https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bU92oE
Jehova's Witnesses have released this anti gay-marriage video.
Do you agree/disagree?
>>74334630
>the mom is brown
>>74334630
You put me in a tough position.
On the one hand, it opposes same sex "marriage."
On the other JWs are a cult of deranged psychos that austricize apostates, destroy families, killed Prince and countless others with their assanine hatred of medicine, predicted an apocalypse that never came and are self-defeating Stepford Smilers who hate life and themselves along with being neo-Arians with their heretical non-Trinitarian Christology.
>>74334800
Lots of Christian missionaries go to South America and pick up the local women. Jeb Bush did something similar
>>74334860
>austricize
>assanine
>neo-Arians
>>74334630
Yes homosexuality should be outlawed.
How can you be anti-gay? Homosexuals are anti-normality. Therefore, being anti-gay is being anti-anti-normality. How does that even make sense? How many anti is too many?
>>74334800
God doesn't care about race you moron.
Truly though...
Nothing is more beautiful than the unison between a woman and man...
do you guys really hate the gays? why are you forcing your ideology on them? gays are everywhere and they're just fine
>>74335159
Exclusive homosexuality is insanely bad for the individual and society at large. Incidental homosexuality is normal male sexual behaviour and is completely healthy and natural.
>>74334630
someone should do an evolutionary, anti-gay video. cause evolutionarily speaking, how would species survive if homosexuality where to run rampant?
the whole homozexuality is seen in animals thing can be refuted with: animals may participate in homosexual activity, but they still want ot produce offspring aswell, they do not define themselves by their pleasure seeking activities.
>>74335011
No, that makes being anti-gay pro-normality, which is a good thing. Why are you dumb?
>>74335159
hate the sin not the sinner
>>74335159
There is nothing wrong with gays as much there is nothing wrong with psychopaths as long as they dont start killing
>>74335316
Christchan needs to go outside and get some sun.
Bisexual here. Am I degenerate if I don't act like a fruity fag?
>>74335316
feel free to hate the idea of homosexuality, but don't keep people from their equal rights
>>74335482
???
explain
>>74334630
>Creepy
IT'S CREEPY CUZ I DON'T AGREE WITH IT!!11!
>>74335243
I dont give a fuck a where you stick your dick in, but most gays act like faggots, which is why i hate gay culture and most fags.
>incidental homosexuality is normal male sexual behavior and is completely healthy and natural
No its not, keep telling yourself that though, fag
>>74334630
They actually just call him Jehova every time?
>>74335788
so?
>>74335159
I hate faggots and their parades. I also hate the fact finnish media tries to drown us in gay cocks.
Apart from that I dont care.
>>74335159
Of course. I do not despise gays who refuse to act on their perversions and actively suppress them in thought and action. I hate the gays who indulge in their sick fantasies and thereby degenerate our society and the moral authority of Christianity. They should be smitten.
>>74335577
>rights are good for their own sake
Literally kill yourself lolbertarian faggot
>>74334943
Spelling aside, he's correct. Jehova's Witnesses are a crazy cult. Above Scientology, below Mormons.
Jehova >>>>>>> mormon
>>74334630
I agree homosexuality is a bad thing, as it's literally degenerate. But, like with abortion, if someone wants to do bad things I'm not at liberty to stop them unless I know them closely.
>>74335956
lol, lick more boots, commie
Up until recently I believed that homosexuality was just a chemical imbalance that you couldn't help, but after doing some research I found that decades ago, civil rights activists lobbied hard to put pressure on medical institutions that considered homosexuality a treatable mental illness. Apparently the institutions didn't want to take the heat from the at the time powerful civil rights movement, so they took homosexuality off of their mental illness lists. Now I'm not sure what to believe.
>>74335888
It just feels kind of weird. I was under the impression that only sand niggers did that.
>>74334630
This is very well done. Jehovah's Witnesses will burn in hell eternally for their heretical beliefs and doom countless souls to oblivion by indoctrinating their offspring with heresy, but they did a nice job on this one!
>>74335098
race mixing is a sin, God made the races seperate for a reason
>>74336015
do you even know what a cult is? if they were a cult then their meetings wouldn't be open to the public, but they are open to the public
>>74336074
I'm a Christian Supremacist, you 14 year old who just took a civics class. We should live as Christ intended.
>>74336086
It's a mental illness. Never doubt it. It may not be treatable, that does not make it any more acceptable.
>>74335098
Pretty sure he does. The KKK used religion to justify their racism. Also the bible was used to put forth laws against interracial marriage.
>>74336150
Please quote a line in the Bible to confirm this. You know Moses' wife was a foreigner, right? In fact, he gives a talking to to some racist who was bitching about Moses being married to her at one point. God is fine with interracial marriage.
>post on FB that trans people are sexual deviants
>girl responds woah bro that's like trump saying mexicans are all murderers
>>74336165
All religions are cults, jackass. There's nothing that separates a cult from a religion other than quantity of adherents and that's dubious at best.
>implying early christians were considered cultists for following some guy
>implying there weren't cults to Athena/Zues/Posiedan back in greece
>>74336190
>he actually took "/pol/ is a christian board" seriously
anon you can't seriously believe that stuff, sure i get you hate degeneracy but the whole christian stuff, really? how can you believe that to be true?
>>74334630
My dad is JW i used to be one which i probably go back again now that im seeing the world turning into shit. The JW organization is against the degeneracy and kike enabled ideas!
>>74336237
No, the Bible was MISUSED to justify racism.
>“There is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him” (Romans 10:12)
Now, God did command the Israelites not to intermarry with foreigners in the Old Testament, but that was due to religious reasons. He did not want them to marry Pagans. You could use this to justify not wanting to give interreligious marriages, but interracial marriages? I don't think
>http://www.gotquestions.org/interracial-marriage.html
>>74336240
https://www.openbible.info/topics/race_mixing
>>74335316
Being gays not a sin my friend, read God and the Gay Christian.
>>74336317
I have my doubts, as any man of faith does. I choose to believe. Even if I did not, though, I would still be a Christian supremacist. Life under a Christian theocracy would be so much better than what we have now. All the permanence of a theocracy with the compassion of Christianity.
>>74336315
>"religions are cults"
you're a retard
>>74336086
Generally speaking, the faggotry that most people talk about is a mental illness. They're messed up in the head so they have natural sexual arousal from the same sex instead of the opposite one like they should. It's a biological thing in this case, so it isn't like someone can get counseling for it or pray away the gay. I don't expect a "cure" or treatment to happen anytime soon even if it wouldn't be taboo to suggest it be researched. What seems more likely to me is that early screening will develop for it, potentially with preventive measures. At the very least, the screening for it will allow for the messed up fetus to be aborted, like what already happens with down syndrome.
Now, there are some people that are homosexual without being messed up this way. This is real degeneracy there, people that actually choose to be homosexual for fetishistic reasons or due to not being able to get a heterosexual relationship going. I actually knew a guy that trained himself to become gay by fapping to a progression of pornography until it was just the full on gay stuff. I don't remember all the steps. I remember threesomes and traps were two of the steps, but it was just ludicrous. I told him that will all that effort he could just get a girlfriend, but he just hated women too much.
>>74336345
Is it anything like the Speedwagon Foundation?
I'm an atheist, but it seems like the most positive, non hateful way to teach children about that particular doctrine. Where is the malace in this cartoon? All they do is say they're wrong, not to hate or injur them.
>>74336418
>Literally kill yourself lolbertarian faggot
yeah, so 'compassionate'. retard
>>74336452
Divorce religions from cults.
I'll wait.
protip: your feelies don't count.
>>74336464
I think you believe you know more about the subject than you really do. Or maybe you know a lot more about than you want to be let known.
>>74336345
>The JWs are so adherent to the Bible (How To Be A Jew For Dummies) that they celebrate no secular holiday, nor do they participate in democracy
>The JW organization is against the degeneracy and kike enabled ideas!
>>74334630
Oh man this bring back the feels.
Got "involved" with the jaydubs back in highschool. Pretended to be one for the free food, and the copious pussy to be found in their ranks. At first I thought they were kind of weird, but I respected how they backed up their beliefs with actual scripture and the work they put behind their ideas.
The more I hung out with them, the less weird they got. However, after I REALLY got to know them and the facade peeled away, I realized how ridiculously fucked up they are. They are a straight up fucking cult filled with sociopaths.
>>74336411
Most of these quotes are regarding a religious law from the Old Testament that forbade Israelites to marry foreigners because foreigners followed false Gods (remember that Judaism was a religion based on ethnic make up) and such and so on. Even if you interpret this strictly, it means that no Israelites (they no longer exist) can marry a foreigner. Not Christians from like Ireland or some shit.
It explicitly says this law is for religion reasons in Deuteronomy 7:3-4, "You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons, for they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods."
>>74336501
Yea I thought it was pretty good too
could have used a better analogy but eh
>>74336557
spare me your whole fedora routine and go look up their respective definitions. two different words. two different contexts. two different things. you pedantic faggot
>>74336165
Cults can be open to the public, just look at Scientology. Cults want people to join, although often they hide some of their more crazy stuff behind further layers.
>>74336315
>>74336452
No, he's right, Leaf. He's probably using the older, technically correct denotative definition of Cult rather than the typical connotative definition most people use for it. Of course, the problem with connotation is that different people think different things. You for instance had a different idea for what involved a "cult".
Look up the word Cult in the dictionary, you'll see he's right as far as technical definitions go. It just isn't really used that way anymore.
>>74336504
literally kill yourself is a meme, nigger. I don't actually mean it and you might be retarded if you think I do.
>>74334860
>hatred of medicine
>Neo-Arians
Sounds like /pol/ to me.
![sparlock-the-warrior-wizard-21[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/34HyEB2.jpg "sparlock-the-warrior-wizard-21[1].jpg")
Check out my sweet new toy, /pol/!
>>74336674
your ideology is a meme you fucking bible thumper
>>74336638
>would be worth it for a QT3.14 Creampie Surprise
>>74336659
Dudeweed leafman, have you looked it up?
>>74336661
>>74336767
>In the sociological classifications of religious movements in English, a cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices - wikipedia
>>74336644
Alright, let me get this straight. Since the New Testament does not nullify the Old Testament and both of them are suppose to be used in tandem. this means that Christian Israelites (Converted Jews) may not marry people of other races.
Right?
>>74336661
>>74336659
>look up the definitions
Give me the definition you want to use instead of waffling without an argument. Because a cult is a religion without mainstream acceptance.
What do you think cults do that religions don't? What do religions do that cults don't?
And yes my definition is very much still in use today. Unless you're considering how a government defines a religion, which is literally just a means of avoiding taxation and any 5 guys in a barn can form a church and start collecting untaxed donations while being recognized as a bonafide religion.
>>74334860
>On the other JWs are a cult of deranged psychos
Oh boy, how fucking bluepilled can you get?
>>74336854
Did you cite wikipedia against a dictionary?
Going off Sociology, one of the softest sciences of muh feels there is?
That other anon was right in using the word Cult to describe religions, it's just a bit outdated. That's why the religion of the empire in the elder scrolls is referred to as the Imperial Cult for instance.
Anyway, by the sociological pseudoscience definition that most people, including myself, tend to use out of simplicity Jehovah's Witnesses are a crazy cult.
>>74336476
what?
>>74336635
From my experience in the organization that i spent i was told that the jews or current israelites are not the chosen people or were chosen by god. The powerful jews of today are being used by the great evil one the one who is behind all the problems in the world. JW and jews are not the same we have different beliefs tho we read the bible and we follow it through much like every christian sect!
>>74334860
Their policy on blood transfusions is totally retarded. They quote a section of the old testament that says something along the lines of "if you ingest blood you will be cut off from the people" they take this to mean, if you put blood into your body, you are "cut off" which to them means disfellowshipped, which is pretty much excommunication. In their minds, if your disfellowshipped, you might as well kill yourself.
However, here is the real bullshit. If you continue to read the same passage in the old testament, it continues to say "You will be cut off from the people.............for TWO WEEKS" They totally leave that part out. The passage also mentions its totally ok to come back as long as you don't have obvious signs of disease. It does not take a genius to figure out that this passage is pretty much just talking about taking health precautions. I am sure they noticed blood borne diseases exist, so if someone "ingested" some blood it was best to quarantine them for a few weeks and watch for signs of disease.
>>74337005
Jehova's Witnesses are gullible book salesmen that pad the wallets of the watchtower publishers and their council members while relinquishing control of their family unit to the elders.
They're pretty damned retarded if they take it seriously.
>>74337005
Less bluepilled than a poor Jehovah's Witness cuck.
>>74337041
May I become one?
Sounds comfy
Also I am aware that Jews are Satan and this world is unbalanced between good and evil right now
>>74336932
>>74337028
shut the fuck up. you know exactly what the word "cult" conventionally springs to mind for people who hear it. nobody uses "cult" as a replacement word for "religion" except you faggy pedantic redditors
>>74336501
You have a lot more to fear from people trying to do you good, whether you like it or not.
>>74334630
>creepy
I fucking hate this word
>>74336890
According to proper (Catholic) doctrine, no, that provision does not exist. I don't know exactly why though, sorry man. Take it up with the Vatican.
I could see how a more heretically minded person might interpret the Bible that way, though.
>>74337184
How do you go about finding out your heritage? I don't know where to start.
>>74334630
R34 FUCKING WHEN BITCH
>>74337184
sure just go to one of their meetings or their website.
>>74337241
>d-don't call my cult a cult
>n-no, I can't prove how it's different from other cults
>fucking redditors keep pointing out I'm a faggot that gets hung up on words and definitions
I don't give a fuck what you call an organized set of beliefs, I want you to recognize that a mainstream religion is only given prominence because it's got a lot of followers. There's no special distinction between it and other groups with a set of beliefs.
If you want to form something that makes your beliefs legitimate and unique compared to others, then go ahead.
I'm not even saying there's no god or harhar athiesm wins again. You're just up your own ass about something you hold no moral highground on.
>>74337060
Along with how you have to be really fucking retarded to consider the transfusion process "ingesting blood."
>>74337028
>critiques wikipedia as a source
>uses fucking elder scrolls as a source
kill yourself
>>74337241
Slow down there, crazy cultist Cucknadian. You're mad as hell that you got called out, so you try and claim people are redditors? Step it up, Leaf.
If you paid any attention to what was being posted, you'd see that most people are using Cult in the more popular sense, of a small, crazy and malicious group. So things like Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses.
Be honest Leaf, are you a Jehovah's Witness?
>>74334630
idk man this seems perfectly legitimate viewpoint whether you agree or disagree
liberals will call this hate speech though
>>74334630
I think its funny but realistically i don't give a fuck
>>74334630
>>74334630
>>74334630
>>74334630
>>74334630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8hefESt7c
>>74337005
Have you actually spent extensive time with JWs?
Their goody-two shoes exterior is completely false. They literally have workshops on how to hide their complete disdain and hatred of non-JWs. They even tell their kids that they cannot really be friends with a non-JW.
Despite pretending to be a JW to get food and pussy, and being a total atheist, after hanging out with them long enough I took on this same mentality. Was walking in a store and started feeling disgust at the people around me. Thought to myself how subhuman and ignorant the non-JWs around me are. How could these people live their lives without the TRUTH? Realized what I was doing there and freaked out. I don't even believe it myself and I was already doing shit like this.
Pretty much if you grow up a JW you are fucked. You will only have friends and connections that are JW and will grow up extremely sheltered from reality, if you ever decide to leave, you will have no where to go or anything to rely on. They also practice some extreme nepotism that would put the jews to shame, but this is made so you are totally reliant on the church and can never leave.
I hope it goes without saying that there's no evidence for anything they believe, and a lot of it is provably false by any standard.
>>74337469
>>74337028
Did you really just respond to my same post twice, CultCuck?
I didn't use Elder Scrolls as a source, just as an example that might help others understand. I used Webster's dictionary as a source.
If that isn't pleasant enough for you, crazy CultCuck, then here is Oxford as well. You'll see the other anon was still right by Oxford in his use of the word Cult.
Of course, when I refer to Jehovah's Witnesses I use the more common definition of a small group of crazies following some strange beliefs, which tend toward the sinister.
>>74337470
I agree with you.
I'm an athiest who pretended to be a JW, and yes the JWs are a fucking cult. It gave me a real appreciation for "regular" Christians. JW and "Christians" are two different things.
>>74337449
>>74337470
>holding any set of belief system = cult
>christianity = cult
>believing in evolution = cult
>/pol/ = cult
again, you're just continuing to be a pedantic faggots
>Jehova's Witnesses
Is there any worse branch of Christianity? Just a bunch of crazy spic/gook missionaries.
faggotry stumped. Looks like I'm a #JehovahJavelin now
>>74334630
very informative
>>74337241
I thought you JWs were not supposed to use foul language?
Go run to your kingdom hall and ask to get disfelloweshipped.
This religion destroyed my childhood and my family.
If any sort of anti-religion movement takes off in America, I will be the first to flip the gas chamber switches.
>>74335098
This is why Christcucks need to be purged.
>>74337768
nice try, reddit but i'm not a JW
>>74337691
I'm glad that you admitted you were wrong, Leaf, that's the first step toward making yourself better.
Now, Jehovah's Witnesses are a Cult in the more common definition, of being a group of psycho nuts believing some really crazy shit to the extent it gets in the way of their normal lives.
>>74337691
>all this stuff
>somehow a refutation
/pol/ exhibits cultlike tendencies, yea. Is that supposed to make me fall out of my chair and rethink my life?
You've attacked nothing I hold savior with your busted ass mirror.
>>74337825
Sure you're not. Go back to whatever reddit group they have for you Jehovah's Witnesses, CultCuck.
Why can't more cults be like the Amish?
>>74334630
>Y-you'll be happy with a bitch nagging you every day and finally divorcing you to fuck tyrone and get some of that good money.
FUCK OFF, STUPID FUCKS.
>>74334630
MAGA
yeah this is totally creepy
way worse than the FKH8 campaign with small children spewing obscenities and 8 year old boys tongue kissing eachother
>>74334630
the animation was actually really good, and i enjoyed the art style
its all nonsense but the guy who made this is talented and should work in hollywood
>>74337834
look how you can't even properly address the post because you know you just fucked your own argument by giving the word "cult" such a loose definition. this is why retards like you don't get to twist real definitions of words
>>74337970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0
Hyper religious stuff can get damned experimental sometimes.
>>74337960
It certainly is, if you know the history of the kind of harm that do-gooders can do. It's nothing compared to what whiny adults fail to accomplish.
>>74334800
JWs tend to be brown. Lots of Hispanics and darkies. Their books other publications usually have brown folks in them.
>>74337970
The 3D models looked like disney ripoffs, tho.
>OP's video is wrong
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH4kbybo60Y some how has millions of views and 60k likes
This is the grave of the guy who founded JWs.
>>74338018
Words can have multiple meanings, Leafposter. Just because you got mad and defensive (I believe you redditors refer to it as "triggered"?) when someone pointed out that Jehovah's Witnesses are a Cult, it doesn't mean they're wrong.
The funny thing here is that Jehovah's Witnesses are a Cult by both definitions.
>>74334630
>short-haired Jesus
I cringe everytime
>>74335745
I agree with you on the acting like fags, that irritates me. But it also irritates normal gay people. A good mate of mine recently told me he was gay, there was literally no indication for this by the way he acted.
>TL:DR over the top gays ruin it for the normal gays
>>74337886
>/pol/ exhibits cultlike tendencies
so you admit being part of a cult in which case chastising JWs as being a cult is hypocritical. you faggot
>>74337895
>implying reddit isn't for atheistfags like you
you need to go back, redditcuck
Was anyone else here raised JW? Share horror stories.
>Wasn't allowed to watch Care Bears because it was "demonic"
>>74338018
Quakers have been known to burn themselves alive. Doesn't take much for someone who thinks he's got tickets to Heaven.
A lot of religious people will express a bit of incredulity about how they still believe the fable-like history in their books. But some religions have conditioned this humble reaction out. They replace it with passive-aggressive statements like "It's His plan."
They think they Know for sure.
>>74338286
How did you get free? Did you save anyone in your escape?
>>74335098
AFTER THEIR OWN KIND
>tfw I grew up as a JW
It is absolutely a fucking cult. Don't believe their lies anons.
>>74335289
Or, ducks gangrape other ducks, is gangrape therefore okay since animals do it as well?
>>74336890
It specifically mentions 7 nations from that era that were forbidden to marry. Those nations no longer exist, including the ancient Israelites.
>>74338254
What are you even arguing about anymore, you shitposting Leaf? You're just arguing for the sake of arguing, mad that you're wrong. You get so riled up in your shitposting you try and just claim someone is from reddit? That's just sad, Leaf. Perhaps the truth is that you would fit in better there.
>>74338329
they are growing fast here.
>the dad cucked his children with a brown girl whos drawn like a white woman
racemixers never draw non-whites like non-whites because they know that non-whites are repulsive
>Let's practice preaching to the child that drew the picture who isn't to blame for the dyke's degeneracy
Her daughter preaching to the other kid won't solve shit.
>>74338254
Difference is pol is a bathroom stall at a truck stop that asks nothing of me. Just so happens the people that use it like to shit on the floor and write obscene comments on the walls.
You're pretending JW's aren't doing the same crap but with prettier words and less graffiti.
Ultimately pol isn't a cult or a religion. It's a place. But it does create cults of personality from time to time as well as lame golden bull surrogates.
>you're a hypocrite
I can be part of a cult and recognize it's a cult at the same time. Wouldn't make me a hypocrite. Would just make me not an idiot. You seem to be hung up on this notion that all cults are evil divisive sects. What you're not realizing is that they're only evil divisive sects because they're failed religions. In a war where the ammo is dogma and words, the religion with the broadest appeal and strongest defense against competing theory to its dogma will win.
>>74338183
>Words can have multiple meanings
what a vague and completely unfounded statement. try harder, redditcuck. this isn't about strictly just "words" or homonyms but rather the definition. idc what you have to say about them as long as what you say is true like how they inaccurately predicted the apocalypse but don't be a pedantic faggot who regurgitates the whole "JW's are a cult" shit without any evidence
>>74338462
Might be a necessary evil to combat the influx of Islam.
>>74334630
Lots of righteous and degenerates despise faggots. Regardless, JWs are among the degenerates right alongside the muzzies and mormons.
>>74338577
no, because they are the muslims of Christianity. even more than the evangelicals.
>>74338318
and people goto wars. the circle of life
>>74338329
How did you escape? Did you save any others in your breakout?
>>74334630
>that fucking like:dislike ratio
I do not believe in any religion at all and I strongly dislike and disapprove of homosexuality, especially the parading and normalization of it. We cannot ignore that homosexuals exist, but we should acknowledge that it is not normal behavior and homosexuals should not go around having parades and announcing their sexuality (should just keep it to themselves like everyone else).
>>74338652
Probably Watchtower bots generated to dislike any dissent.
>>74338626
That's because the pay is good and they give you friends. There's still some Kool-Aid but not as much cyanide as an apocalypse cult.
>>74338551
>Still trying to say things like redditcuck to fit in
Oh man, this fucking leaf. I'm done with this conversation. I'm arguing with a leaf that already lost and just wants to keep arguing for the sake of arguing.
Go to reddit leaf, it's where you belong.
Seriously. A fucking leaf.
Lotta Jehovahs around where I live. Mostly Maori. They have to walk a long way to get where I live and slip their pamphlets under my door. You'd think they'd stop wasting their time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw1Vg8HsMK4
Are Jehovah's the lowest form of Christian?
I mean, they're worse than Mormons and Pentecostals.
>>74338820
Ever been to a mega-church? Makes you feel like you just ate some plastic wrap.
>>74338458
you need to admit that you were wrong and just stop replying instead of being a pedantic fedora faggot who thinks that the word "cult" draws up the exact same connotations as the word "religion" does or as if they're the same thing. unless your premise is that any set of beliefs whether trivial or non-trivial automatically classifies the believers as cultists you're being a contradictory, inconsistent fuckwad
>>74338755
>jesus is a super angel
Whoooaaaaaaaa. Ok. Hol up. Pretty big as fuck issue they got right there.
Here's a nasty little secret that Jehova's don't like to tell people.
But when you see them on the street, ask them about it
They teach that people DON'T go to heaven when they die. Nope. Instead you rot in the ground until the second coming.
It's true. Look it up for yourself.
Only their "select" group gets to go right to heaven. It creates a convenient caste system for their little cult.
>>74338918
How is a religion different from a cult?
It should be easy to answer since you feel so strongly that there's a distinct line. I mean, if you can't produce a line, why bother arguing it?
>>74338978
Yes, I thought that was well known about them.
>>74334800
The only Jehovah witness I met was a nigger
>>74338715
Or sane people that realize what a bunch of shit religion is. Don't get me wrong, I don't love fags, but I don't love religion either considering it's the most bluepilled thing on the planet.
>>74334630
Libertarian Marxist here so I disapprove that video.
>>74339008
He's a leaf, don't bother. Just ignore him and let him rot.
>>74339008
Image.
>>74339008
It's the difference between a business and a corporation.
Jehovah isn't even a real word. It's literally a bad translation of Yahweh. A lot of people don't know that and assume Jehovah is another word for God, which it is not.
>>74338724
the fact that you think calling anyone a "redditcuck" is an attempt to "fit in" proves that you're a former redditor. you need to go back, kid
>>74338978
>this is a nasty secret
No it's not. Even in the king james bible only like 144 thousand people ever enter the kingdom. I don't recall the exact number. Jehovah's just call those 144k the first helpers in the new kingdom or something. Everyone else has to prove they're not shit after the first wave of beta invites. Then they get a nod from a helper.
>>74339041
>Libertarian Marxist
Let's stop with this meme, guys. It's not funny anymore.
>>74339040
That wouldn't be it. Tippers would like it for being done to call to light JW retardation. If you dislike a video like this, it's because you are the target of criticism.
>>74334800
Okay, well, I'm going to say this now. It's a very low budget, shitty, computer graphic animation. A lot of these animations tend to use shit colors, like dark browns, greens, and yellows. So there you go.
Why would they spend any of their profits on this ad? They need the money to buy their porsches, you know.
>>74334630
i was pretty much with that (aside from calling God Jehova) until she said people can change. why not mind your own fucking business? what are you going to say to a 7 year old, your parents are degenerate freaks? at least wait till high school to drop reality checks on kids that their faggot parents are mentally ill.
>>74334860
>destroys families
>tfw my sister converted to JW from Catholicism when I was 12 and when she got knocked up (lol) at 18
>tfw now 13 years later she's finally forsaken celebrating holidays with her family
that's fine, i dont need to see her if she's literally in a cult. spends her weekends with the charles manson family and then doesnt come to family gatherings. im just bummed my niece and nephew cant experience the joy of christmas, or dress up for halloween, etc.
if she refused a blood transplant for either of them that ended badly i'd probably kill her
>>74334630
That's rich coming from them considering how much they love to hide child molestation. I mean, say what you will about the Catholics, at least now they're apologizing, and if you look at the numbers, there are just as many pedos in the Church as there are in real life. Not so with the JW's. The whole thing was created based off of "Well Jesus came to earth invisibly when WWI started". It's utter bullshit. Not only that, but not once does God say that his name is "Jehovah", it was an arbitrary name they picked. You also can't involve yourself in politics whatsoever, that includes voting, and you can't celebrate holidays. When Hitler rose to power, they supported him, yet Hitler gassed them anyway. No wonder.
>>74339073
>It's literally a bad translation of Yahweh
Man, most words are bad translations of another. King James uses it which makes it as official as any religious fan-fic.
>>74339008
again, stop being a pedantic faggot. you already know what a cult is. every actual known cult has esoteric belief systems and meetings that aren't shared with or open to the general public.
>>74338978
This is common knowledge.
Hell to JW's is simply eternal death
They still believe that the good will eventually be resurrected in to the "New System" after God destroys the current Earth and recreates it
Those who go to Heaven are basically only there to be God's servants or some shit
>>74339153
But it is entirely possible to dislike crazy cults and faggots.
Like hating Jews and Muslims.
I'll say it again: Hitler was supported by the Jehovah's Witnesses. Hitler thought they were dumb, so he gassed them.
>>74334630
why is this a
>creepy cartoon that indoctrinates children.
but this is totally fine
>>74339282
No one here is being pedantic but you because someone upset your feels by calling your religion a cult.
Get over it, faggot.
>>74338286
>not allowed to watch the Smurfs or basically anything fantastical
>not allowed to play M-rated games until I was 14 or 15, much later than most of my peers. even then I had to hide much of the content from them, could basically only play when I was home alone
>grandmother didn't talk to my aunt for years because she left, I only saw her once or twice a year, if that
>bullied extremely hard Kinder-3rd that I actually had to leave that school, elders didn't give a shit and just said it would make my faith stronger or some shot like that
>that experience and the general isolation and xenophobia obliterated any chance I had at forming normal social skills
>have to spend several years learning to interact with normal people
>can't even trust anyone because of the fakeness and judgement within the JW community
>parents never accept any friends I make outside, never let me have sleepovers or stay out after midnight
>parents spend years trying to force the utterly bland and somehow still self-righteous JW kids onto me
>elders continued to pester me and try and blackmail, bribe, or coax me into coming back despite me making it very clear wanted nothing to do with it
The worst was how it prayed on the mentally weak, all the shit they tell them to try and convince them to join. The big cornerstone of their faith is that the righteous will live forever in an earthly paradise, free from illness or pain. They hammer in the freedom from illness so it keeps the mentally and physically I'll dependent.
>>74338646
My parents were never as strict as some, they usually just defered judgement to my grandparents or the elders, who I actually managed to avoid for quite a while. My parents took a bit of a break for a few years and that's when I made a run for it. What bothers me to this day is that they never accepted it as my own decision, they blamed themselves for not taking me. I doubt this idea was their own.
>>74339390
>Implying it's one or the other
Both are creepy cartoons that indoctrinate children.
>>74339119
In the context of actual Christianity, 144,000 is both a way of saying "big group of people" poetically while also being an Arc Number (12) squared. The symbolism of 144,000 is best viewed alongside other instances of 12 in the Bible, just like 3 to 3, 4 to 4, 7 to 7 and 40 to 40.
>>74339422
You're still responding to the Leaf that is so retarded that he can't notice that he was talking to more than one person.
Just ignore him, he's a crazy cultcuck.
>>74336237
The way that the KKK justifies racism is by the idea that Black people can't actually conceptualize morals. God doesn't care about beings without the capability of being moral so therefore god wouldn't care. Now whether blacks can actually conceptualize morals is up for debate.
>>74339331
They're moron special flakes. Them and Mormons
>>74339422
Former JW here: It's a doomsday cult. This fag shouldn't even be on this board, he'd be disfellowshipped (JW speak for excommunicated) if it was found out that he was.
>>74339422
i'm not a JW you retard. just because i can't stand retards like you spouting "muh cult!" doesn't mean i'm a JW. if you went and learned some english then we wouldn't be having this discussion, pedro
>>74334860
>that austricize apostates
As opposed to modern tolerant religions that have dyke bishops for the sake of inclusiveness?
>>74339511
Yeah, for sure. Both are religions created out of thin air. Some fag just went "This happened" and people actually believed him. It's looked down upon in the JW cult to have children, which is the dumbest shit ever.
>>74339390
Because your pic is "progressive and tolerant." Duh.
Or are you an intolerant bigot?
>>74335159
No hate for gays. But they don't have the right to change what marriage is to please their disorder. If you're a fag you can get married with a woman, that's equal rights. Just because you're sexually attracted to other men don't get the right to change the institution of marriage.
You let them more power and they will try to force private institutions like the Church to "marry" gays.
If the state doesn't want to comply to the natural law, the only other libertarian option is removing marriage from the law entirely, so that it will only exist as a religious / private union. Only in that case a gay "marriage" would be acceptable as a private contract, that would be somewhat correct as long as you don't let them adopt children.
>>74334630
jesus fucking christ
>>74334630
I don't see the problem. At the beginning the mom literally tells her daughter that other people have their own beliefs and that is ok BUT this is what they practice and why they practice it.
>>74339531
I'm a former JW, and I'm telling you, yes, it's a cult. Would you consider Scientology a cult? Than so is the Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>74337362
Ancestry?
>>74339566
It's not even that it's just stupid shit like the Mormon dude in America dug up some lost tablets or some dumb shit it makes no sense and people Seriously believe it
>>74339516
I've worked with JW's. Let the guy speak for hours and hours. I have a pretty good gist of their dogma. Laughable as it is, was still a nice guy.
My take away was that they've been co-opted into becoming probona book salesmen for a publishing company in new york. And they have silly rules cuz religions have to have silly rules, but ultimately all it comes down to is that they're selling merchandise for Watchtower vigil or w/e it's called.
>>74339596
exactly they should come up with something else and call it GAYRRIGE or some shit idk
>>74339475
>"wahh he hurt muh feelings so i'll ignore him"
stay cucked, reddit
>>74339516
i'm actually not a JW and i wouldn't even say that if i was but tell us how assblasted you are to be disfellowshipped by them?
>>74334630
Reminds me of the space wizard toy video.
>friend gives you an awesome wizard toy
>mother guilt trips you into throwing it out because 'Jehovah doesn't like magic'
So bad. I noticed with the updated models in this video they changed their skin tone too.
>>74339613
Don't bother anon, he's a Leaf. He's beyond help.
>>74339613
so where is your evidence that it's a cult? don't be like those libtards who spout "muh racism", give us some evidence
I hate religious people more than I hate faggots
>>74339509
>Now whether blacks can actually conceptualize morals is up for debate.
Yeah, they can.
Source: I left my bedroom.
>>74339613
I met many JW and yes their a cult... but their way less mentally poisoning than other cults like marxism and public schools so you don't really have a point there.
>>74339658
It's a faith pyramid scheme. You're recruited so you can recruit more recruiters and then you all buy books. BTW, that guy had to talk about religion to you, it's part of the deal.
>>74339662
>everytime a new movie would come out, I'd give my coworker shit about him not being allowed to see it cuz someone may or may not have implied they casted a spell.
>>74339725
It's probably with your evidence that "cult" and "religion" mean two different things. :^)
>>74339557
Being apprehensive or cold to apostates is one thing, this is like how Muslims kill apostates only going for more of a psychological scourging.
Death would be preferable than complete abandonment by everyone you love since now they consider you less than nonexistent.
>>74339767
>he had to talk about religion to you
Joke's on him then, all I did was talk about snorting cocaine and fucking prostitutes and how great life was. All that wasted energy on his part.
>>74339607
And she says that people can change. That's creepy.
It's like:
P1: Hey will you go out with me?
P2: No, I don't think so.
P1: Well, you know, people can change.
>>74334630
If there's one thing life taught me, it's that people don't change.
And they certainly don't change their sexuality.
Forget about what happens to em with their beliefs. The fact they think you change is bullshit.
You can act straight, but you don't become it. Simple as.
>>74339660
Shut the fuck up, I left you faggot. You're definitely a JW, you'd never identify yourself. You're probably under 18 as well. By the way, I left because someone I know was molested and the Watchtower society did fuck all about it, the dude who did it got off scott free and now has kids and works with kids.
>tfw you will never, EVER get your Sparlock the Warrior Wizard toy back because that JW kid threw it out when you lent it to him
>jehovah's witness
>christian
>>74334877
>>74335925
>>74336190
>>74336315
>>74336317
>>74336418
It boggles my mind how ignorant atheists can be about religion.
How can atheists, who claim to be superior intellectually, mesh religions like mormonism and jehovah's witnesses which are cults with Christianity?
You learn that JW's and Mormons are cults in World Religions class...a class you take IN HIGHSCHOOL.
>>74339786
Serious kicked out of polite society shunning is the norm bro, this tolerant bullshit is degenerated from the norm.
It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
>>74339765
>so you don't really have a point there
We don't have to pick which cult we're going to follow.
>>74339725
For one, they encourage their people to shun anyone who dares speak out against the church, if you leave, your family is told that Satan has you etc., and to not speak to you.
>>74339885
>how are athiests so ignorant?
Dunno. Tell us which of those people you quoted are atheist.
>>74339885
>Americans
>Taking Religion classes in public education
>>74339885
>You learn that JW's and Mormons are cults in World Religions class
Hmm? Wow Canada, telling people which opinions are more toxic.
>>74335159
I don't hate gays. The reason why plays into the video. They can't change.
If you could, I doubt anyone would be gay. I can't sit there and say they disgust me. Maybe I would date a guy if he was feminine enough. Maybe I wouldn't. I don't fucking know. Sexuality is weird, and being gay doesn't hurt anyone.
I really do fucking hate the faggots that make their sexuality a big fucking deal though.
I don't, so you shouldn't either. If you wanna become equal, that's how you start.
>>74339885
>Arians aren't Christians
Agree about the Mormons though.
>>74339784
pedantic faggot detected. kill yourself, pedantic faggot
>>74339854
i'm not a JW and i'm not under 18. you faggot. also you clearly got disfellowshipped since you seem so 'triggered' by them
Fucking Jehova's witnesses keep harassing me with their bullshit. They come everyweek, I can't take it anymore.
>>74340125
Call the police, if you still have that in France.
>>74340125
Ask some of the former Jehovah's Witnesses here how to scare them away.
>>74334630
> ends with the mom teaching her daughter how to be a JW badger
what else would you expect, really...
>>74340160
Actually no, I'll have to beat them to death myself next time they come
>>74340288
Why not kidnap and unbrainwash them?
>>74340125
Don't you have lawyers and cops in Eurabia?
>>74339885
> World Religions class
Lmao what kind of shit school did you attend?
>>74340288
Hey if you were a real man you'd invite them in and tell them why they're wrong.
>>74340125
Bullshit.
If you ask them to go away, they do.
>>74340367
>not inviting them into your basement out back
Do you even horror show, anon?
>>74340086
No, I was molested at 13. He wasn't disfellowshipped, in fact, he works with kids now. I was never baptized, therefore I couldn't have been disfellowshipped.
You are the single biggest liar, you're probably worse than Satan the Devil.
I'm not sure who I hate more, fags or Jehovah's Witnesses.
>>74340125
"I was disfellowshipped". You'll never see them again.
>>74340375
>If you ass them to go away
I never did
Everytime I just take their booklet and say thanks
>>74334630
BUT I WANT TO BRING GUNS ON AIRPLANES!
WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
>>74340479
Jeez
These people got started in the US, you have to treat them like they're on your property and haven't earned the right to be on it. Act like you have a rusty shotgun for when weirdos show up.
>>74334630
while that is basically the modern christian take on things the bible is pretty that humanity fails god come revelations
the big guy has to reduce the amount of time that the beast has to fuck shit up or "there would be no flesh saved"
basically god flips the chess board and says i won my house my rules and thats the end of the story even though he was clearly in check 1 move from checkmate
>>74340606
I'm too shy and nice to do this
I'll just tell them to go away next time
>>74335892
I'm a faggot and I hate parades too, actually most of /lgbt/ hates the parades. I don't give a shit about marriage but since the government won't fuck off from marriage benefits it should be possible to make a same sex partnership, which is the base of the idea of a marriage anyway.
>>74340741
They'll come back. You have to tell them that you're an apostate. Or if you lived in America, you could do what my Aussie neighbor did and tell them to "get the fuck out of the neighborhood" and say "I don't want you back here". Then when they move on to the next house say "he doesn't want you here either, get the fuck out". Great times, man.
>>74334630
>What matters is how Jehovah feels
Who dat?
>>74337551
>Pretty much if you grow up a JW you are fucked. You will only have friends and connections that are JW and will grow up extremely sheltered from reality, if you ever decide to leave, you will have no where to go or anything to rely on.
That feel man
>>74334630
>muslims get free pass on shit infinitely worse than this
>people get super pissed at a religion not in medias spotlight on their opinions
fuck this planet
>>74335159
no one is forcing shit on them. fags force THEIR ideologies on other people. Get fucked faggot.
>>74334800
>not liking that brown sugar
milfy brown sugar too.
>if it's not pro-gay, it's indoctrination
>>74334630
>Jehova's Witnesses
Holy shit that cult is still functioning?
I thought the CIA would have destroyed them from the inside by now.
I love the fact that the fucking retard leaf shut up once I mentioned I was molested. Australia is looking into them with intense scrutiny because of all the molestation.
god does hate a fag
if he didn't, you wouldn't have AIDS
>>74340086
>defending pedophilia
You knock on my door in the morning again and I'll fuck you up nigga.
>>74334630
What is it that people still don't get about religion?
Man, I get it, I really do. The universe is confusing, and this is after a good 21st century education in science.
If I were a naked caveman around 20 000 years ago, I would have probably believed some crazy shit, too. If I were around a thousand years ago, I would have seen the bullshit in the bible as bullshit, but I probably would have been more open to spiritual explanations of things. Back then people had no idea about, for example, neuroscience.
But today? Religion has gotten nothing right, almost everything wrong, and the rest will certainly be proven wrong eventually. If you are religious you're either of low intelligence or you're so afraid of death you will guzzle fecal matter by the gallons to try to stifle the fear.
I get it, death is scary, but I'm not going to guzzle shit to deal with it. The truth is always better.
>>74341289
As long as people fear death there will be religion.
>>74341168
Why would they destroy their excuse of going door-to-door to solicit the people they are watching, anon. :^)
I might have to back again to my JW congregation and start reading the bible and revelations since shit is about to get real soon!
>>74341289
IT'S 2016!
>>74335536
You're cool.
>>74341289
>womp womp womp womp womp
>>74335159
Humans are retarded. That's why we need science. Human instinct is fucking retarded and useless for anything other than fucking, making babies, and running around naked with pointy sticks.
Science is not intuitive at all. People who hate fags are just being primates, basically. They should go live in the forest naked with a wooden spear. Meanwhile, the rest of us like to actually live in society and aspire to know and understand things bigger than being a naked retarded ape.
There is no reason to fear gay people. Heteros have always been the vast majority. Allowing faggots to be faggots will never threaten us.
Even though it won't happen - even if we imagine the worst, that suddenly everyone turned gay, the human race would survive just fine. We would still procreate. By the way, we don't even need the nuclear family to survive and thrive. It's fine as it is, but even if we lost it we would do just fine as a species. Conservatives are such fucking cowards. Afraid of everything.
"THE SAME THING!"
>>74341507
*tips fedora*
