http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcDxNub2QHo
POL is seemingly destroyed in a few seconds
POL is not living in reality
POL is a temporary phenomenon that will diminish within higher states of immigration cultural evolution.
>>73975966
Counter-argument: It's not.
>>73975966
Friedman said you couldn't have a welfare state with open borders.
Europe and America have proved this.
>POL
>this POL chap is one person
They're paying you too much.
>>73976085
this desu
Globalism and socialism may well be possible
but not both at the same time
>>73976085
Why would anyone want universal welfare?
The ideal globalized nation is a nation composed predominately of illegals... right?
>>73976157
I have yet to see a productive argument on pol, that in favor of illegal immigration... and also by agreeing with Milton Friedman here.
>>73975966
>Friedman
Illegal immigration is literally not good in any way what so ever.
>Friedman
>>73975966
>there are still lolbertarians in this board
>>73976085
Yep. No welfare state, no welfare & benefits for third world migrants to leech off of. The only migrants who'd really come here would either want to work or move on to Canada or some shit for gibsmedat. /pol/ and le free market jew are in agreement
>>73975966
>libertarian weenies still exist
In a lolbertarian utopia, what stops me from using hospitals and orphan houses as artillery target practice?
>>73975966
>Milton Friedman
>Rich jewish economist promoting illegal immigration
>>73975966
That's John Howard
>>73978552
Well, if your morals are not a good enough deterrent, I would expect city funded police AS WELL AS armed citizens.
>>73978786
Cities are a type of collective
Friedman is a loony right winger though, so that means everything he says is wrong.
Illegal immigration also only helps if they don't receive the benefits of the welfare state.
>>73975966
Literally, not an argument.
>it's good for you goy!
counter argument: prove it
>>73978786
>Le just rely on your morals
>>73975966
Maximizing economic potential is one of many goals for a nation and the idea that it should be the sole deciding factor for policy is the kind of thing I'd expect from someone who's either autistic or incredibly greedy.
>>73976727
>Immigrants already produce enough value just by coming here. Illegals don't owe us anything, we owe the illegals because they have already paid us with labor.
>We should therefore be more accommodating to migrant culture and not our own. Simply because they went out of their way to work for us. WE OWE THEM BIG TIME FOR THAT.
>Therefore foreign identity and culture is also worth more than the average US citizen. This is why multiculturalism is so great, as long as the migrant's culture and identity remains intact, it's worth something to the growing economy. The symbiotic relationship is already paid for, and we should adopt the new population's way of living as tribute to their great contribution to our society.
The most ideal concept of today's nation-state is a nation that is entirely made of illegal immigration. A nation-state of this sort would be the most accurate and moral manifestation of a libertarian society. No one is socially obliged to provide anyone else, because since everyone is illegal, then there is no possible way for socialism to exist in any form.
>>73975966
> Lolbertarian
>>73975966
>Friedman
>>73978786
What if my privately-funded personal mercenary force is stronger than the one by the collectivist cucks?
On today's episode of: A Jewish man has no concept of the inherent value of nation, culture and race.
>>73979673
Then I wish you a long and prosperous reign over your fiefdom.
At least illegal immigrants will eventually go home (or get deported) and can be used as cheap labor
>>73978552
Because it's illegal.
>>73978195
Anything that bothers statists that isn't sin is great.
>Monetarism
Illegals get some forms of welfare now though.
Friedman was wrong.
>>73980326
He wasn't wrong, giving illegals welfare is.
>>73980423
What are you gonna do, let them starve in the streets like you're India?
>>73980566
Why would they starve in the street?
>>73980203
Illegal immigration is illegal. Jesus said some people weren't meant to come to some places
>>73980638
Because they have no money
>>73975966
Friedman is a keynesian monitorist. Of course he likes raping wealth from the people. It's what he does.
>>73980727
How are they stealing all of our jobs but not making any money?
>yes, bring in more dumb goyim slaves to bring down the wages
>ruin your society with multiculturalism and crime
>don't giver them welfare so they can live in slums and resent the middle class so we can divide and conquer society
what an excellent idea, Mr. Friedman
>>73980645
>Jesus said some people weren't meant to come to some places
Good luck instantiating that.
Something being illegal sinful does not make. It could be illegal for you to breathe; it wouldn't then be sinful to breathe.
>>73980782
Because otherwise people would have nothing to bitch about. And that fact doesn't rub people well.
>>73980326
Friedman said that free immigration isn't sustainable if you have a welfare state.
Terrorism didn't exist in 1914 it's a rather new concept.
>>73976085
/thread.
Good bye lefties, it's been fun, we won.
also here's the full video because OP is a fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52TlPCVDio
This is why liberalism and nationalist are nowadays incompatible
>>73975966
Open borders only works in a completely free society.
I.e. a society with no welfare, no affirmative action, no section 8 housing, no anti-discrimination bullshit. Complete freedom of association. If a white town doesn't want to sell land or do business with anyone they consider outsiders then that's their right. I'd be interested to see if immigration would still be a problem, even with open borders, in such a free society.
>>73975966
I can't believe you right wing retards worship this jew cocksucker.
>>73981263
And if a white town wants immigration?
>>73981406
then they can go ahead and destroy themselves with third world immigrants;
so long as people have the option to opt out, the people that do want in on the whole thing can do whatever they want
right now there is no opt out
>>73975966
saying that immigration is not feasible with a welfare state?
Isn't this common sense?
>>73975966
Globalist capitalist elite want cheap immigrant workers to exploit? While presenting a false discredited idea of homo economicus, that doesn't exist in the real world? And not giving a damn about the nation, only their bloated wallets? I'm shocked, absolutely shocked I tell you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NqG2lAojNQ
>>73975966
Why did you cut off the rest? You know, the part where he actually explains his reasoning?
>>73981956
>Globalist capitalist elite want cheap immigrant workers to exploit
>insecure stormweenie mouthbreathers obsessed with le jew meme
Sad and pathetic, desu
You people are more concerned with destruction, death, and revenge than with building a nation we can call home.
>>73981990
I didn't need a reason to extend the clip beyond the ADD threshold of the common weeb/neet.
I agree with Friedman... and he DESTROYED /pol/.
A nation-state of illegal immigration is the perfect manifestation of a libertarian society.
If everyone is illegal in the nation, then there is no possible way for socialism to exist in any form.
>>73978786
Then police will become rulers, sort of feudal lords.
>>73980959
There were Commie terrorist before that
>>73979673
Ok, El Chapo, easy there!
>>73981956
Why is this wrong? It's evolution. No culture or set of genes will last forever.
>>73983422
>something bad is going to happen at some point in the future
>so we shouldn't even bother trying to preserve it as long as possible
defeatist please leave
>>73983501
It's not defeatism, when siding with natural evolution.
>>73983422
Just because evolution is an inevitable, ongoing process does not mean we should willfully blend ourselves into other, sometimes less savory types of people.
What you're advocating isn't even to throw our hands up in the face of the inevitable, but rather purposefully destroy countless years of human evolution.
>>73983501
This.
>>73983807
Our entire human evolution has been a struggle to overcome natural evolution. Lloyd pls. Listen to this anon:
>>73984598
>>73975966
He says you have to end welfare first if you want "free immigration"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eyJIbSgdSE
>>73984877
The illegal immigrants from Mexico don't go to NYC because they get welfare. They go because they know they'll be able to find jobs as maids and waiters.
>>73975966
he says if its illegal "they wont get benefits..."
We know that's not true. They suck funds from healthcare and other services by the billions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfU9Fqah-f4
>>73984990
Incorrect. The common issue, is the "under the table" worker gets services and benefits from the government AND works as a maid or waiter.
Get it? They're law breakers. They work shitty jobs and dont declare, and then collect money and bankrupt hospitals with emergency care for the common cold because they dont understand preventative medicine.
Grow up.
Friedman's views regarding economy are based.
>>73975966
It's a purely economic argument?
Idiots.
>>73975966
completely taken out of context
jesus fucking christ guys
>>73978786
>lolbertarian utopia
>city-funded police
so basically a government police force, but limited to an arbitrarily small geological area?
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