>/pol/ hates niggers
>the best musician in the world was a nigger
/pol/ blown the fuck OUT
and his music was written by white people
>>74061570
not true
>>74061813
Oh look! Shaun left the gate open yesterday! Now Shaun jr. has to pick up all the emus that escaped. Will he be able to solve this dangerous situation of war?
>>74061534
>the best musician in the world
Quantify this statement using empirical data.
>>74061534
Have no idea who that is desu. But when I think of musicians I think of Mozart, Beethoven, etc.
I don't hate black people who are civilized, respectful, and contribute to society. No reasonable person does. The issue is that the vast majority of blacks in the modern day are knuckle dragging violent niggers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za9KLrG3j3w
>>74061534
when it comes to music genres, black people are some of the most innovative IMO
>>74061534
>best musician
>not naming Bach,Hayden,Mozart,Beethoven,Tchaikovsky,Vivaldi,Wagner or any other classic composer/musician
>>74063518
its miles davis you utter pleb
Music is the one thing Black people can do. But White people are still much better at making music. Black musicians are highly overrated and the Black voice gets old really fast.
>>74063454
Whoa there son, don't use such statements against a strayan cunt their brains might just explode.
Why are we even responding to this bullshit thread?
>most greatest musicians, inventors, artists and discoverers were europeans
>blacks are good at jazz or some shit
> W E W U Z G R E A T E S T M U S I C I A N S
>>74061534
The best musician in the world was NOT a nigger.
You fucking idiot.
>>74063395
Oh look! Merkel left the gate open yesterday! Now Merkel jr. has to pick up all the dindus that escaped. Will he be able to solve this dangerous situation of war?
>>74063966
kek
>>74063966
No we won't and that was really good banter!
>Bach
>black
>jazz
Degenerate nigger music
>/pol/ hates australians
>best shitposter in the world was an australian
>>74063670
>black people are some of the most innovative
>be 1920
>niggers obtain European instruments, try to play big band music
>play all the wrong notes
>WELL LOOKIE HERE BOSS WE DONE INVENTED US SELVES A WHOLE NEW FORM OF MUSIC
>WE DONE GONNA CALLS IT JIZZ
>"you can't call it that, you stupid coon"
>WE DONE GONNA CALLS IT JAZZ
>>74063518
no you don't you fucking faggot
>Yeah I love classical music! Mozart, Beethoven, the list goes on...
anyone who denies that some blacks excel at skills that require rhythm, like music and dance, are just as fucktarded as blacks who make a million excuses for their lack of academic achievements.
same thing for sports. yeah, whites excel at certain sports, but if you try to explain away the fact that every world-class 100 meter final in your lifetime was 100% blacks then you are again being a fucktard.
pic related: whites are awesome at certain things. blacks are as well.
Jazz is great but the best musician title wouldn't be going to any roody poo jazz musician
Niggers aren't even the best at jazz, japanese jazz is a million times better.
Best musician ever i probably give to bach or vivaldi
>>74063670
Black people in general, throughout history? No. Black-Americans from 1930-1980? Yeah, sure.
>>74064080
>say that to my face motherfucker not online and see what happens
>>74064054
Australia BTFO by a roach. OH SCHNAAAAP.
ha ha ha ha
>>74063911
Oh yeah, what's this then?
>>74061534
>the best musician in the world was a nigger
>this guy's a nigger
>>74064080
Still sounds better than your mobility scooter
>>74064290
>metal
>good
>>74064080
>pleb detected
Jazz is most complicated style of music behind classical. Blacks invented numerous styles of music.
black people used to play jazz, i dont think black people these days would be able to learn the theory
what happened? did jews subvert them too?
>>74064084
>WE DIFFERENT BUT WE ALL EQUAL! WE BUILD DA CIVILIZATION SHIT BUT THEY PLAY MONKEY BALL, RUN, AND PLAY OOGA BOOGA MUSIC! BOBO A GOOD BOY
The best musician in the world is an Armenian-American.
>>74064384
Fuck you
He's a master lyricist.
>>74064084
Is it okay to point out that the things that blacks are good at are pointless things to be good at?
>>74061534
>best musician
i don't recognise him, can't be that good
>>74064395
They realized it's easier to just become rappers.
>>74064413
>BUT WE ALL EQUAL!
where did I say that you mouth-breathing knuckle dragging sack of shit?
pic related is how I visualize you.
>>74064445
plenty of white people would love to be better at basketball, dancing, singing, and playing musical instruments. maybe not you, but plenty.
>>74061534
>miles davis
jazz sucks giant donkey balls as all amelodical degeneracy
>>74064290
kek
>metal is le master genre
kill yourself
>>74064203
Never heard anyone who beats Davis and Coltrane in jazz desu. Black excel at music.
>>74061534
There can be no best musician as musical taste is subjective. Fuck you OP
>>74064219
>>74064313
>>74064394
>>74064572
Classical music stagnated for hundreds of years
t. someone who has a degree in Classical music
>>74063518
Fucik is by far the best classical composer.
>>74063635
nice one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcwqCmEi9Jc
>>74064578
Ever heard of Moondog?
>>74064676
Serious question, what's your employment status like?
Are you working, is it related to your degree (if so is it teaching it)?
Jazz is one of the best styles of music, second to classical. Of course, thanks to slavery.
>not listening to anti-jew music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMw0EjLFPXw
>>74064578
I don't like metal, but if you think Martin Walkyier wasn't a great lyricist you're fucking retarded.
>>74061534
>the best musician in the world was a nigger
That's not John Mayer.
>>74064203
You couldn't be more wrong, asians are way too stiff and mechanical to play jazz well.
Also OP is wrong, Coltrane is the GOAT. Hate dindus all you want /pol/ but they're just the best at this kind of music and coincidentally the best white dudes(Lee Konitz, Kurt Rosenwinkel etc) are jews. Classical music is different obviously and I would consider Bach and Coltrane around the same tier.
Anyone else here hate jazz? I feel like 90% of the time it's just not enjoyable to listen to. I get that it's super complex and complicated, but hearing a piano and a trumpet noodle off each other for 10 minutes sounds like shit.
>>74064439
>lyrics
>music
>>74064676
>Classical music stagnated for hundreds of years
I know, as all culture, but postmodernism is not the answer and especially not atonal Godless music.
jazz and composers like Shonberg are the soundof postmodernism whil Bach represents a more sane period of history
>>74061534
>>the best musician in the world
>attempting to float this
You're not even trying.
>>74064928
It's the ultimate hipster genre
>all these non-musicians trying to say classical is better or more technically sophisticated than jazz
Classical music is what you learn to play before you can actually play Jazz. The music was developed from classically trained musicians taking influence from southern folk music and later the folk music of other countries such as France. By the way, most of the best and innovative Jazz musicians were American blacks but there were plenty of great players of other ethnicities.
Of course, /pol/ is full of violent rednecks and generic middle class kids who listen to the musical equivalent of shit and only say classical is the greatest form of music because that's what they were told when they were children.
>>74064928
It takes some time getting used to it and you still need to have some sort of "innate" harmonic understanding to enjoy it, I think. I didn't like it for about a year at first but for some reason kept listening. You need to listen to the right stuff as well, there's so much garbage out there on top of it being a matter of personal taste.
>>74065005
>It's the ultimate hipster genre
Chillwave and it's various sub-genres are the most hipster genres.
>>74064266
Woah, a picture of scott jolpin.
>>74065048
Alright, let me reiterate; it's the most hipster of the mainstream genres.
>>74061534
This is my conundrum, except with Charlie Parker.
>>74065038
>Of course, /pol/ is full of violent rednecks and generic middle class kids who listen to the musical equivalent of shit and only say classical is the greatest form of music because that's what they were told when they were children.
Hi /mu/.
>>74065038
I'll bite as you spent a little while typing that up and I'll feel bad if your time got wasted.
>>74065101
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jSimbyS_YlA
>>74065125
It's like four sentences that took a grand total of one minute to post, including finding the image.
>>74064394
>classical
>most complex
Baroque was more complex in texture and difficulty to play.
Romantic was harder to write and far more complex harmonically.
Classic was the retarded step-son of baroque and romantic, not to say it was bad.
>>74064928
I didn't like it until I became a musician. You appreciate it more when you can play an instrument. All I can say.
>>74064979
Whatever dude. Let's agree to disagree.
>>74065038
This. They say classical is the greatest form of music because it's the only white genre. Virtually every other modern genre was pioneered by blacks or some other non-white. This ignores the fact that classical music remained lthe same for 100's of years. You can look at a 17th Century Classical Piece and a 19th Century one and besides a few shining composers, the differences in overall structure when looking at how chords progress is minimal as well as instrument choices. Individualiity was discouraged by the masses and the music of the time represents that.
>>74065181
And I feel bad that you wasted a minute.
>>74064915
>Bach and Coltrane around the same tier
>>74064676
what Ive meant to say is that genres like jazz and atonal like Arnold Schoneberg really represent the postmodern/postnihilistic spirit.
I can appreacite it but I dont identify with it
>>74065220
Was kinda including those in "classical" too. I don't mean Wagner/Wugorsky shit.
>>74065220
>Baroque was more complex in texture and difficulty to play.
What do you mean by texture?
>Romantic was harder to write and far more complex harmonically.
100% absolutely wrong. Ofcourse the compositional value of classical music is higher since jazz is highly improvisational, but the harmonic progressions are much more advanced and harder to play/understand in the jazz of the 60's especially.
>Classic was the retarded step-son of baroque and romantic, not to say it was bad.
Somewhat true. Likely due to the "commercialization" of music going on at that time.
>>74061534
Jazz is played on western instruments, with western scales and western chords. There are certain rhythmic techniques which were popularised by black players, nonetheless they were studied and known by western composers for centuries; i.e. syncopation.
Also, the majority of nowadays black music is shitty rap about ghetto life and air jordans of whatever crap. None of those niggers know what a chord progression is anymore.
>>74065344
That's fine anon. :P I like playing jazz more than classical. Classical guitar is a lot of fun but improvising with a bunch of buddies at a club is way more peaceful.
>>74065038
>Classical music is what you learn to play before you can actually play Jazz
Because X before Y, Y is better.
>>74065345
Fair enough, romantic was degenerate towards the end of the 19th century as well, which lead to Jew shit like the rite of spring (written by a Jew)
>>74065387
Baroque music used melodies to accomply other melodies, sometimes up to 6 at once, that is what I ment by textual complexity.
As for your second point, I was comparing classical to romantic, not jazz and romantic.
Literally the first whiteys who met niggers instantly recognized them as stupid, childlike, playful and aggressive with a good sense of rhytm.
They were right.
>>74065450
This is true. But blacks invented every modern style of music except for a few like punk and metal
>rock(with blues) and thus most of it's subgenres
>jazz
>hip hop
>funk
>R&B
>orignal techno producers were blacks
>>74061534
>best musician
cite your sources
oh wait it's your feelings lmao
>>74061534
80+ fish, OP.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
sage
>>74065475
Some people have to use training wheels before they can actually ride their bike, croatia.
Classical music is extremely limited in scope. It uses very simplistic time with straight forward harmonic relationships as illustrated by the counterpoint school of thought. At its most complicated, Jazz pushes the boundaries of composition, technique and tonal modes, requiring a level of sophistication untouched by classical music.
Also, the discussion in this thread is silly in the fact that people are talking about Jazz as a single genre when in reality there are dozens of different types of Jazz music with varying approaches to composition and improvisation.
>>74065709
and yet blacks dominate every single one of them except for fusion which is the least interesting emotionally.
>>74065470
>I like playing jazz more than classical.
Like every experienced musician.
However, if I had to identify with smth, I would choose borderline tacky neoclassical music like Two Steps from Hell easily before jazz. Jazz (like an abstract paintings) brakes down the scales to much to give me a calm feeling
>>74065709
>At its most complicated, Jazz pushes the boundaries of composition, technique and tonal modes, requiring a level of sophistication untouched by classical music.
yes, so does metal. But many forms of metal are bordeline classical, would you agree?
>>74065821
I wouldn't say that as there are tons of great black fusion players (OP pic related). But Jazz fusion is pretty much proto-world music, so you get a lot more variation in the ethnicities of the musicians whereas earlier forms of Jazz were pretty much made of black and white Americans.
>>74061534
>the best musician in the world
>plays almost nothing but random notes
share some needles and AIDS yourself faggot
Well blacks are more rhythmically inclined per genetics, just like they are more likely to snatch a purse than a whitie.
They are more emotional creatures than whites which expresses itself in music, but also impulsive actions.
T. Freud
>>74065877
Which style of jazz do you mean? I can see you getting that with like Davis or Coltrane but what about Gran Green or Brubeck? What about Nat King Cole and the Rat Pack? Swing is the best era of pop music and everyone knows it.
>>74064782
My man. Best jazz composer who ever lived AND pride in his white heritage.
>>74065975
People who think jazz is a bunch of random notes deserve to be gassed honesty.
>>74065877
>yes, so does metal.
No. Not in the slightest.
>>74063675
>Still naming African Musicians.
>Hans please.
>>74065520
Ah guess we agree then. I would just call texture "structure" instead, but might be my mediocre english skills. Thought the other guy meant classical music as in the whole genre and not the period.
>>74061534
blacks make the best music. thats their only contribution to the world
>>74065949
Later fusion artist were mostly white dudes who could play fast.
Spaniards like Corea are based
>>74065998
>Davis or Coltrane
those two primarily, although I havent listen much to others than those two
>>74066083
but metal can be very complex and technically demanding
>>74061534
Music is the only artform blacks do well in, well they did well in, the recent output is fucking shit.
>>74065566
>orignal techno producers were blacks
Hahahaha, you fucking ignoranmous.
>>74066183
>but metal can be very complex and technically demanding
No. That stuff is trash, both in technique and taste.
>>74066183
It can be technically demanding but I find it pretty boring in comparison to most jazz. I saw Mamstein and a bunch of shredders play on a show. I fell asleep many times.
Thrash metal is pretty good but I personally find the more weird styles of metal to disconnected from emotion and more focused on weirdness for the sake of weirdness. Like when the fagggots voice sounds like he's getting castrated that turns me off.
>>74066268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QBXi7EtQiE
top kek m8
>>74061534
We don't hate them. We just wanna keep them away from our lands. It's like loving animals but not being willing to have them at home.
>>74063518
Mozart was black you fucking idiot
>>74066076
So it's a bunch of notes meticulously composed to sound random. Gotcha.
>>74066268
>No. That stuff is trash, both in technique and taste.
(smokes a ciggarete in a jazz club)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCymAH6r2Tc
>>74066301
>Thrash metal is pretty good but I personally find the more weird styles of metal to disconnected from emotion and more focused on weirdness for the sake of weirdness.
Trash and quazi-trash metal is best metal, Metallica is and always be good listening. What do you think about Vargs music? I actually find it quite intereting
>>74066319
Thanks for proving my point. That was not only terrible, but simplistic. And no, that's not even fast playing. I suggest you get some musical training and exposure.
>>74066375
It's Jesus who was black. Mozart was of Australian aboriginal origin, you fascist freak.
>>74061534
Jazz sucks mate
>muh black people are best at music meme
Even staunch racists seem to fall for this meme.
People will claim Miles Davis of Coltrane or some shit as the best music ever.
What has Coltrane ever done that can be considered a masterwork in music? Ray Charles is far superior to him as far as nig musicians go.
It's always some jazz faggot that people jerk off to as "the best music". Yoko Kanno and the Seatbelts did better jazz than Coltrane.
Fuck off with your meme bullshit.
>jazz better than Shpongle
In KEK's name we lol.
>>74061534
I like to think of niggers as black punks.
That man was not a nigger.
>>74064676
>t. someone who has a degree in Classical music
Worst kind of people.
Lel, ever heard music made by someone with some form of formal musical education? It suck balls to Mars an back.
>>74066611
Fuck sorry dude I get the two mixed up sometimes. Are we still cool?
Also, Warren G. Harding was black
>>74063966
10/10
>>74066478
>jazz
>not simplistic
>faster=better
>I suggest you get some musical training and exposure.
i suggest the same
>>74065566
Ok, but then
>trance
>country
>avantgarde genres
all white.
And rock, jazz, r&b, funk etc. all belong to the same genealogy of genres stemming from blues, so one could argue that these are offshoots of the same African-American meta-genre, just as there are hundreds of different styles of latin music (flamenco, salsa, mambo etc.). Techno was a genuine invention in Detroit, but there was an independent parallel European wave of electronic musicians like Kraftwerk at the time, so it boils down to the Detroit genre hitting mainstream first. Gershon Kingsley's Popcorn dates back to 1969!
>>74064593
Music taste might be subjective, but music itself is more objective than most people think. Therefore there can be a best musician, just as there can be a best mathematician.
>>74063966
jesus christ
I'm trying to eat here boomerang man
>>74061570
Nope by Jews
>>74065821
>what is polish jazz
>>74061534
>rapist
>0 results
OP is reddit.
>>74066885
Not really, that would musical theory and critical reasoning to be ground in empiricism. The only objective method to rank taste would be to look at behavior, not to use reasoning.
>>74066059
Moondog ftw. Somwhat obscure though.
>>74061534
>the best musician in the world was a nigger
>checks flag
>checked
only one response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqIsc8ooXug
![michael-jackson-320-480[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UBR271w.jpg "michael-jackson-320-480[1].jpg")
>>74061534
>Michael Jackson
>Black
>>74061534
Fuck Jazz
Lets here some JIZZ!
>not being part of a galaxy spanning musical movement
why even play bro?
>>74066885
How would you rank the best mathematician in topology against the best in graph theory?
>>74067268
>fuck jazz
Agreed, I only listen to Westly Willis
Wesley Willis - My Mother Smokes Crack Rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPftjJlqDdQ
Retard Bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOcuEbUPyGU
Suck A Camel's Poody Hole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9cLIKMOMFw
etc
>>74067268
Here's your jizz m8
Jazz as a form of "upper class" music was a Jewish meme popularized by hollywood
>>74064054
Roach BTFO
>>74063675
Even forgetting Chopin
>>74061534
Metal.
/thread
![killswitch-engage-part-ways-with-vocalist-howard-jones-1537[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J7Mt7uZ.jpg "killswitch-engage-part-ways-with-vocalist-howard-jones-1537[1].jpg")
>>74067515
This
>>74067450
No one actually listens to Jazz regularly because it's shit
Everyone who say they do is only saying that because of imaginary group conformity
>>74067622
Get fucked, scrub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__OSyznVDOY
>>74067711
where's your argument famalam?
>>74066649
Slight exception that maybe Hendrix. But he was mixed. Also OP faggotedly worded it as musician. So yeah Hendrix.
>>74067030
I didn't even understand the first sentence.
>The only objective method to rank taste would be to look at behavior, not to use reasoning.
We're not ranking taste here (subjective thing; someone might say, i thing turd tastes good; that's completely subjective), but music. And music is nothing but a series of sound waves put together in some harmonic way which can be written down, broken down and analysed. Just like a mathematical equation.
>>74067335
I don't know the difference but if there is one you would rank them separately.
>>74067620
Thats Butt Rock
>>74067743
Ain't no argument on either side.
>>74067622
/thread
>>74063587
A handful can make music or put a ball through a hoop. They aren't worth throwing our civilization away over.
>>74067711
>listening to four minutes of fart noises
>>74067711
Worthless noise for subhumans by subhumans
>>74067622
>no one listens to jazz regularly
>>74067757
Wanna see some impotent rage? Watch this-
STP's Plush is better blues than BB King ever made.
Sit back and watch the replies.
>>74064676
>degree in Classical music
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
On a side note, I like both Jazz and Classical.
>>74067622
>milo said it! It must be true!
>>74067965
I feel so much depends on the weather.
>>74061534
/pol/ is not racist.
Now fuck off.
>>74067757
>Hendrix
>rip off old blues standards
>play it electric, while on speed and drunk
>use distortion to cover up your sloppy playing
>never play outside of the minor pentatonic or straight 4/4
>sing badly
>good
Biggest meme that ever played a guitar
>>74061534
okay, i hate to do this to my own brethren, but FUCK OFF BACK TO THE BACKWATER ABO VILLAGE YOU WERE BORN IN.
its cool that you like music written by jews, but clearly you are not a person of /pol/. you have not yet learned to swallow the red pill on music, race, and politics.
>>74061534
Aeilfric is no nigger.
https://youtu.be/Yrx0DKvSHHU
>>74068143
lol
>>74066268
>metal can't be very complex or technically demanding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1X0Bejwnko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5SWc_k_Hmk
>>74067759
meant to say: would require music theory and critical reasoning to be grounded in empiricism.
How are you ranking musicians? Are you going to look at how well musicians sound waves correspond to notes? Who has the most complex music? All of these metric by themselves are meaningless, using a set of metric and weighing them we can start ranking. Though until we have AI, this is a subjective process.
>>74067892
Congrats, you're one of the people that have been fooled into thinking it's good. Jazz is the equivalent to loud and shitty dubstep. Literally no one would listen to it if it wasn't promoted so heavily. Admit you don't listen to it regularly.
>>74068050
Group conformity is a very real thing.
>>74068385
If you listened to a couple of musicians within the same genre, you would find that ranking musicians isn't even hard. It becomes a bit (well maybe a bit more than just a bit) harder if you include other genres. But it's not impossible.
>>74068431
>If you like what I don't like you're just brainwashed!
Fuck that. This thread is now a YGYL thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OiBX07ImA0
>>74063739
see jazz
>>74061534
Bach is the greatest musician to ever live.
>>74064048
Sure I'll take that bait.
>>74065709
Anyone here listen to bossa nova?
>>74061534
Elvis was black?
>>74061534
Why is Ozzy Osbourne so dark and what's that thing in his mouth? That's a funny looking bat.
Who says I hate niggers? I love those little chimps.
outside of jazz, soul and blues niggers really aren't good at music
and that is a fact
it's also a fact that - no matter how great their endeavours in these fields have been, and I personally having adoration for jazz and blues have to remind you
The Mathew Passion was written by a White man. Nuff said.
>>74061534
miles davis is just some nigger, you don't seriously think he's the greatest musician of all time do you?
>>74064445
Everything is pointless
>>74071004
This. In the end, we all become dust.
>>74071004
Your mum didn't think I was pointless last night m8
People un-ironically listen to jazz? That's fucking crazy, man. I can't stand hearing that discordant , oboe-sounding bullshit
>>74064676
>Classical music stagnated for hundreds of years
There hasn't even been a genre of composition that lasted for more than one century since Gregorian Chant between Charlemagne and the Roman era.
Meanwhile jazz literally recycles endlessly the very same few rhythm gimmicks. Olivier Messiaen alone between the 1930-1990 had probably as much range as the entire jazz genre.
