What has Christianity offered the western world in terms of politics and culture, /pol/?
>>74238477
To begin with, made it easy to teach shitty savages to act human so they don't go to hell.
>>74238477
Well, pretty much everything desu.
>>74238477
Everything. Check mate zionst.
>>74238477
Literary nothing, to be honest, family
>>74238792
by all roman accounts the germans were fatidious, legalistic, and bound by honor long before they were christianized, just as the romans were lazy, lecherous, and drank too much wine long beforehand as well
christianity is a cuck religion and the source of social justice
>>74238715
>>74238792
>>74238858
>>74239051
So much contempt for pagan ancestors...
Close minded fundamentalism and ignorance.
>>74239062
>>74239173
What is this, opposite day? Americans are supposed to be the bible thumpers, not a clearly white Brazilian and European individuals.
>>74238477
Nothing, christianity is jewish fairytale.
our fairytales are pagan, but they demonised these.
>>74239062
>implying social justice is bad
>>74239093
had Polan not accepted Cuckianity it would have had a fuckin base on da Moon!
>>74239062
>>74239173
>>74239248
Go away, /pol/ is a christian board
>>74239257
Justice is good. Social justice is vague nonsense, an undefined term that can mean anything faggots like you want it to mean.
>>74239248
>not having a dark mage as priest
>>74239353
Western civilization as we know it is heavily influenced by Christianity
>>74239062
>raping boys
>legalistic
kek
>>74238477
Basically the whole thing. If you were to be transported to pre-Christian Europe, you wouldn't recognise anything. Not even the LARPers would
>>74239242
this american is taiwanese and sees through all of your historical bullshit.
you people are REALLY bad at history. ALL of you white people. it's really fucking jarring sometimes
>>74239353
we need A religion. the problem with christianity is that it's a honeypot the liberals are using to draw in well meaning idiots and neutralize them en masse.
the nonviolent christians will neutralize your voice by calling you nondevout if you want to fight, and the liberals will neutralize HIS voice by calling him a bigot.
christianity deliberately obscures power structures. we need a form of christianity that endorses strength and killing subhumans
or YOU do, at least.
if you people continue to be so stupid that you praise abstract principles that suddenly become concrete when it comes to worshipping some trinity, but suddenly lose concreteness when it comes to killing brown people that are raping children... then fuck you, I'm gone
stop brown people from killing you is moral principle #1, not some divine fetus
>>74239353
Thought /pol/ was about political incorrectness. Also, this site has numerous pornographic boards. Doesn't sound too Christian to me.
>>74239666
>this american is taiwanese and sees through all of your historical bullshit.
>you people are REALLY bad at history. ALL of you white people. it's really fucking jarring sometimes
Do elaborate what a fish head, micropenis does better than the white man in this instance?
>>74239666
>666
Don't throw out baby Jesus with the (((bathwater)))
>>74239787
Are you new here?
what if Christianity is an elaborate Jewish joke played on goyim?
>>74238477
lol
lol
>>74238477
lolo
lol
fuck u guys have no education
literally all the masters of art, literature, music until the 19th/20th century lived, ate, and breathed Christianity, like do u even need examples bro, honestly.
Divine inspiration breeds beauty and creative masterpieces
>>74239173
you are blind to all the goodness it brought and see only the negative, your own loss, just like your country.. free to stand, free to fall
>>74239787
we're a lot better at not letting brown people rape our women, then avoid prison, then set off bombs in our capitals.
I dunno, maybe rape and murder are REALLY abstract moral principles that fishheads like me just can't understand. I'm sure there's a good reason why your women deserve to get raped after half of your national economy is devoted to uplifting the rapist?
>>74239353
1v1 me in magic mountain jew
>>74239430
wow almost like "white race"
>>74239982
quite possibly rape is just a social construct
if a stronger country/company can fuck a weaker one
why not a stronger man cannot fuck weaker woman?
this is where liberal thought leads to
>>74240104
>I'm too dumb to understand something extremely complex
>therefore it doesn't exist
it would be funny if this story didn't end with the genocide of all white people
>>74239093
Pagans were weak and cleansed away by the more centralized forces of Christian, or recently Christianized kings.
They were an exercise in failure. It's values were not as strong or as deeply rooted.
Why anyone pines for failure is beyond me.
>>74239982
You guys seem to be into meth a lot, though.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-17/taiwanese-man-jailed-over-drug-importation/7421802
> I'm sure there's a good reason why your women deserve to get raped after half of your national economy is devoted to uplifting the rapist?
Actually, I'm not even mad. The women who get raped deserves it. They're often, if not always leftist whores.
The majority of the Swedish people keep voting for obviously corrupt and self-serving politicians and parties. Winds are changing though :^)
>>74238477
good goy: the religion
>>74240202
I could literally say the same thing about you and social justice, can you actually get people to agree on who's white and who's not?
>>74240194
funny. this same thing happened in china and rusia under communism
the rights of the browns to be COMFORTABLE is really important. that means you guys are gonna hve to give up speech, bodily security, wages, right to work, right for your daughter not to be raped, etc.
they still believe in absolute principles. but they switcheroo'd you guys. the absolute principle is making brown people happy.
belief in subjective principles is an idiot trap that they use to get you to lower your guard whilst they impose what's good for them. absolute principle always exists
>>74240062
BLESSING OF SVAROG UPON YOU BROTHER
If we're talking 20th century and later, Distributivism is pretty cool, Mormons have a way of living that is measurably beneficial in terms of happiness, and the hardcore religious movements like the Amish give us (as in the human species) survivability in the face of possible extinction.
Before then, Christianity was so intertwined with culture that the two were largely inseparable.
Its offered a great moral compass
I think most importantly it offered a way of life that wasn't complete savagery. But it also offered a way for people to be exploited.
>>74239666
> rolls 666
> calls great artists christian, not religious
> burger thinks believing in god = only christian
>>74238477
christian fucks deserve to be persecuted
>>74240834
Even so, you're very simple minded.
>>74238477
Read Rodney Stark's Triumph of Reason.
>>74240886
> calls other people on 4chan simpleminded
> hypocrite
>>74240886
>You dont worship Satan
goosh, anon you are so simple minded
>>74238477
Slavery and destruction.
>>74240649
>If we're talking 20th century and later, Distributivism is pretty cool,
But what country or institution practise distributivism?
>Mormons have a way of living that is measurably beneficial in terms of happiness,
Not really. They're a highly insular group. Any deviants are shunned.
>and the hardcore religious movements like the Amish give us (as in the human species) survivability in the face of possible extinction.
>How, by utilising a bare minimum of technology from the dawn of the "electronic revolution"?
>Before then, Christianity was so intertwined with culture that the two were largely inseparable.
Religion is always a mirror of any culture, never intertwined in that sense.
>>74239353
Fuck off kike worshipper
>>74240948
>>74240953
Do you think that upsets me? LOL
>>74238477
In case of my girlfriend it went against her ability to make an abortion and now I have a half-dindu as a daughter. Amazing!
>>74238477
Only a Swede would be this dumb
Go back to cucking
>>74241005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M
>>74238477
I'm an agnostic, but I know that christianity was the binding component, the supranational cause that bound the western world together and made it so great, next to white genetics.
It might be a shitsystem, but we have to admit it and the people behind it brought us greatness.
I think christianity is used to cuck people nowadays, but in previous times it was perfect to domesticate the wildness out of the people to make society work great.
>>74241013
>Asking for other people's opinion is dumb
>>74238477
>it helps employ shills that know how to talk, that are able to convince people to give them money
>tfw preachers are just hustlers
>>74241005
No need to be upset.
>>74241007
>my wife's son
kek
>>74241095
>I think christianity is used to cuck people nowadays, but in previous times it was perfect to domesticate the wildness out of the people to make society work great.
Don't you see, Christianity was always used to cuck people. Entire kingdoms and empires got cucked by the church and cucked people in turn.
>>74241172
I think cucking is a "natural" phenomena, "elites" have been doing since plebs were unable to think or decide for themselves.
>>74240370
ah, the irony...
but then again, to defeat Christianity the same trick of making everything absolute works, when they rape you turn the other butt cheek
but it wasn't like that in Medieval Europe
>>74241242
That goes without saying.
>>74238477
Well, without Christianity we'd all be Muslim today. Atheists and devil worshipers value nothing, and so the collapse of our civilization to Muslim invaders will also mean nothing to them.
Christianity which had unified so many Europeans to stand and protect this, our civilization from invasion and conquest; will no longer act as a powerful enough adhesive to give us the strength we will need to repel this divisive culture that will destroy us.
I am not particularly religious, but I love my culture and my people and wish to stand beside them. I would rather declare myself a Catholic than an Atheist because Atheists as a movement are destroying us from the inside. They have spawned black nationalism, feminism, satanism, and all these other divisive -ism's which weaken our morale and allow us to be defeated. Deus vult.
>>74241095
>but I know that christianity was the binding component, the supranational cause that bound the western world together and made it so great
Didn't Germany at one point lose 60% of her population because of the schism between protestants and catholics?
"bound together" my ass.
>>74238477
Morality.
>>74240985
>But what country or institution practise distributivism?
No country has ever practiced any pure political ideology, but libertarianism or socialism are directions that countries can move in. Same with distributivism. I think any economy with low inequality that hasn't had to resort to nanny-state welfarism is heading in a good direction.
>Not really. They're a highly insular group. Any deviants are shunned.
That's irrelevant to self-reported happiness, which is an actual measurable statistic which Mormons do well on.
>Religion is always a mirror of any culture, never intertwined in that sense.
That's just wrong, though. Look at what Henry VIII had to do, just so he could divorce his barren wife and go fuck Anne Boleyn.
>>74241481
LOL you fucking highschoolcucker implying there was no morality before your jew-loving religion.
>>74241559
Pagan, don't speak of things of which you have no understanding.
>>74241420
>Well, without Christianity we'd all be Muslim today.
Without Christianity there wouldn't be any Muslims. And even so, what's the difference?
>>74241598
>hurp durp der wuz no morality befo jeesus
>let's ignore the stoic foundation of chrishianitee pls
>>74241420
THERE WOULDNT BE ANY MUSLIMS WITHOUT CHRISTIANITY
It gave the weak minded something to fear. Stopping most chimp outs before they happen.
It gave intellectuals like myself something to debate.
>>74238477
Christianity is one of the pillars of western civilisation. Providing the moral framework of it.
Christianity, Roman law and Politics, and Greek Philosophy are the three pillars of what it means to the the West.
Everything.
The development of Abrahamic religions is completely intertwined with the development of western civilization.
There is no Western Civilization without Abrahamic religions.
>>74241420
Spain was overrun despite being Christian in the middle ages. F
rance or Charles Martel was the only buffer that protected Europe from a Muslim invasion, no other Christian nation added much.
What unites European is trade and statesmanship.
Atheism is America is fucked up yes, you have no other major cultural denominations except Cuckservative and Faggocrat. Europe got a lot more to pick from.
>>74241605
>>74241654
But fact of the matter is there was Christianity, so you only had the choice between the two. If Europe had remained Pagan, it wouldn't have held out against Islam just like it didn't against Christianity.
>>74241753
Charles Martel didn't stop the Ottomans, nor did France.
The papacy and Christendom did, without that shared ideology, Vienna would have fallen. It was the Christian coalition that stopped them there in the most important battle for Europes future that ever happened.
>>74241537
>I think any economy with low inequality that hasn't had to resort to nanny-state welfarism is heading in a good direction.
Such as? I'm curious if you're speaking in hypotheticals or actualities.
>That's irrelevant to self-reported happiness, which is an actual measurable statistic which Mormons do well on.
What statistics? If we're going to argue facts, citations need to be cited.
>That's just wrong, though. Look at what Henry VIII had to do, just so he could divorce his barren wife and go fuck Anne Boleyn.
I presume you mean Henry VIII had to circumvent the current taboo of divorce caused by that era's political sphere. Still, a mirror that changes with cultural norms.
>>74241880
>Charles Martel didn't stop the Ottomans, nor did France.
We're not even talking about the same century.
Charles Marten was an early medieval king.
Ottomans came along in the high medieval era and invaded Vienna in the 1600's. It wasn't Christianity that united anyone against them, it was that a foreign Sultan wanted a piece in Europe. Fuck if anyone likes a new hot shot on the playground, regardless of religion.
>>74241753
>rance or Charles Martel was the only buffer that protected Europe from a Muslim invasion, no other Christian nation added much.
Muslims also came via Italy and the Balkans after the Byzantine Empire fell. Many states fought against them but the unity was based on Christianity.
>>74241781
Why is a foreign, semitic religion spreading into Europe bad when Islam does it, but it's good when Christianity does it?
>>74238477
If it weren't for Charles "The Hammer" Martel protecting Christianity against the Moors we would all be Muslims today.
>>74241781
That makes no sense
The pagan Greeks and Romans regularly defeated organized and numerically superior armies of sandniggers like Carthaginians and Persians without adopting sandnigger cults
>>74242059
2/10 Egyptians are Christian
>>74242012
>Many states fought against them but the unity was based on Christianity.
In part, undoubtedly. Just like the Greeks would stop fighting each other to fight off the Persians with their weird ways. But pointing exclusively to a shared religion is hardly the whole truth of the matter.
>>74242179
Of course it was geopolitics as well.
>>74239353
>>74241880
Martel: 668-741 AD
Ottomans came in 700 years later.
>>74241892
>Such as? I'm curious if you're speaking in hypotheticals or actualities.
YouWin in Nigeria did well, and Nigeria as a whole is okay for an African country, although it's suffering as a result of oil prices. The Czech Republic is looking good. Estonia has some good initiatives, and the government moves fast.
What I'm watching at the moment is what wanky liberals call the "sharing economy": uber, airbnb, and other services that move people from employees to contractors.
Don't get the impression that I'm a distributivist; I just think it's a neat idea, I don't study it or evangelise for it.
>What statistics? If we're going to argue facts, citations need to be cited.
A Gallup poll, see http://religionnews.com/2015/07/02/5-reasons-why-mormons-are-happier-says-researcher/ for a breakdown.
>I presume you mean Henry VIII had to circumvent the current taboo of divorce caused by that era's political sphere. Still, a mirror that changes with cultural norms.
He used religion as a vehicle to drive social change. Far from religion mirroring society, society mirrored religion.
>>74242895
>http://religionnews.com/2015/07/02/5-reasons-why-mormons-are-happier-says-researcher/
I feel inclined not to really take anything called religionnews seriously. Regardless if it's run by theists or atheists.
Martin Seligman is a psychologist behind the study, and psychology is even worse than the humanities in terms of actual scientific research.
>He used religion as a vehicle to drive social change. Far from religion mirroring society, society mirrored religion.
Mirrors and mirroring are always a matter of perspective.
>>74243189
>Martin Seligman is a psychologist behind the study, and psychology is even worse than the humanities in terms of actual scientific research.
It's a poll. They asked people how happy they were. Mormons replied positively the most, matched with /pol/'s favourites. There's not a lot of room for creative misinterpretation in such a simple experiment.
The news article is irrelevant but interesting, the direct source is http://www.gallup.com/poll/152732/religious-higher-wellbeing-across-faiths.aspx
>Mirrors and mirroring are always a matter of perspective.
What we can agree on is that it's more complicated than simple cause and effect.
>>74242016
>Sacred texts in greek
>Apostles wear greek and latin names
>Four out of five patriarchates are greek or latin cities
>Christianism come from Christos(greek name for anointed)
Semitic religion
The alphbabet is semitic, same goes for the wheel and the agriculture.
>>74238477
It keept the teachings of reading and writing alive after the fall of the roman empire
>>74244509
>The alphbabet is semitic, same goes for the wheel and the agriculture.
Nice try, joo.
>>74238477
Pedophilia as the norm.
>>74238477
Everything except the degeneracy.
It flys in the face of urbanism. Since urbanites think that urban centers should control issues of life, death, and human sovreignty such that the population/resource sinks(i.e. cities) get the most for themselves at the price of human life and freedom.
Christianity inherently supports life, liberty, and property rights which are all seen as "problematic" for urban centers.
God took out Sodom and Gomorrah and I hope he unleashes atomic fire on the countless new Sodom and Gomorrahs across the world.
Hey Sweden, when was the last time you felt the compulsion to ritually sacrifice a lower status human in your society? Oh you don't? Yeah, maybe the fact that Christianity put a stop to that might have been somewhat beneficial.
>when edgy atheists deny western peacefulness wasn't at least in part influenced by Christianity
>>74247961
Fuck off. That happened all the time among pagans.
>>74245665
So how's your progressive society free from Christianity doing? Oh, wait, your capital is a shitty population/resource sink that aborts so many of its own children that you have to go around imperializing everyone like Rome in order to keep from going extinct. Yeah, you fuckers are pretty much the posterchild of the "benefits" of atheism.
Its too bad you're so scared of nuked that you build that shitty missile shield. Yeah, it'll buy those subhuman urbanites some time to run to the subways but i've heard some of our nukes are Cobalt-type which'll make life a living hell for those fuckers destined for the other Hell anyways.
Your death will be our rebirth, Ivan.
>>74238477
Christianity unified Europe under an ideology which allowed more or less social peace.
There was conflicts but at the end of the day the Church gave stability and a negotiation way to solve conflicts.
>>74241420
>"We would be muslim"
>Islam is a christian sect
>Atheists and devil worshipers
Kek, pure moron, I bet you have an IQ of 100 and think god created earth 5000 years ago.
You are pure garbage incarnated, hopefully your genes won't do it throught post-humanism.
>>74247961
Says the Hinpoo who can't take his arranged child bride on the bus without her getting raped.
>>74238477
Closet faggots who post anime on the internet.
>>74248933
Her question was "what HAS..." not "what Hasen't..."
Closet faggots are always atheists.
>>74238477
great artwork
>>74249702
eat a dick, urbanite
>>74249853
is the expression on Jesus' face pleasure or pain?
>>74238477
Everything, which is why loosing the faith has lead to a complete hollowing out of our societies.
Our entire system was predicated on a christian population. It is the cornerstone on which everything else rests.
Sadly modern christianity is completely subverted, and before it can bring about the revification of western society, the faith has to be purged of the heresies currently dominating it.
>>74238477
Well the Pope is a westerner, and his church is making a butt load of money, so money, even though only to a single organization.
In return for money, the kings and knights are absolved of their sin and get to go to heaven, if you believe it, that is, so Europeans get to go to heaven.
(Spoilers)
The catholic church has always been running a business, selling prayers, something that essentially cost nothing to make, to part gold from people foolish enough to buy them
>>74239093
Pretty much, since they accomplished nothing of the sort which the enlightened ancestors did.
>>74238477
The destruction of the European culture and replacing it with praying to a Middle-Eastern kike.
>>74239353
/thread
>>74238477
The American Southern Democrats, or "Dixiecrats" who for about 100 years kept those niggers in line. As well as the "Bible Belt" who will be the last place on Earth to accept those Goddamn Muslim 'Refugees'
>>74250620
>>74238715
>>74239887
I'd suggest that you are, stormfaggot.
