https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-criticizes-west-trying-export-own-brand-democracy-204509348.html?nhp=1
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures.
>Francis also blamed European "ghettoising" of migrants for causing terrorism.
>He cited as an example the militant attacks in Brussels in March, when three suicide bombers killed 32 people, calling the terrorists "Belgians, children of migrants, but they came from a ghetto".
>By contrast, the pope praised this month's election of Sadiq Khan as the first Muslim mayor of London.
He's right you know.
Even the Christian God doesn't support European mistreatment of Islamic migrants.
>>74226004
Hang the Apostate!
>>74226004
What is this guy's fucking problem
>>74226138
He's a true christian, you know "if someone slaps your face show them the other side"
>>74226004
Friar Cuck strikes again
>>74226004
That's what happens when you have a jew Pope
FUCKING ARGIES
>>74226004
The one thing he is right about is blaming the Belgian government for this. They fucking knew exactly where these extremists were living and operating, and they did jack shit about it.
im skeptical about a lot of these "quotes"
most of the time he just says something somewhat related and the media then takes it as "OMG FRANCIS IS GOING TO ALLOW GAYS TO MARRY"
>>74226212
No he's literally just a shitty Marxist (or if you're being generous, cuckservative) spic and the cardinals were stupid to expect otherwise in electing him.
We've been at war with Islam since Mohammed invented it and we've grown complacent in the relative peace in the last 50 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
>>74226212
Wrong, you heretical monkey.
That passage is speaking on petty offenses, telling people to put their ego aside. Slapping someone in the face is a public insult, its like a challenge to your manhood. Christ told people to offer their other cheek, instead of restoring to violence over a petty matter.
This passage does not condone bending over and letting people conquer you. The Pope is the furthest thing from a Christian that could possibly exist. Hes a wicked man trying to destroy the core of the faith.
>>74226004
because he doesn't worship the christian God
The Christian God is saying "What the fuck turning the cheek is only for other Christians why are you not executing Jews and Muslims enmasse and converting Hindis n Buddhists?? WHAT THE FUCK"
he's right, people should keep their culture in their own country.
>>74226447
He's most likely an atheist. He was visiting the Philippines and a little girl asked him why God allows suffering in the world, and he replied "There is no reason."
A N T I P O P E
THE ULTIMATE HAPPENING IS NEAR
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures.
Wow. I agree with him. We shouldn't import millions of people that do not respect indigenous political cultures.
>>74226004
>for trying to export their own brand of democracy
Well he's not wrong there at least.
>>74226592
Makes him sound like a Pelagian. Pretty rad.
>>74226430
Ehh depends on the interpretation, for many it seems like it's he's telling to forgive violence. I mean Christ himself accepted to be brutalized and killed like a good goyim, you can't expect anyone who follows his religion to do anything different.
>>74226004
I'm not even a Catholic and I'm ashamed of the fuckin guy, he means nothing to me spiritually but I'm genuinely sad the Catholic faith is led by such a fucking cuck and a fucking straight up sell out. When/if Europe implodes, he should be one of first to hang on the day of the rope.
>>74226760
But Pelagianism is a heretical doctrine, anon
>>74226812
Christ fashioned a bullwhip and hit people inside of the temple with it. He was not against violence itself. Not in any way, shape, or form.
That passage is up not to interpretation. It has one meaning. One.
>>74226872
Doesn't stop it from being better.
New pope when
>>74226912
the Bible doesn't say that he actually whipped anyone,
>>74227014
Hopefully not for a while. The amount of butthurt he inspires is amazing. And not the normal kind of butthurt Catholic clergy cause.
this is what happens when you give power to non europeans. They ruin things.
>>74226935
>implying the human will alone can allow a man to live a sinless life
>>74226912
You would think that if he really had any self-preservation instinct he wouldn't go so calmly into death's door.
>>74226004
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures.
he is right and you have to be a faggot to deny it.
>>74227034
He didn't go through the trouble of making it just for show. He flipped over a table, verbally berated the bastards inside, called them vipers, and he struck them.
>>74227174
But we have war and tribal alliances are the only thing they know
>>74227168
Christ did not die on the cross by accident. He knew it was going to happen. Dying to atone for humanity was his purpose on earth.
>>74227141
It can, though, otherwise what's the point of having free will, or life at all?
>>74226867
THE TRAITORS DIE LONG BEFORE THE DECLARED ENEMIES
>>74226004
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures
I'll agree with this much at least.
>>74227034
No, it doesn't. But He brought one with Him. Why do you think He did? Why do you think He had the apostles get swords?
>>74227168
That was prophecy. That is literally why Jesus came to Earth. To suffer and die for us so that we would be given a chance at salvation.
>>74226004
Someone needs to shut this smug spic the fuck up, he's pissing me off.
I'm not even remotely religious, but I still view this man as a cultural traitor to his people.
What the fuck is this?
We need to pepe him out of existence.
>>74226252
BANTZ
>>74227286
Sin is an unavoidable part of human nature. You can give into it to a greater or lesser degree depending on your actions, but the idea that you can completely avoid it is stupid. None of us have done that, so it's silly of you to claim it's possible.
That's why it's important that Christ's sacrifice allows sins to be forgiven
>>74226004
He's absolutely right.
If secular Europe and US weren't so hellbent on enforcing a globalist agenda of universal values on the rest of the world, we wouldn't even be having a refugee problem right now.
And guess what?
EUROPE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THESE PEOPLE IN, AND THEN NOT DOING ANYTHING TO BREAK CULTURAL BARRIERS AND INSTRUCT THEM
THE GHETTOISING IS A CONSEQUENCE OF THEIR SECULAR ENLIGHTMENT EMBRACE OF MULTICULTURALISM
The seculary european union has itself to blame for this mess, and the Pope is saying that the blame lies at their feet for doing it.
Hell I'm not even catholic and I agree with the sentiment
>>74227286
God gives babies cancer to turn up the accelerator for our medical Research..
If we really loved we'd cure the babies as a Trial God has set to us instead we refuse to cure cancer and cry.
>>74226004
literally redit: the pope
>>74227482
Seems more a matter of opinion, and an underestimation of the true ascetic. Plus, Christ's sacrifice is for that which we cannot overcome ourselves. Not that we shouldn't try at all.
>>74226004
The church shoudl burn him desu.
>>74227256
yes, but somehow whe your county intervened in theirs politics, you found the way to keep them quite calm.
when the eurofags intervened they unleashed the rapefugees
>>74226004
Whelp, fuck this cunt. Only reason why he's saying this shit is because he's Argentinian and not European. Fuck this pathetic cuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1nDSQUdodo
>>74227168
>calmy
He was afraid how dare you
>>74227546
Him and the Russian pope signed papers stating all Christians will fight the Jihad and start a New Crusade Only the Russian Pope spoke of the agreement and they pulled back when they realized our Pope was not sending reinforcements.
Its the pope's job to advise the church militants who OUTRANK him.
>since we may not be up to date on worly affairs living our lives n all.
>>74227284
So he knew people would create a religion that uses few of his teachings, that would manipulate people's ignorance, that would destroy native cultures, that would try to suppress logical reasoning as much as it could, that would teach people to do some good things without teaching WHY they are good and etc.? That doesn't sound very noble.
Look I have no problem with Christ's teaching, but the catholic church has been a political tool for centuries, people should be more than able to read the new testament and learn with his words by themselves instead of relying in a big rich egoistical institution that tells people to be suicidal.
>Pope Francis has criticized Western powers for trying to export their own brand of democracy to countries such as Iraq and Libya, without respecting indigenous political cultures.
Sounds reasonable to me
Anyone who isn't a brainwashed idiot knows democracy is shit, and western liberal universal suffrage is killing us
Yes of course the western governments are involved, if they weren't letting muslims in we wouldn't be having terrorist attacks.
>>74227608
Because Yuros can't do anything on their own just look at Yugoslavia. France had to ask the U.S to help out
>>74227536
>God gives babies cancer
No, God gave us a world where shit can actually take place. Where we can evolve and act according to our own will, as well as in reaction to the rest of the world.
God's kingdom is the kingdom of heaven not earth.
>>74227588
Christ died so that we could someday be free of original sin, which compels us to sin. Until the resurrection, this is something we're stuck with
>>74227737
You misunderstand I am saying its a Good thing.
>I am arguing against Stephen Fry 's arguement.
im not saying he magics a baby to have cancer its a 4th dimensional genetic ploy, Given by random Mutation radiation or Hereditary issues.
Its a Good thing babies get Cancer.
>>74227811
God's kingdom is all reality and beyond.
>sounds like you are worshipping Yaldabaoth.
>>74227174
>Hahaha! Nothing hypocritical with importing people with the same similar mindset to European countries though!
2014 FIFA World Cup, 1v0 - Germany v Argentina, best year of my life.
>>74227491
Islamic nations have been savage and violent since their beginning. Arabs as a whole were a savage people before the advent of Islam. Islam's pedigree is 1400 years of constant warring and slaughtering Christians.
Blaming Europe or all of western civilization for these terror attacks is placing blame on the wrong doorstep. Our governments did agitate these Islamic terrorists, but they were terrorists to begin with. They wanted a global caliphate to begin with. Populations demographics alone would have caused these same issues to come to a head eventually, wold events over the past 15 years have only accelerated them.
>>74226004
high sparrow would be a much better pope tbqh
>>74227860
Yea, that's opinion as well. Especially since it relies on revisionism by God. Why make humans incapable of salvation by themselves until Christ was sent along to patch out that particular bug?
>>74227863
Fair enough.
>>74227491
>Europe is responsible.
>Not America's international dick-size contest with the USSR.
>Not America religiously supporting Israel to speed up the apocalypse.
>Not America shamelessly and hypocritically sucking Saudi Arabia's dick - even after they support nonstop forces that aim to destroy America.
As a Polish naturalized American citizen, fuck off.
>>74228037
Because it was the deal we took to have free will
>>74227924
They didn't agitate shit. These fuckers were attacking us long before 9/11 or whatever you want to blame this on. The U.S had to go to war with these savages in 1803.
>>74227916
No it's literally heaven. On earth anything can happen.
>>74226004
Is there a single Catholic capable of justifying their support of this loser?
schism when
>>74228132
>the deal we took
Did we now? Because all this is just sounding like Catholic hierarchical reliance.
>>74228146
You are aware that Heaven means SPACE yeah?
How come God can own everything BUT earth.
>which you imply satan owns?????????
>>74228252
Christianity decalres not to make Temples to God.
>>74228146
>since everything is in possession of the Alpha and Omega
>>74228252
Did Adam and Eve not eat of the tree of knowledge?
And yes, arguing the Catholic position usually ends up sounding Catholic
>>74226405
>in the relative peace in the last 50 years.
>the last 50 years.
This shortsightedness might be what floors me the most, and not just in religion, but nationalism and community cohesion in general.
In the past fucking 60 years alone, we've undone centuries of human development and accomplishment, all at the behest of some shitty ideologies born from a relatively tiny time frame of peace.
>>74228393
Wasn't that a trick rather than a deal?
And yea, tautology isn't usually a great defense.
>>74228124
What part of that disagrees with anything that I said?
Western Liberal Universal values tied with globalist reach is the problem. We impose values systems and meddle in places we don't belong and feel morally validated when we do.
Europe is responsible as well for its hand in this bullshit.
Europe builds itself on a progressive pretense, but the facade fails when you take a walk in the slums, which are full of hungry, angry, ignorant people whose countries were most likely a colony at one point.
I can't help but think that europe deserves its muslims after parading itself as the model for the rest of the world.
If it is, then this problem shouldn't be existing.
>>74227924
Sure, what exactly makes you think that europe is by any means capable of "civilizing" them?
Contain the problem and be done with it then. Let their cultures destroy or grow on their own, and stop enabling their dysfunction.
>>74226004
This guy is literally Islamic.
>>74228487
It was the original sin. The first instance of free will being used to do a morally wrong act. It wasn't so much a trick as giving into a temptation, like all other sins.
And Catholics only use hierarchy as an argument because some debates are long-decided, and all the arguments that were used are available for anybody curious enough
>>74228942
Guess we have to agree to disagree. After all, if you have free will to sin, why would the timeline of them matter?
he's not my pope
>>74229128
Originally Adam and Eve were like children, incapable of evil. In giving in to original sin, humanity was given free will at the expense of mortality. Christ gave us a path to overcome original sin if we use our free will to live righteously as he taught.
BASED
>>74226004
Can we just act like he's not one of us
or something
please
>catholics
please stop lumping these heretic pagans with real christians
>>74229385
>like children, incapable of evil.
Certainly have to disagree there...
But it is still something i prefer in Pelagianism, how children don't need to be baptised just because of original sin. Fits in with the "sins of the father" bit.
>>74229749
What, so Jesus died for nothing? Have you read Genesis?
>>74229810
>What, so Jesus died for nothing?
No, He died for OUR sins.
>>74229413
Seeing:
>Donald Trump, American Fascist
Makes me feel cozy as fuck inside.
There's no way he isn't some kind of plant.
>>74226004
He's right about the first point, completely wrong and cucked about the others. There needs to be a coup of cardinals real quick.
>>74229888
And why was that necessary?
>it's a blame the entire West for Americas actions and say they deserve terrorism episode
>>74226004
good goy
>Pope says gay marriage is from satan
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pope-francis-same-sex-marriage-move-father-lies-total-rejection-gods-law
>Pope Francis speaks against Gay adoption
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/12/pope-francis-shocked-by-gay-adoption-urges-bishop-to-speak-against-it-boldly/
>Compares trans rights to nuclear arms race
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pope-francis-compares-arguments-for-transgender-rights-to-nuclear-arms-race-10061223.html
>Pope Francis says that there's no salvation outside the Church
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2013/06/03/pope-francis-is-under-attack-for-saying-that-outside-the-church-there-is-no-salvation-its-a-poke-in-the-eye-says-one-presbyterian-why-hes-wrong/
>He excommunicates an Australian priest supporting gay marriage and women clergy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html
>Pope Francis is against gender theory and for traditional gender roles
http://ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-francis-gender-theory-problem-not-solution
>Pope is against abortion
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/23/pope-francis-on-abortions-innocent-victims-its-wrong-to-look-the-other-way-or-remain-silent/
>He Encourages the use of force against ISIS
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-endorses-use-of-force-against-isis-in-iraq-2014-8
>Pope Francis is against lukewarm "faith"
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-off-the-cuff-to-priests-religious-indifference-makes-god-vomit-69700/
>The Pope is misquoted often
http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/7-times-pope-francis-was-misquoted-132679/
>The Pope Rebukes Communist Cross
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/11729834/Pope-rebukes-Bolivias-President-Evo-Morales-for-gift-of-crucifix-mounted-on-hammer-and-sickle.html
lol
>>74229998
Because of the sins WE commit? How is this a hard concept?
>>74230074
>gays
>global warming
>muslims???
>capitalism
>jesus
what the fuck horsey?
>>74230036
maximum damage control
>>74230036
Denial <- You are here
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
>>74230261
>truth is damage control
VADE RETRO SATANA! NON PRAEVALEBUNT!
>>74230074
Jesus' teachings about Global Warming:
...
>>74230315
not an argument
>>74226004
Game of thrones is shit.
I finally watched some of it, it's shit.
Go outside, TV is cancer. Once you stop being involved in the hype machine you see what it really is.
>>74230074
>Star of David on woman's shirt
Is this an edit?
I have to get out of here. I just can't take THIS FUCKING SHIT ANYMORE! FUCK EVERYTHING WHY DIDN'T I TAKE THE BLUE PILL?!
I don't want to live on this planet anymore
You cannot run from this Francis. You are so EXPOSED
>>74230080
Read Genesis please
>>74230489
dankest memes by commander knightmarez
>>74230320
you may not consider Francis to be a Marxist, but you gotta admit he's a dirty Peronista with "anti-imperialist" (read anti-West) tendencies, and strong belief in the state as a driving force of development and wealth, rather than of corruption and stagnation.
>>74230362
We've had bad popes before. Bergoglio is just the latest
>>74230639
I have. It didn't change my mind.
>>74226252
underrated post
>>74226004
First bits right the rest is bullshit.
Either way still a Semitic religion.
>>74230074
>>74230701
who cares? You guys misinterpret what being a pope means. He says these things to avoid being slandered 24/7 by heathens and heretics. The doctrine and dogma of the Church remain unchanged. Do I agree with his PR? I don't, that does not mean you have to annoy the shit out of us everyday with every little thing he says and make such a big deal out of it.
>>74230712
We've had much worse 2bh, he is probably not even in the top 5 of the worst.
>>74229413
>Mellisa Click
Holy shit, that's hilarious
>>74226004
>>By contrast, the pope praised this month's election of Sadiq Khan as the first Muslim mayor of London.
It sounds like a fucking game.
Like you have nigger points, you lose them when talkig wrong about dindus, and gain when applause to black or muslim. When you lost too many - you stumped, when you have too maney - you are cuck.
>>74230924
>He says these things to avoid being slandered 24/7 by heathens and heretics.
Yes, he's constantly trying to pander to the political enemies of the Catholic Church, in hopes that they soften their heart and convert.
It's obviously not working.
>>74231390
>It's obviously not working.
You'd be surprised. It actually works a lot with normies who don't care about religion or the church. It does not work at all with other denominations and religions though
>>74226004
>The Romanish Cult
>Papists ever being right
So kebabs are subhuman and can't tolerate or live under Western civilization? Maybe we need to find a solution for this problem. A final one maybe.
>>74231757
No, people may stop being rapid against the Church, but they never actually convert, they remain atheist pro-hedonism and pro-abortion. The Church needs people with faith, not friendly outsiders.
Just look at evangelical churches: it grows like wild fire here because they're extremely vocal about their actual dogma even if it offends the left. They don't get friendly outsiders, rather a lot of haters and smears, but they do get a lot of real supporters.
>>74232185
meant *rabid
>>74232185
>but they never actually convert, they remain atheist pro-hedonism and pro-abortion
I never said they do, but they stop attacking the Church 24/7
>. The Church needs people with faith, not friendly outsiders.
Of course, I agree. I don't agree with his policy. Just telling it as it is.
I liked it better when they just fucked kids. At least then they weren't actively ruining the world.
>>74231800
This has already happened in the past after a year or so we started up the crusades.
>>74230701
Fuck globalism and modern materialism.
The decadence and decay all around is because of the poisoned fruit springing forth from the dying tree of enlightment liberal values.
>>74227491
>NOT DOING ANYTHING TO BREAK CULTURAL BARRIERS AND INSTRUCT THEM
Completely irrelevant.
The population substitution would still be very real, islam or not.
>>74232414
yea but that well in itally got filled bruh. no more room to hide th bodies
an they to lazzy to move the well to the curb for trash pick up. its only 15 feet
>>74226252
'Friar Cuck' deserves a Bantz award.
A-At least I'm not gonna burn in hell
>>74226004
Can Pope Urban II please descend from Heaven and kill this cuck then declare another crusade?
>>74227168
He sacrificed Himself.
Papa Footsies is sacrificing other Christians.
pic related about "self preservation"
ppl dying for a cause doesn't equal being little faggots and offering their asses for the enemy
When will people realize that Islam is still the enemy of everyone who isn't a Muslim? When?
>>74227482
By that logic, where does freewill fit in?
>>74227536
I smell shit in that post Australia...
>>74233697
The Catholic position on anything is probably most well described as being moderate. Through exercising your will, you can avoid a lot of sin, but because human willpower is not perfect it's normal to fail at this every now and then. That's why we have confession
>>74226004
>Cathlicucks
Good thing I'm Baptist. Everybody I know is nationalist as fuck and hates mudslimes and niggerism.
In all honesty, this man needs to go. I had friends in Europa telling me for years: "Our JEsuits are your Jews."
However, he IS correct about the "Exporting democracy" bullshit and custefuck it caused in Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan.
But other than that part, he won't even support his own people? I wonder what donations from the few wealthy NY/Boston families who used to give big money have been like since this fucking commie asshole?
If you go back decades, it was always claimed that the pope after this one would be the anti-christ-- supposedly even one of the prophecies of Fatima.
I wonder if those prophecies really meant him, since the old pope is actually still alive, and is the first..I think ever to give up the papacy while still alive.
One has to ask why exactly he did it... This cuck is destroying us. MY family wasn't that wealthy, but gave well over 80k to the Catholic Church over the years between my grandparents and parents.
And for what? To have them spit in our faces? I need to find a reactionary Catholic group that still practices pre-Vatican 2 Catholicism-- where naming the Jew was part of the basis of the religion.
>>74234022
>Good thing I'm Baptis
You are just as bad. In the US, Lutherans are probably the worst, and are single-handedly responsible for flooding Minnesota with Somalis in exchange for some gvt grant shekels.
In the process, they destroyed what had been the whitest, most peaceful state there was.
>>74226405
You have no idea what you're talking about
>>74228132
I don't recall the bible saying anything about a deal
>>74229385
>incapable of evil
>gives in to sin
Pick one
>>74229385
So prior to commuting sin, there was no free will. So it was determined they would sin, and in exchange they got freewill?!
Hurr?
