I need some reasons on why we SHOULD NOT tighten the laws on gun control in the US.
Because you are not a US citizen and have no say in our democracy. We aren't cucked by the EU; we don't have to listen to foreign dictates.
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>>74280083
>I need some reasons on why we SHOULD NOT tighten the laws on gun control in the US.
Because you don't live in the USA, it's none of your business, and you have no sway over the process.
Perhaps you should worry about the muslim rape gangs fucking your children, Charles.
>>74280166
Not relevant
>>74280364
It's the most relevant point and the only one that needs to be made when foreigners discuss what "we" should or should not do.
>>74280083
>Why We should not tighten the laws on gun control in the US
>We
>in the US
Well I guess reason one would be that you haven't had a say in what goes on in the US since 1776.
We don't want to join you on the list of former great nations ruined by Islam
>>74280535
>>74280738
>>74280801
Completly sorry you guys, i shouldn't have worded it that way. i'm sorry u were offended.
>>74280083
Just look at The Bill of Rights, there is no debate.
>>74280083
Don't tread, Achmed.
>>74280083
why do you care? you dont even live here
The can try, they can cry, but they can never take my 45
Niggers. 45,672,250 reasons everyone else needs to be armed.
Does anyone have any statistics on how many lives were saved by making using your phone while driving illegal?
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>>74280083
Because when you and other ahmeds start migrating here I want to shoot you in the face when i see you molesting a white girl.
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>>74280083
I'll green text it for you red coat.
> A well regulated militia being neccasry to the security of a free state, the right of the people, to keep and bear arms. Shall not be infringed.
>>74281374
I don't care as much as u think. I was just thinking about what donald trump said with having more guns to resolve gun violence. Why are u taking this so seriously?
>>74281652
Canada has 31 guns per 100 people. Why are we not on this list
>>74281947
The data didn't include muskets
>>74280166
>>74280535
>>74280738
>>74281374
>Because muricans on /pol/ never express any opinions on other countries
>>74280083
even when taking into consideration that you are an island monkey, this question is fucking stupid.
"give me a reason why not to ban something"
this is too idiotic to not be a bait.
>>74280083
Because it is our constitutional right.
>>74280083
>we
>US
Your flag.
>>74281947
Only relevant countries.
>>74282016
Read through all pages of this:
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/
Also, ~30,000 deaths per year involving guns(homicides, accidents, suicides) vs ~2.5 million uses of guns for self-defence.
Need of the many outweighs the need of the few.
US 2015,
Homicides: 8,000
Defensive gun uses: 250,000 - 370,000
>>74282097
>~2.5 million uses of guns for self-defence.
I like Kleck, but his numbers are well on the high side. Meanwhile, Hemenway's "ids only 120!" is also bullshit.
Further research and adjustments have gotten it into the 300,000 range. Still, that's a fuck-ton! It means guns are used 37.5 times more often to defend life than to take it.
>>74282020
Listen Jamal, America runs and owns the rest of the world. If we want to discuss something about anyone, we can, because we are superior.
>>74282282
>implying the left doesn't spin this as 258k - 378k gun assaults per year
you can't win against them, just ignore them, there's no feasible way to remove so many guns from the USA especially considering you've got a literal hellhole to the south which can provide all the guns anyone will need
>>74281870
More guns do solve violence.
>>74281870
good guys with guns discourages bad guys with guns to use their guns.
>>74282567
Never said they didn't.
>>74282706
You're asking a question in the OP dumbfuck.
>>74280083
Give me a reason to not ban tobacco and alcohol.
>>74281652
So basically 1 out of 10 residents has a huge collection, the rest has nothing
>>74282436
What to do when you can't come up with an argument against someone else's claim:
Move goal posts [X]
Ignore previous poster's statement [X]
Ad homein [X]
Dick waving [X]
Admit defeat and move one [ ]
You're close anon, just one more step
>>74281870
Imagine liking a thing.
Now imagine having a shit ton of people spread disinfo and constantly try to ban said thing and slander you as a baby killing school shooter because they don't like it. Now imagine DA JOOS pushing that shit in the media 24/7.
We get hostile real fucking quick because guns are constantly under attack.
>>74282868
Would you rather fight 30million people with guns or 30million people without guns? Besides I doubt it breaks at "1 - 10"
Its funny. Nobody ever realizes that the reason niggers have guns in the first place...is because any fucktard can buy a gun and resell it.
Lol, who am I kidding. This is /pol/ and we're all retarded here.
>>74280083
>tighten the laws on gun control
This is my problem. Not specific enough.
Nobody can seem to come up with a detailed plan as to what this "gun control" entails.
This kind of general, sweeping request for gun control can be interpreted by many gun owners as some sort of insidious progression towards a no-gun country.
In order for people to consider your suggestions, it would probably be better to word it in a less "scary" way.
>>74282824
He wasn't answering the OP. See for urself
>>74282868
Not really. I live in Arizona, every household has a riffle. We trade and buy guns from eachother on the regular.
Freedom is grand.
>>74282952
Fuck off liberal kike
>>74283093
But they have put out plans and ideas as to what stricter gun control measures they would put in. And none of the measures would affect current owners or collectors who aren't doing anything illegal. Though it would clamp down on sales at gun shows..
>>74282535
I hate to say it, but we have you as evidence of what happens when the guns go away. Things like assault and robbery go up and never come back down, and why? People aren't worried about some guy having a rifle in his house anymore, not since 1996.
Real shame.
I hope you guys get your guns back one day.
>>74283193
Great place. If I ever moved out west, it'd probably be Arizona or Washington. CA is a sinking ship.
>>74280083
We can free ourselves more from you if you like bitch!
>reasons on why we SHOULD NOT
Just look at you cucked into turning into the caliphate. That is good enough reason right there.
>>74283489
lol. i'm not even british. xD
>>74283426
And yet they shill us as "gun control working", funny world huh, Orwell was right.
We do have guns, I myself own 3 but I can't see us ever getting the right back to use them in self defense.
>>74282824
I lived in Cd. Juarez ( that's in Mexico for all you burgers ) during the Cartel violence wave and when it was considered a more dangerous city than Baghdad, and I never felt the need for a gun, nor anyone else living there. The people that who died were people working for cartels and some civilians caught in the cross fire. Yet no one needed guns.
Just admit that you love guns and you want them because they're cool or whatever and stop pretending it's for self defence.
>Muricans thinking their cities are unsafe
Kek come live here if you REALLY wanna know what unsafe is.
So just admit that you like guns but you don't really need them.
At least is better than pretending that you're such a cowardly pussy that gets scared easily and doesn't feel like a man unless you're carrying an AR-15 scarring other people.
...I mean you are pretending to be a pussy... Right??
>>74280166
FPBP
OP BTFO
>>74283392
That's all good info, but OP was not so specific. Being from the UK, he'd probably prefer gun ownership be banned. Just a hunch...
>>74283653
>We do have guns, I myself own 3
At least you're keeping the dream alive. If they come for them again, when they come for them again, you should bury your guns. At least temporarily.
I heard that many folks actually did that back in '96, because the number of guns the gov't actually got wasn't near as many as they were expecting.
>>74283467
The cities are shitholes. Lived in Tucson last couple of years, also visit Mesa/Apache Junction regularly. I grew up in the White Mountains, beautiful, only a few mexicans, real downside is housing prices and mormans. Great weather year round save some winters where it snows a bit too much.
>>74280083
Fuck off you brit fuck, you have no say in our politics enjoy your muslim rape and genocide.
>>74283671
>I never felt the need for a gun
You don't need one if you're a shut-in that never leaves the basement.
>>74280083
Because I'm a faggy little femmeboy and my gun is the only way I can protect my tight little boipussi from the dindus.
>>74280083
Laws that will do nothing to prevent the crimes they supposedly are intended to fix are a waste of taxpayer dollars. Liberals have proposed absolutely nothing to "fix" the problem because liberals refuse to address the problem.
That problem is niggers. Especially niggers with guns.
>we
>flag of the European Caliphate
Fuck off sandkike.
>>74283761
hahaha i;m not british im sorry.
Gun control is the flawed idea that disarming law abiding citizens and making it harder for them to obtain, keep and carry firearms making it harder for them to defend themselves against criminals will somehow lower crime and stop criminals from obtaining guns.
The amount of defensive gun uses vastly outweigh any illegal uses of them in crimes
>>74283671
>innocent people getting gunned down
don't need a gun, lol
>Just admit that you love guns
I do. :^) also is a check on the elitists running the country to pay attention.
>>74283671
>and some civilians caught in the cross fire. Yet no one needed guns.
>>74283719
>If they come for them again, when they come for them again, you should bury your guns.
Funnily enough I've moved about 3 times since I got my license, I'm yet to update my license address and I've had no one come and check on them, they're not even stored in a safe as they're supposed to be.
Yes a lot of people just didn't hand their guns in, I've personally known a few people with illegal guns and thanks to some of the circles I used to move in have even heard of easily available full autos. It's not like shootings are that uncommon here, you just don't really hear about them because it's degenerates shooting degenerates, bikies and meth heads all can and do get illegal guns.
>>74280083
Feel free to try, you need a constitutional convention to remove the 2nd first....
>>74280083
Can defend your home, defend yourself on the street, hunt for sport/meat to sell and being able to attempt an overthrow of a tyrannical government via revolution
>>74283761
>why lock your doors if robbers are gonna break in anyway?
>>74283972
>bikies and meth heads all can and do get illegal guns.
They had that one guy, the jeweler, making MAC-10 copies for them. These bikie gangs sound awfully retarded.
Still, that's nothing compared to the Scandinavian Biker War of the 90s. Rocket launchers, hand grenades, and car bombs. Not even joking.
If that kind of shit can happen in liberals 'socialist utopias' then everybody needs guns.
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>>74284158
>Trying to justify a way governments are able to genocide the populous
Fuck off you genocide enablers.
>>74283737
Not if you buy in a Scottsdale gated community :-)
Nice weather/scenery + keep the riff-raff out.
>>74280083
Gun control laws cost money, resources and man hours while providing no measurable public good. You'll notice that all statistical arguments in favor of gun control rely on some sort of cherry picking of the data.
>>74282020
Well when we have to keep unfucking your fuckups. It's kind of hard not to
>>74283671
Gun ownership as it was intended was as a means to prevent tyrannical gov't from overthrowing the will of the people. It's not for safety, I agree. There's a reason gun laws are restricted by law in Mexico (of course you can still get them). It's because if every citizen was armed there would be a violent coup, even if Mexicans are lazy and worthless for the most part, they would still try.
>>74283671
Really?! Why is it so unreasonable to have a gun for home defense? Home invasion doesn't happen to you... Until it does. Don't be a victim.
>>74280944
>apologizing
Jesus christ you britbongs really are cucked.
Go out and shank a desert kike with a sharpened pigbone.
DO IT KEK
>>74283936
>>74283970
This isn't like the movies, kiddos.
You aren't Rambo or James bond and you're not going to take out the bad guys.
You know what would happen? You'd probably get killed before you even get a chance to aim, or you'll kill someone else by accident.
But let's say you're some sort of super cool crackpot shot or whatever and you manage to kill a Cartel member in the highly unlikely chance that you're caught in the crossfire of one of their gun fight. The other Cartel members will kill you then and you better pray you kill then all because otherwise they will come back to kill you and your family as revenge. So you, your wife (>implying /pol/ will ever mate) and your kids will all be beheaded because you thought you were so cool by waving your gun around.
All of that could've been avoided if you just kept your head down like any other well adjusted human being.
>>74280738
Lol. So much this. Ten threads yesterday by British people.
> Angelina Jolee should shut her nigger lips on brexit. Americans stay out of our politics
But today...
> I'm making arguments on why British people can tell you what to do in your country.
The hypocrisy is real.
The government becomes more and more authoritarian. Suddenly it becomes super-oppressive to the citizens, and the only thing that can stop it is a revolution. With gun control the citizens won't have anything to fight back with, so they're fucked.
>>74284854
>You aren't Rambo or James bond and you're not going to take out the bad guys.
Yeah, it's very rare to defend youself with a gun in the US
Oh wait.
We don't have rampaging cartels in the US like mexico, btw.
>>74283671
>some civilians caught in the cross fire. Yet no one needed guns.
You can't really be this retarded, right?
>>74284297
>implying the government and the mighty army of the US of A will stop because some dumb Hick has a .22
Man it's like you're stupid or something, mister :^)
>>74285027
>implying the government and the mighty army of the US of A will stop because some dumb Hick has a .22
actually yes, it would. You idiot.
>>74284854
The cartels recruit from the same populace as it's possible resistance, their only chance to dominate a large territory is with the aid of the government anti-gun laws.
>>74284967
Exactly. So your cities are safer by default
So why do you even need a gun?
>pro tip: you dont.
>>74285269
Mexico has the highest homicide rate of all the OECD countries by far. You must be trolling.
>>74285269
>So why do you even need a gun?
I don't have to have a "need" It's my god given right. Literally.
Guns are used for defense, it's also a deterrent. Look at the half dozen pictographs in the thread.
>>74285269
our border is currently shit, do you think they'd all just play nice and stay on their side once they hear the US is no longer dangerous for them?
>>74285269
"Need"
>>74285269
>>74280083
What do you mean we, Mohammed? You don't get a say.
In any case, we've been loosening our gun laws for decades. Crime continues to drop.
There is literally no logical reason to tighten gun laws in the US.
>>74285681
Relax bruh. Don't you know that cops teleport?
>>74280083
Should not? How about "shall not."
Nice try, fatherland. We know you're still butthurt from the last time you failed to take the guns.
>>74280083
I love these threads because there are no solid arguments for gun control. Even if all of them are bait, it still brings me joy tearing down lefty strawmen. Enjoy your (You)'s, OP.
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>>74285681
Yea but guns are even more important because they put you on the same level as cops, the firefighters have their hoses which don't compare at all to small fire extinguishers.
>>74286276
NOT
>>74280083
fuck you brit 1776 1776
>>74280083
I dont care that the US is so liberal when it comes to gunlaws but the fact that anyone even the mentally ill can just go get one without any background check is really fucked. Just make it so you have to fill out some paper work so its harder for lunatics to own weapons.
>>74286391
True, but the point is when a bad situation occurs, you need to be able to deal with it immediately.
As the old saying goes, when seconds count, authorities are minutes (or if you're in a rural area) hours away
>>74281175
Kek, saving this one
Because fuck you! That's why.
>>74284297
>Not an AK47
>Chinese Type 81
Get you shit together
>>74286520
There are half a billion unregistered guns already in circulation.
Background checks aren't even a feel good measure unless you're a mouth breathing retard.
Our rights are endowed by our creator, as worded in the bill of rights. Why should the government be allowed to take away something which is given to us by God?
>>74286826
Fucking this
Rights are guaranteed, not granted
>>74286607
Yep, your national average response time is 4 minutes. You're dead in under a minute and a half.
>>74286798
Its called making people who cant get weapons legitimately have to go through illegal means = making a feel good measure for the media to propel. Most people get background checks for getting a job why is it so dumb for owning a weapon? Only fuckwads who dont look at the larger picture think that regulations on weapons will allow for gov't control. Pro gun US citizens are fucking a detriment to themselves more so then anti-gun lobbyists. Mental and criminal background checks with maybe simple training should be whats in place in my opinion. (not that it fucking matters as im a Canadian)
I recently spent some time in rural northern Georgia with some family members. Being from California, I was shocked as I observed how polite the general society is there. I learned that a great many of the people living there have concealed carry permits and a huge proportion of the population is walking around with a sidearm on their belt or in their purse. I can't help but believe that there is a strong correlation between the politeness level of their society and the number of concealed weapon permits. Nothing else encourages one to mind his manners more than knowing that your smart mouth or bad behavior very well might get you shot.
>>74280083
> britbong
> wonders how "we" should tighten US gun laws
> seems to think his opinion matters
> Nigel has some time to kill between prepping mustafa and bringing his wife her cleanup towel
>>74288126
An armed society is a polite society
>>74288325
This is exactly my point.
>>74280083
Because you are a britfag, and you have no say in our laws. Silly cuck.
>>74288477
They tried to in the past, but that didn't really turn out that well for them
>>74280083
Build mosque, faggot.
