When a pregnant woman (sorry: pregnant individual) orders alcohol in a restaurant or bar in New York City, the waiter or bartender can not refuse to serve it, since that would be discrimination.
Freedom, muthafuckaz!
> News article
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/nyregion/bartenders-cant-refuse-pregnant-women-alcohol-new-york-city-says.html
> Comment by an amazing Canadian YouTube asshole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8DIvhVbdpY
Good, our birth rates weren't fucked enough, now we can churn out FAS babies with the few that we have left.
>>74446412
I'm angry.
my body my rules
its not hurting you so why do you care
dont like it dont look
:^)
New and improved americans, now with extra chromosomes!
>people who are pregnant are somehow a group seen as possibly discriminated as if that's even possible
Because protecting an unborn life is worth less than protecting someone's feelings.
>>74446412
NYC is becoming complete insanity at this point.
>>74447283
You don't get it yet? The U.N. seeks to weaken your populace, little by little they chip away at you because nobody can win an all out war. You guys gotta chimp out and murder shitloads of people again.
Perpetual war is the key to victory for any empire. Just keep fighting and keep producing weapons. That's it. Real simple.
That's ok actually. It's not a bartender's business to take care pf my future kid. Also one can buy booze at a shop anyway.
Why wait till you get born to get drunk?
Drink now
FETAL
ALCOHOL
SYNDROME
>>74446412
Infans conceptus: btfo
New York deserves to be bombed and burnt down to the ground.
>>74447661
t. Osama Bin Laden
how the fuck is it discrimination just because men cant get pregnant
it doesnt apply to all fucking women
god fucking dammit are you fucking serious
>>74447430
>It's not a bartender's business to take care pf my future kid.
This. But if baby is born with alcohol related syndromes woman should be stripped from parental rights, all her property put into medical trust of this kid, and she should be jailed fro mandatory 10 years no parole. Fair is fair.
>be american
>own a bar/restaurant
>cannot refuse to serve a pregnant or else get sued
>serve a pregnant
>baby born with autism
>get sued
>>74446412
Yes goy, its just a little drink!
You deserve it! The baby can take it dont worry!
>>74446412
libertarians win once again
>>74447304
How can they enforce that?
>>74447800
kek
And yet I STILL can't buy legal cocaine and a-pvp.
>A woman shouldn't be allowed to have any alcohol while pregnant, because we need to be uncompromising when it comes to children.
Hmm, are you advocating that men should be blocked from doing anything that could impact the health of their sperm?
No, of course not.
Because women should be controlled but we shouldn't.
>2017
>In lieu of last year's changes to laws empowering women to consume alcohol, thaledomide is now brought back
>>74446412
I want to destroy NY and NJ at the same time
>>74446412
Fucking disgusting. This is what happens when liberals run amok.
>>74447283
>Because protecting an unborn life is worth less than protecting someone's feelings.
That explains every leftist position on the unborn.
>>74446412
>illegal to drink when pregnant
>legal to abort it
Satanism is actually more acceptable than this shit
>>74450510
Kill yourself you fucking retard.
>New York values
>>74450510
>sperm is a human being
It's not genocide every time I fap to shemale porn, retard.
>>74446412
I'm fed up with babies getting drunk, it's time to become a #Cruzmissle.
If business owners should be allowed to deny service to pregnant women ordering drinks, they should also be allowed to deny service to homosexuals.
>>74450510
New Yorker here. The city is a liberal shithole and de Blasio is fucking retarded and undoing everything Giuliani achieved
I will refuse to believe this is true and consider this to be false. People aren't apes and can actually think. Not sure why you're trying to trigger me with made up stories anon.
>>74446412
>Alcohol
>A human right
I love a drink as much as the next, but that's a bit far.
>>74450510
Sperm health doesn't affect the fetis. Defective sperm don't reach the egg
>>74446412
Good.
>>74451630
If they have to allow pregnant women drinks, why not just serve underage kids drinks too?
They both damage the children, except one is voluntary on the child's part.
Seriously though, we all know drinking during pregnancy is bad; if people still do it, maybe it's not all that big a deal.
>>74446412
>using safety as...a way to reinforce traditional gender norms or stereotypes is unlawful
>>74452007
Well what if we just rule that pregnant PEOPLE can't drink, regardless of weather they're men or women?
All you have to do is refuse to sell her drinks and let her get angry and start a scene.
By becoming belligerent, she will give a legitimate excuse for the bouncer to bounce her stupid ass the fuck on out of the bar.
>>74447925
Did you just fucking imply that men can't have vaginas, you fucking shitlord?! I literally can't even believe you said that. Are you kidding me???!
Let them
They'll breed themselves out of existence within 3 generations
>>74447304
>These people want misgendering to be a criminal offence
>$125,000-$250,000 fine
Time to put it all to the torch.
>>74446412
We need to leave the U.N.
>>74452131
>>74452178
Actually there is a good line of attack here to fight this retardness with more retardness.
>>74450317
No, a libitarian would want the business to have the right to deny service to whomever it wants, being forced to cater to certain people doesn't follow that.
>>74446412
100 years ago women's rights groups were fighting to ban alcohol and now they're making it illegal to not serve pregnant women and Women's rights groups are celebrating. The regressive left is at it again.
>>74451107
>Sovereign Pennsylvanians having oceanfront property
I'm OK with this
>>74450510
And they say we shitpost
why is the slaughter and torture of babies okay by liberal standards, yet i'm not allowed to punch people i don't like? I should at least be able to punch people.
>>74450328
What do you mean?
>xe walks into store
>gets greeted with "Good morning, ma'am"
>xe explains that xir gender is xorg, and not female
>clerk answers "Whatever you say, ma'am"
>xe calls 911, the rainbow police arrives within 30 seconds
>ask clerk if he admits willfully misgendering, if he denies, xe can provide proof and/or witnesses
>clerk gets arrested to protect the community, later sentenced to pay $250,000 in fines, probably additional damages in civil court
The end.
Look at it from a liberal's point of view: They do not see the unborn child as a person, so it doesn't matter if you mangle it beyond recognition with booze; it's not a person, who cares lol. Here in the UK they are trying to make abortion legal for all 9 months for any reason..very scary. Soon they will advocate for the euthanasia of recently born babies that are no longer wanted.
>inb4 muh slippery slope fallacy
Yes it's a fallacy, but it's proven to be correct too many times.
>>74452716
Nah, they'll have pedophillia legal by then, so they'd sell new born to pedo farms, or maybe just their still warm corpses
>>74450317
Are you autistic? A Libertarian would defend the right of the private business owner to refuse service to any patron they feel fit.
>>74446412
Why does it matter to me? I don't care about foetuses or babies.
As a med student this upsets me
>New York
Lads, was Osama the good guy after all?
>destroys the biggest jew towers on the planet
>killed liberals in the thousands
>>74453080
Imagine if america was even stupider on the global stage than it is today.
>>74453095
Literally looks like a standard nigger
>>74453183
I think you just unearthed something.
>>74448387
Alternatively, if you have a baby that is disabled due to your own actions, the government should be allowed to bin the kid.
Birthing another human isnt just your own business. Its societies business. That child will participate in, contribute to and benefit from the system, thus the system should have some control over who gets admitted.
>>74446412
>deliberately harming an unborn child still isn't a serious criminal offence
wake me up
>drinking alcohol harms the fetus
If you have a single drink it's not gonna do anything. If the retard mom has several $10 cocktails at a restaurant she was going to drink them at home or whatever anyway.
>>74453390
Fuck off commie.
>>74453470
I dont want people birthing tard babies that will leech off the free money.
Maybe you'd understand if you lived in a country that had free money available.
>>74451539
>>74451637
>>74451366
>>74451889
>>74452459
ITT: Dummies who don't understand that what men do can damage our sperm resulting in birth defects.
Why don't you sad losers just admit you hate women and be done with it?
>>74453466
The point is, forcing other people to enable such behavior at the point of a gun.
>>74453599
The government should never be allowed to do 'x' to your children. It's like you want to be run like cattle. Having the government in every aspect of your life. If you want that move to china or any other dictatorship hellhole.
>>74453466 the issue is that business is losing the right to choose it's clients as >>74453810 said
>>74453866
I want the government to cull off babies off drug addicts, niggers, criminals and disabled people, seeing as I cant legally do it myself.
>>74446412
Isn't this right out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
>>74453810
>>74453921
I don't get it sorry
>>74453470
That's more fascist desu
>>74451889
Not entirely true mate. It's been proven that once a male gets older than 45 his sperm quality goes down and the child has a higher chance of birth defects. It's a basic part of genetics. Another fun fact, if you're fat as fuck and are at risk for heart disease thanks to epigenetic markers your child will be too. Im not excusing women from making dumb decisions, just know your decisions have an impact too. They'll just show up down the line.
>>74446412
This is very obviously the next step in the "I can breastfeed wherever I want!" meme. I don't get how people don't see this.
>>74454153
Basically they're taking the businesses rights, the business no longer can choose who to work for, it's punishable by law to no serve people they don't want to.
I'm sick of this sacred cow shit the jews are trying with children.
They say the mantra "It's a woman's body" which means they can screw up a child for life.
And they're trying in the media to push the trans kid lesbian parent EVIL shit and you cannot even debate or criticize because it's implied that you are bullying the children if you disagree.
>>74446412
alcohol can stop premature labor
>>74454328
But it bothers me when some religious faggot pharmacist doesn't give the morning after pill to someone, I'm so conflicted. I also think bakeries should be able to refuse to make cakes for fags
>>74451360
The etymology of satan just means opposer/adversary. The government is absolutely adversarial to the people.
>>74454289
I was thinking collectivism splashed with some fascism.
>>74446412
That should be considered child abuse. Really, aborting babies is perfectly fine, making them into handicaps isn't
end it all pls
>>74454437
It's good to be conflicted when there is a question of who's rights supersede someone else.
>>74454361
Wasn't there an article where two lesbian parents said their deaf kid told them in sign language that it was Trans? Seems fishy to me.
>>74454437
Usually it's against company service to do that it depends on if it's private or corporate, of its a family Christian Pharma practice they have that right.
>>74454910
Please nuke us if Trump isn't elected. Hillary will be too busy licking coke out of Huma's starfish to retaliate in time.
>get pregnant
>order booze
>baby comes out retarded
>sue restaurant for serving it to you
>>74446412
What's the problem with FAS?
A lot of people in this thread act like having ONE drink is going to turn the babby into a fucking potato. It doesn't work like that.
>>74446412
You can always claim she appeared visibly intoxicated.
>>74452186
>he's never been to West Virginia
>>74455127
>>74455330
hnnnggghhhh
this is my fetish
>>74455330
actually kind of hot in an alien way
>>74450510
>this shitpost brought to you by
>>74453662
I'm not exactly sure what we can do.
Wouldn't we have to microwave our balls or some shit?
>>74455330
>This is the end result of feminism
It's good to have clarity of your enemies.
>>74455467
>put down that poutine and come to bed, anon
>>74446412
It's probably just a bunch of nigger women who will ruin their kids. They did this because bartenders started complaining about regular chimpouts from obese, pregnant nigresses.
>>74446412
Autism rates will skyrocket now.
>>74453662
Yes, because kinda-sorta compromising some sperm that are very unlikely to even join with the egg, that are very likely going to be replaced before the fucking is exactly like a woman who is already pregnant drinking.
>>74446412
Big gulp? Gotta make that illegal. Would hate for people to get fat from their own choices.
Drinking alcohol while pregnant? Totally fine, the feelings of some degenerate out weight the health of an innocent child.
>Leftists actually think this way
>>74454297
>It's been proven that once a male gets older than 45 his sperm quality goes down and the child has a higher chance of birth defects.
It's even worse for women, though. Their egg cells are practically worthless at age 35.
I don't get this trend that every cunt wants to go to university for 10 years. It's unnatural. Young couples should have children at 20 or so.
>>74446412
Why do you care ? It's a foreign city
I'm pro choice but fuck this shit. The government gives these kids disability but the special ed schools rely on donations and private funding. What reasoning do they have for encouraging women to jeopardize their children's health?
Its your birthday, you want ONE glass of wine over the course of your pregnancy? Still stay the fuck home. Who the fuck actually raised a stink over not being served alcohol in a public place while obviously pregnant? Its bad for business, well at least it used to be.
>>74447233
I don't see anything wrong with this statement
>>74447283
>an unborn life
But whose unborn life ? Yours ?
>>74455765
>Young couples should have children at 20 or so.
Unless you get welfare or have your parents take care of the kid, this is practically impossible to afford, and will hold you back immensely. Having kids young is the #1 cause of poverty in the US.
IFV is basically the norm these days for professional adults (35+) trying to have kids.
>>74451107
New york is the only beautiful america. No one wants to go to fucking minnesota or florida, everyone wants to go to new york.
>>74451202
And there's nothing you can do except voting for Trump. That's the only change-making thing that we all can do.
>>74451360
Redpill me on how satan really exists
>>74456004
>Having kids young is the #1 cause of poverty in the US.
And having them old is the #1 cause for the extinction of Europeans.
![1456175340340[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/weuGVCg.png "1456175340340[1].png")
>>74452716
There's a case for abortion existing. At least that kid isn't doomed to live a horrible life by an irresponsible parent, ruining future generations.
These kids will be born, and suffer from it.
At least we will get more QT FAS ayylmao chicks out of it.
>>74456004
How old are you when you leave high school? How long does it take to learn a trade in the USA?
I think if you're a 22 old male you can have a real job that pays relatively well. If your wife if 2 years younger than you, then where is the problem? Go make kids. And of course parents should help. But I guess your boomers care more about "travelling the world" or some shit than to take care of their lineage.
>>74455330
What the fuck is the deal with her face? is this a result of FAS as well?
>>74456068
Nothing?
Also, there is a lot that can be done at the lower state and city levels. The US is based around federalism and a divided government.
Wow, can you get anymore retarded? Health experts tell you to abstain from alcohol because of the dangers it poses to the fetus, but soccer mom knows best and must get her drink on to get by in her shitty life. How terrible of a mother to disregard the child's safety like that.
This is like those retard parents who don't vaccinate their kids.
And not only is refusing alcohol or admittance to places like concerts for protecting the fetus, it's for protecting the business.
That way if your baby gets FAS because you just HAVE to drink, or your fetus gets crushed by a mosher, you can't blame the venue.
>>74456112
Underrated post.
>>74451107
>not wanting to go to 70 degree minnesota summer
>not wanting to fish up mutated golden trout
come to minnesota, we got a lot of meth
>>74456302
30. I left HS at age 18. Went to a 4 year engineering university, and graduated right when the economy was circling the drain. For anyone but the top 10% of graduates, there were no jobs whatsoever. Many promising engineers and science graduates I knew wound up working menial jobs for a few years. I was lucky to get an actual job.
Generally speaking as a professional you will be moving between jobs quite a bit from graduation until you are in your early 30s as you gain experience in your field. Job hopping is the only way to get a significant pay raise any more. Try raising small kids when you need to move 1500 mi across the country every two years.
Yes there are trades jobs out there such as HVAC that pay kinda-sorta decently, probably $20/hr after 1-2 years of training or apprenticeship. But for your average uneducated normalfag, good luck earning more than $15/hr without any intelligence or training, and you will probably get no healthcare benefits.
The US subsidizes ghetto single moms to shit out children but does absolutely nothing to help out normal people with jobs.
>>74456579
Prove it that our /pol/ agenda can come to reality. Come on, don't deny it we're all defeatists
>>74456112
based kraut
>drinking while pregnant
Who actually does?
White trash and niggers.
So what? Retards produce retarded offspring. Nothing changes.
>>74457346
It's not like this madness as spread further than NY. Sensible people in other parts of the country still has this outlawed. This isn't really a federal issue.
>>74458314
I wish I could choke people through my computer screen.
>>74446412
>ITT: /pol/ suddenly supports the nanny state
>>74446412
I can't wait for huffintonpost to publish article titled
"Research: Drinking alcohol while expecting might actually be healthy for your child"
>>74458314
not sure what I expected desu senpai
>>74458314
> taxpayers should pay for my fuck ups
>>74458714
/pol/ has always been supportive of a business right to refuse service pedro
>>74458714
A business shouldn't be forced.
Also see: >>74458314
Those kids will become drains on society.
>>74458714
>anon confuses private businesses with the state.
>currently living in jew york
>see 2 bullshit laws being pushed here
>mfw
It will be worth it once trump wins right?
A very high percentage of Aboriginal babies in remote communities are born with foetal alcohol syndrome :(
Stop infantilizing women pol. they are perfectly capable of making their own decisions. This isnt the medieval ages anymore.
>>74459004
Gah, don't trust the Huntington post. They are one of the worst journalist sources. They always make shitty click bate articles with half-assed evidence or support.
>>74459004
Written by Schlomo Bergstein.
>>74458714
You do need some rules and welfare in some cases. But not to what we have today in the USA and Europe.
>>74446412
I wouldn't abide by this law if I were a bartender.
>>74446412
I waited tables in college and had a very pregnant woman keep ordering drinks... so I kept bringing them.
With the kind of mother who drinks to the point of intoxication while pregnant, a little fetal alcohol syndrome isn't going to make much difference and it's not my place to regulate everyone's behavior.
>>74459693
It would be an interesting experiment to run on new yorks various bars. Get a female reporter, give her a balloon belly, and follow her with a camera to various bars to see if the barman will cave in to the new law.
But they are effectively removing themselves out of the gene pool and in the process their ideologies. Why are we trying to stop this again?
>>74459896
This is a very good idea.
>>74459449
A FUCKING LEAF
>>74459944
Those fetuses don't die when exposed to alcohol, they just get deformed and retarded. It makes the problem worse.
>>74460084
>Spying on people is a good idea.
There's a career in Jew media or government for people who think this.
>>74456027
NY fucking sucks. The whole city smells like piss and all there is to do is blow money on taxis and overpriced shit. The vendors salt the pretzels with street gravel, and that last part is not an exaggeration. I ate a pretzel with black salt covered in motor oil as a child. Fuck NY
>>74446412
>a dose of buckley
>>74460275
Blur out faces and names of buildings, change the voices if it offends you so. But people who will willingly give alcohol to late term pregnant woman should be fucking shamed. It would be an interesting video one way or the other.
>>74447233
I'd agree with but for one thing: Socialists.
You know damn well that bitch ins't going to pay the costs associated with her own irresponsibility.
It's basically the second hand smoke argument after that. Yes, your BS really does harm me.
>>74460193
They don't need to die, just make their own ability to propagate less likely. Would you date a malformed retard?
>>74460476
>people who are in business to sell drinks should be shamed for selling drinks to legal adults
Should they also have to play mommy by cutting a guy off when he's had too many (they are actually legally required to do this... which is bullshit)? How about we let people make their own decisions and live with the consequences?
>>74460794
Yes you should be ashamed for contributing to the death or mental retardation of a child. You have the choice to not sell drinks to someone. Are you that morally bankrupt?
>>74460794
>>people who are in business to sell drinks should be shamed for selling drinks to legal adults
And people who sell it to a visibly pregnant woman should be. Or in this new day and age, celebrated for being so diverse of mind to follow the laws to the letter, and not discriminate against those of us who are disabled by their fertility.
Its more of an experiment on what will people follow, either what the law says, or what is actually good.
>>74446412
>My baby is my property! I am womyn hear me roar!
>>74460735
No but there's always some cuck out there that will.
Abortion is fine. In fact - it probably should be encouraged. We don't need any more single moms to support with taxpayer money and a potentially psychologically underdeveloped child.
What's not fine is drinking while you're pregnant and ensuring your child is going to have to live with debilitating problems in life.
>>74447304
Wait a minute.
Does this mean I can actually identify as an Apache helicopter and demand that people use the pronouns "soi, soi, soiself"?
And if people don't use them, they get fined?
Beautiful.
>>74461239
na, they use them as political tools and string them along but they don't have any real chance. The vast majority of them die as childless freaks.
>>74447304
there were a bunch of, i guess, pro-life people demonstrating inside of one of the main buildings at my school in the final days before i finished all my classes. the inept rage of these people staring and gawking and pleading with security to remove them was priceless. big old fucking placards with mutilated fetuses sure can get a rise out of some people. i wanted to go and say hi and chat with one of them but my group member kept me away as we needed to head up to the fourth floor to either retrieve some 3d prints or request some more, can't be fucked to remember.
we're the only fucking species on this earth to have become so adept in murdering our unborn offspring, i'll tell you that.
the real choice is getting pregnant in the first place and no amount of sugar-coating or responsibility-shifting will change that.
women today are just overgrown fucking children. how the fuck can humanity, outright, be expected to progress if our young are incubated in such flawed, infanticidal beings?
artificial wombs when
This is so retarded. Not only do you guys still believe there is nothing wrong with alcohol compared to the other substances, but now you're allowed to drink literally one of the most dangerous substances on earth while pregnant. Say good bye to intelligence, we're going to make ourself extinct.
>>74452629
I've never been told "Good morning." in NYC. I've always gotten "What do you want?"
Which is good. Why bother with politeness if it's just going to be flung back in your face by someone who is spoiling for a reason to feel like a victim.
My morning greeting is close to, "I don't care" as it is. I'm just lucky that I don't have to deal with gender issues.
>>74446412
Unless it's a 20oz soda.
>New York City, the place where extra-large sodas are illegal, but drinking while pregnant is a human right
