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Do you actually believe you'll be able to afford a house one day?
>>73968207
I have 25k saved up so I'm pretty sure I could purchase one right now. But I'm waiting until I have more of a safety net
>>73968395
What does 25k buy today? A house in Detroit maybe.
>>73968457
I think he means he can afford the deposit.
Melbourne here.
No, I don't. Instead I plan to invest in shares which although take more mental effort are at least more accessible and after a doing so much work on my parents property, so much less physical effort.
Shares are a clusterfuck of information sorting and making assumptions and acceptable risk. I'm literally waiting for a power plant to be built to sell 200$ of gas shares, literally the last of my inheritance from grandfather.
>>73968207
Yes once I join the Royal Marines and save the deposit. Plan to eventually move to US.
Of course not, capitalism is collapsing around us
>>73968902
what happened in 1979?
>>73968207
Maybe down south but never up here in the north
I'm in Utah.
I just want a 2 or 3 bedroom house in a remote area.
I think this is achievable within the next 5 years.
>>73968207
I bought my first house at 21 on just above minimum wage + shift bonus + overtime
So yes if you put the work in.
>>73968457
its called a down payment you fucking retard.
>>73969246
Thanks for the motivation boost, 23 here and £100 to my name.
>>73969204
dont ever buy a house with skylights anon. you are guaranteed to have roof leaks
>>73968207
I own 7 roachnests here, I just hope erdogan will get ousted soon so that his islamic goons might not take my property due to me being quffar in a future possible islamic revolution.
Renting 6 of them gives me around 20.000$. Decent enough to live my days as a NEET.
Not in any major city.
Nah. I don't really want a whole house. I'm autistic on a level that interfered with my ability to hold a job and maintain social interaction on a face to face level. No one really understood autism 15 years ago the last time I left my apartment. I'm happy where I live, the landlord understands, lets me pay (roughly) when I want, takes my laundry for me and I slip him an extra 50 every month.
A house is really an overrated cash sink anyway. Fixing your own shit, dealing with problems that previous owners left you, it's like buying a used car, it's just not worth it a huge majority of the time because you're gonna end up needing to replace half the fucking house.
building your own house is nearly impossible nowadays too, anyway. Like ~40% of all land in the west is owned by the state, good luck buying that land to or a permit to build on it.
Get a nice apartment, this way when you need to pick up and leave (you will), you can.
>>73969485
but being a landlord counts as a job, so you arent a NEET
>>73968207
I bought my first house at 21 and I'm buying my second later this year at 24.
>>73969276
I am guessing you went to University..?
I am sure you will be better off in the long run, I am trapped in a career path I couldn't care less for because I have no real qualifications.
>>73968207
bought mine at 24
>>73969485
Jesus, how did you get so many? Nobody has that many dead grandmas.
>>73968207
I do own a house u stupid fuck
On the rual area maybe, but im a city guy. so no
>>73968207
Thankfully I was born into a rich family so have an easier life than 99.99999% of humans.
>>73968457
He probably means a down payment.
Regardless, you can buy decent 2-3 bedroom homes with a good sized yard for 20-40k, most rural places here are pretty cheap.
>>73969593
welp, I better outsource that shit.
>>73969709
By being the only child of parents who in turn are also single children themselves. One side of my family was high ranking civil servants and both of my parents are doctors so they had spare money to invest and no one in my family know any investment except living frugally and buying houses.
I was lucky I guess, had I had one brother and one uncle things would end up badly.
>America.
>Complaining about house prices.
> $500K is considered """""very expensive""""".
>>73968752
Ah, yes. Every Englishman's dream, to leave deary ol' UK and live in California
>>73968207
Already.
I already live in a house, you stupid fuck
>>73968207
Here in MX houses ain't that expensive so yes.
>>73969900
Are you fucking serious. It's like 600k for rural area's and don't even get me started with the suburbs and cities here. That's crazy cheap dude.
>>73969485
Do you mean 20k a year?
That would be 280 a month that's like nothing
>>73971217
Median income in Turkey is 9-10k a year. 20k is decent money here puts you into a bit above the middle class. Its the average mid level doctor-engineer sallary.
Wife and bought a house for 800k 4years ago and the bank just appraised it at 1.3 million last week. Pretty good investment if you ask me - but we can sell and move anywhere else nice because everything is a million + in the gta
>>73968207
I hope I can BUILD a house, on my dads land. Buying one that I love is probably going to be out of the question. No point buying a shit one.
>>73968207
I could have actually bought a house instead of the apartment I'm posting from.
However, there are many pitfalls and you can risk bills in the hundreds of thousands of crowns if the roof shits itself, or the municipality decides you need a new sewage line for instance.
Also, constant repairs and all that.
Could still have done it with my middle-class salary, but I took the safe bet and bought the second cheapest apartment in Eastern Jutland for sale at the time instead.
More money for fun and I chose a ten year mortgage to kill the debt quickly
Yes. Then again, my profession is such that, if I choose to work like a dog, I can earn 10k in a week.
>>73969722
Get a load of this richfag
or do you mean you're owned by a mortgage
with your own overinflated bubble in the suburbs
Enjoy your endless commute for servitude to sustain the upkeep
You have to don't you
It's all you've got
>>73968207
Sure. In a year or 2 I'll have a deposit and then I'll continue living at home while some loser pays my mortgage for me.
I'm closing on a three two in a wonderful black free neighborhood on monday.
>>73970581
Please don't make me stay
>>73971973
I'm guessing you sell weed and live in your mom's basement.
>>73968457
Finland doesn't know what a mortgage is. Wew lad
I own a home, I never went to college and I'm 25.
>>73969204
I would solar panel the shit out of that house.
>>73968207
Yes, definitely. It'll just be smaller than a normie house.
Modern houses are 3x larger on average than fifties houses. People are obsessed with having more than they can afford.
>>73971992
>Tfw own a 300k usd debt free house
Frels good to be middle class and not a fucking NEET
>>73968207
Absolutely. I was looking at one the other day. Have 20k saved but have rest credit.
Also, at least here in the states, you can apparently buy a house with only putting down 3.4% of a down payment. There's actually a lot of government support trying to get people to buy their own houses. Check out First Time Home Buyers Club.
And if you get a two family you can have the cost of a mortgage split. There's a lot of ways you'd be surprised that you can take advantage of stuff in the real estate industry
>>73968983
Gold and silver crash I believe, so basically the Jews
Starting a business in PA in my home town, if it fails I most certainly an hero and the dream or rather the nightmare will finally be over. So yea maybe one day or not idk I try not to think about it that hard. Scared actually
After my parents die :^)
I'm going to inherit my parent's house when one or both of them die. It's in a Floridian suburb and its property value has increased by over 100k over the last 15 years.
I'll be fine.
>>73968207
I just bought one. 2 bed. Corner plot. Big garden and driveway. £135k. Sucks to live down South now days.
>>73968207
I already own a house and a plot of land.
I am also going to inherit another house and a much bigger plot of land that's basically 90% woods.
Life is good. I just need to figure out how to create a much bigger profit than simply selling wood. I've got plans, but I am not entirely decided on what I want to do.
>>73968207
>Do you actually believe you'll be able to afford a house one day?
no, but my grandfather told me he will leave me his house when he dies. old man best not be lying...
>>73968207
Own a 5 bedroom house with an acre sized back yard and a media room with a projector and 7 foot screen
I just got out of college, 21 years old, no debt because my country doesn't charge you 100k+ for enjoying education, been working since august last year, own a house already. Got a permanent contract, started looking into houses as soon as that happened. Got a good deal for a place that's been rented out and in the market since 2008. Spent a couple of months on it after I got my 105k loan to buy it and now it looks great. Pay 570 euros a month on my mortgage. I got a sweet deal. If I can do it, anyone can.
>>73968457
Fucking christ finland
>>73968457
Shameful display. Commit sudoku now and pray that Väinämöinen will forgive you.
>>73968207
pic related
tfw don't want to turn my back on the UK but there's less and less reason to stay with every day that passes. The outlook for my generation is shit, the only way you'll become rich is by having rich parents. The rest of us will rent terraced houses for the rest of our lives, and keep hearing about how great immigration is for the economy.
>>73968207
I did once, but the market here is being abused by developers and money laundering Chinese now.
>>73968207
Nah.. Unless, of course, I win the lottery, which, I don't play, so, not gonna happen.
>mortgage
>property tax
>hydro/electricity
>water
>maintenance
>Internet/cable/phone
>insurance
The stress level of owning a house is fucking high. The what ifs when you sleep at night.. What if you lose your job..
I own 3. All have mortgages, I rent each out to college kids. Make about $2k month profit.
>>73975381
Aren't house prices in Canada relatively cheap outside of Vancouver?
>>73975381
Not that bad. All of these things are baked into rental rates, or the landlord would be out of business. Unless you live at home and are older than 18, embarrassingly.
>>73975483
Not really, only in shitty places.
>>73975483
I live in Toronto. Small town is cheaper but no job. I don't drive, so, small town isn't for me.
>>73975575
>rental rates
OP isn't talking about renting.
>>73975777
I'm comparing it to the alternative. Owning a house is cheaper in the long run in nearly all cases.
>>73975614
>>73975678
Just by yourself a nice cabin in the Yukon and hunt/farm all your own food lads, it's the only sensible option.
>>73968395
What more of a safety net do you need? You can get an FHA loan for like 3-5% down depending on the lender. Then just refi into a traditional a few years later.
That's what I did.
So, for a $200,000 house you're looking at between $6-10k down payment. Most mortgage companies will factor in closing costs, etc. into your mortgage. $6-10k leaves you $15-19k in left over money. That's plenty. You might have to spend a few grand on a new refrigerator or something not included but it's not going to wipe out the rest of your savings.
>>73975853
>in the long run
Sure, if your rich dead parents left you money. Other than that, starting from scratch is very stressful. Renting is better for most people in the city because not all are lawyers and doctors.
>>73975864
That would be amazing, really.
>>73968207
Yes. I live in Wales and the local population here (in the north at least) is dropping as people leave for the cities in the south or in England. House prices are thus dropping and the immigration into Wales (excluding Cardiff) is none existence.
>>73976109
What's stopping you then lad?
Just looked up Whitehorse, the largest settlement in an area twice the size of the UK, and realised that they've got half of the population of my small town in the UK which most people here haven't even heard of. It still amazes me how few people live in the northern half of Canada - is it really so uninhabitable?
>>73968207
Yeah my house is gonna be fucking dope when I win the powerball
>>73976396
I'm a cunt-owning gook who never held a machete in her life. I would just let the polar bear maul me for breakfast.. Or polar lions if there's one.
>>73970891
>It's like 600k for rural area's
How rural are we talking here
You can easily buy acre blocks in towns out west for under 100k, and building a house doesn't cost 500k. Building the house cheap compared to land in most instances (Obviously if you buy cheap land out west the house would be worth more than the land though)
These acre blocks in a new subdivision cost ~95k
http://pastebin.com/Djf82zdP
You could find many more, I just thought of Kingaroy because my sister lives there.
>>73968207
Our market is tipped for a crash or at least a price correction. and I could afford a unit now or a house with a partner but I don't think its a sound investment at this point in time and its cheaper to rent in my city. (miners geting layed of so shit tone of places up for rent/sale)
>>73968207
There is no point. A pack of niggers will be moved in next door by the government and my property will be worthless.
>>73976787
At least it's affordable
>>73968207
>Do you actually believe you'll be able to afford a house one day?
But I already own 3 without any debts
> that feel when 1,15% intrest rate for housing debt
>>73976597
Also moving out West is literally my plan to buy a house when I'm older and more qualified that I could move out West to a town and get a job
I know we like to pretend that land was just super cheap and boomers had the cream of the crop of life, but when they moved into their first homes It was, at the time, on the outskirts of the cities or in new start up towns in the middle of nowhere. Millenials can't expect to find cheap housing near the cities because cheap housing has never been near the cities*.
*Cities that aren't post-Industrial shitholes with absolutely nothing going for them see: Detroit
All my siblings moved out West when they moved out of home (They're significantly older than me), and my parents lived in the rural Northern territory as remote Aboriginal community nurses during the recession of the early 90's because they couldn't find work or get a house in Brisbane. When my dad, born in 1953, moved out of home he didn't move to a 4 bedroom house in the suburbs, he moved into a 2 bedroom apartment with strangers. People romanticise and make the past out to be way better than It was.
I'll inherit one so yes
>>73976430
ugly as fuck
>>73968207
I live in Sydney, so no.
>>73977173
t. doctor who delivered you
I bought one a year ago for 260k and was appraised the other day at $360k.
It's nice clean and affordable given there are 2 govt job incomes and mild weather. I live in a quiet white neighborhood thats a 10 min walk to the beach and I'm converting some of my land to grow veggies because the earth is rich.
Owning a home is hard work but anything like that worth having is. Renting is bullshit. Pay into your own pocket. I'd rather the stress of a mortgage than the stress of the possibility of a landlord being shitty out of nowhere.
>>73968207
Not with all the fucking immigrants. RIP the australian dream :(
>>73977659
Unfortunately, not all are lucky enough to have a decent career. Are you happy, though? I mean, in general. Do you spend enough time with your family, if you have one?
>>73968207
I don't live in Canada so I think I'll be fine
>>73968207
Maybe after the Civil War dies down and I find some abandoned property to fix up I will, but in the present market I sure as fuck won't be a homeowner.
Considering a 2 bedroom house in a shithole neighborhood costs 300k; probably not. Maybe if I moved to Oklahoma or some other shitty state perhaps I could afford one. But fuck that, I wanna stay in Colorado.
>>73977883
I think there's a bit of luck involved but it's been mostly hard work to get my career to what it is. I come from an abusive childhood and had to bust my butt to do better and improve my life.
Once you realize life is a struggle in general and that you have to work for what you want you feel a lot more satisfied. When you work for something you appreciate it more.
I'm happy 90% of the time. I think it's healthy to have some time feeling low. "Can't have the sweet without the sour"
There's no such thing as enough time with my wife and daughter. I spend as much time as I can with them. I involve them with as many aspects of my life. My daughter is 2 and loves to help us till the soil and plant stuff in the yard.
Things are good but when you put good honest effort in things can be better. Improve your own situation. Grab life by the reigns and do something for yourself
Am I stupid or is it crazy that houses are incredibly expensive and difficult to live in much less own nowadays? Whenever you think of a human dwelling, mudhut niggers notwithstanding, you think of a house not an apartment building right? Someone under 30 or over 30 without a great job can only look at houses and shrug because it's never going to happen. It's like looking at supercars, there's about an equal chance of you affording one. At the same time I'm willing to bet the vast majority of the people here grew up in a house and their parents grew up in a house and their parents and so on.
>>73978393
Well, you're the man of the house. That's your role in the family. What about your wife? Does she work? Who stays with your child when both of you are working?
>>73970581
L.A really is the perfect city for Britbongs to migrate to though. Everything is overpriced, everyone is rude as shit to each other, immigrant population is used as modern slave labour, and public transport is only bad enough to barely avoid riots. It's like paradise.
I can get a decent house in bumfuck Iowa for well under $100k.
I just don't see the reason to. I don't see property here ever really exploding in value and it's a hassle compared to renting.
>>73977876
>Not with all the fucking immigrants. RIP the australian dream :(
Australia has like what, 12 total non-British immigrants?
Being able to afford a house isn't the problem. It's being able to afford a house anywhere near adequate job opportunities and or developed infrastructure
>>73968207
Would I like to? Absolutely. I've been looking for an opportunity to move back near my hometown/family for years now. There's nothing I'd like more than finding a cozy little home on a little acreage and raising a family.
Will I be able to? That's the question, isn't it? Honestly I don't know. The whole housing market is shifting its focus towards renting now to appeal to all the fucking perpetually mobile urban livers jumping from one apartment in town to another every 1-3 years. That's great if you go in for that sort of lifestyle, but the problem is that it's spread to small cities and towns as well.
Renting even a small property has become obscene - I live in a medium-sized city and even two, three miles from town the cheapest one-bedroom apartments would eat up half my paycheck. I'm sharing a two-bedroom and it's still taking up nearly a third.
The system seems deliberately rigged to trap people in that urban renter lifestyle. It takes a long time to save up for a home, so you tell yourself - "I'll rent for a while". But then you can't save up enough to get a new car, so you tell yourself - "I'll just find a place closer to work/school". But then that place is even more expensive so you save even less money, so you keep renting, and you keep not saving, and along the way you just lose more and more stuff and become more and more dependent on those tropes of the city-dweller: The spartan lifestyle, the complete dependence on public transit and taxis, the ever increasing debt just to make ends meet and keep your shitty apartment.
>>73978528
I wish she didn't have to, but my wife works to help support our lifestyle.
She spent the first year off work to care for our daughter. Now we do the daycare thing. We have a family friend we trust looking after her for daycare.
Things can't be like they were in "the good ol days" unfortunately.
Things are way too expensive for an old fashioned lifestyle.
My wife and I both work hard and make family time a priority. Things are expensive but you have to roll with the punches. Roof is leaking? Patch it until you save to replace the roof. Do it yourself and learn a new skill. Price of veggies went up? Learn to grow your own. Etc etc.
The luck part is finding a woman that works with you for the greater good of the family. There are a lot of shitty women out there that try to take advantage instead of sharing common goals. Finding a good woman was challenging for me. Things have fallen into place slowly and nicely since I met my wife
>>73968457
How fucking dumb are you?
>>73978566
Also in bumfuck Iowa living in a house bought for about 60k
>>73978644
Most immigrants we get nowadays are non-British/non-New Zealander
It used to be almost all our Immigrants were British, New Zealander, Italian, German, Greek and Yugoslavian
Then the first wave of chinks came in the 90's and the end times began. This is when One-Nation (Far-Right nationalist party) peaked in popularity. When the first wave of chinks wasn't as bad as people thought they were going to be everyone dropped their guard and since the 2000's we've been inundated with shit-tier chinks, poo'n'loos and arabs and people are too cucked to give One-Nation another go when they're legitimately needed this time
Also the One-Nation leader was a fucking retard so that didn't help
>>73978446
You're not crazy, Sven, we've just been robbed.
>>73976368
>tfw from Cardiff and will never be able to buy a house in Cardiff
>>73979006
Your kid is only a kid once. Both of you will realize that when she's a grown woman and out of your home. In a blink of an eye, she's a teenager. To each their own, I guess. Good luck with your family, anon.
>>73968207
The economy is about to collapse and when it does home prices will come down. People buy right now are straight up fucking retarded
>>73974515
What kind of business anon and what part of PA? That's great country for a brewery over there. Always thought of that in the poconos
>>73968207
No
>>73979266
Thanks
We do realize change is inevitable which is why we make family a priority.
And yes to each their own. My lifestyle probably doesn't line up with everyone else's. If you'd rather rent or live a life where you don't have to worry about a mortgage or whatever, that's your prerogative and you'll get no judgement from me. I hope some people realize there's more to life than complaining about their situation.
If people take more personal responsibility their life will improve
>dad lived with his dad
>got the house when he died
>I live with dad
>I'll get the house when he dies
and the cycle will continue I guess
>>73975068
I'm thinking about buying silver given all these liberals freaking out over Trump and the election. What do you think anon?
>>73968207
Maybe but i probably won't
>>73968207
Yes. I figure I can save up for a down payment in a few years.
>>73979679
https://youtu.be/KUwjNBjqR-c
>>73976060
See >>73976004
On top of that, if you buy a two family you can literally have someone else pay half of your mortgage, at least. It's really not all that hard
>>73968207
Yes, but on a long-ball game. The boomers will die off in 20 years, causing a sudden glut of supply.
Then again, this will all get sucked up by government funded illegals and the Chinese, so...
I don't have to since a house and land will be passed down to me allowing me to spend my money on other things that will benefit our animals and crops or bring new ones in. Or simply save it.
Unlike most retards my parents did not rent or pay for an apartment/manufactured home in the city or suburb and put their money to good use.
>>73979847
Not just the mortgage, anon.
See
>>73975381
>>73979822
What's the point of posting that?
I grew up with a workaholic dad and do everything I can not to be.
Try having a family and NOT having to work... Can't happen
I'm 25, I bought my own house. Worked hard since was 15. Parents never bought me shit.
Don't be lazy, I hate lazy people.
Education is important. Don't throw away that public school education. Don't let liberal progressive socialist take advantage of you. NOTHING in life is free.
>>73969485
>roachnests
What is this? A turk with a self-referential sense of humor?
Goddamn, I didn't see that coming.
>>73978961
It's not that bad dude. What part of the states do you live in? I'm in jersey outside of NYC and rents are crazy expensive here, in the whole area because of how close we are to the city.
Even so, it's still manageable to find a decently priced house in a good area. Look for a two family so you can have someone pay half your mortgage and you'll be fine
what is agenda 21
>>73968902
It's the Baby Boomers, Jews and uncontrolled mass migration (which is a by-product of the Baby Boomers and Jews).
If I moved to the countryside, I would get a house dirt cheap. Everyone owns their own houses there. Problem is there's no jobs.
>>73968207
Yes, but not by traditional means.
>>73968207
If I move back to my home town (Cape Breton, NS) yes, because it's cheap as shit there. But only if I either retire to there or work from home for a company based outside of there, because it's a shithole in terms of work.
>>73979982
Yeah I hear you but I think you're overthinking it. Sounds like you don't have any experience managing properties.
Then again, I know there's a lot more bullshit in Canada compared to the states so you might not be mistaken to think that way
>>73980588
Not overthinking. It's reality. Not all people here are kikes who can afford a house and live comfortably.
>>73968457
Everyone hates you, ASSHOLE.
I know Americans could buy a kit if they live somewhere with decent land prices.
Just Google Log Cabin Kits______ in you state.
You might be surprised how cheap they can be.
>>73968207
Well. I got 45k (Aiming for 70k by the end of the year)saved up I live in quebec ( just outside ottawa [fuck the french ] so land is pretty cheap) my goal is to have 100k put aside before I go move out.
I live with my mother and father I'm 20 and they don't charge me rent. Only real payments I have are for my truck and the gym.
So I'm in a real good place to save up as much as I can. So yeah...make this post in...2...3 years and I'll hopefully have the hole for the foundation dug.
I plan on inheriting my father's large house and 50 acres of land.
But yes I also believe I could buy a house. Fuck, a 22 y/o receptionist at the YMCA I know bought a house on her 9$/hr full time job.
>>73981357
What the fuck. I'm making 30 an hour ( still only doing my apprenticeship ) and I'm worried about payments. Jesus if she can do IT I can sure as hell do it.
>>73975068
Wow that's like....80 bucks.
>>73981476
>>73981476
80 freedoms you'll never have.
>>73968207
Yes, Fort Mac is making me rich
>>73968207
Probably 25. Bought a studio apartment at 20, which will grow in value because of local planning developments.
Will probably be fed up of it by 25 and settle down in a house with somebody. But if it's only me, I might as well keep living here after that age.
>>73981797
Oh shit nigger what are you doing !? Run nigger run!
>>73975222
>tfw don't want to turn my back on the UK but there's less and less reason to stay with every day that passes
And how exactly do you plan on immigrating somewhere else m8? You got no chance of getting into US, Canada or Australia.
>>73981911
> settle down in a house with somebody
Are you gay?
>>73981953
I work in the insurance sector silly
>>73980161
I live in the Midwest and it's terrible. About 5-10 years ago all the Chicago fags started moving out of the city to the smaller cities in the surrounding states, and instead of adapting to the lifestyle in those cities, they started gentrifying and hipsterfying huge chunks of these places to make them more like Chicago, and it caused property values across the region to skyrocket.
15 years ago, my family was able to buy a 4BR 2BA with a yard, in a safe neighborhood, within walking distance of schools and downtown for <$70K in my hometown. Today the cheapest comparable house in the area $295K. That's almost two years's pay just for the down payment. That's fucking insane.
I can only imagine something similar has happened with the LA fags on the West Coast and the NYC fags on the East.
>>73980713
>>73979014
>>73973755
we just dont consider things bought with someone elses money that you have to pay back + interest as property
but yeah im probably inheriting a summer cottage + few apartments + monies if i can keep the good boy points flowing. stay mad wagies
>>73976004
Depends where you are and what that $200k will fetch ya.
>>73982353
Oh. Well as bad as the whole thing is...you struck gold.
>>73968457
you can buy some yoghurt and pay tribut to the khan
I already have my own $250k apartment, why would I want a house with a garden and all that upkeep?
>>73982224
Why do I have no chance of getting into Canada? I'll just dress up as a Syrian or something.
>>73982953
Damn man that sucks. That's kind of what happened to Brooklyn and Hoboken too. If you had an apartment in Hoboken in the 90's and sold it before 2008 you could have made hundreds of thousands of dollars, potentially a million.
Idk good luck man. Just keep looking, estate sales can be a great buy. And if you're handy at al you can fix stuff yourself and save some more
>>73968207
Depends what happens on the 23rd of next month.
