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Please sign this petition. Duncan's life has been ruined by The Australian '''''''''news''''''' paper for no other reason that he exposed the Liberal parties agenda on national tv.

Help stand up to the Murdoch Empire and the conservatives who hate the poor. The want to destroy Medicare, Education and the labour laws that made this country great.

https://www.change.org/p/press-council-and-acma-suspend-publication-of-news-corp-for-leading-duncan-on-suicide-watch?recruiter=239232626&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-no_msg&fb_ref=Default
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Bumping for visabillity. We cannot let the right-wingers control the media. We need to regulate the newspapers to stop them doing hit pieces on poor people like Duncan
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The media in this country are a joke. They belittle the poor, attack muslims all while the rich are not paying their fair share in tax. Why don't they report on the Panama Papers?
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final bump
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No-one cares about him, senpai.

The only people raising their fists in protests are privileged left-wingers, who, if they were to encounter this guy in any other context than TV, would have no second thoughts in crossing the street or sidling a little farther away on the bench.

He's a scapegoat for both sides. He'll be used and tossed aside, then forgotten in the coming weeks.

tldr; No-one cares. Move on.
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>Muh Aussie battlers.
>Supporting deadbeat drug addicts.
>60,000 toaster.
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>Medicare, Education and the labour laws that made this country great
TOP kek
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>criminal abusive drug addict
>asking for mo money fo dem programs

sounds about right
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>>74064870

Back to /leftypol/, dingo
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can someone tell me if i'm missing something here? i've been trying to follow this story

>gets paid $16 an hour driving a truck part time
>collects $400 in welfare
>pays a fraction of the tax that someone who gets paid $80k does
>wants a tax break

it doesn't make sense? what are these dickheads rallying around exactly?
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>>74064870
>Cries poor
>Has two children

Fuck off, this cunt is a leech. He can go fuck himself. Wish this cunt never got any of my Tax dollars.
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>>74067440
just a true blue aussie battler trying to raise his kids, all he's asking for is a good wage and lower taxes :^)
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>>74067440
Why should people who get 80k get breaks from the gov when people like Duncan are struggling. Now you may not agree with his past, but he brings up a good point.
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>Own children call you shit for being a wife and kid beater who got them on drugs
>left still defends him

and I feel no surprise. The perfect Liberal family.
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>>74067775

Everyone should get a break from the government.

Get rid of welfare so we can lower taxes for everyone.
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>>74068121

But then the poor will starve retard.
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>>74067839

Thats just Murdoch being Murdoch. No body gave a fuck about him untill he started questioning his overlords. No, if you are poor in this country and want justice, the conservatives will bury you. It is disgusting what The Australian did to this man. He is on Suicide watch for fucks sake.
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>Caring about a meth head faggot that pays fuck all income tax who beats his wife and children
Literally the scum of Australia
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>>74068797

Forget about his past, there are millions of Aussies just like him. But no your right, it's the poor who are the problem.
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>>74067754

Exactly. This guy gets it.
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>>74067775
The movement of 80k--->87k is literally just removing bracket creep for those above that rate you imbecile.

Those earning actual low wages haven't pay less tax than currently for decades because of the shifting of the tax free threshold to 18k from 6k.


The fact that anybody thinks a movement of the 80k tax bracket is an issue shows how good the most recent budget was on the poor.
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>I-it's not fair that I have to pay GST like everyone else.
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>>74069011
>Millions of other violent meth heads
Better off without them
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>>74064870
>struggle to survive
>can't take my kids out
>life is tough

Why the FUCK is no one asking why a middle aged man with mental health issues who works minimum wage, meaning he has been unable to develop a skill set beyond that of a high school drop out teen, decided to take on the most expensive life choice one can make not once BUT FUCKING TWICE???

Holy shit you should need a license to have a baby
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>>74066845
>>74065421
>>74065039
>>74064870
obviously no one gives a fuck about your no name kid toucher you autistic faggot
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>>74064870
>The want to destroy Medicare, Education and the labour laws that made this country great.
good
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I can't tell, is he a shitposter, or are shitposters shitposting because they are shitposters. Is it all just shitposting?

Dammit Aussies, go read "The Boy Who Cried... But It was just Shitposting, Dumbcunt!" by H.C. Anderson.
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>>74069497

Fuck off Moldova. Maybe if you had these things your country wouldn't be the butthole of Europe
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How does someone this retarded manage to get a wife and kids while I can't :(
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>>74069541
Op is a shit poster acting left to rile up Aussies and in response is getting blasted by other shit posters talking shit about this methhead. Do you truly for a second believe that OP is as stupid as he types?

I'm breaking shitpost law here ffs revealing who's side is who's
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>>74069405

Money shouldn't stop people having children. People should be put before profits, not the other way round.

The quality of a childs life should not be dependant on how rich their parents are. They havn't done anything, why should the kids suffer?
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>>74069653
Fair enough. OP is a fag. As always.
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>>74067775
He pays zero net tax you moron. He's a welfare leech.

HE PAYS NO TAX.
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This thread is confusing.

Police your own shitposters, dingos.
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>>74069653

The problem with us Aussies is that no one believes us when we are trying to have a proper discussion about a huge issue in our country.

Pic related
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>>74069692
>Money shouldn't atop people having children

Nigguh now I know you trollin
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>>74069785
You know why it's confusing? OP is actually 100%, unironically genuine in whatever he is saying. So of course we're all fucking confused.

OP, just go home. 4chan is not the website for you, bro.
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>>74069747

What is GST? What is council rates? What is Petrol levy. Some people are just so retard that they don't know basic shit and then they will just go and attack the poor. I hope you know how happy you make your Murdoch masters.
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>>74069904
He loves at home so pays no council rates. The GST he pays is the same as every other citizen in the country. The petrol levy he pays is the same as every other citizen in the country.

Maybe if he wasnt a junkie loser he'd have more money?
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>>74069746
Exactly, see
>>74069692
>money shouldn't stop people have children

>>74069823
It's the fucking worst on /int/, I always try to start a genuine discussion about culture and shit and no one ever takes it seriously because of THE EBIN SHIDPOST fucken reputation we've built. We've made this bed and now we need to die in it
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>>74068579
Or they can fucking work...
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>>74064870
>change.org

Yeah, nah, you can fuck off you Soros shill cunt
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>>74064870
You are right mate, the attack on this guy was way over the top. Anyone, doesn't matter how poor, should be able to ask politicians questions. His question was legitimate and he was not rude at all.
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Explain what this is about and why I should care
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>>74070214
Or they can stab you in your fucking eye and take your stuff, tbqh pham.
Careful what you wish for, you cunt
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>>74070357
Some poor fuck wants a tax break and it's 2016.
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>>74070109

But he is poorer than most. Why should everyone pay the same amount of tax. Why shouldn't the rich pay their fair share?
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>>74069564
>irony
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>>74067775
Haha, as if higher income earners get fucking tax breaks. I earn >300k a year before tax and I get taxed up the bloody arse to pay for the welfare that these bogan dickheads live off. I no joke have to pay 50k a quarter in tax and you know where that money goes? Not to necessary services, but to helping immigrants get in, paying for homeless people and failures because stomping out hard workers to help worthless leeches survive is better than just letting high income earners keep more of their money.
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check
my
doubes
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>>74064870
fuck off duncan. you should not have revealed your power lvl to the public.
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>>74067199
lmao this
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>>74070379
>implying I haven't had a junkie pull a knife on me before I bashed his ugly head in

I don't know what you think they're like, but they're hardly superman
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>>74070638
check my three
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>>74069653
OP is actually one of us guys. But he probably spent a lot of time debating this is with lefties and is trying to get some good responses.

One pro tip with pol is asking for help wont get it unless you frame the question in a provocative way like OP
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>>74070423
I always thought in Australia you had a small state and paid hardly any tax

How does it compare to ours
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>>74070426
> fair share
also wtf is this murdoch bs

you leftist twats run the media and push your pc bullshit all time

but srsly what is fair share? why does anyone owe YOU money for their own work
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>>74070824
Australia is a statist nightmare. The avg family pays around 1/3 to 1/2 their income in tax if you account for gst and rates
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That guy looks like a bum. He has no care for his appearance. He's poor because of his own choices
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>>74070426
How are you going to magically increase the GST and petrol taxes for rich people? He is paying taxes through everyday purchases. Zero income tax. How can he pay any less? Give him a centerlink card which magically takes 10% off everything?

I agree the rich can always pay more income tax, but your argument of it being to benefit him or give him more breaks is retarded
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>>74070983
> That guy looks like a bum. He has no care for his appearance.
Says it all

Same reason cucks like Bernie go for his look

So he gets pity from leftists
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>>74070426
>fair share

Define fair share. Where do you draw this line. He shouldn't pay gst on his milk but I should?

I'm really curious as to what point in the sand you draw this line
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>>74070994
> I agree the rich can always pay more income tax, but your argument of it being to benefit him or give him more breaks is retarded
You are the cancer destroying this country.
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>>74064870
Duncan can suck my dick, faggot.
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>>74064870
>pay no tax
>want a tax break

>someone buys expensive commercial grade food prep equipment for their restaurant so they can make more and hire extra staff
>bully them for days

Fuck Melbourne #fuckmelbourne @fuckmelbourne
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>>74070835
>you leftist twats run the media and push your pc bullshit all time

There is not a single left-wing media outlet in the country. There are 3 centrist outlets, the ABC, SBS and Fairfax. The rest are right-wing. How does 'the left' run the media?
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>>74071041
Rich people got rich by exploiting workers and etc etc Ergo tax them because giving the state more money and power will make everything better
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>>74064870

>goes on QandA to complain about not getting a big enough tax break
>doesn't even pay tax
>has a history of substance abuse

he brought it on himself, the guy's an idiot and should never have gone and qanda
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>>74070537
>300k

Ok please tell us what you do. I do hope you're not talking out your arse here to help your point mate

And what is with this board and somehow attracting the top 10% income earners for their nation? Everyone is a self made millionaire who didn't go to uni here, what gives.
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>>74070877
And because of that, we have the best living conditions on this planet. Tax is the price you pay for being a member of a 1st world civilisation. I'd rather pay more tax then live in a country with a shit tier health care system (for example).

> pays around 1/3 to 1/2 their income in tax

tad hyperbolic there m8
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>>74071095
>SBS
>centrist
Is this a new level of b8?
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>>74071095
Centrists? Seriously. I can't imagine what you define right wing as?

SBS is leftist to the core. By that I mean socialist, anti-gun, anti-religion, anti-traditional values, pro LGBT

The media always pushes for more refugees, never reports black on white crime and if it does it rarely delves into race, always gives more credence to the socialist

Also what do you define as right wing?
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>>74071129
Who gives a fuck? The question he asks is still valid and relevant. Why the fuck do you defend Liberal's financial policy? It's not like you are benefiting from it.
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holy shit this country is autistic as fuck, libs running like crazy, people get insulted with the slightest joke, everyone fucking cries, I am starting to think the Chinese here are the ones who will one day own the fucking land. WTF is wrong with you Aussies, I am here on vacation and everything is filth, dont get me wrong you have nice people here but the guilt and the fucked up mentality of some of you hurts.
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>>74071176
Hardly. http://www.news.com.au/national/welcome-to-the-welfare-nation-half-of-australias-families-pay-no-net-tax/story-fncynjr2-1226911042149

Watch Stefan Molyneux's video on Australia

We are in debt and our public services are terrible. If you are young you cant talk about healthcare
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>>74071118
It really is amazing seeing a shitposter work his craft. The responses so fine tuned that they can strike all the necessary points in so few words.
>exploiting
>tax more
>state more power
Just a frenzy of bait in such a small post. Amazing.
10/10 friend

>>74071095
>abc
if I read one more article about trans people I'm going to hang myself
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>>74071294
How is it valid? Why does anyone owe you jack you greedy bastard
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>>74071364
Nah I am cutting him some slack and writing you his response instead
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>>74071362

>2016
>Recommending Molynjew

ISHYGDDT
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>>74071294
Don't like facts and data?
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>>74071437
not an argument

>>74071475
exactly this

he can only level an argument based on emotions
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>>74071437
This was for you
>>74071475
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>>74071425
Was a great post comrade
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>>74071224

I define right wing as the xenophopic, union bashing tabloid ''''''''''news'''''''''' that we are force fed every day in this country. There is no reporting on how the rich are fucking this country over.
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>>74064870
If he has a disability and mental illness, and knows he can't be on more than minimum wage, then why did he have multiple children.

Yeah his situation is pretty shitty, but it's self induced.
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>>74064870
Murdoch is a republican

Fox News and News Corp are Democratic Operations that donate more to Democrats than Republicans.
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>>74071362
> We are in debt and our public services are terrible.

LNP is doing a stellar job fucking it up right now.

> If you are young you cant talk about healthcare

What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>74071294
>It's not like you are benefiting from it.

It helps everyone who is average wage and above you literal drongo
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>>74071544
I could do a phd dissertation on your shitposting

keep it up

this country is in a sad state of affairs when people like you make up the majority
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>>74071553
Disability here is "I gave the welfare workers enough shit to get on it"
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>>74071553
Probably he likes girls.
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>>74071587
> LNP is doing a stellar job fucking it up right now.
I am not for either Liberal or Labor. Liberal Democrats.

> What the fuck does this even mean?
When you're older and getting treated for more serious ailments and require specialist care you will fund our health services lacking greatly.
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>>74071575

>citation needed
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>>74071604
They don't, greens are political pariahs. Especially with the shit going on in Europe.
The concept of the silent majority is in effect in Australia.
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>>74071600
What? Giving tax breaks for those who are better off? That helps everyone? How?
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>>74071775
More money to go into economy.
Pro Tip the economy isn't your local supermarket.
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>>74064870
Rupert Murdoch isn't a liberal... wtf are you talking about?
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>>74071775
i love how you dodge questions you're uncomfortable answering like why anyone owes you anything

read some economics
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>>74071720
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/27/news-corp-pac-donates-to-more-democrats_n_2775997.html

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/fox-news-parent-company-funneling-money-to-dems/

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/172321-report-obama-top-recipient-of-news-corp-donations
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>>74071667
> When you're older and getting treated for more serious ailments and require specialist care you will fund our health services lacking greatly.

Ok, i give you that. Mental health care is particularly sub standard. That said, I was merely comparing our system with other affluent countries, which I still think we're in a good position.
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I don't give a shit about the literally who pensioner but it's always fun to watch sissy-boy Murdoch getting knocked about
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>>74064870
>>74065039
>>74065421
>>74066845
Get fucked traitor. Take your degenerate whining ass back to plebbit.
>>74067199
>>74067258
These blokes know whats up.
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>>74071176
>And because of that, we have the best living conditions on this planet.
No, you stupid cunt, no. Only a fucking retarded tassie incest-baby could possibly be stupid enough to believe that. You have a political system even more corrupt than the US, corruption levels that would shock even an amerifat are not hidden, but trumpeted, during your elections. Your national obsession is tricking asians into doing the productive work so that 'whites' can remain entitled to sit on their ass and drink piss day and night. If that's your idea of 'best living conditions on the planet' by all means, keep them, enjoy them, wallow in them. No one else wants it.
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>>74071884
America leads the world in medical research although they dont have a free market/capitalist system

Plenty of Canadians cross the border to America to get treatment otherwise they suffer on the waiting list

http://healthreformquestions.com/american-health-care-facts.php
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>>74071861
> trickle-down economy meme
Don't tell me you actually believe in that shit.
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>>74071775

The average australian yearly salary is 80K

If you're below that, you have nobody but yourself to blame
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>>74072139
The problem with US health care system is that if you dare to get really sick, you are pretty much going to be financially ruined.
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>>74072178

In his book Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy, economist Thomas Sowell fleshes out his criticism that the term "trickle down" is a mischaracterization of conservative economic views:


"There have been many economic theories over the centuries, accompanied by contraversies among different schools of economists. But one of the most politically prominent economic theories today is one that has never existed among economists - the "trickle down" theory.


"People who are politically committed to policies of redistributing income and who tend to emphasize the conflicts between business and labor, rather than their mutual interdependence, often accuse those opposed to them of believing that benefits must be given to the wealthy in general or to business in particular, in order that these benefits will eventually "trickle down" to the masses of ordinary people. But no recognized economist of any school of thought has ever had any such theory or made any such proposal. It is a straw man. It cannot be found in even the most voluminous and learned histories of economic theories.


1/2

read up nigger
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>>74072178
"Proposals to reduce taxes on capital gains, for example, are often opposed politically by saying that those who make such proposals believe in a "trickle down" theory of economics. In reality, economic processes work in the directly opposite way from that depicted by those who imagine that profits first benefit business owners and that benefits only belatedly trickle down to workers.


"When an investment is made, whether to build a railroad or to open a new restaurant, the first money is spent hiring people to do the work. Without that, nothing happens. Even when one person decides to operate a store or hamburger stand without employees, that person must first pay somebody to deliver the goods that are going to be sold. Money goes out first to pay expenses and then comes back as profits later - if at all. The high rate of failure of new businesses makes painfully clear that there is nothing inevitable about the money coming back. "Even with successful and well-established businesses, years may elapse between the initial investment and the return of earnings. From the time when an oil company begins spending money to explore for petroleum to the time when the first gasoline resulting from that exploration comes out of a pump at a filling station, a decade may have passed. In the meantime, all sorts of employees have been paid - geologists, engineers, refinery workers, truck drivers. It is only afterwrads that profits begin coming in. [...]


"In short, the sequence of payments is directly the opposite of what is assumed by those who talk about a "trickle-down" theory. The workers must be paid first and then the profits flow upward later - if at all." (Basic Economics, pp. 388-389)

>>74072290
thats because of gov't regulation

further deregulation would increase competition and make it more affordable
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>>74072128
> You have a political system even more corrupt than the US

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

Jesus fucking christ. Stop smoking meth dickead. You Amerifags are beyond help. Brainwashed and completely distracted from the crypto-fascism that's happening under you nose.
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>>74072578
I dont think we would deny america is corrupt but this country is shifty as hell

the mafia runs half of melbourne
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>>74072578
Even American politicians still have enough shame they don't go out and explicitly run on a platform of importing brown people to do the jobs so the whites can bludge and drink. And we might have drug issues but we don't try to pretend they are virtues.
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>>74070537
why the idiotic and reductive narrative that your taxes are only for bogans and immigrants (ooh scary) living on welfare? your taxes are certainly for welfare, but they are also for education, infrastructure, and public health. if you don;t want to pay taxes, fine. But don't send your children to school, don't use the fucking roads or catch a bus, don't call the police, don't ask for legal aid, and don't go to the fucking doctor or have a life saving operation, because you don't deserve the privilege to do so.
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>>74070168
>We've made this bed and now we need to die in it
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>its another auspol shill for duncan episode

its over guys, the meme has been dispelled

lets look forward to tomorrows episode of q and a where a somalian is going to btfo mudslimes and lefties
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>>74065421
>belittle the poor, attack muslims
Good
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>>74072487
Actually, it's a mix of R&D costs, subsidies, and quality control regulation, and the fact that hospitals aren't allowed to turn down broke, uninsured people.
The cost won't go down unless we leave the sickly poor to die, stop leading the world in medical advancements, let those who make the medical supplies go out of business, and then decrease the requirements of being able to practice medicine in the USA - which'll cause more cases of medical malpractice, which we already have enough of.
It's a very complex, fucked-up situation. Changing one thing won't do jack shit.
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