>my wife's son of god
An entire religion based around cuckholdry
>>74450526
Not exactly.
In iconography Joseph is always pictured turned away from the scene, because he had scriptural doubts of Jesus' conception.
(Obviously- any sane man would. That's why it took dreams, jumping fetuses, an elderly Jewish prophet, and literal miracles to convince him)
>>74450526
God didn't fuck marry, just gave her a son.
God also said it was Joseph's son, and Mary is still his wife.
Mary didn't chose it. She was chosen.
>>74450932
ATHEISTS BTFO
OP CONFIRMED AN ATHEIKEK
THEY'LL NEVER RECOVER
>>74450932
>rape is okay if God does it
>>74451174
You'd refuse sex from god..?
I'd be happy with a handy
>>74450932
That sounds like the kind of logic I would tell a guy to convince him to spend his life and money raising the son I had with his wife while I go chill and find more women.
If I were a degenerate. Or demiurge.
>>74450526
Jebus has brothers and sisters.
So...
Based Joe the Carpenter gets to fuck pussy sweet enough for God hisself.
>>74450932
Best post. Atheist I know you're rattled about having evolution and all your pet theories destroyed in recent years but stop trying to start a theological discussion when you only know memes.
>mary fucks around with another dude
>get pregnant
>dreams up a good story about it being the son of god and tells her husband
>husband is a beta orbiter so he believes it 100%
>couple goes around telling everyone
honestly how big is the chance that this is really what happened?
>>74452435
Pretty clearly what happened imo.
>>74452435
Very unlikely. Christ fulfilled over 300 prophecies and most of them he had no choice over in his life.
>>74452435
Pretty hard considering that Jesus was a descendant of David through Mary AND the rightful heir to the kings theone through Joseph's line. If he was indeed someone else's son, he would not have been eligible in the second account and could not have fulfilled old testament prophecy.
>>74450526
I know this is a bait thread, but still...
you are missing a point and are uneducated in christian theology
Joseph has accepted something that was considered shameful and negative in society because God told him so
it's a message that says you should do what's right even if the society thinks you're a moron and a cuck
isn't that exactly what pol's been doing?
>>74452583
Can you list them?
>>74452583
How many prophecies were there?
>>74450526
they bow to a magic jew and they dont see the irony in it
>>74452209
hahahahaha you cant make this shit up. hashtag cucklife
>>74452435
Pretty sure Life of Brian is closer to reality than he Bible
>>74452639
Yeah. His virgin birth was a requirement. Considering he filled all the other hundreds of requirements to be the First Coming of the Messiah, he certainly fits the bill.
As much as anyone would love to deny that God exists and has a plan for this world. Yeshua Christ is hard to ignore. He changed the whole world pretty much, the gospel has reached just about every place on here, and it certainly has reached the 4 corners of the world now.
That doesn't mean that people believed and now we're beholden to provide more evidence in this age but this is good for us too.
>>74452770
>>74452729
http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html
If you're actually curious I suggest downloading the Blue Letter Bible or Bible Sword and using the concordance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIrZZHC27QQ
Just a quick incomplete overview of what people around His time thought about his miracles and such.
>>74450526
>Jesus prayed to God - everywhere in the Bible
Why would God pray to God?
Checkmate Trinitarians
now kys and follow the true belief of Monotheism, not some roman inspired paganism
>>74450932
>>74451002
>>74452302
Trinityfags as well as many other cuck-christians still believe that Jesus is the Son of God, or is God himself
>>74453081
The continents broke up after the flood. It was one giant continent. If you're interested in this go read stuff at creationwiki or creation.com, plenty of explanations that fit the data we have and what the Biblical Hebrew says.
Plus you're ignoring that Yehovah could of just teleported them.
>>74452992
Although I'm a practicing Lutheran, don't you think there's a possibility that Aliens are doing with us what we're doing to the remote tribes in Amazon and Southeast Asia? What if most of what happened is real (as you mentioned, the undeniable fact that Yeshua is the Messiah), but caused by extraterrestrial life forms to study our religious behavior overtime?
I can believe in all that, which I do, I just can't believe in magic at all.
>>74453081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea
Here.
>>74453189
John 8:58
>Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Matthew 15:9King James Version (KJV)
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7%3A7-13&version=KJV
Jesus Christ is the Word. He is and always has been. The Word is God. He was in the beginning with God and was God.
>>74453200
>one giant continent
And? Would still be a massive distance to travel
>>74453379
>and it began to break apart about 175 million years ago
But I though the Earth was 6000 years old?
>>74450932
>God didn't fuck marry, just gave her a son.
>jamal didnt fuck my wife, just gave her a son
>Mary didn't chose it. She was chosen.
so mary was raped by god and cuck joseph raised the kid? lmao
>>74453204
I can't really believe that honestly because of the good fruits of having a relationship with Yeshua and Yehovah, and the Holy Spirit.
He didn't lie even once in the Bible, and a good close study of the Bible reveals a Trinity of God which has worked in unison together as One, and there is only One God.
If you want to believe in a malevolent force in the world. You can look toward the serpent and his fallen angels who have no love in them and have corrupted the world. Not to even mention the different kinds of Nephilim mentioned in the Bible.
>>74453489
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System
No matter how much you want to ridicule beliefs of some dumb American protestants, it won't change the contents of the bible.
>>74453489
Ah I see. You're that guy. Ignore 90% of the post without addressing the rest.
>>74453489
Now you're just trolling. Yes the world is approximately 6500 years old, and yes if you actually looked at the data and how dating was done you'd understand why we believe so. Its not just because the Bible said so.
>>74453638
Go find a single star ever being born.
>>74453638
>it won't change the contents of the bible.
Such as all of these contradictions? http://bibviz.com/
>>74453762
>teleported
Evidence?
>plenty of explanations that fit the data
So you don't have a single answer? Just speculations?
>>74453762
But the Earth is 4.543 billion years old. This age has evidence other than a book full of contradictions and scientific illiteracy.
>>74454020
>4.543 billion years old.
lol
I'd entertain you but if you're actually interested just go read creationwiki and creation.com.
>>74454020
Your precious koran has more contradictions than Bible ever will, Mehmet.
>>74454134
Little does he know there are no contradictions.
I'd suggest watching Chuck Misslers 24 hours on the Bible.
>>74454132
>6500 years old
lol
I'd entertain you but if you're actually interested just go and do a few basic science lessons or Google searches
>>74454134
>being a mudslime
>>74454020
>This age has evidence other than a book full of contradictions and scientific illiteracy.
If it weren't for the Bible and Christianity, you'd still be wiping your ass with your hand in a cave.
>>74450932
>>74453532
>>74452302
>Joseph's son
>Mary was a virgin
>Son not from Joseph's sperm
If this isn't cuckoldry, I don't know what is.
Christfags will defend this.
>>74454338
And how do you know that? Because some scientists identified as Christians? They only believed because there was no other reasonable explanation at the time, and a lack of technology to come up with a reasonable explanation.
Fucking whore jew kike.
>>74454229
I already do.
Did you know we found blood and tendons in dinosaur bones?
Radiological dating is a crackpot by the way. Its been shown many times to be not at all useful for dating anything. Even when you know the source material was just made. It requires an isolated system with a stable pressure and temperature to be semi-accurate and we've never had that on earth. Plus anyone could date a banana to be millions of years old if they used the heavy metals in it. It all depends on the date you "want" to come out. Like a lottery machine. Choose the big number or the small number system based on what you want. Carbon 14 levels that date to 6000~ years have been found in the deepest layer of crust and all geologist know that they're simply ignoring that it appears all layers were laid down on the same day. I.E Global Flood.
The lack of any transitional fossils in the record at all is a constant headache and so is the lack of observation of any new information in genetics but only loss or mutation.
There is a lot of information out there saying Evolution and a Long Age is not reasonable.
>>74454365
>cuckoldry: An act of adultery committed by a married woman against her husband
>adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse.
>sexual
Mary did not have sex with anyone. Besides, Joseph already had kids at that point and was a widower. He was trusted to be the guardian of Mary who was a consecrated virgin of the Lord.
>>74454867
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
So all of this work done by scientists (people smarter than you) is wrong?
>Be ancient tribe in Cnaan who didn't even understand how weather and rain works
>Invent some tribal religion with both copied stories and oc because that what people did back then.
>then some asshole makes up a story about a savior who will come back soon.
>2000 years later he still didn't come
>mean while people have to jump through hoops to explain how a world wide flood happened because they can't take a hint.
>>74450700
How did you learn that
>>74454709
Really... You do seem offended at the thought you might of accepted a big lie.
Also where is that Single Star Birth I've asked for?
Just block the sutra senpai.
>>74455069
its called reading
I'm prob sure these things can't be learned in 90% of the schools in the anglosphere though
>>74455024
Pretty much. They know what they're doing and they know they're just ignoring that they could select for a much smaller date within the range of 10,000 years if the took into account at the observable rates of land erosion via water. Its not hard to figure out why they might have an agenda to ignore obvious data.
>>74455088
http://phys.org/news/2010-06-astronomers-witness-star-born.html
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/astronomers-witness-birth-of-milky-ways-most-massive-star
You didn't ask me, but whatever. I can use Google unlike some.
>>74454709
>at the time
How come over 50% of scientists today still believe in God if you've all the answers to life?
>>74455050
I mean the creator of all existence has name?
no one thought this was odd?
VIRGIN mary
>>74455050
>>74455237
Trying to spread degeneracy to gentiles again, Schlomo? Go back to your synagogue.
>>74455237
And he needs us to cut part of our dick?
Was he taking the piss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuSHz7uOv4 - Carl Baugh Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_5o4WGPzqE - David Lines Interview - Many more interviews on that channel.
Well I've gotta go but I'll leave you with this and... this.
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
>>74455226
>However, its density is high enough that it is ejecting streams of matter from itself
Okay then. Sounds like its already formed and might actually be falling apart.
I shouldn't have to explain why if star birth was happening we should see all stages of it everywhere we look. Yet here we have something that already has a core and is simply jettisoning extra material just like a black hole does.
>>74455227
?
Maybe if you count social """science"""
Which type of Christian are you anyway? Are all the rest wrong?
>>74455420
>I told em to cut their dicks
>AND THEY ACTUALLY DID IT
>>74452209
>Joe the Carpenter gets to fuck pussy sweet enough for God hisself.
I've never thought of it that way, but it's true.
>>74454338
>>74455547
>>74455385
He got crucified and that somehow saves your soul?
First he doesn't you to eat pigs but then he doesn't care?
He used to do miracles no problem but he ran out of magic?
>>74455693
don't you fucking understand anything you fucking retard
magic has a cd to balance it
>>74455385
>WE WUZ JEWZ AND SHEEIT
>>74453081
>Not feeling very bright?
>Smile, and remember:
>There are grown adults with such a poor knowledge of geography that they actually believe that a penguin can fucking walk from Antarctica to the Middle East.
>>74450526
really makes you think
>Slavery is ok if you don't them too hard
>He want to help some army chase another army so he stopped the sun
He tried help some army win but failed because they had iron chariots
>>74455385
>>74455524
>Which type of Christian
Roman Catholicism, the original church founded by Lord Jesus in 33 AD.
>Are all the rest wrong?
I belong to the original Christian church, but you and I have equal chances for salvation.
>>74455024
>>74455088
i cant tell whos trolling who
>>74455292
"virgin" mary, god got cucked. that's why it was possible for yeshwa to die.
He banished the first humans from a place that is no where to be found
>>74455948
>I belong to the original Christian church
no you don't, and even if you did so what?
>>74455948
So Jesus founded a religion around himself? Sounds like a entitled prat.
He wanted to check if some guy really is good and just so he killed his family.
>>74454020
>that pic
Not a Christfag but, if we're going to accept the existence of Heaven, getting murdered is a huge favor
>go directly to an eternal Paradise, to dwell in glory forever basking in the loving personal presence of the All-Creator of the Universe
>don't have to experience decades of frustration, pain, sickness, and heartbreak, culminating in a slow lingering death
Why would you even be mad
>>74456110
just a local news event about some jew faggot dying then 50 years later someone necrothreads it and it becomes a meme.
nice
>18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ[a] took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed[b] to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. 19 And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. 20 But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”
tl;dr Joseph thought he had been cucked and was going to throw Mary to the kerb but then God told him not to.
Concrete proof that Jesus was white.
>>74455176
You dont actually believe earth is 6,000 years old, do you? If you do I reccomend taking a biology course via your local community college, also maybe provide sources on your claims that scientists have found carbon 14 dating to 6,000~ in the deepest layer of crust. If you honestly believe without any doubt that planet earth is 6,000 years old, you are completely delusional
>>74455955
If that pic is true then why did pagans get BTFO by christians
>>74455581
>>74455679
>>74455687
>>74455756
>>74455753
>>74455912
>>74455774
>>74455848
>>74455896
Degeneracy police in full force.
>>74455693
>He got crucified and that somehow saves your soul?
>John 15:13 - Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
By dying for us he liberated us from sin. His blood is like a payment for human sins.
>>74456246
Good point.
>>74455757
kek
>>74456405
is truth based on numbers?
>>74456415
>u mad?
>bald assertion
>lmao dude
>bald assertion
>verse
average christshitposter
>>74456452
>implying they don't coexist
Maybe that's the case back in Pakistan, Ahmed. However, some of the greatest discoveries were made by Christians.
>>74456564
and?
>>74456564
Like I said before they were most likely Religious because there wasn't enough technology to make a valid argument at the time. Modern scientists are mostly non religious.
>>74456246
>>go directly to an eternal Paradise
It's not said in Scripture that you go there directly.
Some theologians have argued that Paradise and Hell should remain empty until the Last Judgment, because it would be absurd for God to judge the same person twice. Also because the resurrection of the bodies only happens at the Last Judgment, and that Heaven or Hell without a body ain't really Heaven or Hell.
>>74456564
>However, some of the greatest discoveries were made by Christians.
I'd love to see the religious methodology they used to find their discoveries. Did they use equivalent exchange with some shapes and pentagrams?
Oh right, they used the scientific method to discover that and not a politically infused culture meme with ritual practice and superstition.
>>74451174
Holy fuck where is this from?
>>74456564
Sure. Back in ye olden days when everyone was a christian.
>>74456415
>Sure i believe what was taught to me from birth.
>But i also thought about it objectively and it happened to be the right religion.
>>74456868
lots of people beleive what hey were taught from birth to be the objectively right religion though why are they wrong and you right?
>>74450526
let's not forget that Muslims also believe in the immaculate conception (in fact they also believe that Mary herself was conceived in such a way)
So both Islam and Christianity believe their messiah (and yes, Jesus is the Messiah according to Muslims as well, Muhammad is the last prophet, but Jesus is the Messiah) is the result of cuckoldry.
>>74455955
http://www.archaeology.wyjs.org.uk/vikingweb/religionanglo.htm
you pagans got cucked by Christianity
>>74457200
Because the common theme in all religion is magical deities or some sort of miracles and we still haven't found any proofs of those things.
What we do know is that man is very comfortable with making stuff up.
The logical conclusion is to assume all magic gods and religon false until we see magic.
>>74457643
>you pagans
implying you huge faggot
Can somebody please explain to me who exactly originally made the claim that Mary was actually a virgin?
>>74457730
wait are you agnostic or theist?
>>74457781
probably Mary herself, when she wound up Pregnant before Joseph ever touched her.
>I-it was God I swear I'm still a virgin!
>>74457979
atheist?
>>74458306
my bad im a spaz who cant read
>>74453762
>Yes the world is approximately 6500 years old
I'm not taking this bait.
wow. People actually believe the earth is 6k years old and in that time there was a supercontinent which broke up into today's continents? The kinetic energy involved alone would melt the crust to a boiling pot of hell... Holy shit people are dumb.
Can any christian please answer this problem? When I still was a christian (yes I'm going to hell or whatever some of you guys believe) I believed what Christ did was an act of mercy (taking our place on the cross), but also an act of justice (god must act justly, the punishment for sin is death).
However. God punishing another for our sins is not mercy, as someone gets punished (mercy means no punishment). Neither is it justice, as the perpetrator is not getting punished, but an innocent person is...
Precisely how does a christian reconcile this fact?
>>74451462
>image
Toppest of keks
>>74452694
>joseph accepted his role as a cuck because god bullied him into it
How's that any better?
>>74453189
Well, 'God' is split into 3 portions, sort of like a family, but he is one being. There's God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. God is essentially love, and the bond between the Father and Jesus is complete, unfailing, perfect love and relation. The holy spirit is a physical outpouring of their loving relationship with everything. Its like this: You may act differently alone, but generally youre still pretty nice and fun to be around. You have a very good friend, and when he is alone he is fun and very kind to everyone. When you and your good friend hang out together, you both act differently than you do individually alone. Jesus was also in the flesh down here on earth, while God the Father remained in heaven with the Holy Spirit, so technically Jesus could still pray to the Father.
>>74461617
Does God fuck himself to express his love for himself?
>>74455420
It's meant to be a physical sign that those who are circumcised are different from the rest of the world. Also, some believe it was to prevent masturbation as God may see masturbating as a sin, Im pretty sure God views masturbating as a sin since sex should be a gift between you and your spouse, and you and your spouse only. However, there are some christians who believe that masturbating is okay, but I lean towards the side that it is a sin more than the other.
>"XD CHRISTIANITY IS C UCK"
>"XD JESUS WAS JEWISH XD"
>"NOAHS ARK IS SO UNSCIENTIFIC AN ALL-POWERFUL BEING COULD NEVER SAVE ALL THE ANIMALS"
>"GOD IS SO MEAAAAAAN"
Why are non-christian arguments so weak?
>>74455693
Your first question: When he was crucified, he took all sins of humanity, both from the present, future, and the past, and took them with him into hell where he retrieved the "keys" to heaven that would allow everyone who accepted him as their saviour passage into heaven. He lived a perfect, sinless life and was the atoning sacrifice for sinners, taking all the punishment they should have received with him. Then he rose from hell, leaving the sins he once bore in hell, and freed all the christians who had died before his crucifixion since they had no salvation/savior yet (the christians weren't in hell straight up, but what the bible calls "Abraham's bosom," which from what I can infer, was a sort of temporary purgatory where no pain was, but no presence of God was there either. Keep in mind though, that God and all his doings are bound to the concept of time that we are, and our human brains are incapable of comprehending some things.
>>74450526
If God wanted a son couldn't he have made him out of dust? Or got a wife of his own? Why'd he have to knock up another guy's wife?
>>74462880
because god is alpha as fuck
>>74455693
Oh whoops, forgot to answer your other 2 questions.
For your 2nd question: he forbid the jews and christians from eating certain things because he deemed them unclean and soiled animals. Even demons could possess some animals, Jesus cast demons out of one man who was possessed by many (this possessed guy even called himself legion and could friggin' break out of chains with his bare friggin' hands dude) and cast them into pigs, the demons went ape-shit and then ran off a cliff into the ocean, presumably killing the pigs and releasing the demons/sending them back to hell.
God 'doesn't care," about what christians eat now because the laws which forbid christians from eating certain animals and doing certain things were Old Testament laws. The Old testament laws were created to show christians /everyone that they cant follow any laws on their own and need a savior. As I like to say, you can't tell someone where to go to be on track until you show them how lost they are. When Jesus was crucified, his blood made a new covenant and replaced the Old Testament laws, disregarding these old laws completely, and now saying that anyone who believes in Jesus as lord and savior would become a christian and be saved. Jesus made a blood covenant, a bond/relationship that was more than and stronger than the Old testament laws which were just written down as God instructed his people to do.
For your 3rd question: he did do miracles, and no he did not run out of "magic." He did miracles as needed and to show/convince people that he was indeed the son of God and the savior of the world/promised messiah for the christians. Im guessing that when you say "ran out of magic," you referring to when he was crucified/appeared helpless. He wasn't helpless, but needed to be crucified in order to fully save mankind. If he miraculously freed himself, and went 'God-mode' for lack of better terms, the sins of men would not be taken into hell, and mankind would still be condemned to hell.
>>74450526
christianity is THE defacto KEKOLD religion
>>74462880
Because gawd is a nigger.
>knocks up married woman
>bails
>Joseph gets cucked by his wifes pet nigger
>kid acts like an untitled, unruly little faggot
>"WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEEIT!"
>gets Trayvonned
>"HE A GUT BOI HE DIN DU NUFFIN!"
Niggers and cucks, the whole lot.
>>74450932
still doesn't change the fact that this shit started with a woman telling a man that god did it
religion's great and all, if I could snap my fingers and make the whole country unite under Christianity I'd do it for the sheer practicality, but come on now.
>>74463863
*entitled
>>74456769
Well, the Bible does say that when youre sent into heaven, you get a new body. You still will look like you i guess, but maybe younger and peak physical form/shape shape I suppose? Not too sure about hell though, im sure it sucks though since hell is the complete absence of God, and therefore, everything joyful, happy, and loving.
>>74450526
kek. It all makes sense now.
>>74452209
Both of these are actually wrong according to Catholic Tradition
Any Biblical scholar would tell you that any mention of Jesus' "brothers" actually meant cousins because the words for both were the same originally
>>74456415
>Jewish religion
>Not full retard levels of degeneracy
Pick one, crosscuck.
>>74457730
Well, there is some pretty neat stuff. For instance, the Bible says that there was the huge star over Bethlehem that pointed to Jesus when he was born. Scientist/astronomists have used their technology and backtracked to the time that supposedly Jesus was born in, and for I think it was one month from what I can recall, a bunch of stars/planets in their orbits lined up just right with each other and the earth's rotation so that the planets/stars seemed like one huge star. Kinda neat, google it a little more I suppose though.
>>74452694
Exactly
Most of /pol/ doesn't get the concept of accepting shame or experiencing voluntary self-sacrifice though
>>74459001
if the continent split into plates over time and broke off in spaced-out times, theoretically, couldnt they still have formed the continents we know today?
>>74464742
Arrogant, smug, presumptuous cuck.
>>74459296
I believe God had Jesus crucified/punished as you say because as you probably know Jesus took all of mankind's sins onto him. Im pretty sure that the Bible says God turned his sight away from Jesus at the time of his crucifixion.
God was also having mercy on humans (his creation) by crucifying his only son so that all of us could be with him for eternity instead of in hell, eternally separated from him. Hope this helped you a little.
>ITT: Christians defending this
>>74462260
>Why are non-christian arguments so weak?
Seriously? NON-christian arguments are weak? Literally your only arguments are screaming LARP or MUH HAT!!
Let's break this bullshit down now, k?
>"XD CHRISTIANITY IS C UCK"
Christianity gave us egalitarianism and jew-worship. You are literally a European worshipping a semitic god, while profaning your own ancestors - yes, believe it or not, your ancestry goes back more than 1500 years.
>"XD JESUS WAS JEWISH XD"
He was. He was called "rabbi" in the bible and commanded people to keep kosher. Try cracking a bible for once.
>"NOAHS ARK IS SO UNSCIENTIFIC AN ALL-POWERFUL BEING COULD NEVER SAVE ALL THE ANIMALS"
This is retard-level argumentation. HURR Superman is so unscientific! A Kryptonian could never breath ice! Let's also not forget that the story of Noah and the flood was blatantly ripped off from the Epic of Gilgamesh by kikes and they even deleted details and got the story wrong.
>"GOD IS SO MEAAAAAAN"
The god of the kikes is a literally evil sociopath. Serial killers have better morality. And YES, that does kind of fucking matter in a religion, you fucking muslim.
>>74452435
Makes more sense than anything else in the bible
Virgin births are scientifically possible. That's what the whole religion is gambling on.
>>74461777
....No.
also, not sure if bait or not
>>74450526
CHRISTKEKS BTFO
>literally the cuck religion
They even kiss nigger feet now.
serious talk:
christianity was invented by the jews
the jews wanted to cuck white people
what better way to cuck whites than to invent a religion based on cuckoldry?
>>74462880
Well, he sort of had to in order to fulfill the prophecy from a large amount of years beforehand and to show that this birth of the messiah was unlike any other in that Mary was a virgin yet would still get pregnant and give birth. Also, they weren't married completely at the time of Jesus' conception.
>>74456483
These days? Yes.
Come to think of it, most days yes.
>>74465155
Completely pointless and melodramatic. If God wanted to be more lenient and let more people in heaven he could have just made a pamphlet.
>>74465208
Well God isnt necessarily a sociopath, its just that sin and imperfectness cant be in his presence of absolute holiness and perfectness. Literally, sin gets "killed" and thrown away when it comes within close contact to God.
>>74465744
The jewish god is fine with child rape, slavery and genocide for totally arbitrary reasons. That god is in no fucking position to be telling people what is moral and what isn't.
>>74454897
>Joseph was expected to spend all his time, money, and effort on Mary without having sex with her
Holy fuck, my sides.
>>74465888
Back then, I do believe most people were married and had sex within marriage at a young age, even the egyptians and other portions of the world were okay with it. The slavery and genocide parts you speak of were either for the punishment of the people straying from God and not believing/following him.
Keep in mind that also God was a heck of a lot harsher back in the Old Testament since no savior (Jesus) had come yet to make the new covenant for all people.
>>74465155
That's not mercy, that's scapegoating. Someone still gets the punishment, just not you or me. Again, not mercy.
>>74466349
I don't give a flying shit about your apologetics, kike. Why should I obey a god who's morality is significantly inferior to my own? Am I supposed to pick up muti next?
>>74465255
>Virgin births are scientifically possible
No it's not, artificial insemination/IVF are very possible.
>>74465744
>its just that sin and imperfectness
Why would he even create sinful imperfect things then? This is stupid.
>>74465744
what exactly is this 'sin' you speak of. Other than as a religious concept it cannot be shown to exist.
>>74465697
Maybe, but then again a pamphlet wouldn't be enough to pay for all of mankind's past, present, and future sins. A sacrifice without defect/blemish (Jesus) was needed to allow sinful humans into heaven since their sins needed to be cast away. Also, Jesus, God's only son, being sacrificed for humans (who had completely disowned and turned away from God and some who even straight up hated him) shows how much God loves people and how far he is willing to go to save them.
>>74466580
>A sacrifice
How is it a sacrifice when he just rezzed a couple days later? For a sacrifice you lose something, you give something up. This sacrifice is as hollow as putting a coin with a string on in a vending machine.
>>74466526
>what exactly is this 'sin' you speak of.
Whatever the jew of the time a "book" was written didn't like.
>>74466413
I kinda agree with you, though if you look at it, the sacrifice of one perfect human to save countless other humans who were just too ignorant and who didn't know they wanted to be saved is a better option than eternally condemning the countless sinful humans and saving one human/Jesus. God IS having mercy on humans in this scenario however by not having them take the punishment.
God and Jesus also knew that Jesus would and could rise from the dead and escape Hell, living again with God in heaven and at the same time allowing all humans passage into heaven.
>>74453081
penguins can swim
>>74466516
Well, I do question why God would allow sin and imperfect things to exist/be created, but sin did enter the world when Adam and Eve at from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Why God placed that tree in the garden of Eden is beyond me, but imo it was so that humans could have free will and love God in a closer relationship. Think about it, would you feel more loved by a bunch of autonomous robots you made, or by people who have the choice to leave you, but instead choose to love you?
>>74466580
It is only so because the god in your story says it must be so. There is absolutely no objective reason to assume it is in fact so (i.e. the perfect sacrifice, etc. etc.). Human flaws are limited, yet supposedly it warrants an unlimited punishment. There is no justice in that. It's just blackmail from a supposed creator or whatever.
>>74466821
So Jesus wasn't punished equally as humans would've been then? Jesus became as sin before god (hence god couldn't look at him, etc. etc.). Yet even with all the sin in the world laid upon Jesus he could return after three days. That's not exactly taking up our punishment is it??
So either Jesus didn't have to take our full punishment (eternal death or seperation from god, depending on what you believe) or humans would also be reunited after three days (or less, as one human's sins is less than the world's).
>>74466526
Sin would be any defiling of God's image and hope for the world and us (ie. God made humans in his image, killing humans who may not ahve had the chance to receive Jesus and a chance to enter heaven is destroying God's image, God wants humans to only have sex within marriage with a spouse going around banging every person on the block is having sex with more than one spouse you were supposed to be devoted to, the list goes on...)
>>74450932
How can you tell he didnt fuck her? As far as we know he might have fucked her in her hary ass.
>>74467253
You claim god wants a lot of stuff.... Yet all there is is a book written by humans that claim god wants a lot of stuff. Have you considered the idea that the bible is the claim and not the evidence?
>>74466743
It's a sacrifice in that Jesus suffered immensely when being crucified and experience the horrors of going into hell. Jesus could have just stayed in heaven in a perfect world, but decided to come down into this broken world separated from God, live a perfect life, only to be killed by those he came to save.
>>74453081
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/magellanic-penguins-floating-on-water-antarctica-stock-video-footage/146449350
atheist are literally stupid as shit
>>74467035
I do see where youre coming from, and some things I genuinely dont know on my own, but I still have faith that God knows what hes doing, so I follow him. Human flaws would be sin I suppose, and sin is sin, someone who kills another person will get the same punishment in hell as a person who merely lied or another person who had sex outside of marriage/with someone other than their spouse. Sin is sin. But, by accepting the same thing (that Jesus is the savior and god exists etc.) anyone, no matter how 'severe" their sin is perceived by us, can enter heaven and live in eternal perfectness with God.
>>74452302
>>74450932
>Raising someone who is not your child
Literally the definition of a cuck
>>74467586
>The story of Noah is actual history (let's still ignore it's not even original and was just ripped off from someone else)
>Hurr why are atheists stupid?
Gott damn boy.
>>74467586
Okay so the penguins swam thousands of kilometres to get to an ark so they don't drown.
>>74467586
The ark was supposedly built deep inland, hence Noah was ridiculed. Man, don't you even know your own myths? Besides, you should ask god's forgiveness as ridiculing another puts you in danger of hell as per Matthew 5:22
>>74467757
Yes, but what about the koalas. The one that cracks me up the most are the freshwater fish because christians are so bad at biology, they don't even understand why this would be a problem.
>>74467586
>>74467013
Would still mean they travelled literally thousands of kilometers
>>74467242
Yes, Jesus was able to "escape," for lack of better terms, from the full punishment we would have experienced since Jesus is part of the God-head and is all-powerful, he could escape from what we wouldn't have been able to escape. So in a way, he didn't get the "full-deal" but I doubt all of us would be crucified before dying, the majority of the punishment is being in hell.
>>74450932
This is how cucks rationalize cucking.
>>74467403
If Jesus doesn't stay in hell FOREVER, how does he pay for my sin? The sentence of my sin is to dwell in hell forever. Christian morality is like a court run by the mob - my sentence is pretty steep, but if I give tribute to the Judge's son, I get off and he gets a light, 3 day sentence. Bullshit.
>>74454709
please nigger where is the rest of the world ? where are the indians with their science where are the muslims or the chinese, no it all came from christfag europe
>>74450700
Jumping fetuses? What
>>74451174
fucking kek
>>74455385
>>74454134
Not an argument
>>74462685
>Your first question: When he was crucified, he took all sins of humanity, both from the present, future, and the past
What's the fucking point? Why did he have to be crucified? Couldn't god just wave his magic wand?
>>74467359
The book was written by humans, yes, but they were being instructed on what to write by God and the Holy Spirit. God wants us to live in his perfect image, but he also gave us free will. We can choose via free will to not follow his image. God wants us to follow it, but he wont force us.
>>74454020
That picture prices you know nothing of the bible, English faggot.
YOU CAN'T GET INTO HEAVEN IF YOU MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE.
It's a mortal sin, YOU GO STRAIGHT TO HELL NO MATTER WHAT.
Stupid argument.
>>74468036
Jesus didnt really "pay" for sin, but rather he took it upon himself, brought it with him into hell, and left it there in hell then rose from hell back to life and eventually back into heaven.
>>74456560
The books Luther removed weren't scripture, they were written later and added by the Catholic Church.
>>74464500
Joseph and Mary had children you stupid nigger. That makes them Jesus' siblings in a literal sense. Jesus was the Word made flesh. He was a man. Mary's other children could be said to be his brothers and sisters, as they both came out of the same womb. Half-brothers and half-sisters, I guess.
>>74468446
Picture wasn't intended as an argument. It always triggers retards like you. American faggot
>>74455050
>he still didn't come
he did
>>74468446
Paul murdered innocent people
Are you saying that he's going to hell?
>>74455693
>someone comes back from the dead
>enough people witness this
>thousands of years later a jewish pig demon posts pig pictures to carry on his ancestors buttthurt over this fact
keep calm and divine art friends
>>74468404
Yeah, he could have just thrown all sin aside, but as I said before, by sacrificing his only son, he showed how much he loves us and how far he would go to save us. By just going "abra-kadabra your sin is gone youre cool now," God wouldnt have seemed as loving towards as much as he would have appeared strong. I can't exactly think of a good analogy for this right now, but as I also said before, Im just one person and have my limits of knowledge/understanding. Hopefully this one will do for the time being. Its kinda like this: A father's son gets in trouble and the son's punishment is to be sent to prison forever. Instead of the son going to prison forever, the father goes in his place and doesn't just wait out his sentence, but works the hours and toils until his sentence is paid, he put a lot more work than he would have if he were to just pay bail money for his son.
>>74462880
because he needed a story to tell ,if he just made jesus out of dust there was no story to tell and there was nothing to confirm
cuck my shit up BC
>>74464876
If a piece of the earth's crust, say, North America with a surface area of 25 million km2 and a depth of 35km would have, say 900 million kubic kilometer moves at 1m/sec and needs to come to a stop, you'd have to dissipate 2*10^21 joules of energy just for North America. Or in US's imperial system...: enough to boil over 2 billion olympic sized swimming pools
>>74453489
>>74469469
And how do you know that is what is meant?
>>74450932
>God didn't fuck marry, just gave her a son.
Sperm injection? Why the fuck would Joe agree to it unless he was infertile cuck?
>>74468446
But didn't jesus die for our sins? teeheee. The bible only mentions one unforgivable sin: mocking the holy spirit. Because he's a pussy who can't take a joke. Kinda like Donald Trump. Is Trump the Holy Spirit? :O
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>>74467889
penguins can swim and float why the hell do they need to be on he boat ?
>>74450526
I like how people who have clearly never even read the bible in passing try to make this joke on /pol/. It's actually hilarious that you think this isn't addressed in the fucking book, that you're somehow the only people to have figured out the cuck accusation.
>>74470113
Because the oceans would've been boiling from all the moving continents beneath.
>>74469711
Because I'm a Christian.
This is not a scientific answer which you can verify through a microscope or with a computer. But I'm not going to apologize for it. You are in dire need of salvation, and you have no idea how bad it's going to be for you to be without Jesus Christ.
However, fortunately for the world, God is willing to forgive if you accept His Son, a gift to us.
Read until the end of revelation.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?version=KJV&search=Matthew%201
>>74469711
Simply because any interpretation of Christianity which reinforces a Christian's beliefs, whether correct or not, is legitimate evidence in the Christian's eyes that the opposing claim has been debunked. Essentially, if any critique can be construed as being "not having an understanding of Biblical literature", it therefore then can be dismissed as an incorrect interpretation. In other words, you will consistently and constantly be wrong, because you don't "understand" what the Bible is trying to communicate, however, their interpretations are the most correct.
>>74470181
first i heard that one
literally doesn't matter because cuckoldry was mocked and condemned throughout christian europe regardless
>>74470267
The Noah pangea hypothesis many you earth creationists adhere to implies it due to the physics involved. But hey, let's not actually test what religious people believe: it might turn out to be in conflict with reality...
>>74469450
suppose it was less than 1m/sec, like a lot less, and that a lot of water rained down and even water would be "springing up" in the cracked parts, if the plates were to move rather slowly, and water was rapidly added, wouldnt there be enough water to have to heat up that the earth wouldn't become a boiling pot? Considering that this thread is supposed to be following a Biblical perspective, suppose a worldwide flood like the one spoken of in the bible?
>>74470116
If i remember correctly
>virgin Mary
>gets fukt by god/angel
>Joseph just rolls with it
explain where the cuck isn't?
>>74470444
Where would the energy go to? Probably into the rock itself no? One would expect major melting events in mountainous regions where continents met and the energy would be concentrated. These are absent. Instead we find carefully preserved geological features, including many fossils of ascending complexity from deep past to present. The flood hypothesis would create one homogeneous layer of sediment, with fossils all mixed up (and molten mountain regions).
>Be Lot
>My daughters give me wine to drink
>I fall unconcious
>They both rape me and become pregnant
What a cucked religion.
Just like my Christian brothers have said you must all atone for your sins or burn for eternity in hellfire. But God is all merciful, so kneel before him and be forgiven, sinners
>>74470409
>The Noah pangea hypothesis
why would anyone look at anything at the bible with a scientific eye . in the first day god created light and he can turn that light off right now and we would be in complete darkness.. muh physics
>>74470940
>le hell
>>74470940
"Do as I tell you or I'll kill you (worse, torture you forever) and claim it's your own fault. But hey my love is limitless."
Smell the butter yet?
>>74470940
If you don't become an Atheist, after you die you will spend eternity in the fiery pits of Mordor.
>>74470914
this is actualy funny but its not god commanding the daughters to rape their father
>>74470914
Mate, nah, he totally knew what was going on. Maybe once you can say "I was wasted so I didn't know I was fucking her" but it happens twice in a row you have to realize what's happening. He was a pretty cool guy.
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>>74471107
You choose your own fate, infidels, but I will pray for you tonight
>>74468051
Yeah, it's almost as if the relevant part here is them being European and not them being Christians. Otherwise, where are the crishun spics and all those crishun nignogs on that list?
>>74471443
Threats only convince the fearful. Why would I fear a supposedly loving god for believing what I see is the truth? Would such a god not understand that revealing himself through a collection of ancient books is a bit, uhm, pitiful and unconvincing to people with a working mind? The fact that there are thousands of sects within christianity alone should have him scratch his head: his own followers can't even decide what's correct.
This is babbie's first theology so let's go easy.
Mary was the one immaculately conceived, not Jesus. God impregnates Mary's mother so that Mary is the perfect woman born of no man, meaning that she is clean enough to bear the Son of God. Jesus was conceived the old fashioned way between Mary and Joseph.
This is Basic Christianity 101. Something Protestants, Evangelicals and Mormons always fail at.
>>74471443
You realize why hell is depicted so explicitly and varied is because the artists of their time could only go wild on those paintings and sculptures.
Art was seen or rather divided into "good" and " evil"
Good being the christ figures, maria's, angels, etc while evil art was up to the artist his imagination.
How can you trust the believe of an exact form of afterlife with the only source the depraved taste of a bunch of individual medieval artists?
>>74471799
>Threats only convince the fearful.
baits only convince the retarded, mister reddit man :^)
but nice dubs
>>74454897
>guardian of Mary
So Joseph is the modern day equivalent of beta orbiters that give money to camgirls and get nothing in return. Got it.
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>>74453200
could have you dolt
could of doesn't make any sense at all.
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:D
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>>74457781
Probably pseudo-Mark, writing at least 100 years after the events are believed to have taken place, and probably NOT trying to write a history or straight scripture, but rather marrying two literate traditions, the developing fictional narrative of the greeks, which would develop into romance and the novel, and also the hebrew fiction tradition of midrash.
Very good question.
>>74471704
Not real christfags ,it where the missionaries who made them christfags but they are stil savages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqXdvlv5Qxg
>>74451898
>If I were a degenerate. Or demiurge.
Nice.
>>74471925
No lol. Joseph thought about divorcing her quietly.
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>>74450526
Thank you, OP, for this thread.
All religions are for slaves and suckers. But Christianity really takes the cake.
>>74472287
>but they are stil savages
That's because they're inferior people, like I was implying.
>>74471925
>Jesus was conceived the old fashioned way between Mary and Joseph.
Then why would he seek to quietly break off their engagement?
>>74472320
>>74450526
Better than the other religion that named entire continent after a zoophile.
>>74472520
inferior people is a harsh word we al degrade because of sin,for example the rise in autism. The negro degrades also
>>74450526
Let's see: the Exodus is false. Noah's flood is false. The central story of the New Testament is the literal deification of cuckoldry. Remind me again how is this in any way "the good book"?
>>74473167
>inferior people is a harsh word
It's the truth.
Those few cases of autism don't change that we're overall getting better.
Also, why were niggers "degrading" so much faster than us that they're in this sad state now?
>>74450932
2016:
MY WIFE'S SON IS REALLY GOD'S SON, I SWEAR! BELIEVE ME!
>>74450526
Jesus was a Jew, so was/is every Christian king.
>>74473420
>Also, why were niggers "degrading" so much faster than us that they're in this sad state now?
for being god less.
when cain killed abel god send him on his way ..Cain had become evil and cursed and so would his off spring
>>74473880
This.
>>74473295
They weren't lost on their way to Israel from Egypt. They were camping out in the desert waiting for God's command, waiting for him to give the Canaanites over into their hands. However, God found Moses' generation disrespectful, sinful, lacking in faith, etc., so he cursed their generation to never see the land he had promised them, forcing them to wait until the next generation had matured. The entire first generation that followed Moses into the desert died before they saw the promised land, either by old age, disease, or warfare because they tried invading Israel without the Spirit's blessing. Seriously, they were sitting there waiting, not wandering around aimlessly. Thus, a forty year journey.
You would know this if you had bothered to read the fucking book. Yes, lots of things in the Bible are allegories or parables. Some of it is clearly either lies or half-truths written by fallible men with agendas. But questions like, "Why did it take them forty years to cross the desert?" are answered in the goddamn Torah, which is right in the beginning of the Bible it wouldn't even take you long to get that far.
READ. A. BOOK. NIGGER.
>>74474053
Then why did they bother with the Ethiopian eunuch?
It's almost like you're making up stuff.
Also, how do you explain subhumans like spics or arabs with that?
well God did call him 'dad' a few times
that's got to count for something
'yeah I told God to go to bed,' he can brag about that forever
>Literally believing in a book written by Jewish desert dwellers following a Jewish desert carpenter 2000 years ago.
>not mentally retarded
>>74474250
nothing that Jesus said or did was evenly partially consistent with modern jews
jews despise and reject him viciously when cornered on the subject
keep trying schlomo
>>74473420
>>74474421
>nothing that Jesus said or did was evenly partially consistent with modern jews
>Just quoted from the Jewish Old Testament exclusively
>Church fathers who created Christianity explicitly debated on which Jewish laws to not follow.
Keep lying to yourself Christcuck because lying is all a Christian can do (while lying is a sin).
>>74474091
>Some of it is clearly either lies or half-truths written by fallible men with agendas
This is not true. Please stop saying this.
No one has power over God's Word.
Literally cuck religion. Now turn the other cheek.
>>74474579
>No one has power over God's Word.
>written by Jewish men who say it's God's word.
>literally believes them
>>74474421
>nothing that Jesus said or did was evenly partially consistent with modern jews
Give your shekels to our collective, goy.
You can find salvation only through ME, not that competition over there, goy. No, those are the...the church of satan, right!
Don't forget to buy some swords for some implied threat of violence.
Oh, and when I don't get my way I'll rain fire upon the earth, hehehe.
Yeah. Totally nothing alike modern jews.
>>74474565
the jews follow the talmud, not the old testament
only a tiny percentage of the people jesus interacted with (the priesthood) were genetically similar to modern jews, and he called them the children of satan, and the worshippers of satan
which is what I had already said
>>74474472
What part of "those few cases of autism don't change that we're overall getting better" didn't you understand? 1 in 110 still means that there are 109 healthy people that are bigger, stronger, smarter, healthier than just a hundred years ago, who will live longer and more comfortably into old age.
>>74474855
>the jews follow the talmud, not the old testament
They just follow every fucking law in the Old Testament. The fucking Church fathers debated over which Jewish laws to not follow so they wouldn't be like jews, b-but those laws WEREN'T REALLY JEWISH. That sounds really logical. Keep breaking your Christ's laws by lying, cuck.
>>74469469
The contradiction still stands, and why did you highlight everything?
>>74475077
you are already aware of the lie that you're telling
they observe the old testament to trick goyim, and in your case they've succeeded
the babylonian talmud, which is satan worship, is the true jewish religion
the jews attached themselves to white people from the beginning, this isn't a recent thing
when jesus said 'beware the scribes and the pharisees' he was referring to the immigrant jewidh scribes that the (white) levitical priesthood had slowly allowed to replace them, over the course of centuries
