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He'll be fine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/7147862/Head-transplant-ops-will-work-say-experts-but-the-side-effects-could-be-the-worst-form-of-insanity-ever-experienced-by-a-human.html
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>russian ethics
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He tried to warn you.
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>thesun.co.uk

gtfo with these shitty sensational tabloids
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>>73982394
Looking forward to this.

>neets every are picking out new bodies..
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>>73982394
>the sun
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ewe
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>>73982394
This is really old. RT reported on this last year.
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>>73982394
>http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/7147862/Head-transplant-ops-will-work-say-experts-but-the-side-effects-could-be-the-worst-form-of-insanity-ever-experienced-by-a-human.html

If he's volunteering to do so, what's there to lose? Sure, he may die and go crazy, but regardless if it works or not they can study the body/head and make advancements in this area of science.

If I was confined to a wheelchair all of my life, I would kill myself. But looking in the long run, if this surgery turned out to be a success, yay, the dude can walk. If it turned out to be a failure, study the dead body to further advance science.
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Science will do what science wants, at least it's going through the appropriate legal channels.
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>>73982394
i really wish we could have another war nazi germany style
push fucking science with no regard for human life
the potential good that could be done with the suffering of just a few
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>>73984271
Everyone wants this. As long as it's not them being experimented on. So there you go.
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>>73984328
Of course we would experiment on shitskins, real humans would have nothing to worry about.
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>>73984502
If you don't experiment on whites, how will we know our bodies will have the same reaction?
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>>73984328
I'd willingly give my self for horrible science it the likely hood something good would come if was high enough. Also, that they'd put a plaque on my grave saying I had a huge penis.
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>head transplant

that's pretty fucking metal.
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>>73984271
>>73984328

Just wait for the upcoming Europeam Civil War, you'll have loads of shitskins and lefties to experiment on.
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>>73982394
Oh shit this is real? I honestly thought it was promotion for The Phantom Pain.
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>>73984603
Bullshit. If that was true you'd volunteer right now. Don't lie to me and yourself. You don't want to be experimented on, no matter what the gain for the human race would be.
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>>73982394
oh that's the only possible side effect? the worst form of insanity every experienced by a human?

sure sign me up
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>>73984779
who's to say I haven't
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Did you guys see that article about the secret world scientist meeting where they discussed making synethic human genes?

We're all fucked.
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>>73982394
>After surgery, Valery will be kept in a medically-induced coma for three to four weeks while doctors stimulate his spinal cord nerves to reconnect and start functioning.
>stimulate his spinal cord nerves to reconnect and start functioning.

Where is the Nobel prize for medicine.
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So if this goes forward, how much will you have to pay to get a ripped body and a big dick?
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>>73984867
You think the clowns who talk to the SUN know what they're talking about? Jesus.
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>>73982394
after the surgery and recuperation he should move to Holland.
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>>73982394
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>>73982394

Shit actually works.

>>73982667

Tis not bs. This is happening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3029376/Russian-volunteer-head-transplant-operation-Valery-Spiridonov-says-no-choice-undergo-7-5million-procedure-controversial-Italian-surgeon-Dr-Sergio-Canavero.html
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This fucking insanity worse than death bullshit.
If it comes to that they can just follow the clause that says to stop life support and he dies.
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>>73985141
>the sun is shit
>post dailymail
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I was just having nightmares thinking about this shit in bed last night.
But it's something that should be done. This is how we advance in science and medicine. Plus, whether it works or not, the research gained from this could help save other people's lives.
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>>73984966
No post it plz
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>>73982394
>Cooling it to 12 degrees Celsius.
That's not how you spell warming.
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>>73984603
I recommend you read about the unit 731, it will definitely change your mind about being science's guinea pig.
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>>73982394

If he wants to do it, why not let him try if the science looks good enough that there's a chance? It's not against his will.

I honestly don't consider this degeneracy.
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>>73982394
Finally I can be 6'4 wish me luck brudders
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That's one way to get a head in life.
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>>73982394

If this eventually means a near flawless, no suicidal thought transition is possible with unlimited options for face/body type via genetic engineering and stem cell fuckery, would /pol/ finally become the little girl?
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>>73985337

I shoulda seen that one coming.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292306.php
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>>73982394
Nice start. Transplanting heads of the most part of the russian population seems like the only way to fix this country.
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>>73982394
Just so you guys know, the majority of applicants for this procedure were men who wanted to be transplanted onto a woman's body.

But it's totally not mental illness guys.
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You've been in a coma for quite some time now.
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>>73983240
I agree with the leaf
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>>73985760
There's no way my fucking brain is going to fit, Jethuth Kwythe how horrifying. Why oh why couldn't I have been a manlet?

But yes, if I had the chance to start over as a child with my current memories and personality intact, a new lifespan, etc. I'd love to do so.
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>>73986187
...holy shit
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So where does the source body come from?
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>>73984617
What was the purpose of this again?
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>>73982394

>tfw not even head transplants can fix my ugly fucking face
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I've done some work with my university's neurology & neuroscience department, I don't buy that he'll go insane. The brain is highly plastic and incredibly adaptive. In the blind it can shunt somatic or audio processing into the visual cortex almost seamlessly. It can be retrained to identify the incredibly crude and shitty nervous impulses provided by cochlear implants as coherent sounds. It might take a serious rehab effort, and he might not end up with complete functionality, but if he doesn't die there's a decent chance it'll work.
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>>73984271
PHRENOLOGY THREAD

Post info about the idea that physical traits are directly linked to behavior.

Animal heraldry begot human heraldry in the empires of old. Some people have culturally appropriated the wisdom learned from a millenia of these human experiments.

In genetics there are two catagories of data, genotype (genetic code) and phenotype (physical traits exhibited). Rules of thumb about hybrid vigor and offspring percentages were similar for all mammals... including humans.

Inbreeding was deemed negative after extensive testing, yet is still practiced by several inbred supremacist ethnic cults.

When the phenotype of an organism is observed and its appearance is related to its behavior, this is called phrenology (or facio-cranial sciences if you want to recatagorize and over catagorize a topic so as to stigmatize it into a small specialist role, but along with neurosciece, phrenology will investigate the concept of mental behavioral links compared to brain structure).

Many call phrenology psuedo science but phrenology is being resurrected publically, now. Israel already uses phrenology in both negative and positive societal/cultural roles.

Israel sterilizes overbreeding Ethiopean semites practicing judaism and deports Filipino maids who become pregnant in their country with half breeds. Israeli officials have commented these efforts were to prevent a "watering down of the blood" by undesirable ethnicities... which seems more like an ethnocracy than a democracy or religious state.

Some trait linked roles are long standing like the shuning of the red headed "bastard jews", which has now spread from the british kikes to a normalized set of gentile hating jokes, cross culturally and worldwide.

Any rabbi will tell you the goal of judaism is worldwide cultural conversion, and what a culture it is, you should read up on what you will be fully subsumed by so you stop being such a goy (tribe/cow) shiksa (insect).
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>>73986356
>tfw perfect face but balding and weird body
We're on /pol/, m8, there is a reason we're so frustrated and full of hate towards others.
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>>73983240

Very likely the surgery will be a failure.

There are so many variables that the subject will probably die on the operating table. The surgery probably won't happen either because of this.
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>>73986356
Have a face transplant as well then.
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>>73986326

Mengele got bored.
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>>73986564
Says you, getting /pol/arized was a way to free me of being taught that whites are bad mmmkay
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>>73982394
>But surgeons believe the opinion-dividing procedure could cause Valery to go insane or die.

Well, his current life is worse than death so what's the problem?
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>>73982394
That guy in the shirt looks like a legit mad villain.
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>>73982394
I just hope we'll get chapter 3 after that.
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>>73986280
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>73986881
Lots of people say their current life is worse than death but i assume they have not tried both yet to make that full comparison.
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>>73982394
Once again Karl Pilkington proven right about everything, Gervais knows nothing.
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>>73982394
Holy fuck

I hope they document this propwrly and don't jew us out of the info USSR style.
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>>73986954
Kojima stole his likeness and put him in their game
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This doctor is a quack.
He has been a quack and will remain a quack.
He can do all the crazy animal experiments he wants, yet has he made progress in animal head transplants? No. Kind of expected if you ever want to see human head transplants.
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>>73986187
>>73986280
Don't you remember before release of MGS5 when this guy was theorised to be in the game? The transplant theory was YUGE.
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>>73982394
weird, that
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>>73982758

>implying neets won't be selling their bodies and living in glass jars in their mums basement.
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>there are a lot worse things than death
??? There is nothing bad in death ether
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you think he browses 4chan?
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could they give him a womans body?
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>>73988026
My thoughts exactly. He seems overly confident. The only experiment was done on a monkey and it died 8 days later.

But if I were the poor guy bound to a wheelchair for my entire life, I would try anything before killing myself. Hope it goes well though.
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>>73982394
This is absolute bullshit im a medical student and it is IMPOSSIBLE to reconect the spinal cord and especialy not if the body comes from someone else, it is however possible to induce nerve growth but the connections will be completly messed up, the other reconstructions are in theory possible though
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Why not just put it on a robot body?
or >>73990439
Also brain attached to the internet when?
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>>73990934
>im a medical student
So you know it all.

I swear med students are the most pompous tards I've met.
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>>73991157
yeah after 5 years of study I know somethings and this is not possible.
Why do you think som many people end up in rollchairs after the slightest traume to the spinal cord if it was so easy?
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I really hate this shit. How will we ever progress becoming more advanced humans if we dont find out with experimenting on other humans? We could have been decades ahead in the medical field, bio engineering, and countless others if faggots did not bitch and moan about "muh morals"

This could prove much more beneficial to humanity in the long run but no, we are stuck in the fucking middle ages tinkering with progressively dated techniques.
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Jesus
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>>73991505
there is some progress in rats or something
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>>73990934
>This is absolute bullshit im a medical student and it is IMPOSSIBLE

Well dumbfuck, there apparently are at least 150 surgeons, doctors and nurses who'd be willing to take a bet on that.
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>>73986032

This guy gets it
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>>73991773
Yeah sure and more than 99% who call them idiots and completly nuts
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>>73991157
Yup. How dare they try & pass remarks to influence our psychotic thinking? They're Doctors, not psychiatrists afterall. Tards, all of 'em.
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>>73991956
I wonder if the day ever arrives when you realize you are exactly like the stuck up farts who yelled about Einstein's theory not being possible because muh Newton. There are probably countless of other examples of people rejecting progress because of muh study literature.
Chance is this realization will never come to you because your probably some algerian evolutionary dead end.
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>>73992012
What are you trying to say here anglo?
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>>73982394
>The potentially ground-breaking treatment was performed on a monkey in 1970. The animal only lived for eight days after the body rejected the new head, leaving the monkey unable to breath and move.
>unable to breath
>breath

I'm not normally a grammar nazi but that shit pisses me off
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>>73984271
Remind me, what great medicinal breakthroughs did Nazi Germany provide humanity?
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>>73991505
>Why do you think som many people end up in rollchairs after the slightest traume to the spinal cord

Because they weren't treated with macrophage therapies to suppress myelin levels quickly enough. In a controlled environment, such as the one implied by this procedure, it's entirely possible to promote axon regrowth.
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>>73982394
Wait.. Didn't the monkey that got an ewxperimental head transplant die after they could not reconnect the brain properly with the center nerve system?
How was this insane thing allowed?
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>>73992221
I hope that one day they will be able to do brain transplants cause sure as hell you need one kaas kop
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>>73992330
How to remove cancer from society. Unfortunately the patient died after only a few years.
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>>73992576
I'll take your attempt at deflection through "humour" as confirmation of my suspicions. Thanks, stormweenie.
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>you were born in a time where you can be free of this manlet body

You're all fucked. I'm going to kidnap some Hafthor Bjornson looking motherfucker and get this Russian doctor to graft my melon on.

I will be a LIVING GOD.
Maybe while he's at it, he can stitch on Ron Jeremy's cock... Hell throw John Holmes on there too. Now to decide, do I want side by side or over under?
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>>73992330
Gassing is efficient but it needs to be supported by healthy transport infrastructure.
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>>73992330

The discovery that human skin can be used in a variety of home decor applications. And masturbation machines.
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>>73992556
Wew lad, did I touch a nerve there? Filthy regressive.
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>>73991505
There was a Polish guy I read about who was stabbed in the spine and paralysed. The cut was very clean and stem cells (i think) were used to heal the wound. He's now able to walk again anyway.

I imagine it must be slightly more complicated the further up the spine you go, however.

Seems it's this guy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29645760
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>>73992356
Yes indeed thats what i stated it is possible to promote axone regrowth, but can you imagagine how many axons there are in your spinal cord?
You can retablish connection of a nerve but it has to be guided and be a terminal section.
Not to mention that the body is from someone else and there are anatomical differencies and as slight a thy are you are guaranteed to end up with a major fuck up.
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>>73990542

Not true, the first experiment was a dog head placed onto the body of another dog, which still had its original head. The dog survived a while and thrived, but was eventually put down.

Russia has been at this for awhile.
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>>73990934
The man wants it, plus, it will benefit to science. Sure, this surgery is likely to fail, but after hundreds of failures, doctors will, perhaps, accumulate enough knowledge to make these opperations correctly.
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>>73992774
Yes there are even some cases where patients are able to walk again after paralysis without any treatment but they are exceptional.
One point to notice in your link is that his spinal cord was not entirely severed which can serve as a guide to restablish connections. Its certainly very interesting and promising.
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>>73992696

You can already have your thigh bones and shins broken and stretched, slowly over months while they heal.

You have no excuse for being a manlet any longer. You're just poor.
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>>73982394
>head transplant
Shouldn't the surgery be called body transplant?
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>>73993254
If and only if the patient is able to give his consentement , knows all the risks involved and he has no psychiatric problems or mental disorders
then I would say go ahead even if it is doomed from the start
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>>73987155
Gervais is a cunt.
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>>73984692
God I miss the /mgg/ ruse discussions in the months leading up to it.

>tfw we'll never land in Normandy with The Boss and the Cobra Unit
RIP Fox Engine
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>>73986187
really original
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>>73993408
But won't he end up like this?
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>>73988026
>He's a quack
>He's only in it to make money
>Has specifically stated he's turned down numerous appeals from trannies because medicine and science should be used to help people
>Those who genuinely need it should be top of the list
>Hence his "subject"

Not all surgeons are Jewish and have made a completely mockery of the profession you know.
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>>73982394
wait a second diddnt Raiden from MGS get his head removed and grafted onto a cyborg clone body? did Kojima predict head transplants?
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>>73990934
i respect docs, but I don't know a single Doctor who knows a thing he was not taught at school. Leave scientific advance to people who are more than glorified plumbers for human bodies.
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>>73984894
You taking pills and doing experimental sleep studies are very different than you actually having to deal with excruciating pain or insanity for longer than 5 minutes, i actually hope you try it
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>>73982394
>but-the-side-effects-could-be-the-worst-form-of-insanity-ever-experienced-by-a-human

FUND IT
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>>73994962
The idea has been around for a lot longer than Kojima has.
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>>73986564
I'm on pol cause i love it and you guys, i turned out not too bad. Go get a gym pass and fucking shave yourselves
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>>73987123
>suffering
>vs. not

I bet you thought that post was witty.
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>>73982572
that doctor behind it all is italian
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>>73984271
>Nazi germany pushing science druing the war

Gebels couldnt even tell the diference between scurvy and cholera, how would that change anything?
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>>73982394
It's a Russian

so I'm sure he can cope with it
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>>73989200
Kek'd...checked
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>>73982394
chapter 3 finally confirmed
all those months waiting
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>>73992330
I think they did some transplantation things, trying to succesfully transplant muscles, bones and nerves.
They fucked people's heads to see what the effect was and how to fix it.
I remember some hypothermia experiments they did with twins, to determine at what temperature people die.
They tested vaccines for malaria, tuberculosis, and some other diseases I can't be arsed to look up.
And there was tests involving blood coagulation, the results of which led to the development of coagulatory compounds that are vital in first-aid and surgery.

None of that shit was ethical though.
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There's someone walking around right now unaware of the fact that in one year they're going to die, have their head cut off and replaced
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>>73986408
Yeah but they're not just giving or receiving a ear or eyes. He'll have an entirely different hormone profile. It's more accurate to say he's almost receiving a partial brain transplant if you include this, and an entirely new, instinctive, nervous system.
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>>73982394
Why are they so upset?
This guy has a condition that is only going to get worse and will kill him soon enough
He literally has nothign to lose and everything to gain
Plus, he's helping science
What's the down side?
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>>73996567
in one and half years, someone is going to be jacking off with their dick and hands
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>>73996564
>I think

Thanks for playing, Aquafresh.
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>>73996567
I'd imagine women in europe and america start getting killed by transexuals to transplant their heads on the womens body so they become a "real" female
if head transplants start becoming a thing im dropping from society and going to live in the woods like an animal with the animals
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>>73982394
Shit
> Did a disabled guy invite a good natured neighbor over then surgically remove his own head and put it onto his neighbors body and is now taunting him?
That is fucked up, thats not even a prank bro.
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>>73988593
And the theory become so heavily reported on and widespread that the dude threatened to sue Konami for using his likeness in the game.
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>>73982394

"Arthur Caplan, director of medical ethics at New York University’s Langone Medical Centre described Dr Canavero as "nuts".

He believes that the bodies of head transplant patients "would end up being overwhelmed with different pathways and chemistry than they are used to and they’d go crazy”.

But Dr Canavero hit back at the criticism saying Valery will not only live with his new body, but will be able to walk within a year of the operation. "

Have you seen his TED talk? this guy seems pretty optimistic.
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>>73997134
that seems worryingly probable
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>>73997134
Transgender people are actually mentally ill enough to do that and jews would fund them to provide us with femine looking men so we can fuck each other and not make any white children
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>>73997035
>hurr hurr stopped reading
I realise we're dealing with an intellectual heavy-weight here.
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If I was the doc I would put his head on some other guy in a wheelchair
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>>73996567
What a time to be alive.
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>>73983240
>if this surgery turned out to be a success, yay, the dude can walk

spotted the retard,
best case scenario is him regaining conciousness and dying w/o much pain within some minutes/hours

we are lightyears away from even remotely being capable of popping off someones head and attaching it to a somewhat functioning body.
kudos to frankenstein for trying thought
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>>73982394
>The potentially ground-breaking treatment was performed on a monkey in 1970.
>The animal only lived for eight days after the body rejected the new head, leaving the monkey unable to breath and move.

Wait, has anybody actually tried this RECENTLY? Or is this a poorly researched story?
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>>73996567
sounds like that person could use a [spoiler]heads up[/spoiler]
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>>73982394
Hears the probable outcome as predicted by robocop 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0V-yaOGrYw

Only a constant supply of good 'nuke' and a psycho head will make this work
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>>73998950
>Hears
here is *fuck
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>>73997458
Not a very smart comment, considering the intact female body would still contain eggs and be able to reproduce.
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>>73997134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBDanaDonGs
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>>73994962
>Diddnt Raiden from MGS get his head removed and grafted onto a cyborg clone body?

Didn't look like it
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