>>74496451
There is literally no reason not to vote for Gary Johnson if you are not in a swing state.
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Stop Trump anyway anyhow Trump must lose.
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>>74497051
He'll probably steal a lot of Bern victim votes, too. It won't have much of an impact.
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>>74501530
>When was the last time the US even had a third party president? Ever?
1904
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>>74501640

I didn't think so, so really what's the point in throwing good money after bad? Very sad.
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>>74499232
>free baby market
w-what
as in buying and selling babies
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>>74501530
Abraham Lincoln.
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>>74501687
the US MUST BECOME MEXICO
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>>74501374
>direct quote from him
>h-h-heh that's a strawman
libertarians are autistic.
gary johnson called having a wall along our border "nuts"
https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/06/exclusive-gary-johnson-running-for-presi
that is the definition of open border

>>74501458
apparently you don't understand what a 2 party system is you retard
there is no such thing as non-partisan in USA.
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>>74499098
>never with right issues like freedom of association
This. Gary Johnson sounded like a straight up cuck in that Stossel debate.
>muh LGBT rights
>muh pay gap
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Whatever, as long as Hillary doesn't win, Trump would be a retarded joke, but at least he isn't a sociopath. If they wanna try and Give Johnson a shit, go for it.
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>>74496451
Kochs are crypto-kikes, they also suck koch too.
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John McAfee is the only real Libertarian right now. I constantly cites George Orwell, one of the worlds perhaps based libertarians in history.
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>>74499989
>70% of Republicans backing him
More like 87% of republicans now.
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>>74501823
"Yes, we should have open borders- Gary Johnson

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm

>b-b-b-but libertarians believe in border control trust me

-dumbfucktardians
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>>74497051
>beats 16 others when everyone says he doesn't stand a chance
>already got a lead on a 1-on-1 race that'll still take 6 months to pan out

put in 5 more guys to dilute trump's support and he'll still win
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>>74501745
yes
welcome to libertarianism!
libertarians can't see past their nose to understand why their policies are retarded
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>>74496451
The Koch brothers are not true conservatives - they never were. They are globalist scum. All they've ever cared about is castrating the American worker and will adopt any political ideology to achieve their goals.
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>>74502019
DUDE
COCAINE
LMAO
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the koch brothers opposing trump would do nothing but boost his popularity desu
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>>74501228
Good thing Trump understands this is will do everything to get us out of debt.
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>>74497777
are you familiar with the koch brothers?
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>>74501823
m90 how is a quote from 15 years ago more relevant than a direct quote from a formal debate today, I will legitimately go on his website and find his border policy if I have to. Desu he is really a very easy candidate to attack, why lie?
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>>74498906
Austin Petersen went on Steven Crowder and started talking about the USA should have open borders. He specifically said that a truck from the USA and a truck from Mexico should be able to cross the border at the same speed without slowing down.
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>>74501677
Aw man, it's weird seeing Alda old.
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>>74502100
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>>74501481
>Clinton v Trump v Sanders v Johnson
>Johnson takes Democrats who don't want a gun grabber or socialist jew for president
>Bernie takes the bernouts
>Trump base largely undivided because they both want open borders anyways
The entire map would go red
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>>74502100
The context is important here, cuck. Rothbard isn't advocating child slavery, he's pointing out that a free market might need some essential restrictions.
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>>74502310
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm
there ya go
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>>74502226
Oh for fuck's sake

As the sole, sovereign issuer of a fiat, floating-rate, non-convertible currency, with all of its debts denominated in that same currency, the U.S. Federal Government can issue as many dollars as it wants, at any time, to anybody, for any reason. Solvency is a non-issue, as there is never a payment that a currency issuer cannot make in its own currency.

Anybody who applies the following expressions to the U.S. Federal government, including, but not limited to:

>"broke",
>"bankrupt",
>"insolvent",
>"going to default",
>"running out of money",
>"where's the money going to come from", >"can't afford X",
>"dependent on taxpayers/Treasury investors", >etc. etc.

can be immediately dismissed and declared to have absolutely no concept of how U.S. fiscal policy and operations work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaaQAg5_-f8


It's the private debt stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJjlYj4siU
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>>74500560
Does he want me to own guns at least?
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>>74502199
There is literally nothing wrong with cocaine.
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>>74502425
>he's pointing out that a free market might need some essential restrictions.
so then it's not free
inb4
>n-n-no it just needs SOME restrictions!
why do you get to pick the restrictions and not me?
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>>74502481
here's the problem you messed up on:
our interest rates are going to go back up and we already pay what, ~12% of our entire federal budget into interest?
In 10-15 years it's going to be 30-40%.
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>>74502085
All I was trying to do was say that misrepresenting someone's views is wrong.
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>>74502481
I know all this. All Trump needs to do is abolish the Federal Reserve. "We print the money." is what he said so he gets that we're not going under due to debt. We owe the fed Jews though.
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>>74500964
>le ad hominem xDDDDDDD

>>>/reddit/
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>>74502685
you realize that's an open border policy, right?
this might be hard for you to understand living on an island but

WE LIVE NEXT TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
Imagine if we moved Australia right next to India and said "nah chap just let the workers in you'll be right"
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>>74502481
>no one will ever lose faith in the dollar
>China isn't making moves to become a reserve currency

You're a retard
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>>74502430
See:
>>74502685
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>>74502709

>Cannabis
>more physical harm than GHB

wut
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>>74502799
>>WE LIVE NEXT TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
also, we live next to mexico which is equally as bad of a country
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>>74502709
That should have Crack seperated from Coke.
Crack has a 97% physical addiction rate.
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Johnson is the worst libertarian. He is basically a democrat
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>mfw Libertarians and Bernie will ruin Hillary
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>>74502799
Since when did work visas = open border.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING.
A SINGLE THING. I HAVE NO VIEWS ON THIS.
JUST. ONE. THIS. I'm in too deep.

Ill just go get bit by a spider I might be off my rocker.
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>>74502949
>>74502709

Fun fact:
As you can see from the chart, Cannabis is a type 2 drug.
However, THC is type 1 in both harm and dependence.
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>>74502673
wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmm23vJeu0A

The interest on the debt is entirely irrelevant.

>>74502738
We don't "owe" the FED shit

>>74502844
you have no idea what you're talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toW2oEhNZmk

The price of anything including currency is easily controlled by supply and demand.
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>>74502996
which is why this would work in trump's favor
he would never win the people who dislike trump the most: biblethumping godfearing republicans that vote solely on social issues. Johnson is worse than most dems on this for them.

>>74503061
you don't understand what you're discussing because you don't understand how poor mexico is and why it's a REALLY bad idea to give them work visas
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>>74503207
>>The interest on the debt is entirely irrelevant.
So why do we collect taxes then?
We should stop collecting all taxes, yes?
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>>74496451
based johnson helping trump win
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https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/730159933837049862

Uncuck libertarians
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>>74503230
Listen I think its a bad idea to, its still not an open border. Do you get the point yet?
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>>74496451
>Koch Brothers now funding "Libertarian" open borders candidate Gary Johnson in desperate attempt to Stump the Trump.

OR....
They're supporting the candidate that best aligns with their politics.
HOW DARE SOMEONE NOT GIVE MONEY TO DONALD TRUMP! Not like the Donald's a billionaire or anything, right?
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>>74503387
handing them out as many visas as they want is an open border
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>>74503287
>So why do we collect taxes then?

That's how you put a lid on inflation.

Good economy =raise taxes to temper inflation
Bad economy=lower taxes to increase inflation (production)

it's that simple.
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>>74503532
stop posting, krugman.
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What would you guys do if Ron Paul ran for and got the libertarian nomination? Would you choose Le Happening Man over Trump?
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>>74498046
>become
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>>74503472
I tried to help. I'll go shag a sheep now.
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>>74503572
Krugman and Bernake are wall street shills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3u9IqQo9aA

But there's no point in getting into that when you can't see reason.
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KEEP SPENDING WE DO IT FOR FREE
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>>74503588
he wouldn't, his son already endorsed trump
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>>74497629
This
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>>74503408
They know Johnson has no chance so this is just an effort to Stump Trump

Go back to Mexico now, faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwmhEw8LtP8
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>>74497051
it's too late cuck, trump has it in the bag pack your bags and move to mexico
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>>74503864
>They know Johnson has no chance so this is just an effort to Stump Trump
it would backfire heavily

libertarians fall in with the dems, it's the constitution party that would pull republicans
spoiler:
constitution party may not even have a candidate this year because virgil goode declined to run and endorsed Trump last November.
Their platforms are almost equal, btw. I'm sort of suspecting Goode might be his VP pick.
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>>74503864
Why should they support Trump?
Believe it or not, some men, real men, vote for who they think is right, not the lesser of two evils.

How DARE someone not support your toupeed hero?
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the free market is fixing it
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>>74504006
gary johnson is a leftist
if you think gary johnson is right you are the problem
>unironically falling for party labels
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>>74503408
They may as well cut the middle man and give straight to Hillary. It's less about Trump personally and more about how transparent they're making it that we never had two distinct parties in the first place.
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>>74504006
Oh I know they're leftist globalists who believe in open borders just like cuckboy Johnson

That's why they're trying to stop Trump, genius.
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>>74497051
Writhe some more. I'll cherish the memory of your suffering once you inevitably lie still and slain like all the other subhuman trash.
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>>74496451
that's not a bad thing at all. trump has a more fanatic following then the half-hearted "im voting hilldog so as not to vote for trump" camp
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>>74504123
>if you think gary johnson is right you are the problem
I never brought up left or right.
I'm telling your fool ass, that Gary Johnson aligns most with Koch beliefs. Period.

Also, Johnson is no leftist. You have to be pro-government to be a leftist.
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>libertarians who think flooding a white country with Latin socialist and Arab theocrats will lead to a democratically elected libeetarian governments

These peices of shit are unknowingly preventing the possibility of a libertarian government from ever happening
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>mfw shillbots think a far-left social candidate would steal votes from trump
you guys are fucking stupid

when I was younger I used to think hillary was an evil mastermind of sorts
now I realize she's just an idiot
>dangerous donald
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>>74503408

>defending the Koch brothers
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>>74496451
I don't see Gary Johnson drawing more from Trump than he would from Shillary
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>>74504481
see
>>74502100
>libertarians can't see past their nose to understand why their policies are retarded

libertarianism would never work because the country would be flooded with brown people that would vote for socialist policies and require all the libertarians to pay for them
>muh free market would fix it
>t-t-there's no welfare programs!
not yet
not until they vote to have them installed, dumbshits.
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>>74497777
Nice quads

Unfortunately, libertarianism has been coopted. Its a lot different than it was just 4 years ago during ron Paul's campaign.

Long story short, leftists infiltrated the ideology and now its a bunch of SJW faggots that only care about smoking weed and open borders. No more physical removals
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>>74504306
>the owner of the Miss
Universe pageant
>not a globalist
I like how you idiots thing Trump isn't global, despite that being where he got all his cash. Building and selling properties to foreign customers. That's what Donald Trump made his fortune doing.
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>>74502709

>cannabis is better than alcohol

Nice meme chart, turbofag.
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>>74496451
>Gary Johnson
Ayyy weed lmao!
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>>74504373
>Gary Johnson aligns most with Koch beliefs

Johnson and Shillary are identical on border control and just about every position relevant to the Cuch Brothers.

>you have to be pro-government to be a leftist.

>what are anarcho communists

kill yourself
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>>74504699
>Its a lot different than it was just 4 years ago during ron Paul's campaign.
ron paul is the posterchild paleolibertarian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolibertarianism

open borders is classic libertarianism aka muh free market will fix it
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>>74496451
Not real btw.
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>>74497127
And my axe
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>>74499439
Actually you were right. Unrestricted immigration == lower wages, more market competition. Most capitalist thing imaginable.

All communist countries had closed border policy with no immigration allowed.
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>>74504838
>what are anarcho communists
An impossibility. A direct contradiction. Hot ice. Hard air.
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>>74504768
>I don't know what glboalism is: THE POST

Globalism is "not" about beauty contests.

>>74504825
Then find a better chart, queerb8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse
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>>74504924
specifically, just read this part

>Paleolibertarianism developed in opposition to the social progressivism of mainstream libertarianism. In his essay "The Case for Paleo-Libertarianism", Rockwell charged mainstream libertarians with "hatred of western culture". He argued that "pornographic photography, 'free'-thinking, chaotic painting, atonal music, deconstructionist literature, Bauhaus architecture, and modernist films have nothing in common with the libertarian political agenda - no matter how much individual libertarians may revel in them." Of paleolibertarians, he wrote "we obey, and we ought to obey, traditions of manners and taste." After explaining why cultural conservatives could make a better argument for liberty to the middle classes, Rockwell predicted "in the new movement, libertarians who personify the present corruption will sink to their natural level, as will the Libertarian Party, which has been their diabolic pulpit
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>>74504629

The only small government people are whites on average

Asians have high enough IQ but lack the creativity to break free of big
government

Latins blacks and Arabs simply don't have high enough IQ on average to where they can get a majority of people who see the long term gains of a libertarian society

Gary John should know this. If he doesn't, he's a meme libertarian like Paul, or worse he knows it but he's a shill
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>>74504978
>All communist countries had closed border policy with no immigration allowed.
>communism
>closed border
good joke, do they not teach the communist manifesto anymore in your country?
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>>74504990
Or maybe you just don't understand politics because you're a teenager with raging libertarian autism who can only think in the most simplistic of dichotomies without being confused.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
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>>74504996
>Globalism is "not" about beauty contests.
No. Globalism is having an international corporation that builds properties for international/foreign customers, i.e. Donald Trump.
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>>74505117
>Globalism is having an international corporation that builds properties for international/foreign customers,
no
globalism is no borders, it's a tenant of communism you fucktard
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>>74503382
She's a good Canuck. Sorta spergy but alright.
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>>74505117
That's not what it is either

try again

TPP is a good example of globalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJUVEPaF44

A beauty pageant is not.
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>>74505085
The end of communism would mean no state, so no borders. I was talking about the "communist" countries which claimed communism as an idelogy, not about a theoretical perfect communist state.

But no one ever wanted to immigrate to a communist country except some deranged western leftists.
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>>74503588
Randlet is on the Trump train. He doesn't want Hillary to win, unlike many Libertarian holdouts.
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>>74505100
Communism itself is an impossibility, for to have communism means to allow any man into your home to use anything you have access to at any time whether you like it or not. For communism means you own NOTHING and have authority/control over NOTHING.
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>>74504958
Shouldnt u be practicing Scott?
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>>74496451
Why do jews always have to ruin everything?
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>>74505250
>>74505220
>it's not GLOBALISM when Trump does it
You faggots are unbelievable. Like when you start defending jews because Trump openly stands with Israel.

You'll shit on everything you believe in to support that guy, because you're his cuckolds.
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>>74505362
>Communism itself is an impossibility

Ok you're just too fucking stupid to exist at this point

>communism means you own NOTHING and have authority/control over NOTHING.

OMFG

are you like 13?

Communism= government control of the means of production which has happened in multiples countries now.

how do you not know something this basic?
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>>74505496
>doesn't understand the difference between trade and globalism
libertarians have autism.
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>>74505538
In the Cuba and SU government not only controlled the means of production, they also controlled all prices, what kind of car you can buy, what kind of home you can get, what school your kid get into and so on.
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>>74505496
Globalism is

>outsourcing
>open borders
>ceding political control to multinationals

Basically Globalism=TTP

Trump doesn't support any of that. You are talking out your (I assume teenage) ass.
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>>74497650
>Berniefags
>Libertarian
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>>74505538
The USSR wasn't communist. It was state-capitalism. The state owned the capital, but SHO'NUFF, there WAS an owner of the capital and thus there was capitalism.

>>74505556
The two are peas in a pod. Anyone with economic sense will tell you that.
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>>74505496
>Definition of globalism. : a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence — compare imperialism, internationalism.

>Globalism is anti-American in encouraging Americans to adopt a "world view" rather than an "American view." Liberals support globalism because it leads to centralized power, thereby providing liberals with an easier way to gain control.
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>>74498010
Horrible Hillary.

Is that you, Donald?
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>>74505760
>Trump doesn't support any of that.
Trump supports it by outsourcing US property to foreign buyers.
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>>74505893
kek

wat a fag
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>>74505893
>The state owned the capital,

Which is what made it communism you stupid nigger

>>74506103
>outsourcing "property"

fuck's sake
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>>74498010
Democrats don't vote on social issues. They vote on gibs. Are you sure this poll doesn't have a conservative slant?
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>>74504559
Republicans will hear Open Borders and say nope and just ignore everything else he says.

Democrats will hear Open Borders, Pro-Choice, Legal Weed, Gay Rights, Tranny Rights and flock to him. Johnson will draw all the Bernouts his way taking a huge chunk of Democratic voters.
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>>74497127
Libertarian for Trump checking in
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>>74497769
>4 years
How many times has a sitting president been given the boot?
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>>74506231
Democratic voters vote based on whoever seems the nicest.
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>>74506183
>Which is what made it communism you stupid nigger
It's not communism. If it were communism, the capital would have been equally owned by the people. The people owned NOTHING however. The Party owned everything.

Actual communism is not possible since actual communism means you mush share your house, tools, wife, etc with every other person at their whim.

Also, Trump developed and sold property in the US to foreign buyers. That is an undeniable fact. It's where he got his money.
He's playing you for a retard because you're angry and scared, out of your mind with fear for the future, and an easy mark to get votes from.

That's how politics works. You're a useful idiot to people seeking power.
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>>74505100
It is contradictory. Yes, you can discuss it in theory, but basic human nature and economic principles prevent it fro ever being a thing.

You cannt have communal ownership of property on a large scale without a strong authoritarian government to enforce it.
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>>74506322
This.
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>>74506298
Delicate balance then if he siphons off Bernie's weed burnouts who are basically Never Hillary.
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>>74506543
>the capital would have been equally owned by the people.

communism=government ownership of the means of production

you really are too dumb to live

>>74506551
>it's stupid so it isn't leftist
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