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How does it feel knowing that socialism is causing a majority of European problems?

>mass refugee immigration
>failing economy
>far left hug box safe spaces
>massive debt
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Bad
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>>74360173
its a learning experience for humanity. sadly europe may not be much but kebabistan after its over but look on the bright side no other race is going to be that dumb

india removing kebab, china removing kebab
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>>74360173
We would have been doing great with our little socialist state if we never joined neither Schengen or Euro.
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>>74360173
>OP country
>>massive debt
Also there are no socialistic countries in europe right now
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They had a good political system until they tasted nigger cum and couldn't get enough of it and were willing to commit suicide for some BBC. This will be the most embarrassing chapter of human history.
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>Europe gets 0.001% less white

HURR COLLAPSE OF EUROPE

>America is literally 60% white and falling

W-w-w-we're find, muh uncle Trump will fix everything

Better learn spanish amigo
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>>74360173
Technically, the mass refugee immigration is caused by the fact that the dozen or so countries the refugees are fleeing are utter shit compared to Europe.

Help fix those countries -just- enough that the process of getting through various other shitholes in order to finally make it to Europe is more hellish than staying put, and the refugees will stop coming.
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>>74360630
I believe in the Europeans being able to turn it around. It'll be a slow process starting with some possibly extreme measures, but Europe can be great again.
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Why can't nation states just be a thing again
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>>74361396
Because you abandoned your Germanic roots and pay the price
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>>74361396
Fuck off Hans
We're not German
Flanders should join us
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>>74360173
Polan is doing great compared to your country
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/poland/balance-of-trade
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade

You are on a bubble so massive its unreal
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/consumer-price-index-cpi
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>>74360874
>Also there are no socialistic countries in europe right now

compared to murica every country with normal healthcare or public education that can produce anyone smarter than a dolphin is a socialist hellhole
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>>74360173
THE US HAS ALL OF THOSE THINGS ALREADY WITHOUT SOCIALISM!
Wheres your correlation = causation argument now?
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>>74361801
The US doesn't have Socialism? Are you stupid?

What do you think keeps the 50 Million Niggers alive in their ghettos? Fairy dust?
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>>74360173
>socialism
Nice try, liberal capitalism is destroying Europe.
Tell me who profits from cheap shitskin workers? Who profits from weakening nationalism and nations? Who profits from TTIP?

The EU is a neoliberal concept in favour of the bankers and capitalists who aim to destroy culture by allowing liberals to spread degeneracy

The only solution is to forcefully nationalise everything in Europe and end private owned capital, turning to a nationalist economy system
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>>74362025
>Tell me who profits from cheap shitskin workers? Who profits from weakening nationalism and nations? Who profits from TTIP?

Globalist Jews. The masters of Communism.
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>>74360630
>India
Literary a people lesser than the filthiest bushman nigger.
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>>74360173
>US
>has no socialism
>62% white
>nigger president
>faggot marriage
>almost more kikes than Israel
>glorified black culture
>racemixing
>goodest goy there is

So glorious.
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>>74362093
>globalist jews
Well, anyone behaving jewish is one of them, I see no difference in say Murdoch and any jew banker or so. We should stop making it just about the jews, any capitalist is guilty

As for communism, it was created to pull apart Europe and make it an Us vs Them mentality, yet funny how they both joined up against fascism...

We are all going on like "Oh the lefties are destroying Europe", while it is the left AND right wing neoliberals which do it.
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>>74360173
>62%
>muslim nigger president
>next president will likely be a woman
>nigger printed on their money

tell me again how shit it is over here, colony.
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>>74360173
You're retarded.

Then again, it's not your fault. Americans are indoctrinated from birth to blame all the world's problems on "socialism" and "communism".

Let me explain:

Not a single European country is remotely socialist. They are all state capitalist economies.

Furthermore, it is the CAPITALISTS want to import refugees from the third world so that they can benefit from cheap labour. It is CAPITALISTS who are trying to relax immigration laws and erode borders.

In short, socialism (of the national kind) is the cure for most of Europe's problems. Unfortunately, people are brainwashed to believe in capitalism, free trade and open borders.
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Conspiracy Theory:

>Jews let in millions of immigrants, rack up trilliondollar debt for all of europe
>Europe will later be indebt for all eternity, you and your children will become absolute debtslaves

Yes or no?
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>>74361795
Yes, if only the US had the much celebrated education system of the powerhouse that is Lithuania.

If you're going to insult America, at least try to be from a country that isn't an international joke.
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>>74362303
WTF are you talking about you bosniak Muslim.

Globalists are the exact opposite of Capitalists you should know this.
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>>74360173
Feels good.
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>>74360173
>far left hug box safe spaces
>massive debt

These are both far more an American problem than a European one, m80.

But yes, socialism is collapsing because it wants everything at the same time. They want a welfare state, but also mass immigration. These two can't possibly go together.

It's not so much socialism that's causing the collapse as it's the rampant incompetence and cronyism inherent in socialism. I'm still in favour of a welfare state. Just not for outsiders who never paid into the system.
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>>74362409
You just became one of my favorite Brits, anon.

This is pretty much it, nationalism mixed with socialism would be ideal, but in no way should we do what the white-people-hating Hitler did (ie killing half of Europe and thinking any European is better than the other)

We need to make a new union, with a common army, with nationalist governments cooperativly ruling it under a stateowned economic system

And simply ban the immigrantion of those born on another continent
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>>74362467
>Globalists are the exact opposite of Capitalists

Hawara, capitalists want a global market.
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>>74362467
Are you fucking braindead?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

Globalists are neoliberals aka EXTREME CAPITALISTS.

Fucking read a book you mongoloid:
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>>74361973
>Fairy dust?

I believe the official name is PCP.
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>>74361576
Why are you yelling at yourself?
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>>74362467
>Bosniak muslim
What is a Bosniak?

>globalism not being pushed by capitalists
Hahahahaha good one, you make great jokes
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>>74362100
bushniggers can dig a latrine and not play with their shit
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>>74362409
> socialism (of the national kind) is the cure for most of Europe's problems

You mean like Venezuela right now?
No I don't think so buddy. Socialism is the single most evil and destructive thing ever invented.

Reality has shown that Socialism is a million times more powerful at nation wrecking than nuclear bombs.
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>>74362763
My point, there isnt a place filled with more subhumans than India.

Utter animals who only know to rape, murder, shit on the streets and drink cow piss
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>>74360173
it doesn't even make sense to have mass immigration in a socialist state

socialism only worked in the nordic countries cuz they had a strong middle class, so the production 1 person created was enough to have welfare, with mass immigration you'll get a lot of people having low wage jobs, in which what matters is the production of the mass and not the individual so there's no way in hell they're gonna be capable of sustaining the free healthcare and college
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>>74360173
>mass refugee immigration
Capitalism for cheap labour
>failing economy
Capitalism, its been broken since 2008, the next crash is the end
>far left hug box safe spaces
Liberalism permitted by capitalism as it is profitable
>massive debt
Capitalism due to desperately trying to keep the system going

When are you blue pilled fucks going to realise capitalism is destroying itself and will take Europe down with it?

The internal contradictions of capitalism are unravelling before our eyes.
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>>74362775
>Venezuela
You mean a country sabotaged by the US to silly amounts?

If it were to happen to Europe, no one could stop the prosperity of the European people.

But Marxism is a destroyer of nations, that is true.
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This has to be bait. There are no socialist countries in Europe, and even if there were, it would have nothing to do with political correctness and immigration. Socialism is a (shitty) theory of economics
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>>74360630
what are you talking about, Muslims form ancient and integral parts of their populations for centuries.

They're just much better at managing such religious frictions, which sometimes means doing so forcefully but with nuanced restraint. The Europeans just don't know what to do- they just veer from "do nothing and smile awkwardly" to "die mudslimes remove kebab" without any subtlety and nuance in their actions.
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>>74360173
I don't think government ownership of industry is causing those problems. (socialism)

I think about half the problems are monetary policy, and the other half are regressive authoritarian lefttards.

Both are caused by Jews.
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>>74360173

Feels fucking awful, an I'm sick of seeing white bellends all over youtube and social media, and supposedly neutral TV shows bleating on about how anyone who opposes all the symptoms of this mental illness is a Nazi bigot racist privileged jerk. I am really starting to feel genuine fury towards my own people for being this fucking stupid and pathetic.
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>>74363059
>blaming it all on the jews
Non jew capitalists are the same shit
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>>74362952
Marxism and Socialism are the exact same thing.
The State takes the wealth trough heavy taxation or even outright confiscation and feeds it to the most unproductive things it can find.

Both Marxism and Socialism have ended in mass starvation. Always.
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>>74362775
You are so fucking deluded that there's no point in even arguing with you.

You think that welfare is "socialism". You think that Jews are communists. You think that fucking globalists aren't capitalists.

You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and are just parroting shit that some dumb alt-right fedora wearing faggot spewed on YouTube about the "evils of socialism".

You don't even fucking know what socialism is.

Uneducated, ignorant pieces of shit like you are the reason Europe is fucked and going down the drain.

I mean, if you're trolling then 10/10 mate you got me.
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>>74363134
>You think that welfare is "socialism". You think that Jews are communists. You think that fucking globalists aren't capitalists.

You got that exactly right.
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I just don't get letting in all these people at all. The amount being let in is just a idiotic idea; you are overloading the system and increasing the possibility of terrorists entering the country.
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>>74360173
It's so fulfilling to see. During the early 00's, Europeans were so smarmy about their "Utopian" socialists system, and us Ameritards were savages for having free market, free speech and various other freedoms that Europeans lacked.

We all knew it would fail, just like every other socialist system failed. What's really great is all of the American socialist college students who used to point to Europe as a shining example of successful socialism are now eating crow.

Marxism always fails. Karl Marx was a literal retard.
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>>74362251
>US
>has no socialism
1/3 of this country lives of the government.

>inb4 some dipshit tries to obfuscate the definition of socialism hurr durr dats not real socialism
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>>74363134
welfare IS socialism.

But what is wrong with that? All nations need a bit of socialism.
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>>74363300
Just like every human needs a bit of cancer?

Yeah no I don't think so.
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>>74360173
Atleast we had a good run
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>>74363121
>Non jew capitalists are the same shit
Not really, non Jew capitalists don't control the central banks that have saddled the world with a destructive monetary policy.

I have little issue with a free market, capitalists or even socialists.
The number one point that is never talked about is the monetary policy.

It's like have a talk about where you are putting your couch while your house is on fire.

Fiscal policy is pointless to talk about without monetary policy.
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>>74362979
B8 and fuck off.
Islam is a fucking ridiculous religion that half the time goes ape shit. It is a risk, wake the fuck up, this ideology has no place in modern society. They have a ridiculously disproportionate amount of level headed people compared to those who support radical action and then those who commit these radical acts.
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>>74363124
No they are not. Take neosocialists for instance, they hated Marx and were patriots oriented towards culture and even race. Or take Ustashe for instance, where Croat Socialism was the economic policy.

Marxism is aimed at abolishing the state, culture etc, cultural marxism is utterly the same as capitalist globalism.
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>>74363228
the military is basically a socialist program for getting disadvantaged youths free college, health, and set them up for better chances of employment later in life.

Hell, if you don't join the army or the marines you'll also have pretty much zero chances of dieing anyway. All you need to do is have the ability to endure boredom for a few years, staring into space on a ship or an airbase for a few hours at a time while you're on guard duty (guard against what? allah akbar's gonna suddenly turn up in the middle of a field in Oklahoma or something?).
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Liberals:

>W-w-we should be more like Europe

Meanwhile the same socialist welfare shit ruined Greece and most of europe is being invaded by people who want to be on welfare not jobs. There's a reason they want to get into Germany and the UK --- not other lesser countries with much less welfare.
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>>74363378
So you are telling us that we should abolish public education, universal healthcare, social security, and privatise the economy?
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>>74363124
>>74363201
>>74363378
You're so dumb it hurts.

Define socialism for me.
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>>74360980
>This will be the most embarrassing chapter of human history.

You don't think future generations will look back on this brave man as a hero? Young boys will pretend to be him, and young girls will hang posters of him on their walls. Hymns will be sung for him, families will gather annually in remembrance of him. A true hero.
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>>74363595
Nice photoshop mate
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>>74363610
Yes.

Pretty much every government service is. You collective tax society to pay for services.
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>>74363687
>Define socialism for me.
State ownership of some or all industry or businesses.
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>>74360173

I don't know if it was the plan but it will work after a fashion.

Now we've got the third worlders killing each other on most fronts, all that's left is India - I'm expecting Indian-Pakistani relations to deteriorate quickly in the next 5-10 years at this rate.
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>>74363734
I didn't make it, I just like that poster. But if it offends you here.
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>>74363771
PUBLIC ownsership of the MEANS OF PRODUCTION

Name a single European country where that's the case.
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>>74363711
that picture is so funny, as any self respecting refugee would castrate him and hang him from a tree to combat moral degeneracy in the name of their religion.
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>>74363734
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps
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>>74360173
>a thing i dont like is happening
>its a collapse!!!!!!
>im scared guys
hashtag cuckservative
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>>74363857
>PUBLIC ownsership of the MEANS OF PRODUCTION
That's sorta a narrow definition that doesn't really apply to any nation.
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>>74363636
Absolutely.

>So you are telling us that we should abolish public education,
Yes private schools are always better and free from government indoctriaon.

> universal healthcare
You have to keep yourself healthy not eat a ton of sugar every day like a retard.
Universal healthcare does nothing but feed stupid behavior
>social security
Get a fucking job.


>privatise the economy?

Of course the economy should be in private hands not some state run operations like in the soviet union.
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>>74363912
>He doesn't share my opinion
>GET OUT NAZI, RACIST, KEK, STOP NOT AGREEING WITH ME.
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>>74363975
Then how about this one?

>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production, as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment

Now what European country has this?
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>>74363912
>guys don't you dare criticize Europe just because they are failing they worked really hard on trying to provide welfare to refugees
nah this is how humans learn son, and bantz are how you cope
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>>74364142
France. More than half of their country is employed by the state in some way.
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>>74363975
It's the textbook definition of socialism anon.

>>74364037
This is why nobody takes you seriously.

There's not a single country in history that doesn't have some sort of social security because people realise that you will never have a 100% employment rate.

Seriously are you 12 years old? Did you just finish reading Atlas Shrugged and decided that it's time to air your views on the internet with the big boys.
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>>74364220
Which means the country is made of 50% cancer.
And people wonder why France has so many problems. The real miracle is that it's still alive at all.
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>>74363822
Nah its fine mate

>>74363900
Knew of the 20-something guys of the BFC

>>74364037
>obviously a troll or someone with the intellect of an inbred-born shitskin goatfucker
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>>74364142
>Now what European country has this?
Norway.

State ownership of their electrical production and oil production. Popular support for government investment (using that 800 billion) to buy the means of production in many other nations to earn Norway money.
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>>74364321
>There's not a single country in history that doesn't have some sort of social security

Never heard of the United States?
They did fine for 150 years without a welfare system.
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>>74364321
>It's the textbook definition of socialism anon.
So what?

If it doesn't apply to anything then as a term it is sorta useless.

No true socialism right?
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>>74364220
>France. More than half of their country is employed by the state in some way.

Reading comprehension.

The public ownership of the means of production.

Even IF half of France was employed by the govt (which is of course bullshit) that doesn't mean that the means of production aren't under private control.
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>>74360173

There is yet hope, all socialist constructs fail because sooner or later they run out of money. Brexit may accelerate this.
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>>74364451
The whole world did fine without vaccinations, antibiotics, cars etc too
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>>74364451
>They did fine for 150 years without a welfare system.
The first public school in the USA predates the creation of the USA by 141 years.
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>>74364363
>Public ownership of the means of production is a subset of social ownership, which is the defining characteristic of a socialist economy. However, state ownership and nationalization by themselves are not socialist, as they can exist under a wide variety of different political and economic systems for a variety of different reasons. State ownership by itself does not imply social ownership where income rights belong to society as a whole. As such, state ownership is only one possible expression of public ownership, which itself is one variation of the broader concept of social ownership

Now, taking that into account, how is France socialist?
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>>74364321
>>74364397

How much do you two retards get paid per hour to push Socialism on /pol/ ?

You need to get fuck out of here.
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>>74364363
France has a lot of cultural momentum that has allowed the current generation to live off the hard work that their ancestors have accumulated throughout the last couple of hundred years.

The same can be said for Britain, Italy and Spain. At least Germany is proactive in their approach to seize the initiative and continue on working hard for the future. The reason is that half of their country used to be in a communist dictatorship just one generation ago and these people still remember the hardships of being poor as fuck, and will do anything to avoid that again.
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>>74364417
Now what makes Norway different from state capitalism?

>State capitalism is usually described as an economic system in which commercial (i.e., for-profit) economic activity is undertaken by the state, where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned business enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, wage labor, and centralized management), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business management practices) or publicly listed corporations of which the state has controlling shares.
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>>74364610
Leave the troll/moron be
He just loved jerking off thinking of how Goldstein and Goldstein International GMBH buying all his economy, deciding that they no longer need filters on the factories, that they can use the fields as waste dumbs and hire every single Ahmed because they have to pay them less.
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>>74364610
> state ownership and nationalization by themselves are not socialist

Of course they are.
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Neither capitalism or socialism work because the democracy we have today is a joke.

Democracy needs transparent government along with proper freedom of speech and open press. People need to know why our representatives in the government make the decisions they make. This also leaves very little room for corruption from corporations and other governments.
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>>74364671
>I'm losing the argument
>therefore everyone arguing against me is a shill
Fuck off.
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>>74360173
It royallty sucks the US is another shining example of allowing socialism and communism to destroy our economy and society.

We should know better, as the US was born to not be like Europe, and we still have not learned our lesson.
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>>74364671
>not an argument
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>>74364451
>They did fine for 150 years without a welfare system.
Tell that to the people who died during the depression.

Please read a book. You're so uneducated it's actually sad.

>>74364491
I'm sorry, would you rather we have a discussion based on your arbitrary, subjective definition of socialism instead of the actual definition of the word?

Socialism means that the means of production are in the public's hands rather than under private control.
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>>74364787
Then what the fuck do you call state capitalism?
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>>74364740
How is state capitalism any different than socialism in effect?
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>>74364812
Democracy never worked, a republic is what is right.
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>>74364740

The fact that Bernie Sanders needs it to be, in order to fool the rubes into electing him to be America's Hugo Chavez.
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>>74360173
We didn't have hug box safe spaces until you pieces of shit invented them
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>>74364840
I'm loosing an argument?

Those two have the believe that Socialism is great. My opinion is that Socialism is evil and has ruined every nation that tries it.

Historic evidence from Venezuela to Greece to countless other examples is clearly on my side.
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>>74360173
>mass refugee immigration
That would be the USA and the Russians playing superpower in the middle east.
>failing economy
The Euro is failing, not the European market itself. Depending on what comes first, the reform or the death of the Euro will be the end of our problems.
>far left hug box safe spaces
The left is more unpopular than ever in many EU member states, even in France and Germany. The German Social Democrat party is below 20% now. This is a huge deal, considering it's the predecessor of all other German democratic parliamentary organizations.
>massive debt
All EU member countries' external debt piled together does not come anywhere close to the USA's 19 trillion.
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>>74364920
>Socialism means that the means of production are in the public's hands rather than under private control.
That wasn't the quoted definition of socialism.

Would you rather have a discussion based on your arbitrary, subjective definition of socialism instead of the actual definition of the word?
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>>74364888
WE SIDED WRONG IN WW2, FUCK THOSE COMMIES!
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>>74360173
bad
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>>74364969
>Then what the fuck do you call state capitalism?

An oxymoron.
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>>74360173
It's not socialism, it's the jews.

Kill every jew before they kill you, and that includes OP.
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>>74365098
You don't even know what socialism is retard.

Now fuck off.
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>>74364996
>Marxist literature defines state capitalism as a social system combining capitalism—the wage system of producing and appropriating surplus value—with ownership or control by a state; by this definition, a state capitalist country is one where the government controls the economy and essentially acts like a single huge corporation, extracting the surplus value from the workforce in order to invest it in further production. This designation applies regardless of the political aims of the state (even if the state is nominally socialist), and many people argue that the modern People's Republic of China constitutes a form of state capitalism and/or that the Soviet Union failed in its goal to establish socialism, but rather established state capitalism.

Your move.

>>74365098
>pushing too far in one ideological direction is bad
>therefore we should push too hard in the OTHER direction
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>>74364888
Trips of truth
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>>74365143
na, you see the correct definition of socialism is where the government literally hands out officially mandated dildos to every individual that they have to keep in their asses 24/7.

So the only true socialist state in the world is Canada.
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>>74360173
>mass refugee immigration
>failing economy
>far left hug box safe spaces
>massive debt

3 of those problems are caused by refugees, not socialism. And the other one has nothing to do with socialism, just liberals in general.
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>>74365143
It's the same definition. I'm just paraphrasing. Are you playing dumb on purpose or...
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>>74365318
>You don't even know what socialism is

The State takes the wealth through heavy taxation or even outright confiscation and feeds it to the most unproductive things it can find. For example Nigger welfare.

That's Socialism.
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>>74365499
Wrong. Try again faggot.
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>>74361201
>Help fix those countries -just- enough
What do you think the West has been doing for decades? The countries don't get better and now they blame us.

A country can't be fixed if the population doesn't want to fix it.
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>>74361795
It's hard to produce someone smarter than a rodent with public education.
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>>74364920
>Socialism means that the means of production are in the public's hands rather than under private control.

That's classical Marxism, which is just one branch of Marxism, which is just one branch of socialism.

Then there's orthodox Marxism, which is closer to social democrats than it is to Lenin's communist party, and seeks to establish communization without revolution and instead via perfectly legal, natural and peaceful means.

Among the non-Marxist socialisms, there's democratic socialism, which is all about making socialist incentives palatable for the capitalists, with no seizure of capital or class war involved (think Sanders).

You're a generalizing dipshit, m8.
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>>74365541
That is the exact definition. I can't make it any clearer than that.

Socialism thinks it can spend the money better than the people it took the money from. An impossibility.
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>>74360173
Watching the Brexit movie taught me quite a bit about how the EU works. Yikes!
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>capitalists import massive amounts of foreign labour for cheaper workers
>retards like OP will still blame socialism
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>>74365105
> That would be the USA and the Russians playing superpower in the middle east

Muslims have no autonomy, they must fight over tribal feuds. Europe has no autonomy, they must accept unlimited "refugees".... Everything is America and Russia's fault

> The Euro is failing, not the European market itself.
> European market

what market?

> All EU member countries' external debt piled together does not come anywhere close to the USA's 19 trillion.

Yeah, but we have a massive army, so our debt doesn't really matter.
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>>74365614
>MUH special brand of socialism has never been done
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>>74365769
Merkel is not a Capitalist.
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>You don't think future generations will look back on this brave man as a hero? Young boys will pretend to be him, and young girls will hang posters of him on their walls. Hymns will be sung for him, families will gather annually in remembrance of him. A true hero.

This is the scariest thing I have ever read on the Internet. It's scary because it's the truth. I can imagine 15 year old boys looking back on him and thinking "Holy shit, that man was a hero!". I don't want to live on this planet anyomre. Aliens, please, destroy his shithole of a planet.
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>>74365855
I'm pretty sure he's a christian democrat and he's doing it for muh jeebus and for muh corporations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Union_of_Germany

Eat a grenade, shill.
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>>74365815
>muh ideology is simple
>if only we could annihilate all statism, things would work out
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>>74361201
>fix those countries
>pour billions into Africa
>kill brutal Middle Eastern dictators

Hahahahahahaha. That's exactly the opposite of what needs to happen. Africa's over population, and the Middle East shit show, are direct conquences of the Left's insistent needed to help, which they do through globalism.

Leave people the fuck alone. No reparations, no interfering. You'll just make things worse.
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>>74360173
for all of you retarded communists, take a look at my country
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>>74365925
And I'm pretty sure she went to school in the DDR where she learned all her Socialist tricks.
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>>74360630
nah ppl dont learn, look at africa / zimbabwe / south africa / Detroit.
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>>74360377
/thread
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>>74360173
Glorious. I'd welcome the wholesale extinction of humanity before submitting to that dead cocksucker Marx.
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>>74365786
>Everything is America and Russia's fault

Indeed it is. Russia has lost all its precious post-WW2 influence, and the same thing has been happening to the US ever since after 2008. Your permanent war economy is a millstone around your household's neck in an increasingly peaceful world. Yet you can't retreat, because that would mean an advantage for the fucking Russkies. Both your nations will deplete themselves so much that all our descendants will be China's lackeys. Well we're making sure that we'll be China's favorite lackeys.
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>>74360173
you tell me since your country is experienced with all these problems.
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>>74366039
Everytime someone asks her about she claims that she had to do it or she wouldn't be allowed to go to uni.

Fucking lying bitch
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>mass refugee immigration
western(american) failed foreign policy, individualism and "human rights" has done this.
all american ideas bullied upon the rest of us
>failing economy
so many other reasons, dont be silly
>far left hug box safe spaces
American problem, not european
>massive debt
have you even looked at debt charts?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
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>>74366351
> Cuck: The Post

This is really pathetic, how about taking some responsibility for your own problems. You sound like a common nigger.
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>>74360874
Massive foreign debt means nothing if you have nukes.
If you are a total cuck and can't even protect your own border from inbred retards then it's really unsalvageable.
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>>74366707
see
>>74366734
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>>74366546

Why is she still alive ?
Look at based japs, this is what 1 man can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KROpdUkrM
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>>74366734
My country has been kept down by your country. Decade after decade, your leaders exploited every means in the book to make sure Germany wouldn't be anything more than a provincial model student. Every one of our attempts to assume a more powerful status was met with insults, ridicule, even covert threats of coup d'état and belligerence. This was done so much that the German leadership has no desire to influence anything anymore, nothing aside from the European neighborhood that is. And why would they even want to? They are not responsible for this mess you made and have no intention to compromise on our livelihoods because of it.
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>>74366222
>niggers
>people
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>>74361114
>Better learn spanish amigo

Actually
>Black Birthrates are dropping
>Hispanics are experiencing a baby bust due to not being able to afford the price of living in the western states.
>Southern and midwest whites are the only ones growing at the moment.
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>>74363124
>Marxism and Socialism are the exact same thing.
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>>74363134
Globalists are reformed Marxists with far left social beliefs and capitalist economic beliefs. It's just tweaked communism. And yes many are jews.
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>>74368133
Got any source for that?
>implying spics and nigs can into reason
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Really?
Nordic countries are socialist and they have the best economies and highest human development in the world
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>>74366825
>>74366734
it's the truth you dumb fuck
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>>74360173
What does that have to do with socialism you dumb fuck?
Do you even know what socialism is?
How is free trade and open borders a socialist idea?
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>>74360630
Well, i hope we will survive this, but in case we don't, just nuke us America, just nuke us...
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>>74360173

Our universities are a hive of fascists compared to yours ...

The difference between us is that we're not an Island far away from Africa and the Middle East, as well as the fact that we aren't a good goy army in employ of the Jews.

They want us dead, they just want to brown you up a little.
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>>74365966
Please no
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>>74366546
Bring the reich back please. Fucking kill the enemies of Europe. I want to go back to my grandfather's country not Pakistan.
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>>74367371
This, current Germany is the product of allied reconstruction. They are literally a product of what the allies built, it's like people don't remember Germany was occupied.
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>>74368549
Scandinavian countries have less income on average than US household, even if you take the median income its still something like $5000 lower per year. Those numbers take all social transfers, taxes and healthcare payments into account. Source: OECD statistics.

On top of that, Scandinavian countries had a very long history of free market before they established the welfare state. The company taxes and regulations are still really low, the welfare is mainly paid for by taxing. Denmark has taxation rates of something like 55% of income.
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>>74361973
subsidization of wages from Walmart and McDonalds. Which is why a livable minimum wage is essential to people not receiving government handouts, but when the profit margins of mega-corporations are seen as more important than the well-being of the general populous, that's what you get.
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>>74372764

Median is more important than average.

Also the US has been running a trade deficit for nearly half a century, not a luxury many other countries have.
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>>74367371
We could've left you to be taken over by the Soviets, how'd that work out for the Soviet satellite nations?
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>>74373306
The only reason why the Soviets were even able to take half of Europe is the Lend-Lease act, signed by Faggot Douche Roosevelt
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>>74364920
>Tell that to the people who died during the depression.
>Please read a book. You're so uneducated it's actually sad.
There were something like 100 confirmed deaths by starvation during the depression. Which is slightly higher than the usual average of something like 20 deaths by starvation each year, which are mainly due to neglect of elderly or children.

The only real increase of death during the depression was due to suicide.

http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/12297/how-many-people-in-the-us-starved-to-death-during-the-great-depression
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>>74360173
No it's USA. Stop destabilising all the countries. Vietnam, Iran Iraq, taliban, Lydia, Syria and ukrain. Just stop it faggot
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>>74360173
Ya got me
Guess I'm a #Hillionaire
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>>74375339

>It's America's fault I let my country turn to shit

You sound like an arab.
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should've kept that socialism NATIONAL
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>>74362409
>It is CAPITALISTS who are trying to relax immigration laws and erode borders.
Welfare is the reason heaps of human trash comes to Europe, not open borders. They don't stay in Poland, Hungary or Greece where there are really low payments, they go directly to Germany or Sweden, cause they want more gibsmedat.

If we had open borders but no welfare we'd only get those that were actually able to integrate and contribute to society, and there would be no problem at all. The problem are the welfare queen mudslibs that stay at home and have nothing else to do than to produce 10 children while indoctrinating them with ALLAHU AKBAR all day.

>Not a single European country is remotely socialist. They are all state capitalist economies.
European countries are social democracies. Its the only form of socialism that even remotely works in practice, cause it basically just leeches off of a working capitalist society. Real socialism managed to fuck up every single country it was ever tried in, which is why there is luckily no "real socialism" anymore, cause nobody is stupid enough to try it again.
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>>74360173
Man why the fuck is the name sideways
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>which is why there is luckily no "real socialism" anymore, cause nobody is stupid enough to try it again
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>>74360173
Socialism cannot survive Globalism, plain and simple

Of course...At this point I'm not entirely confident Capitalism, Democracy, Republics, Free markets, or the western tradition altogether is going to survive Globalism.

Really the only thing That I am one hundred percent positive that will survive it is Communism, but that's only because it makes nations so shitty no one wants to go there in the first place IE Cuba, China and N. Korea
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>>74362025
>workers

lmao, they're not workers. the whole reason they come is so they don't have to work

it's much better for a capitalist to open a factory where they come from and where there's no worker rights and minimum wage
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