At what age were you freed from Christian brainwashing?
What do you believe now?
Do you think Christianity should be outlawed?
>>74064367
I was never baptised, I was raised with common sense.
In the current modern world of degeneracy traditional christianity would do more good than harm and probably keep the refugees out
What we REALLY need is a good, new pseudo-religion without a god but heavy emphasis on traditional virtues and a sense of unity amongst one's kind
Was never indoctrinated. No one has ever tried to force Christianity on me, I've never been to the church, I've never read the bible.
This is how it should be. Let us think for ourselves.
My parents are (probably) atheists and they hate niggers, and fags. They're not like American atheists who shove bananas up their asses and whine about being white.
>>74064367
noped out at noah's ark when I was about 8, got back into it when I realized the purpose of religions.
the ability for adults to take these stories as fact amazes me.
>>74064367
>>74064367
Never felt any real connection to it; even as a child, I knew that "praying" was just thinking to yourself. There was nothing listening to your thoughts.
Finally took a hard look at it around age 14 and realized religion was a huge pile of unsubstantiated, superstitious horseshit.
I think Christians should be looked down upon as ignorant and uneducated.
I think Islam should be outlawed and all Muslims deported.
>>74064367
I outgrew my fedora phase around 25. I was a late bloomer.
>>74064367
I have never been baptised and I was never part of the church. No, Orthodoxy is important to Russia. Stalin had to bring it back during the war because of how important it as. Major concession for Communists.
>>74064700
>Let us think for ourselves.
Soz broz, doesn't work like that in a society where a Judeo-atheist media and Education system doesn't let you think.
>>74064367
>christianity is equal to having your head squished into a bible
>islam is equal to having your head chopped off
>atheism is equal to getting hit by a rock in the head and then given a fedora to cover up your gaping wound
>judaism is equal to getting your dich chopped off
>>74064583
>Let's set objective moral standards for people to worship and adhere to
>But let's remove the one soul source of those objective standards
Ebin, Finland :DDD. Go back to making more Spurdo memes.
>>74065019
You don't have to pick who tells you what to think. Reject them all.
It's only in cucked Anglosphere and cucked part of Europe where rejecting Christianity equals sucking Jew Marxist dick.
>current year
>not being hindu masterrace
>>74065066
why do you think abrahamic religions split up so hard
its because they worshipped a god instead of the virtues
if the virtues theirselves were worshipped it would be impossible for the religion to split up
>>74064367
I think Christian upbringing is a great way to instill great morals in children. Like a moral Santa. And I'll raise my kids that way because even if I don't actually believe in a God, I do believe in good.
>>74065184
If Hindu is masterrace why are you not in Hindu India?
>>74064367
24 and still indoctrinated
Seen too much in my life and /x/ tier experiences to think any other way. Of course bananas are just going to say I'm hallucinating but that's not my problem.
>>74065192
Virtues/Sin are completely arbitrary and relativistic concepts, and God was merely used and is used to justify their objectivity by granting them a superior, divine source.
How difficult is this to grasp?
You could argue that some seemingly objective virtues exist, akin to diligence to grant an example, but even then, you must understand that the general masses aren't bent on living the life devoted to virtue.
>>74064367
Christian values >>>> The current dominant religion of secular morality and state worship
Watch Moly's newest video
I chose to be Christian and am the most ardent believer on both sides of my family.
Explain this.
>inb4 stupid
Only engineering grad in my generation, second engineering grad overall, generally score over 130 on IQ tests job places force me to do. For lurkers, I'm that Australian.
Agnostic master race.
There may be a higher power, but none of our earth born religions are it.
Our 'God' is most likely the thing that switched the universe simulation on.
>>74065512
Christian values are western ones with a religious twist. The greeks and romans had morals long before christianity.
>>74064367
Around middle school. You know, around the time you start thinking about things, or at least I did.
>>74065645
And yet in the late 20th Century Christianity all but died off in the West and now all these values are waning quickly
While they may not need to be tied to Christianity, it seems like they need something ritualistic and traditional to keep relevant.
>What we REALLY need is a good, new pseudo-religion without a god but heavy emphasis on traditional virtues and a sense of unity amongst one's kind
We have one is called Buddhism
>>74065789
Christian countries in Latin America and Africa are so pure and free of degeneracy. We definitely need to follow their lead :^)
>>74064583
>What we REALLY need is a good, new pseudo-religion without a god but heavy emphasis on traditional virtues and a sense of unity amongst one's kind
So, National Socialism then?
>>74066006
>Buddhism
>Not the epic asceticism meme that got way out of hand
>>74064963
I was a fedorafag from about 14 till 24. I'm so glad Christ and His people have forgiven me for being such an insufferable cunt.
>>74064367
Atheism is jewish
>>74065342
Somewhat this.
Once you really delve into the realm of the subjective and realize by default reality can't exist without a conscious observer, it becomes hard to take materialistic/atheism seriously. At the same time its always easy to see how bullshit organized religion be
>>74066041
This is true, I think there is a definitely a divorce and these countries are following the mythology more than the values
Plus they're all non-white so they're going to be worse by default.
I still think that a stronger religious focus would at least improve the white west compared to our current secular morality and state worship. I agree that Christianity isn't the complete solution. Especially now what it's become.
>>74065192
There are no reasons to consider anything a virtue, you retard. That is how atheism has killed the world, by removing any source of authority, good and evil.
>>74065136
Except no given that atheists in France, Germany, Scandinavia etc are almost invariably Leftist and many in Eastern Europe align with neo-Communist movements.
Atheism is a Jewish Marxist ideal. You do realise this? The USSR wasn't the world's first explicitly atheist country for nothing after all.
>>74066209
Traditionalist reformation of the church is necessary. It has become weak and feminised after the counter culture revolution of the 60's. Fucking boomers literally ruined the west economically and culturally.
>>74064367
Why do you blame Christianity for shitty parenting you received?
Probably about 17. Grew up Catholic. I never enjoyed being forced to go to church sometimes 3-4 times a week plus Wednesday night bible teachings or an additional Sunday night bible study. I finally told my parents I didn't want to do it anymore and since I was leaving to go to college, I wasn't going to church. I feel like I had little childhood because I was always at church.
I don't believe it should be outlawed, but I believe religion is a choice and one should be given the freedom to practice or not practice it.
>>74064367
Dad's and atheist, mom's a hippy that was raised Catholic, still believes it but left it up to us to choose whether to believe. I was baptized by my grandma in her kitchen sink as a baby, but aside from that, very little to no pressure from my family.
I ended up being a Christian and believing in God for a number of reasons. First because all of the friends that I still have today are faithful, it was always the atheists/agnostics that would stop talking or hanging out with people, especially if you were practicing or considering being faithful.
Second, after getting my degree in physics, I have realized that a lot of things just can't be explained. Many professors would have you accept certain things as fact without anything to back it up, like dark matter. An overwhelming majority of the mass in the universe is unaccounted for, so what do astronomers say? "It's all made up of something we cannot see, measure, or observe in any way, but we know it's there." There's a quote from Heisenberg that goes something like "The first sip from the glass of science will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom God is waiting." Most atheists like to act like they are so smart because they took and introductory philosophy or physics course and use the whole "hurry I only believe in things I can observe, like science cuz I'm so much more intellectual than you." Bullshit, if you bring up things like dark matter and quantum mechanics they stumble and make up some stupid explanation that doesnt make sense.
Cont.
>>74066302
>Atheism is a Jewish Marxist ideal.
That certainly explains all of the atheists that existed before Marx was even born.
>>74066433
Dubs spittin truth
Check it
>>74064367
I'm culturally an Anglican Christian but I have never believed in God. This means I can have good Christian values without being dogmatic.
>>74066680
>Swede
>Anglican
Wat
>>74065342
>Seen too much in my life and /x/ tier experiences to think any other way.
Same
>I have frail limbs
>I have eyes that I think perceive the world correctly, but they play funny games on me every now and then
>I have ears that sometimes do not perceive sounds they should perceive and I have to ask people what did they say
>If I want to look at your bones I need a technological device.
>My technological devices are limited and their purpose is to serve my also limited organs
>But trust me, I know if there is a God or not based off the fucking nothing I can see
>There is no better way to approach reality, our minds are to be laid to waste because of our current limitations
>And I call myself smart because I'm thinking in such a stupid manner.
Fedoras, everyone.
>>74064367
>oy vey dese goys dont need no religions!
every fucking thread ever
>>74064367
Age 10, right after my first communion. Now age 27, I'm coming back. Fuck atheists.
>>74066736
I'm an Anglo-Swede
>>74064367
i grew up in a secular household and became a Christian at around 14.
no one forced me, and the world in general did a pretty good job at persuading me not to.
>>74066433
Which leads to point 3, atheists are a bunch of hypocrites. The majority (except those that I've seen on /pol/) are big supporters of any religion as long as it isn't Christianity. Seriously, ask any real life atheist you know how they feel about Christianity, and they'll give you a speech about how it's destroying our world and needs to be stopped. Ask them about Islam afterwards and their tone and demeanor completely changes, and they quickly say that we need to respect other cultures and religions, and only evil Christians destroy the world. They should be anti-Christians rather than atheists. At least Christianity has secularized to the point that it's compatible with western cultures, Islam is going to have a hard time doing that, and I personally think it's impossible. The newer breed of Christians have even accepted evolution as a part of reality, and many integrate it into the creationism idea (God kickstarted evolution, and took his hands off the wheel to see what happens), Genesis can be read to support that idea as well. It's mostly the elderly that keep tring to force their religion into the law, and most of the younger generation is sick of it and can't wait for them to die off.
I guess the biggest point is my last one, which is that my wife finally got pregnant and we are looking for the best way to raise our family. I'm not into the idea that you need to go to a building every Sunday to prove you're a good Christian, but just helping out at a church when you can is a great way to get your kids into youth groups so they can learn how to socialize, and get a good moral foundation. I did that through a good friend of mine and I think it's turned out for the best. It was a process for me, and a personal choice.
>>74066965
i agree with this anon
and congrats on your new child. you're going to enjoy that, trust me
I was baptized as a babby. Ever since childhood, I didn't really feel that much about any religion. I prayed, yeah, but only because that was what I was taught and we have required old testaments and new testaments bible teachings in many schools here in the Philippines. Making confessions also didn't click with me and other religious activities as well. It's just not my thing. I also have stinking personality and I feel like such a plastic while singing bible songs about praises and holding hands with neighbors saying "bless you" even though I know neighbor X raped neighbor Y, neighbor A cheats on her husband, etc. It's so funny. That being said, I like that many religious people are nice and behaved (sans muslims and the other crazy obsessed ones) and so I try to integrate by also replicating niceness. I don't think Christianity should be outlawed.
>>74064367
Richard...? That you?
>>74066552
>Jews supporting Christianity
When has this ever happened?
>>74064817
Thankfully that group is dying out, most of the younger Christians seem to be able to see that the stories are mostly allegorical.
I beleived, prayed to dead family members at night, and had a strong sense of god & heaven. Then at 9 or 10 when I turned into an edgy lilkid I started questioning everything but had no answers. I only brought up atheism to see if someone could give me an answer or prove me wrong but deep down I beleived.
Then around 20 I started putting extreme amounts of thought and research into the occult and science and maybe a dash of schizo and I had a realization and came back.
>tfw all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves
>>74067480
Why thankfully tho? Some of those elderly are our relatives, ya know..
>>74067574
Right idea
>>74067295
All mainstream Christians support Israel and open borders for white countries. Why wouldn't they?
All my friends and family are catholic I personally find the religion incredibly stupid, the more i think about it the less sense it makes.
>>74067758
because the jews are of the synagogue of satan
>>74064367
You're making a lot of assumptions there.
>>74067822
>I personally find the religion incredibly stupid
Catholicism is retarded to the brink, but please pretend you are still catholic or our country will end up like pic related
i was baptized as a catholic but it was just a cultural formality, i thought religion was bullshit as a 9yo already
my dad was pantheist (though he probably didnt know the word)
my mom used to believe in all sorts of voodoo esoteric nonsense (though she's a schizo so no surprise)
at 12yo i was an edgy atheist who liked dawkins, now at 21yo i'm kind of pantheist as well
i dont think christianity should be outlawed lol, it'd be an infeasible undertaking
>>74067587
I meant for their ideas, religion should never be a reason for making any sort of laws. Those people will never have their minds changed either, they are set in their ways, it's partly their fault that we have no particle accelerator in Texas, the thing has been dug out for years and it keeps getting stalled. I'm pretty sure the original reason was because they were scared ot would open a portal to hell. Tons of jobs and opportunities for scentific advancement gone because some old people take the bible too literally.
>In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony science, but because I am enlightened by my faith to the one true master of the Universes, Lord Yahweh, protector of Yisrael and the twelve tribes
>>74066433
Learn the difference between an/and prior to having a child. It'll help in the long run.
>>74067758
Nice try shlomblatt.
Now answer the question: when have Jews ever supported Christianity?
>>74067849
And Christians work for them, willingly. Christians do more damage than atheists do because Christians have more power, money and influence in society. US evengelicals and the pope are more important and powerful than Richard Dawkins and bananaboy.
>>74068021
Insane in the membrane flag
>>74064367
You have some homework to finish for tomorrow, don't you?
>>74067964
>pantheism
The far east had it right all along
>>74066556
>>74067114
Thanks anons, we are super excited for the baby. Shopping for baby stuff is some of the most fun/emotionally positive things we've done this year. Note to all anons who might get a woman pregnant: it is hard living with a pregnant women, especially in the 2nd half of the first trimester when it's all just hormones messing with them. It gets better after that but man those months are hell. But I can't wait to be a dad!
>>74068052
Sorry, typing on a phone. It likes to auto correct an to and a lot when I type fast. But I do get what you're saying, thanks b0ss.
>>74067822
Watch:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM
and at least the first 30 minutes of this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A
It will make more sense to you.
>>74067964
How can you read Dawkins and be a pantheist? I'm pretty sure I remember him or Hitchens saying pantheism was the most stupid form of theism. At least Christians and Hindus and Muslims have the excuse of being indoctrinated as children. Pantheism is literally the most unscientific 'muh feels' kind of theism.
I was born in a strict catholic family, we went through all the rituals, communion etc buy that's all they where to me. Sermons made me sleep or most of the time I would just want the birds flying around in the ceiling of the cathedral and the statues and idols really just freaked me the f out.
When I came here to Australia my mother introduced me to some mormon missionaries whom shes said healed my brother's high fever by prayer and laying their hands on the top of his head and I was like yeah whatevs. Well to cut a long story short I went through the discussions with them and got baptised first by water and then by fire, the reception of the Holy Ghost. Two of the most awe inspiring and miraculous moments of my life. So basically there is nothing anyone can do or say that can convince me God isn't real. If you pray to him and allow him to enter your heart through the power of Holy Ghost there is nothing he wouldn't for you. And I mean this literally. and its not instantaneous and not always the way you imagined but he has answered ALL of my prayers and questions in one form of another. Through him you will unlock more knowledge about the universe that you can read in all the books of this world.
I leave these things with you in Jesus's name.
Amen
So why not give it a try anon? What are you afraid? That he might actually exist? Then you would have to account for yourself and everythign you have done, thought and said woudlnt you.. we all do, I'm no angel.. Im here aren't I? But that's what the sacrifice of our saviour is for, Jesus our bigger bro has your back, he will forgive you if you but ask.
>>74065342
>>74066204
Confirming the paranormal experiences are what kill my doubt. I doubt somewhat often but then I realise I'm some uneducated dipshit trying to argue against thousands of years of theology delved into by monastic monks. So much more to the bible than reading at face value
>>74068319
Do you understand the concept behind pantheism?
At the age of 12, i.e. when I started using my own head. A Buddhist atm.
Nothing fundamentally wrong with Christianity, it's just that nobody knows how to use it.
>>74068454
There is literally no concept behind pantheism. "I think there has to be some creator of the cosmos because science hasn't given me literally every answer yet. I just FEEL like there's a god."
>>74066119
Buddhism is not ascetic.
>>74064367
about 7 or 8, upset a vicar when I laughed at the concept to his face.
I bring my kids up to be free thinkers, my oldest daughter believes in God, my youngest at 7 laughs at the concept, had to tell her off once for literally mocking her older sisters belief, I taught her that people are entitled to believe what they want but if it infringes on you then you can speak against it, that's so she doesn't become a fedora 'Atheist'.
Wife never mentions what she believes in.
>>74068687
No. Pantheism is believing that the cosmos/universe itself is equatable with God. The logic being in mythology god is giving credibility with manifesting creation. On the same note, all life is birthed and sustained by the universe of which we are intricately apart of and unable to exist without. Therefore, reality itself is 'god'
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agree, as you can all read the Book?" - Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket", Senaca 1790
>>74065192
>>why do you think abrahamic religions split up so hard.
Vatican greed. East Christianity stayed unified.
>>74065184
Please do not offer my god a peanut. Thank you and come again.
>>74069330
which book?
>>74065645
And those got rotten to the core by the 2nd Century BC.
It seems societies resist only 400 years, then they die do to decay.
>>74069330
sounds like a made up name
>>74068326
>Mormon
Nice try.
>>74069635
AC*
>>74064367
Raised atheist. Taught to seek my own road.
Now Christian. Sat in church right now.
>>74067758
Christian here. Really not a fan of the Jews. But wouldn't mind living in Israel. Mostly white, as well as getting some Jewbo pals to back you up. Would be good. But not a fan of Jews in general.
Ah well.
>>74064367
i was going to church school and at around 12yo i figured out those "authoritative" figures were full of shit and so was their book.
i still believe in god, and i believe the bible sets some good ground rules, but it's an outdated book. all the bible does is personify god, which is a concept that doesn't fit into the framework of an entity that's comparable to a human, but it's the only way you could explain it 2000 years ago.
>>74070000
you forget to mention jewish girls have gigantic tits
>>74070124
>you forget to mention jewish girls have gigantic tits
Bullshit
>>74064367
parents were albanian communists who despised religion. im full orthodox christian now. Its common knowledge that any person who openly is proud of being an atheist is also most likely some sort of degenerate or lefty "progressive".
>>74064367
>Brainwashing
Nice b8 OP How much are you getting paid by Israel in trial of removing traditional family value control?
>>74064367
Was raised without religion, never had any thoughts about it until I came into contact with the super religious.
Technically I converted someone while in 3ed grade, my shining achievement.
>>74064367
at what age did you realize you were a hypocritical faggot who prays to the god of government and never shits on cancerous imperialistic religions like islam and only rip on your parents' religion
>>74064367
I was raised devoid of Christian "brainwashing", but now I have a strong urge to take up Catholicism as a way to reconnect with my cultural heritage (both of my parent's lineages trace back to Spain).
>>74073634
spoiler, the pope is the anti-Christ and the trinity is added later.
>>74073634
>I am a cultural Christian
>>74064367
my parents didnt take me to church. at 1 point when i was in elementary school they signed me up for sunday school and this bus would come by.
i didnt know what was going on the first day but sitting in a room with other kids listening to stupid shit when i could be playing video games wasnt acceptable
so i would wake up early on sunday after that and hide under the house until the bus left. they would honk a few times and my parents would come out and say they cant find me but they know im around some where
after 4th time they stopped coming
My family tried but as a kid I never believed in it. Mostly because church was boring, and my dad always gave me science books. Around 8.
Sunday school teachers got pissed when I asked questions. I read the bible a bit when I went to Hs because mom kept guilting me into it. Bad idea since by that time it all seemed like nonsense, and every religious teacher had a different interpretation.
Tried actually praying when I was 19 and my gramps had cancer. Still died. I shrugged and continued with my life.
I think all theistic religions are wrong, in that there needs to be a god. But the moral lessons are sometimes ok.
>>74064367
I was freed from atheist brainwashing when I turned 21
>>74075064
how can you be brainwashed by atheism if atheism doesn't exist?
>>74064367
I think religion should be an adult activity, 18+ only, like fags and alcohol.
Enlighten yourselves, friends.
>>74075225
Atheist propaganda
>single mom talks 24 hours a day about how she hates Christianity
>is 40 years old and still says edgy stuff like Easter is stupid because we're celebrating the day Jesus was bleeding like he had his period
>says anyone who follows religion is a moron
>tells me when I'm a kid it's okay to do cocaine and go clubbing and she wants me to have six with a gay nigger and marry him when I grow up
>likes Islam for some reason says they're really peaceful
>desperate to move to California
>wants Hilary Clinton to win because Bill Clinton was the best president
>thinks the huffington post is the least bias news source
>when I mentioned one Easter going to church she spit her food all over the table and started laughing
Atheists all have autism
>>74075926
>atheist
>likes Islam
nop
>>74064367
>Christian brainwashing
>I'm so edgy
You're looking for Islam, OP. They have the laws that punish apostates with execution, not Christianity. Try harder.
>>74064367
I was always wary of Christianity, even as a little kid. Something seemed off and I was at playmates from Christian families I never felt at ease. The athmosphere was too tense.
Dad was some sort of vaguely traditional Swedish Lutheran (he was conservative) and mom was more left wing but some sort of north German Lutheran. Neither were active church goers and when me and my siblings asked religious questions such as if there was a god etc, both mom and dad would usually just repoly that we would have to decide that for ourselves when we were grown-ups but also said that the bible, nonetheless was culturally important and a fairly good read.
Religion, although extremely interesting to study and read about, never ever made much sense to me and thus I never became religious in any sense.
Should Christianity be outlawed?
That would probably not do much good, but I do agree with the idea of a strict separation of church and state.
>>74064583
Finland you fucking idiot.
Any moral system devoid of God will be turned into a tool of degeneracy almost overnight. Have you noticed that the most "secular" societies are the ones overrun with degeneracy the most easily? And it's those with the "moral high ground" doing it, since their morality is purely made up to fit their purposes.
This is what is happening in the US, and has already destroyed many other European nations.
>>74064367
My parents didn't teach me religion, however I became interested in philosophy and mysticism in my late teens which led me to the Catholic faith (the /christian/ generals on here were a huge help). I'm planning on joining a Trappist monastery now
>>74076099
You're a retard if you think that
>>74064367
6 years old or something. Because there were no Dinosaurs in the bible (Genesis). And I fucking loved Dinosaurs.
>>74064367
As a repressed tranny. I took great comfort in God. I begged for the strength to resist the urge to transition. I was raised an atheist. But I refused to accept that it was natural for a man to want to become a woman. I knew it was wrong as young as 5 years old. Therapy didn't work. Nothing did.
But then I BELIEVED
And he answered me. A broken boy who wanted to cut his dick off became a man. Every time I lift those weights. I know he's helping me. Keeping the disease at bay. He made me strong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucM9qEk1pIc
>>74076637
sorry friend but the founder of atheism is explicitly against Islam so if she doesn't follow the teachings of atheism she isn't a real atheist :^)
>>74064817
It isnt adults that take these stories, they take them when they are children so they just never stop.
>>74076895
I don't care if she is or isn't a "real atheist" most liberal atheist women hate Christians (because they're evil and sexist and think rape is okay and won't let hem have the birth control pill) but Islam is nice.
Why did the British give you independence? Useless island
>>74077110
not real atheism. not an argument.
try harder leaflet.
>Why did the British give you independence?
I was wondering the same thing for you
>>74064583
Leave it to the chinks and mongs in Finland to shill for Confucianism...
My 5 year old daughter doesn't really know who Jesus is.
She knows about Jews. She knows an apocolyptic Jewish cult infiltrated Rome and infiltrated the Army of Europe a long time ago, which lead to the demonification of the Gods of our ancestors.
She's heard people talk about Jesus, and knows Jesus has to do with the aforementioned Jewish Apocolypse cult.
She's not Christian though. She can be if she wants to be, but I don't recommend it.
>>74077256
I know you're shitposting I'm just going to ignore you until you have something useful to say instead of being "Le ebin troll XD"
>>74064583
We already have that its called discordianism
>>74064367
I'm still Christian, I am an evangelical. Just like reading the bible, interpret it, and what I think about. I don't need to go to church, I am currently at a busy state. As soon later in my life, I want to become a Catholic to be honest
Atheist at 16, and returned into the fold at 18 after I came to the realization that Catholicism has far more answers than fedoras do.
>>74077581
dude face reality, your mom isn't an atheist, she is a crypto-Muslim. Real atheists follow the teachings of Sir Dawkins not whatever cuck trend is popular in your town
>>74076895
>the founder of atheism
>>74077818
>Real atheists follow the teachings of Sir Dawkins
>>74077818
dawkins is agnostic
>>74068506
Could you recommend some material, like a movie or book, which you consider accurate to explain the main ideas of buddhism in a nutshell?
>>74078088
>agnostic
no such thing
>>74077818
Atheism teaches people to believe in the demon spaghetti monster and they eat babies. It's been confirmed. In 4chan
>>74066835
>sometimes my senses fail me
>but they have never seen evidence for a magic performing jewish zombie
>but my senses are perfect
>obviously the only conclusion I can draw from this is that I should worship this jewish zombie my parents taught me about
>>74077021
Personally I find Jesus's ability to not be corrupted incredible
"Let your will be done father! Not mine"
>>74078132
lol
there is atheist you die there is nothing just eternal nothing
agnostic you die there could be something
theist you die you go to heaven or hell
>>74078397
"agnostic" is the phase between processing information and coming to a conclusion.
>>74064367
>At what age were you freed from Christian brainwashing?
It never started. My parents are christian as fuck but they didn't force me to go to church, largely because I was pretty defiantly calling bullshit on how much bullshit it is.
>>74064583
>keep the refugees out
>catholicism
>CHRISTIANISM
You have no idea what you are talking about, both of those are about killing your self-preservation instincts and being as "nice" as possible to anyone in need.
>>74078530
this is bullcrap i have been atheist agnostic and theist, you can go your whole life with there could be something because you dont know
>>74076458
Well I guess you better welcome Islam then cozzie coz Christianity is on it's way out. Allah ackbar
>>74066302
Atheism predates Christianity in the west and is mentioned by famous greek philosophers. Fuck off.
>>74078822
in science there is no such thing as "I know something 100% for sure", so "agnostic" and "atheist" are virtually the same thing. Only non-scientists would see them as different
>>74078822
Tbh, the main religion that's hard is Othordox Christian religion and the one I call bullshit is Hinduism. They have about hundreds of gods like freaking god of sex.
>>74064367
Never, my father is athiest, my mother is agnostic. I was brought up by people who knew Monotheism is the root of most problems.
>>74079016
Atheism and atheism are not the same things.
Atheism is about more than the simple non-belief in God, it has strict ideological tenets that did not exist among the ancient Greeks.
So you fuck off kike.
>>74079126
Why is one any different than several others?
>>74079026
what does it have anything to do with science god made science
you can make up shit as you go all day long
fact is you die as a atheist you think there is nothing.
agnostic when you die there could be something. how the fuck can they be the same?
>>74065512
Molyneux is an atheist. You can be atheist and not associate yourself with retarded leftist gnostic atheists.
>>74064367
I was 20 or 21 when I left that cult. I believe that around puberty, the brain starts to develop complex emotional abstractions before it develops rational thought, and religious visions and "confirmations" happen around this time because of that.
Shouldn't be outlawed because its a free country, even if its disgusting and immoral. It shouldn't be in our government and I wish it wasn't forced on kids...
>>74064367
I think Christianity is the best thing to happen to humanity this past 2000 years, and everything around us shows I'm right. Of course, jews own the media and direct the culture, so we have this thread.
>>74064367
I never was a Christian. I stopped believeing in Islam when I was 14 though.
I've been reading up on the Dharmic religions like Buddhism and Hinduism.
No I don't think Christianity should be outlawed.
>>74079693
A shame you wont have that flag come November.
>>74079443
>how the fuck can they be the same?
their only difference is that in one case you believe 100% and in the second case you aren't 100% sure.
and again, in science there is no such thing as "I know something 100%", not just about this but about any field. So it would be a scientific fallacy to believe something 100% regardless of the subject.
Distinction between agnosticism and atheism is only found in people that assume pure 100% truth is achievable, usually idealistic non-scientists
>>74077818
Being an atheist means not believing in any deity. It has absolutely nothing to do with Dawkins.
>>74079886
Don't bother dude, Christcucks can't comprehend the fact that you don't base your life around some fictional father figure.
I was pretty old, about like 14. I had to read the whole bible the year before to sort of justify it to myself. Like I had to make sure I wasn't just missing something that made it all okay.
I think Christianity is really twisted and not needed for me, but I'm okay with others doing it because they generally aren't prone to terrorism and fucking up my life substantially.
I have this weird sort of idea that morality is an evolutionary trait that to make humans stronger by giving instincts on how to live as a society. Basically morals help humans thrive. So my "religion" is trying to ensure survival of humanity. It's pretty fun because it means I both want to contribute to tech development & have a bunch of kids. It's pretty meaningful to me and more realistic & doesn't have blanket rules that are always true except when they aren't and it encourages you to live life fully and well.
>tfw wasnt raised with any religion so don't have all these weird hang ups about letting down your parents, an imaginary audience always watching you and being guilty over your own thoughts like seemingly everyone else does
>>74079731
>implying I won't be recruited by Trump's Secret Police and work as an undercover agent informing on domestic jihadist cells.
>>74080482
Thats the spirit!
>>74080204
but I was defending atheism. He tried to blame atheism because his cuck liberal mother tried to brainwash him to cuckliberalism and Islam love
>>74064700
>Let us think for ourselves.
>They're not like American atheists who shove bananas up their asses and whine about being white.
see? not all people should be burdened with actually trying to think
>>74080449
This
>>74079762
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
thats it buddy i am going to pray that you die
>>74064367
Same day I learned the Easter bunny wasn't real.
>>74080870
thats why you were never atheist, you just passed a phase of processing the information of Christianity and you called that phase "agnostic"
>>74064817
So you let a Bible story (which may be allegorical) turn you away from actually trying to discover if God is real or not? I'm curious how much thinking about whether or not God exists atheists even do because from most all the ones I've talked to, they just made their mind up when they were like 14 or so and have never really questioned it again.
>>74066965
As an atheist myself, I do not inherently see atheists as being in any way better than any religion. The thing is, you don't have to believe in God to be an idiot. Many atheists are so fucking elitist and think they are better than all religious people, and then they go off and start cults like Athiesm+ and shit.
My worldview pretty much simple states that the bad in the world is created by stupid people. You can be taught to be stupid, like Islamists, or you can just be a piece of trash like people who smoke and litter. people often make bad decisions, and often times are too ignorant to admit they are wrong and correct themselves. This is what is wrong with the world. Stupid people. And stupidity does not discriminate.
>>74064817
>>74081920
And as you can see from my ID, I am a biggoted physical doctor
>>74081975
This is a much more rational form of atheism than I normally encounter if my atheist friends or I ever talk about the possibility of God existing. Stupidity definitely does not discriminate and I don't think their belief in God changes how intelligent that person is at all. Thanks for sharing your viewpoint bro.
>>74064367
>At what age were you freed from Christian brainwashing?
A few years ago at 15
>What do you believe now?
Just an atheist
>Do you think Christianity should be outlawed?
No but the churches should not be tax exempt.
>>74064367
>At what age were you freed from Christian brainwashing?
I was baptised as a Catholic last year.
>What do you believe now?
Catholicism.
>Do you think Christianity should be outlawed?
No.
Sorry to keep posting but can you guys who don't believe God exists also add what idea or conceptual theme helped make your decision for you?
>>74083029
god is a concept based on infinity, infinity is a mathematical fallacy, a negation of reality
>>74064367
>Do you think Christianity should be outlawed?
First Amendment.
>>74064367
1. Around the age of 17 or 18. But really it started when I was 6.
2. Mostly that it doesn't matter what I believe, because when you are dead you're probably just dead. I believe that morals can be informed by reason through examining the subjective concepts of "suffering caused" versus "suffering relieved".
3. No religion should be outlawed, but religion-based arguments should not be used to make laws.
>>74064367
Life long catholic here op and not stopping anytime soon. I'm not exactly what you may call an intellectual, but I'm not quite a sheep either.
I'll keep this brief by saying that once you stop questioning your environment in pursuit of understanding it, that is when you become truly blind.
>>74068205
Congrats! Don't let your child become a libtard. That should be the primary goal.
I have a friend that was raised an atheist and literally never encountered a single religious beleif until he was in his late teenage years, with the exception of some classes on mythology (ie if you asked him what God Christians worship he couldn't tell you).
So here was someone who was completely unbiased. He had never heard anything for or against Christianity. But when he did actually learn about it within less than 10 seconds of the person explaining he had already lost stopped listening. He said he thought the person was mentally ill for believing this and said something along this line "It would be nice if magic existed but it doesn't. People that want magic to be real will just believe it anyway, like how people believe in horoscopes." Another time he compared praying to God to a story he read about a girl that said she was having astral-sex with Sepheroth from final fantasy 7.
I was a little sympathetic to religious people despite being an atheist myself and said that's a ridiculous comparison. He than said "You can't prove she did not have sex with Sepheroth. I cannot prove God is not really talking to people or did everything in the bible." Now I sort of agree with him.
>>74064367
I'm not an urban faggot like you who thinks that degeneracy and stupidity are better than God's word. Just shows how intolleratnt atheists are that they think that Christianity should be outlawed. What are you so pissed off about? You mad that people protest your abortion clinics you stupid degenerate? You should be exterminated, you fag, if you demand that others suffer just so you can rape this nation unchallenged.
