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What are some legit doubts you have on Trump, like actual legit shit and not Drumpf-tier John Oliver shit?

Me personally

>The insistence that fucking EVERYTHING this guy does is some super fucking 54 dimensional hyper drive thermodynamic chess instead of accepting Trump has flaws like we all do
>the fact he keeps harping on that Mexico needs to pay for the wall when really the US government pisses away billions a day regardless and we are the creditor, you could easily find 10 billion in the budget to cut for wall
>addicted to putting his foot in his mouth it seems just to see how far he can go
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>>73933512
HILLARY SHILL DETECTED

SAGE SAGE SAGE SAGE

CANNOT BREAK ECHO-CHAMBER AT ALL COSTS
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>>73933586
Honestly this as well, while I do see actual legit shill-tier bullshit but the whole

>X amount has been deposited into your account

Shit is just as bad, it's spam and most "shills" are usually shitposters knowing they'll get lots of (you)s.
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>>73933711
It's because /pol/ and the "alt-right" is just a meme

This board is a shitposting containment board that failed, don't take anything they say seriously
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He isn't that successful. He had a decent enough head start financially that anyone slightly above average intelligence could have made lots of money. Considering his failures and bankruptcies, he's careless and doesn't take time to assess a course of action.

He is impulsive. While that's appreciable in some realms, it's not for the Commander in Chief of the largest military in the world.

His past leanings and statements are in consistent with his current campaign. He was a New York liberal, but is now appealing to a conservative base.

Yet despite these flaws, Trump is the best candidate in the race. A big part of that is him not being a career politician.
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>>73935076
>He isn't that successful. He had a decent enough head start financially that anyone slightly above average intelligence could have made lots of money. Considering his failures and bankruptcies, he's careless and doesn't take time to assess a course of action

Have to disagree there.

He's a good businessman, he made a lot of money($1 million >> billions is not easy), but that's about where it ends.

He's just that, a businessman. He says what people want to hear(alt right cucks in this case). He literally outlined his political strategy in art of the deal.
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>>73933512
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>>73933512
I think that while he does make mistakes, he's very good at turning them to his advantage
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>>73935888
>He's a good businessman
But a worthless father, and consequently a worthless man. He failed to raise his daughter properly. She chose to become a jew, and have a jewish child. If he can't even control his own daughter (i.e. raise properly), what makes these you think he can control a country?
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>>73933512
that picture made me lose it. my sides...
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>>73936156
Nigga where have you been? This has been used to characterize Cruz for a while.

Have a rare wombato
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That man is a pure populism, no profound knowledge or ideas whatsoever. [spoiler]but i love him[/spoiler]
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>>73935076
>He was a New York liberal, but is now appealing to a conservative base.

I don't know if I'd call him entirely liberal, there are clips from him in 80's talking about being a Republican and supporting Bush for president. He's more of a centrist to be honest, I don't think he knows who he is sometimes.

>He is impulsive

I'll agree with this as well, he shows this a lot on the campaign trail. It goes back to my last point of him being addicted to putting his foot in his mouth, he keeps doing it but it seems like he rebounds every time. Sometimes I just wish he'd stop that shit because in the GE, you only get one election. The primary it's easy to rebound.

>>73935985
Any stormfag who SERIOUSLY believed he was some kind of kike slayer needs to off themselves immediately.
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>>73936142
Back to stormfront faggot.
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>>73933512
Seeking worthwhile trade deals is not the same as intentionally inflaming international relations. Saying crazy shit like calling global warming a "Chinese hoax" is counterproductive and acting on such ridiculous beliefs could create an unpredictable and needlessly confrontational world.

The reality is that China is rising and will be the largest economy within a decade or so. Accepting that and moving forward strategically is the smart move. Pretending it's not going to happen and that the US will always be the WWII industrial superpower it used to be is an ideology that had run its course and failed
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I'm pretty sure Trump is for FDA regulation on vaping which would destroy the commerce of this new and booming industry that I love.

>inb4 mouth fedora
Fuck you it's my preferred nicotine delivery system.
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>>73936774
>you
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>>73936805
So what you're saying is...

...Nuke china?
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>>73936733
>Any stormfag who SERIOUSLY believed he was some kind of kike slayer needs to off themselves immediately.
He's a kike-cuck. He won't "Make America great" again. You're delusional, Ronald Mcdonald.
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>>73937044
Regulation on vaping was inevitable, it's basically wild west now. Any kid can get a box mod on ebay and some juice.
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Waterboarding and torture is bad policy- wrecks a governments image for intimidation and is a bad way of getting information.
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>>73937408
I will probably kill myself before I am forced to put FDA approved 100% PG "menthol" type juice in my DNA 200/uWell Crown.
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>>73937487
We pretty much outsource all our torture though, honestly if anything Trump is just being upfront about it.

I think torture is just the side effect of facing an unconventional enemy that doesn't follow international law or even has a nation.
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There's still like a 50/50 shot that he was a seed planned to disrupt and divide the right, which he's done a tremendous job of so far
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He doesn't understand environmental issues or internet/privacy issues but Rand in the cabinet will straighten that out.
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>>73934049
>foliage
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>>73933512
>the wall is a silly idea
>we should just start a full scale war with the cartels, not a shitty drone war, but a war with airdropped shock troops, tanks, and maybe a couple of nukes.
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he has a hard on for eminent domain
he basically wants universal healthcare

those are the two biggest things
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I don't care about any of his policies really, I only care that he pisses off liberals and the media.

Trump 2016
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Doesn't he still believe that vaccines cause autism?
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>>73933512
>>The insistence that fucking EVERYTHING this guy does is some super fucking 54 dimensional hyper drive thermodynamic chess instead of accepting Trump has flaws like we all do
Everything Trump does is LITERALLY PERFECT YOU SHILL. ALL ACCORDING TO THE KEIKAKU!
>>the fact he keeps harping on that Mexico needs to pay for the wall when really the US government pisses away billions a day regardless and we are the creditor, you could easily find 10 billion in the budget to cut for wall
Yeah but Mexico benefits from dumping all their shitty indios on us. Also, saying MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL is a waaay better response to people whining about how we can't afford it.
>>addicted to putting his foot in his mouth it seems just to see how far he can go
He's testing the water.
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>>73943425
This.
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His lack of any real conviction in any kind of policy leads me to believe that once in power he will rely heavily on advisors.

I'm also concerned how he wants to bomb bomb bomb the hell out of Isis yet claims to not want to involve himself in any more wars of any kind.

He's another Republican Israel shill

His genuine belief in dumb shit conspiracy theories
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>>73933512
He doesn't pay me to shitpost.
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>>73933512
Even if the Muslim ban is temporary or even a suggestion, it's retarded and unenforceable. I think a lot of Trump apologists interpreted this statement as a ban on refugees or people from certain Muslim countries, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

All of his insults come across as really childish and I would be embarrassed to have him representing me on the world stage.

Too many of his answers to questions are too vague. I want to hear more than "I'm going to negotiate" or "We'll hire the best people"

He hasn't promised to [spoiler]make anime real.[/spoiler]
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I'm ambivalent.

On the one hand I agree with most of his positions and general ideology if you could call it that, but I don't think he's personally fit to be President. i think he's much savvier than Serious People give him credit for, but he doesn't seem to understand many issues, and he seems kind of willfully ignorant in a sense.

I'll probably end up voting for him regardless.
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>>73946312
Overwatch fags are already annoying and the game isn't out yet
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>>73933512
Look up interviews and court records with people who have done business with him, and the property owners / local companies of his home congressional district, and why virtually nobody from his home district voted for him during the primaries. They hate him for screwing them over. If he can't get what he wants, he sues people out of business. I don't believe that someone with that kind of character is capable of leading our nation to a better future.

pic related should be the next president
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>>73933512
There's one point that's been troubling me.

On the one hand it's common knowledge that TPP and that other one, TIPP or whatever, are written by Satan himself to torture the common man and squeeze every last penny out of him.

On the other hand Trump talks a lot about the US trade deficit with China and how he would like to fix it.

But it just so happens that one of the goals of TPP is to strangle Chinese trade and people's been saying that TPP is basically a move against China.

Does that mean that Trump essentially supports TPP and will push for more clandestine agreements that would empower corporations when he becomes president?
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>>73933512
His financial ties with the Clinton Foundation and other establishment Democrat/GOP figures and conglomerates that fall under the Bilderberg Group's jurisdiction warrant doubt as to the integrity of his character. This isn't ancient history either, we're talking within the past decade. If he's really adamant in what he represents now, or what /pol/ claims he represents, it means he's very fickle in nature. Combine that with no policy experience and we're putting a cocktail of fuckery to brew by putting him in one of the most prominent seats of power in the sovereign world. And while this isn't a criticism of him per se, passing anything through congress will be a hell of an uphill battle. McConnell stated outright that he would not play nice with either him or his administration and I doubt Reid or anybody else in the Senate/House feels any differently. It'll be the kind of stagnancy they presented to the Obama administration, only intentionally and actively worse.
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>>73937257
>He won't "Make America great" again.
the guy has genuinely good ideas but i dont know what harm it'll do to go in a trade war with china and mexico considering mexico has oil and china is our manufacturer.
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>>73946312
except that its not only smart, it is enforceable.
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>>73933512
>54 dimensional hyper drive thermodynamic chess

replying because you made me laugh
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I've been to at least one speech/rally for every general election presidential candidate since 1996. Without exception, until now they have all been well-spoken people who present cohesive plans for the problems facing our nation.

I went to a Trump rally in Biloxi, Mississippi (not native but visiting family), and the experience was completely different. His speech seemed unrehearsed and undirected. I'm fine with speaking off the cuff, but when your speech devolves into rambling punctuated by applause then there is something wrong.

Every single other notable candidate for the office of the president for the last decade has hashed out what specific problems we need to solve and how we should solve them. Trump's solutions are beyond vague, they were presented in a manner more suitable for brainstorming sessions with advisers than public presentations. Yes, the proposal for the border wall was specific enough, but beyond that nothing definite was presented. His entire speech could be boiled down to pointing to problems facing America and saying, "see how much this sucks?," and talking about how much various people, groups and institutions love him.

I don't know if it was an act, if he just had a bad night or if it was just Trump being Trump, but I left with a distinct impression of him as being vapid, unintelligent and uninformed.

Finally, the people around us seemed to be there for the same reason as me and my friend—to see what it was like, rather than to actually show support. Very few people in our entire section cheered, clapped or waved their signs.
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>>73948231
That's not what I mean when I say it's not enforceable. National origin can be proven by birth records. How could you prove I'm not a Muslim?

I don't think it's smart because Muslims make up over 20% of the world population, and in order to flush the radical parts of it, we're going to need the help and support of the moderates.
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>>73949061
A final note, just something that I found interesting. I attended the rally with a friend who lives in the area, he picked up on this immediately and it was later confirmed by some googling. Trump stated that there were roughly 20,000 people in attendance, a number later repeated by most news sources. He also said that it was the biggest political event in state history, which I'm not sure about but do doubt. My friend pointed out that the Coast Coliseum only seats 11,500 people, and they couldn't have fit more than 500 people on the floor. Combine this with the fact that the upper levels of the coliseum were no more than 1/4 full (and the fact that much of the crowd seemed to buy this assertion without reservations), and something seems very much amiss.
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>>73935888
>literally
>>73945114
>LITERALLY
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>>73933512
Trump's biggest legitimate weakness is cybersecurity, which ironically Hillary is even worse at so he gets a pass.
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>>73949089
It's obvious that you're biased against him, or you're trolling, so why do you keep babbling about how many people fit in a stadium? Who in the hell cares if it was ten or twenty thousand? Just return to red it and never come back here again.
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>>73950431
>biggest legitimate weakness is cybersecurity
where did you get that? Sounds like something you pulled out of your ass.
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did anyone else notice the complete lack of Cruz threads after he dropped out?
or not even threads, but posts referencing him. maybe i'm reading too much into it but I'd expect there to be more outcry if there was actual legitimate support for him rather than just astroturf.
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>>73933512
He's egotistical. It's never good to let big heads control nuclear stockpiles.
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Hes kinda jewish.
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>>73950464
I just found it curious that he said there were 20,000 people in a stadium that fit a little over half that and wasn't even full.

I found it even more curious that nobody in the news media picked up on this discrepancy. Both Trump's statements and the capacity of that venue are publicly available.
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He's a man immune to subversion. Subversion is the one thing that made our society shit, and he is immune to it. The red media attacked him like rabid dogs and he didn't subvert like every single spineless politician before him.

He turned that publicity into strength. His unwavering stance made an example.

That's the example the West has long needed. I wonder what Yuri Bezmenov would say if he was still alive. He would probably endorse the hell out of it.

Nothing else matters.

Him pushing it to the limit is just a plus.
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>>73950728
maybe people stopped clicking on those articles after the last 20 times they tried to pull that trick.
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>>73950511
For instance, when he demanded that Apple comply with the FBI and hack into a phone Or when he suggested to shutdown part of the internet. If Trump was proficient in Cybersecurity it would be his number 1 biggest attack on Hillary. In fact, I'm surprised he hasn't attacked Hillary on this aspect, her server was hacked by many people it's such a huge security failure. Trump needs to hammer on this shit more frequently, because cybersecurity in our government is a complete fucking joke.
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>>73950784
What trick?

I read the newspaper articles on it, which don't depend on clickbait, and the discrepancy was never mentioned.
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The only part thats been great so far is MSM and the superpac groups losing their shit over him because he self funded and won the nominee.
No way he would ever make a good president. Because why would he go against the system that made him a billionaire?
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>>73950903
they're always trying to make the crowds look smaller than they really are, or they wont report on it. It's possible people stopped listening so even if Trump lied about 10k people nobody cares since the media lied about 10k people in the other direction 50 times.
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>>73933512
Kill yourself, jew
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>>73951078
Trump said something similar, that the news cameras only focus on Trump and the people immediately behind him rather than the crowd, but that's not unusual for them to do. People watch the news to see what politicians say, not John Q Public standing in the background.

Have they actually lied about the numbers of people attending? If they have, I missed that. They parroted his numbers without even trying to check them.
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>>73933711
You reddit faggots stick out like a sore thumb. No one gives a fuck about "you's" as if they were cuckvotes.

I can spot a reddit fag from their cadence, it's like a frenchman trying to fake english
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>>73951343
Trump was the frontrunner going into the debates and at every single debate he was booed and mocked viciously by the crowd.
Shills are real anon.
i don't really care that much enough to dig back into when.
i remember them using a fisheye lens or something on one of his first public rallies in the south. he had the stadium filled but they made it look really small like he only had a few hundred people.
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>>73933512

Pretty much all of his anti-science stances make him a no-go for me. Also the fact that he was (is?) a Birther. Especially when he pulled out his "birth certificate" that wasn't the actual legal document but a souvenir from the hospital he was born at. That was really fucking dumb.
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>>73951530
Hmmmm. A quick google shows one discussion from a pro-Bernie sub reddit, but honestly that picture just looks like they were trying to get a panoramic view of the stadium rather than diminishing the attendee count.

If it were done repeatedly then I might buy it, but as it is I'm only finding this one questionable instance.

Unrelated, but I never understood reddit/tumblr style layouts. Now do they handle nonlinear conversations? Can you actually quote more than one post? If anybody can fill me in it might make internet detectiving a little easier.

>>73952077
>souvenir from the hospital
wut? What do you mean by souvenir? Did they get it at the gift shop on the way out? In any case, there isn't really any question of where he was born, so it's a moot point.

But the whole birther thing is pretty funny, considering that you're a natural-born citizen so long as your parents are citizens no matter where you are born (although I think there's some weird legal bullshit regarding the Panama zone that caused trouble for McCain)
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>>73952446
no. plebbit is pretty awful for discussing anything. anything the mods don't like is banned, only the popular posts are shown so no real discussion is allowed. replies are all circlejerky since unpopular responses are hidden.
the best youll get is some contrived devils advocate responses from people who have no idea what ideas they're trying to advocate
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>>73950883
1. The phone was government property. Trump said Apple should be assisting the Feds to access anything on the phone that could pertain to national security. If you disagree with this, then you're a commie faggot.
2. Trump has attacked Shillary on the server issue during many of his rallies. He mentions how crooked she is, then he points out that Bernie lost any chance he had to take her out in the first debate when Bernie defended the emails, saying he was "sick and tired of hearing about her damn emails." Trump often points out that the Russians and Chinese likely hacked Shillary's server. You just don't know it because you don't watch his rallies, or you do watch but you're too busy austistically headcounting the audience.
Fun Fact: Trump is the most technology-savvy Presidential candidate in history and his understanding of tech dwarf what you and I know combined.
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>>73933512

hello ratto
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>>73952812
you're the commie faggot for insisting a company must do what the government wants them to do. they owned the phone, not apple comrade
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>>73952446

Yeah, it was back in 2011 when he was big into the Birther thing. It wasn't a legal document, just something made by the hospital for parents to hang on the wall.
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>>73952725
It's mostly the format that pisses me off rather than the community. Yes, I realize that the format influences how the community forms and does stuff and whatnot. It's the fact that ten million different faggots linked pic related in the same discussion, all of them acting like it's new shit. Now I have a window with about 20 different tabs of just that picture. I can close all the tabs, no problem, or just close the whole cancer-ridden window, but thinking about how a person could willingly use such a painfully inconvenient site makes me question everything I hold dear.
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>>73952812
>Trump is the most technology-savvy Presidential candidate in history and his understanding of tech dwarf what you and I know combined
You just had to ruin your post with this cheap bait, didn't you.
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>>73952981
Only a fucking faggot would want to debate the ethics and morality of retrieving data about mudslime terrorists stored on a government-owned phone and potentially saving American lives in danger.
The Feds should have put their boots on the back of the necks of those nu-males at Apple and curb-stomped those faggots as a warning to others.
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>>73953167
claiming that was bait shows how out of touch you are with Trump's accomplishments this election cycle. Historians and /pol/itical scientists will be discussing these events for many decades to come. Trump's mastery of technology enabled him to defeat sixteen contenders before Shillary could even defeat one old, tired decrepit jew socialist.
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>>73953053
Oh, this was before he ran.

I think I can actually understand that. When I was preparing to enlist I spent hours just pulling medical records. I'm not even a particularly sickly individual, but getting the right kind of records from a hospital I visited after getting a concussion at wrestling camp gave me more than a few gray hairs. That shit can be a real hassle, though I'm not sure how bad legal records are compared to medical.
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>>73953500

Oh yeah, long before he ran. But the entire Birther thing was just so dumb I can't really forgive it in addition to the other things I don't like about him.
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>>73953350
so... in what way aren't you a commie?
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>>73953492
Okay, I'm willing to put my prejudice aside. Give some examples of how technology was involved in Trump's campaign, unless of course you mean "political technology".
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>>73953350
>potentially saving American lives in danger
Am I completely wrong, or was this long after the people in question were dead or in custody and therefore no longer a danger to American citizens? I thought it was pretty clear early on that they were self-radicalized and therefore not part of a larger cell or organization.

>>73953658
>not being post-commie prog-trance
cmon m8
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Trump pulled a Putin and operated as his own self-boasting spokesman.
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>>73953765
Trump's social media tech lets him communicate directly with the voters and have an open dialogue free from the spin and political correctness found in mainstream media.
President Obongo doesn't have any clue on how he would begin to do that, consequently he has always been out of touch with the real issues and concerns of the American public and that's why Obongo's always saying shit that sounds stupid and delusional, such as "if I had a son, he would look like Trayboon"
There's no denying Trump's tech let him run a lean campaign that spent a tiny fraction of what Yeb Bush spent, and defeated everything in its path.
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He's very much still a liberal at heart and most of what he says is just saying what people want to hear.
Unlike Hillary though I believe even with that liberal spark I think he legitimately wants to do America well and keep it in good hands.

Also every single thing about him pisses off people I've hated for the past 10 years which means I want him around and relevant for at least 8 years.
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>>73933512
Fuck. You shills are so desperate that you have ask us for your own talking points??
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>>73953886
After the shooting, feds traced their footsteps to a park and found there was a missing period of 18 mins (I think) that they just couldn't account for.
One of the speculations was the terrorists disposed of something in a lake, so the park's lake was drained and searched, turning up nothing.
Another concern was that the terrorists had uploaded go pro video of the shootings to isis for propaganda purposes, but this never produced results.
Finding out what was on that phone was important because it could have clues to lead to other potential attackers or sleeper cells. Every stone has to be turned over when you fight these fucking mudslime scum.
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>>73954042
***operated as his own self-boasting spokesman under a pseudonym.

The pseudonym part is particularly what makes me suspicious of him.
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>>73954290
>still a liberal
And yet there are 25 year-old videos on youtube contradicting everything you claim, such as in 1991, when the Congressional Task Force invited Donald Trump to Washington to give expert testimony on how to end the economic crisis and make an economic recovery.
related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw
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>>73954705
I said at heart, you dishtowel.
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>>73954124
Forgive me if I misinterpret your argument, but you seem to be saying that Trump having a Twitter account makes him a tech wiz on par with Edsger Dijkstra and is therefore more than qualified to speak on subjects like shutting down the Internet. This seems like a mild simplification of the skills required to navigate the intersections of policy and technology.

>>73954456
But none of the first three have to do with the phone. There are no other attackers or sleeper cells because they were self-radicalized, which we could very quickly tell from their computers, and therefore not part of a larger network.
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>>73933512
>his dad was a free mason and he probably is too
>his daughter converted to being a jew and married a rich jew
>he had the clintons at his wedding and was good friends with them, donated many times to them
>he talked with bill clinton shortly before announcing his campaign
>he may be a ringer/NWO agent too
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>>73954772
trump is socially liberal, economically conservative.
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>>73954909
We're all NWO agents as we do nothing to stop it.
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Lmao at the shills in this bread
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Expanding libel laws is generally a big no-no in a time where free speech is already being suppressed.
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>>73954772
>>73954934
>socially liberal
No, Trump is a teetotaler and famously socially conservative to the extreme of being what most of you would consider dull. For instance, back in the 1970s, a social columnist (and family friend) dragged Trump and wife to the opening of the notoriously famous Studio 54 Disco. That legendary night would go on to be one of the most remarkable in the history of NYC nightlife due to the overwhelming guest list. But Trump would have to read all about the extravaganza in the newspaper the next day because he and his wife left Studio 54 early because it was past their bedtime.
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>>73955243
This is a big one for me. I personally think that libel laws in America are too restrictive (you have to prove intent to defame in most cases, which is pretty much impossible), but Trump wants to do away with SLAPP protections because they've gotten in his way in the past.

I think that if you say something that you know to be false (or reasonably should have known to be false), and that this statement has a demonstrable and predictable negative impact on another person, you should be liable.

SLAPP legislation protects news outlets from getting sued every time they say something negative about someone with more money than sense. Anybody who wants to remove those protections shouldn't be allowed the means to do so.
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>>73954775
>Trump having a Twitter account
Thank you for proving my point. See, that's the beauty of Trump's tech -- he makes it all look so easy. The haters, like yourself and the other shills in this thread, think that Trump must just be really clever with Twitter. You dimwits never stop to consider all the technology that's play behind the scenes to manage the campaign operations and coordinate each move. Trump makes it look effortless. He fills stadiums like a rock star and jets off to different venues, sometimes doing four events in one day! There are choppers whisking him from jet tarmacs to motorcades with police escorts. There's a massive entourage of media, press, security, fans, protesters, and curious looky-loos. All of this happens like the most well-trained orchestra thanks to Trump's technology. And the beauty of it all is that it's seamless and unapparent. There's no fucking awkward moments when teleprompters don't work or groveling apologies have to go out on social media because butthurt college millennials got their feelings hurt. Trump's tech is always two steps ahead.
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>>73956116
understanding logistics and media != understanding technology
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>>73955753
George Zimmerman had his life ruined by NBC and other mainstream media who edited recordings of his 911 call to make it falsely appear he shot an innocent baby out of racial hatred. What they did was beyond wrong, they destroyed this man's reputation on a national level to where even his own president stood up and spoke out against him, and all this happened long before he was ever judged at trial.
Zimmy should have been awarded truckloads of money for what they did to him. President Obongo should have personally apologized and bowed down to Zimmerman to beg his forgiveness.
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>>73956373
hey red it, can you formulate a non-meme counterargument?
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>>73933512
t. hello.rato
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>>73956373
Society and its motions are a technology. It even runs on energy.
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>>73949068
Moderates don't want to help us. The may not actually cut your head off, but they'll gladly cheer on the guy who does

Moderation and Islam are not synonymous
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>>73956116
So, Donald Trump has traveled to the distant land of Any Rock Band Ever and discovered the dark, forbidden secrets of having a PDA from 1997, roadies and drivers. Thanks to these ancient magicks, which are entirely his work alone and in no way involve anyone else, he must be an expert in the field of, for example, cybersecurity.

>>73956442
Arguably, under my definition of libel, that would count. When someone is presented with an unedited recording that suggests one narrative, and they change it to suggest a different narrative, they are knowingly presenting the public with false information that has predictable and negative consequences for someone, and can therefore be held liable.

In any case, SLAPP is about frivolous lawsuits, not the actual definition of libel. Change how libel is determined all you want but leave SLAPP alone.

>>73956646
"Technology" is a rather broad category. Cobbling together a Minecraft mod does not make you qualified to handle UXO, or vice versa.
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>>73933711
>$0.01 USD has been deposited into your account
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>>73956977
>he must be an expert in the field of, for example, cybersecurity.
way to move the goal posts. Just to remind you, my argument was based on my claim that Trump is the most tech savvy Presidential candidate ever in history.
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>>73956570
>>73956646
Clearly you two have a broader definition of technology than I do, since I define understanding a certain technology as understanding how the technology functions, the implications, and results of fucking around with the moving parts rather than using it as means to an end.
To put it another way, shitposting on 4chan does not mean you know how to change it so that German WW2 march music will play on every page on 4chan.
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>>73954972
>We're all Martian defenders as we do nothing to stop Mars from existing
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>>73957476
I know how, HTML is easy and yotsuba is even easier.
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That sounds about right, yeah.
I'd defend mars.
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>>73957476
What you're doing isn't tech, it's tinkering. You are a tinkerer, much like Disney's Tinker Belle.

Trump is a master of technology. This fact is clearly evident in the success of his casino businesses, luxury properties and resorts, his hit #1 rated national TV show, and his historical political campaign.
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>>73933512
His views are not consistent. Not between now and the 90s. But just this election cycle he jumps around all over the place. I'll bet you he will go back on the Wall and NAFTA type trade deals. This makes me suspect of him.

Also his idea of selling off land from our national parks is fucking awful.
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>>73949089
You do realize political candidates always oversell "tickets" to these events right?
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>>73935076
>isnt that successful
>muh bankruptcies

He's had over 500 companies, only 4 have ever declared bankruptcy. That by itself makes him the most successful entrepreneur in the history of the world. Factor in the fact that 3 of those were intentional in order to force the banks that the loans were from to renegotiate rates and terms and he's godlike.

Trump has flaws, for sure. There are definitely some things I don't like about some of his policies, for example I tend to be more liberal on domestic policy like abortion law and gay marriage.

However, his economic knowledge and business sense are NOT a flaw. In the world of economics he has no equal. To go as far as to say he's not that successful is just plain ignorant.
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>>73957995
is that your way of saying you have zero evidence to back up your dishonest claims?
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>>73950554
Cruz "support" here was just shitposting. Anyone here who actually looked at him for a second knew he was just a bog standard neocon
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>>73933512
Not really a criticism but is there anything Trump has said he'll do to help the single mother epidemic? I guess lower taxes implicitly helps that. But I don't see these mothers doing the manufacturing jobs he promises to bring back.
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>>73958099
>to say he's not that successful is just plain ignorant.
you took the bait. That anon isn't "ignorant", he's just baiting you. Don't fall for Shlomo's lies and tricks
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>>73950576
Hillary is more likely to use nukes than Trump, don't try to Goldwater him.
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>>73933512
He's playing greyscale GO while everyone else is playing snakes and ladders
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>>73958124
Look it up yourself on google. Trump is not above criticism and it's cringeworthy when I see people treat him like he's a savior that will fix everything. Reminds me of another candidate popular on reddit.
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>>73958190
Waitressing is the number one job for single mothers in the USA. Trump's bringing back jobs, that means people will have more disposable income and will eat out more than they do now. So all the single moms can expect bigger tips and more of them.
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>>73933512
I like how all of your concerns about Trump are a part of his strategy to get the votes of common people.
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>>73958279
>Look it up yourself on google
That you're way of saying you can't support your vague claims with any real evidence?
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>>73957372
>>73957958
Well, over here >>73952812 you seem to imply that he is.

He may be the most adept at today's technology, but I would argue that he is far from the most tech savvy candidate in history. Thomas Jefferson was incredibly well-educated in many different subjects from botany to architecture and was the president of the American Philosophical Society. He was known around the world as an incredibly intelligent and well-educated individual.

When Teddy Roosevelt was president and the Smithsonian came across a fossil they couldn't identify, they sent it to the White House for him to look at.

And you think that because Donald Trump runs casinos and gets good ratings on TV, he is a master of technology.

>>73958083
He was talking about people actually there. He also said that they had an overflow room in the building next door. I happened to (a) ask an employee about it, and (b) stick my head into the supposed overflow room, and neither line of inquiry supported what Trump said.
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>>73933512
For starters
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>>73933512

My biggest doubt is he's a political moron. Most high schoolers who are interested in politics and foreign policy would know more than him about the current state of world affairs. Not good for the man who, more than any other, singlehandedly decides the fate of the world.
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>>73937057
>Falling for the memes this hard

We're having an adult discussion here kiddo
>sweden
Jamal will come tuck you in shortly bud
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His tax plan will leave massive revenue gaps. There's no way you can cut taxes that low and borrow more money.

Also, the tax cuts for the rich are absurdily dramaticily less in revenue. Like damn, they make millions off this nation and uncle sam can't get a bigger chunk for the country that gave them the opportunity?
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>>73958458

>high schoolers knowing anything about anything

Found the highschooler
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>>73958421
>Thomas Jefferson
>jack of all trades, master of none.
Jefferson lost all credibility by oil-drilling his pet quadroon.
I suggest you read Trump's books, you can find them in your local library.
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>>73958610
>no mention of the closing of tax loopholes the wealthy benefit from

In to the trash with your opinion
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>>73958458
How can you think he doesn't know a lot about the current state of world affairs? That's one of the most asinine shill statements I see. The man has business ventures all over the world. And in real estate, nonetheless, which involves a countless number of factors including knowledge of foreign currencies, regulations set by foreign governments, and much more.
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Also a big one

>DON'T ASK ME ABOUT ISIS I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU THE PLAN BECAUSE I HAVE A PLAN IT'S THE BEST PLAN YUUUUUGE ALSO I WON'T RULE OUT USING NUKES NUKES NUKES DON'T ASK ME I DON'T WANT CARDS OFF THE TABLE I WON'T TAKE THEM OFF DON'T FUCKING ASK ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

He does know shit like that will bite him in the ass right? Honestly despite all the flaws he's still the best candidate, Hillary is just awful. I'd take another term of Obama over her.
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>>73933512
He's not strong enough on resisting this transgenderism wave. Obama released a decree that schools have to let boys into the girls' locker room--this is legitimately sexual abuse, telling girls they can't expect privacy, they must expose themselves in front of boys, and Trump isn't speaking out against it. I wish he were. Generally I wish he were more socially conservative, but he probably wouldn't get the nomination then. He does at least claim to be pro-life, and there's a better chance he'll appoint a good supreme court, whereas with Hillary you're guaranteed superlibs. I like his foreign policy, I agree we shouldn't antagonize Russia, but I wish he were stronger standing against the tide of social liberalism. Hopefully electing him breaks the back of the SJW movement and conservatives are able to regain ground. I'd say he's a better move than Clinton there, but still not a great one.

Pic unrelated
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>>73949068
>we're going to need the help and support of the moderates.

so why is it important they can fly to the states? how will they help shape the middle east if they abandon ship?
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>>73958799
He honestly doesn't care about social issues and probably didn't want to give Hillary some campaign asset to beat him over the head with. You just have to know that if he was president, he wouldn't do anything about transgenders. He wouldn't make any new law. He'd pretend it doesn't even exist.
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>>73958643
I suggest you read Jefferson's books, you can find them at the Library of Congress. His donations from his personal library formed the basis of the Library after the War of 1812 and are now considered important enough to warrant their own display, which takes up a surprisingly large room.

>>73958739
Did you hear? He also has a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam.
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>>73935888
>$1 million >> billions

My main problem with Trump isn't him at all, it is mindless retards like you that parrot blatant nonsense.

Trump inherited a fucking real estate company with many properties in New York City. He inherited billions of dollars worth of assets.

Do you think that he took his 1 million dollars in spending money and built a fucking time machine and became his own father and built up the Trump real estate company starting in the 1920's?

You just hear something that you want to hear and then you don't think about it ever again, you don't analyze, you don't consider, you just feel a feel, and leave it at that. It's ridiculous.
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>>73959009
Like I said, better than Hillary. Hopefully not doing anything would be the right move--hopefully he wouldn't need to rescind any laws, but I feel like there may be some by January.
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>>73958799
on trannies, Trump said yesterday that he wants the issue to be decided by the states, adding that he supports the states' right to make their own laws on this and many other issues. In case you're a newfag who wasn't here five years ago, this support of states' rights is what made pol such faithful supporters of Ron Paul
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>>73949068
>le moderate muslims meme
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>>73959038
>Trump inherited billions of dollars worth of assets.
>billions of dollars worth of assets.
>billions of dollars
>billions
>billions
>billions
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Christ this whole thread is misinformation/shilling


>I swear guys, I'm totally smarter than the guy who turned 1 million dollars into 10 billion, I swear
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