Without making too bold claims.
Why does Nevada keep going Blue?
Is it because of California scum coming over there?
>>73896624
>Iowa
>blue
lol
>>73896676
Notice the places with the highest density of white people go blue. Why? They are yet to notice the true effects of multiculturalism.
>inb4 someone puts Colorado as red
>>73896713
I presume, based on the shades, that it's tied into current polling.
Michigan will be in play this year.
>>73896624
Does Donald really not have a shot in his Home state? I mean hes yet to fully unload on hillary
>>73896624
>trump
>winning
>>73896676
Guess so, and I'd throw some Latino's in as also being a reason.
>>73896624
>Florida
>not leaning blue
Stay out of American politics
>>73896713
>Lightest blue possible.
>>73896850
It is based on my gut which is influenced by polling, trends and paying attention to this election for some time.
>>73896624
Virginia definitely is leaning blue. Florida is more of a swing state.
>>73896624
by the standards of this board - good map
>>73896925
Barely. It's shaded. Light red can still flip to Dem.
You can't deny this election will be close. Trump is more appealing than Romney.
>>73897040
Thanks famalan
>>73896676
Latinos + relatively high unionization rate (12th highest) + high urbanization (94.3).
Its weird that Nevada is not bluer than it already is. Oregon and Colorado in many ways are more statistically likely to be red.
test
>>73896713
Iowa hss voted blue since '88 except in 2004.
>>73896624
>PA
>swing state
>not solid blue
>>73896624
Texas... should be blue tbqh...
>>73896877
He has 0% chance thanks to Jew york
>>73896961
Obama won with barely 70k votes against fucking Romney in Florida
>>73897483
>Obama won with barely 70k votes against fucking Romney in Florida
And all those Latinos In Florida will come out for Drumpf right?
>>73897440
Well it was only lost by 6% in 2012.
>>73897530
*Cubans don't give a fuck about what Trump says about Mexicans.
>>73897547
Ohio, Virginia and Florida were lost by less than 2.5% in 08 and 12.
If PA is a swing state, then Arkansas, North Carolina and Iowa too are.
>>73897530
They're called Cubans and they hate the left because Castro
>>73896961
You living under a rock?
Florida is like almost always the closest state, and Trump currently beats Hillary in the polls there. This wil only increase.
>>73896961
Trump came extremely close to beating Hillary in the primary and had to suffer against Cruz and home state Rubio.
>>73897440
You're underestimating the anger of blue color white workers who Clinton consistently shits on.
>>73897530
>drumpf
thanks for letting me know I can discard your opinion
>>73897547
>Well it was only lost by 6% in 2012.
>>73896624
>inb4 Trump winning white blue collar workers is bold
Call it bold all you want, but I think Trump will flip Michigan and NY, as well as PA. The rust belt has been waiting for an economic nationalist like Trump for years and years. People always think of Bernie Sanders supporters as millenial college hipsters, but that's not how Bernie keeps winning states. There's just not enough of them for that. The rest of his supporters are middle aged working class Catholics who were raised by JFK Democrats and that party is all they knew. But once Bernie is out and it's fucking Hillary the globalist NAFTA lady versus Trump the "bring jobs back!" guy?
Just wait.
>>73897918
>You're underestimating the anger of blue color white workers who Clinton consistently shits on.
Don't tell me how my state will vote faggot when you never lived here:
>>73897986
>>73897986
>>73897986
Yes, only lost by 6%.
Um, thank you for proving my statement?
Well, hopefully this will herald an age where people do no longer frown upon hanging disobedient chairs from trees.
>>73897986
thats what your chart shows
>>73898008
>white blue collar
There is no source to claim this is true.
>>73898100
>Um, thank you for proving my statement?
Again do you know how elections work? If a state has voted blue since 1992 and the country is getting more blue, what makes you think it will vote red now?
>>73898161
check the polls
>>73898161
>Demands source to prove the outcome of a future election.
Dude, this isn't physics, this is social science.
>>73898196
repubs control the house and senate
>>73898196
Trump is more liberal and left than Hillary?
>>73898272
>check the polls
Trump is a Republican and thus working for the interests of the 1%ers.
>>73898304
>repubs control the house and senate
Yes due to gerrymandering, not actual votes you stupid faggot.
>>73898339
Trump is more left and liberal than Hillary.
Hillary is a corporate cunt and is working for the 1%.
Do you even watch the news?
>>73898363
Ok, you're a troll.
>>73898363
Case you didn't know Dem voters are concentrated in cities and thus have less districts.
>>73898399
>Trump is more left and liberal than Hillary.
I wish I could spend all day and shit post on 4chan. Here's Trump's tax plan you stupid faggot. Massive tax cuts for the 1%. Trump is Reagan on steroids.
>>73898464
>Case you didn't know Dem voters are concentrated in cities and thus have less districts.
Tom Wolff is governor and the Supreme Court is Democrat, you guys are fucked down. Democrats will control PA for the next 1,000 years
>>73898466
Is protectionist, endorses planned parenthood, for LGBT rights, has supported dems before, is from New York.
Is tax really the only thing that you think defines a person politically? Wow, you're not old enough for this board son.
>>73896624
Why do you guys keep thinking that New York will not be solid dark blue? More people voted for Clinton in Manhattan alone than people in the entire state of New York voted for Trump.
>>73898363
Do you even know what gerrymandering is?
>1 district gets 99% dem vote (aka niggerville)
>other 12 districts get 45% dem 55% rep
>overall total votes are 75% dem
>Republican elected
That's just how elections work
>>73898535
Supreme court is due to die off mostly in the next 8 years. If Rep wins, it will be 90% conservative. Currently exactly even.
>>73896624
close to mine
>>73898694
Depends on the system retard. It's not the one with the most votes who wins. Are you 13 years old?
The one with the most DISTRICTS wins.
In a general, the one with the most votes in a state wins the state, and thus the electoral points.
You're mom should show you step by step.
>>73898768
Fair enough.
>+1
>>73898694
You sound literally 13. You have no clue how the American election system works.
>>73898733
>Supreme court is due to die off mostly in the next 8 years.
I'm talking about the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
>>73898466
Know how I know that chart was made by an anti-trump liberal?
>share of tax cut as a % of amount changed
So if the richest get a small break in their overall percentage, but that percentage is worth hundreds of thousands, that somehow makes their break "better" than the tax breaks for poor which represent a large break percentage-wise but small dollar amount saved?
>Citizens for Tax Justice
>Funded by private individuals and union groups
>look into who funds those
>SOROS
Shocker
>>73899236
>Not relevant to thread.
>>73896624
This is according to the latest polling and previous election trends.
>>73899541
>implying this isn't the year when Texas finally goes blue
>>73899541
>Latest polling = bullshit too early "Trends" = bullshit Trump isn't a normal Rep.
Give it a few months son.
>>73899690
>Texas will go blue
When will this meme die?
>Virginia
>North Carolina
>Georgia
>Red
>>73897440
According to the latest poll Trump is within 1% of Clinton in Pennsylvania. It's definitely a swing state this year.
https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/ps05102016_Sw4b42d.pdf
>>73899541
Then why isn't Minnesota red nigger
>>73897440
There's a current 1% difference
>>73896756
Those places also for some reason are always next to the ocean and don't produce their own food
>>73900307
>what are polls?
>>73900183
>Georgia and NC will go blue, Hillary will do better with blacks than Barack fucking Obama did in 2012
Is this a new meme?
>>73898196
>the country is getting more blue
>>73900360
Yea latest poll showed trump up in minnnesota by like 1%
I'd be curious about Emperor vs. Hillary pollings in states such as Texas where #CruzMissiles are at home.
>>73900520
Where the fuck are they getting these numbers from?
>Trump is breaking records with Republican turn out
>lol no jk he's off
>>73900568
>Implying conservatives will vote for Hillary
These memes....
Even Latinos vote Rep in Texas.
>>73900662
Primary turnout.
>>73900183
>Virginia
Yeah Trump is down 6-9 points in VA depending on the poll, not going to happen.
>North Carolina
Trump and Shillary are tied in current NC polling. NC is usually red, it just went blue because niggers came out to vote for Obama. Won't happen this time.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NC_42716.pdf
>Georgia
Wtf are you smoking. Georgia is solid Trump territory. He's up 5 in the RCP average. Georgia didn't even go blue for Obama, they definitely won't for Clinton.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ga/georgia_trump_vs_clinton-5741.html
>>73900566
>>73900716
Virginia went blue for Obama specifically to. It might swing if blacks decide it's too much effort to vote if it's not for a brother.
>>73898648
>Is protectionist
He's nationalist
>endorses planned parenthood,
Endorses the non-abortion parts
>for LGBT rights
He's for the states to decide that.
>has supported dems before,
And Republicans too
> is from New York.
Honestly not an argument. No state is completely one or another despite how the majority votes
>>73897769
Bitch, Arkansas only swung for Clinton in 1992 because Bush split his vote with Perot. No way Shillary takes Arkansas. However, considering that the demographics of PA have a very large number of disenfranchised, white, blue-collar workers in the Rust Belt (except for the blacks in Philly), PA could definitely have a chance of swinging to Trump if Bernie doesn't win the nomination.
Just look at the primary results alone, and pay special attention to the vote count.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/pennsylvania
While 900k turned out for Shillary, almost 900k also turned out for Trump, and 700k turned out for Bernie. More people in Pennsylvania voted for Trump than for Bernie, and the Bernie bus in PA has a LOT in common with the Trump Train in the same state. The blue-collar demographics show this.
>>73899541
Factor in primary voting
>>73896676
Actually it's because traditionally the Reed Machine has controlled the state. This year I wouldn't give it so clearly to the dens since the machine has started infighting
>>73896624
counting on PA.
not trusting Virginia - government workers are probably scared of trump
>>73900856
Trump is left. Always has. His whole life he said legalize weed, social healthcare and othe shit. Only now as a republican has he turned in those ideals. And for good reason, he would've gotten bombarded if he said those things during the primaries
>>73900662
That was voter turnout on The first Super Tuesday
>>73901049
Honestly, until about 4 years ago I was pretty fucking liberal. Then I finally came over to /pol/ from /b/ and swallowed the redpill (well, that along with shit that was happening in the world and my personal life). So people can change
>>73900856
>is nationalist
What, you can't be nationalist and protectionist? They go hand-in-hand, America first.
>Endorses non-abortion parts
If it's necessary, which is already a lot more than former reps.
>States decide
So? That's good. Small government=good, Trump himself is not imposing on anyone, yet he let Caitlyn/Bruce Jenner use any bathroom in his hotel. = For LGBT rights, but not a bitch about it.
>Republicans too
The fact that he can go both ways makes him pragmatic, which is imho, much better than being a fanatic cunt.
>NY not an arguemnt
Has has been stated, he's not all "muh Christian values" like other reps, plus being from NY will make it contested. Most likely will lose by 5% but this means Hillary has to spend time defending it.
>>73901049
do you have any voting records to back that up, hillshill
>NH, VA red
>PA not blue
>>73901266
Listen you stupid nigger you could go look up that yourself. Trump legalizing weed and healthcare would balance out his negative real. It's a smart way to win. No one is shilling
>>73901031
This.
PA is a must win. There is no other way for Trump to get to 270. He is not going to win Virginia.
This election will come down to Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and Arizona. Trump has to win all of those or he's fucked.
Good news is he is up or tied in all those states except for Pennsylvania.
>>73896756
that's not true. the reason those places are blue is because the big states have big cities that are very black and brown. nyc area has more people than the rest of the state etc. all other white places without cities are red
>>73897530
>he thinks Cubans that risked their lives to flee Castro will vote for the party desperate to suck his dick
>>73898018
This. Trump will bring a lot of "dormant" voters out. Idk about NY but MI and PA are gonna go red for sure.
>>73901343
NH might go red because they're a bunch of gun nut shitheads.
It's all a show.
The votes don't count.
They try to MK every president.
I mean the whole countries high level security and secret info handled by a cunt grama with no IT skills or understanding?
>>73900666
I have no doubt that he will carry Texas, I'd like to see the polls. Romney had 16% more, McCain 12%,
>>73898339
How much do they pay you? Your shilling is too obvious. Just get out while you can ok? K thnx bye.
>>73901377
>Good news is he is up or tied in all those states except for Pennsylvania.
>>73898018
i hate to say it but hes not winning NY trust me i live here on long island and hes got a decent amount of support here on LI and a lot upstate but thats no where close enough for him to win
the most he could do is maybe scare hillary into wasting some time campaigning there while he goes somewhere more important to campaign
>>73901377
Keep in mind Quinnipiac are notable R shills, they put Romney up 6 in Florida in 2012 like a week before the election.
>>73898018
>NY
>>73901754
That's also what I said.
The main thing about Trump is not about the states he will definitely win, but about all the the states he ~could~ win.
Other elections were so focused on turnout and 3-4 swing states but Trump puts so many on the board into play (which the dems are not used to at all) that they will be scrambling everywhere.
>>73901980
>Trump puts so many on the board into play
Yeah, he puts Arizona and Georgia into play for the dems kek, along with the house.
>>73902062
Fuck off Ahmed
Guys, these preliminary polls are as good as nothing. If you've ever paid attention to an election, you'd know that the polls are dynamic and don't typically indicate who has better odds of becoming president. Wait until October. That's when most independence will have made up their minds.
>>73902062
I wonder what its like to be a troll. I remember that feeling in high school that it was "cool" to be a flaming liberal. It's ok you dont know better but sooon you will see the light.
>>73901980
normally republicans focused on the white evangelical vote but he can focus on other places like swing states and maybe improving his status with women and latinos
he also needs to campaign a lot in places like VA PA FL and OH and actually spend money if hes going to win
>>73900666
Sorry about the nigger problem South Africa anon! Satan blessed your post.
Our "Latinos" are not dumbfuck beaners like the rest o the country. Texas is like its own country.
Many of them here are "Tejanos" which is a WORLD of difference. They are basically Native American and Spanish mutts that helped Texas gain independance from shitskin Mexico.
Many of the Mexican looking people here are culturally white, have normal sized families, can read and write and follow laws, respects others, has virtues, and HATES ILLEGAL BEANERS MAKING THEM LOOK BAD.
>>73902062
>Hillary will do better with minorities than Obama
Can we end this meme?
>>73902298
>fistbumps
Thanks anon
>>73902298
Being a tejano in AZ is suffering
I rarely ever meet other red pilled beaners
>>73902331
>>73902132
>>73902209
I'm right wing, you faggots have chosen a liberal shithead over a real conservative. That's why trump is now supporting trannies and minimum wage rises, and going back on the muslim ban.
>>73902695
>european
>any real right wing at all.
>>73902331
>>Hillary will do better with minorities than Obama
>Can we end this meme?
Niggers love a man who get that paper and don't give a fuck. Trump.
Spics are tired of Guatemalans taking their benefits. Trump.
Chinks hate PC kikery and are being discriminated worse than whites. Trump.
Dot heads like to poo in loo here so they like a man who bullts huge routers with lots of loos. Trump.
Muzzies are to inbred to make it out to vote. Split.
Native Americans always want to Make America Free, independant and Great - look at thier military participation rate. Trump.
Kikes will vote Hillary. Gas em'
>>73901785
>>73901718
Just nuke my shit up senpai. If trump loses America is lost forever.
>>73902693
Sorry, maybe the Native Americans have more in common with you. They also are red pilled, protesting against illegals in New Mexico while I was there.
Another funny thing is you ain't gonna tell Native American schools SHIT about PC.
Schools mascots like Redskin, Savages, Indians, Chiefs, Blackhawks.
>People still putting ME blue
Not gonna happen
The primary votes are irrelevant because the GOP reduced caucus sites to 1 or 2 per county, hour drive one way for many, whoch closed by afternoon while Dems had 10 per county and were open for almost 2x a long.
They also didn't let Dems change day off despite what it said online.
We lost all of our factories (5 paper mills in last 2 years)
All the Boiniecucks won't vote Hillary
We have the Trumpiest gov in country
Put Repubs in Congress since forever
VERY progun, just removed our carry permit law.
We're all just simple farmers, tending to our tax burden
>>73897440
>says PA isn't a swing state
You must not live here, mate. Even the urban areas like Philli and Harrisburg hate Shillary.
>>73900742
>Star Tribune
>not a liberal shill
Pick one
>>73902867
>>73905080
Only polling available.
>>73902899
Exactly senpai
>>73896676
To be completely honest, Nevada is usually a bellweather state but it has a ton of spics.
>>73896624
Why is PA grey? What candidate is that?
>>73897344
Iowa's done really well the last couple years under Branstad and a lot of people are getting really pissed at the Obama Administration's HUD department forcing small town's in our state to import low-income criminal black families from Chicago
>>73906896
Grey states are swing states.
>>73908399
Swing on my nuts bitch./
>>73896961
Florida is going red this year.
t. floridian
>>73896624
Good job OP.
This is truly the most realistic map I've seen so far.
My only doubt is more of is PA more on the fence then VA?
>>73898196
Its demographics. Whites are turning more red the rest of the countrty is turning more blue because of non whites. So a white working class places are gonna start going red.
>>73897440
>PA
>not a swing state
this is something you should have learned in like 3rd grade
>>73901785
This is why he needs the le epic Pancakes man as VP.
>>73901445
Maine is the whitest state in the Country.
>>73898768
This is my guess too. Whoever wins Pennsylvania will win the general.
Fuck, now I see why you guys hate CA.
I don't want to live here anymore. Literally there was ared truck in my campus today with a heart in it saying Bernie getting signatures n shit
Isn't that kike out yet?
Based off of primary votes, political atmosphere, and current intuition - it will be a close race where Pennsylvania determines the winner.
If you unironically call Trump, "Drumpf", and think Hillary will win because of, "demographics", and early polling - Hillary will win in a landslide.
If you unironically believe that Trump is a nationalist messiah and that the people who have been brainwashed by decades of liberal media will see the light and overthrow their globalist overlords - Trump will win in a landslide.
Either way, Trump should not be underestimated. People who don't like him are trying to say he will be the next Goldwater. I think that's an exaggeration. Let's remember the primaries aren't 100% finished yet. We still have the conventions which will realign poll numbers significantly.
I think it will come down to how Bernie is treated. If he sells out and becomes Hillary's VP, it's over for Trump.
results may vary
>>73914444
This. Pennsylvania is deciding the president
im so fucking sick and tired of seeing nevada blue in all of these
jesus christ, trump had 4x the democrat votes in the fucking primary here
there isnt a goddamn chance in hell that it would turn blue
>>73896624
