>the monarchy wants us to stay in
>the government wants us to stay in
>the IMF wants us to stay in
>Obama wants us to stay in
>TTIP wants us to stay in
>the EU wants us to stay in
We don't have a snowball's chance in hell of leaving. Why? Because the votes won't be counted fairly.
Vote leave, vote remain, or don't vote at all. It's already been decided.
>>73868426
Completely agree. Still going to vote leave tho
>>73868426
You wouldn't happen to be a ... worthless, apathetic millennial, would you?
>>73868467
>>73868426
This is my concern too. I've always been saying that and everyone I mention that to just says "that's illegal though"
Fucking idiots.
I'm voting out though.
Didn't realise the monarchy was pro EU?
>the monarchy
Why people would listen to them is beyond me
Isn't the monarchy supposed to be politically neutral?
>>73868609
>Didn't realise the monarchy was pro EU?
But they are not. OP is just a shill.
>>73868663
>>73868610
>>73868684
>>73868609
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/01/exclusive-royal-family-considering-dramatic-brexit-intervention
>>73868426
>we'll probably fail so let's not even try
stahp
>United Cuckdom is against EU
Anglos were always an enemies of Europe, so, that means EU is good for Europe?
>>73868747
check the the date of publication you silly anon.
Even for the Graudiad that was horseshit
>>73868859
Yeah, it's 1 April but it is genuine.
>>73868747
This would be a great opportunity to replace the House of Windsor. Their German roots are showing.
>>73868773
>so, that means EU is good for Europe?
An EU without the UK backstabbing and sabotaging every effort at reform would be good for Europe. That's why the eternal Anglo went in: to shit on all our efforts to make progress.
>>73868747
>>73868684
I see... Just saw a "leave campa " bus
>>73868957
EU without the UK would be even worse because it would be Merkel and Hollande doing whatever they like.
>>73869005
We don't have influence anyway, and with 5 more countries wanting to join what little influence we have will just get diluted as more populations join it.
Let Merkel and Hollande and Junker run it into the ground for all I care.
UKIP needs more love, they're the only ones that want to save your pasty asses
Otherwise enjoy that 5 AM call to pray every morning
Why was a referendum even considered in the first place if the government are against the idea?
Is it just so they can rub it in the faces of nationalists?
>>73868426
The monarchy wants Britain to leave, I thought.
>>73869207
>Why was a referendum even considered in the first place if the government are against the idea?
>this is how the average Brit Millennial actually thinks
No wonder you've all but lost democracy, you don't even have any clue what it is.
>>73869207
It was promised by the conservatives so they would lose less votes to ukip.
>>73869253
See >>73868747
Also
Q U I T E R A R E
>>73869207
If the remain wins, UKIP is dead, and the Conservative party can continue ruling the country for at least a decade.
>>73869207
UKIP were stealing votes from the other parties.
In order for the tories to win the general election, they promised a referendum.
Now they're holding it because it's not exactly the type of promise you can just casually sweep under the rug and pretend it never happened, it's only the referendum to leave the EU. Also, it's just low risk; we won't leave because leaving the EU would wreck the political establishment so irreparably hard that it will just rig the votes in its favour.
>>73868983
Is that cardiff?
>>73868426
>>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Not according to what the Queen's people leaked a while ago. They want the UK to Brexit.
>>73868426
Still do your moral duty regardless if its rigged.
>>73868747
April Fool's Day story anon.
It says something that this would make a perfect April Fool's Day hoax in the Guardian's opinion.
>>73869381
A question. Is this #brexit referendum actually binding? Or is it just a should we/shouldn't we bullshit. Cause they've pulled this horseshit before.
>>73869419
Lord no.
Portsmouth. Not from here but handing in my last pieces of uni work today and then drinking.
Never been to Cardiff. Not heard the best of things.
>>73869367
>the guardian
There would be fucking outrage if they got involved, especially in something like this.
>>73869503
It's binding.
It will be rigged.
I work on election counts. For our local election the ballot boxes took over an hour to travel the half mile to the count.
It was a dry run for how they'll do the referendum. The boxes will be switched prior to the count.
>>73868426
Brexit: The Movie
https://vimeo.com/166378572
>>73869571
It's not legally binding.
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Nice try republicuck.
>>73868747
It was an April fools story you fucking dense cunt.
>>73869376
UKIP will probably be even more popular if remain wins.
>>73868914
The monarchy want Ant and Dec to be their spokeman. Don't be a fucking idiot.
Or do. It's funnier for those around you.
>>73869580
If you're not bullshitting us,
will you be a whistleblower?
There must be someone or somewhere you can go to to whistleblow
>>73869524
You've been misinformed.
Cardiffs comfy as fuck
>>73869611
Well... fuck.
>>73869562
Well I was just linking you to the article here. If it's not the right paper for you then look it up yourself bloody gook
>>73869659
If it happens again on referendum night I will say something.
I live in a mildly eurosceptic area and I report the counts of three wards (so roughly 30,000 people) to the returning officer. I'll know the numbers for leave/remain. If it's off, then I'll start speaking up.
>>73869697
I'll have to visit some day.
>>73868426
https://vimeo.com/166389884
Spread this like wildfire chaps.
>>73869609
reeeeeee
I'm getting hyped already
>>73869207
It was in the Tory mandate. Cameron couldn't weasel out of it.
>>73868426
Of course It's rigged
Voting intent is around 65% leave
The IN people are a lot of apathetic complacent retards
The banks always win.
Stupid goy
>>73869503
It's not binding at all and in fact many people campaigning to leave are doing under the intention of re-negotiating entry once we've decided to leave.
However, it would be fucking insane for the government to ignore the outcome of the referendum if people wanted to leave. As in -- it would be the end of the current parliament immediately.
>>73869524
Cardiff's alright at the moment, but it's slowly going the way of London. Better to visit sooner rather than later if you're ever thinking about it.
The bay and lake areas are lovely.
>>73869746
based you, thanks
Don't just speak up fucking yell about it until the police arrest you.
>>73869746
Doing your work for Queen and country, anon. I salute you.
>>73869503
Referendums are consulting apparently, if you followed the Dutch referendum on the Ukraine trade association.
Mark Rutte is trying it to sweep it under the rug. Thierry Baudet has sued him because the majority of voters (67%) voted against the association and Rutte doesn't respect the outcome, because it was a negative one despite all the propaganda.
>>73869746
Wait, if all the vount counters have access to the outcomes, wouldn't we have seen more cases of fraud come to light?
ya its rigged. no fucking way the souless gloabalist kikes will let you go
bet money on staying to ease the pain when the result get in. its what i did
>>73869173
>>73869580
Dude somehow someway put a mark, gps locator or something on the ballot box please. If it's illegal I understand
>>73869580
>>73869580
If true you must blow it open. If only to see Cameron dragged out of Downing Street and lynched in parliament square.
>>73869786
Sounds nice. I'm from a small island on the south coast that is getting worse since we are governed by a local council that isn't our own. They built council type housing by a nature reserve with a sea view. Ever since litter, crime, alcohism and such has been up.
Shame places never seem to change for the best and only the worse. I'll get to Cardiff and do something. Take gf and do something good >>73869803
>>73868609
>that's illegal though
haha... Never change Britbongs
this is why you go straight to hell, sry lad
>that feel when hoping for a brexit
>that conflicting feel when you want them to stay so you can use your UK passport to travel and work in Europe
I'd still vote for Leave. The EU must die.
>>73870069
Its ignorance and I hate it. One guy said "I'm voting in because I don't want going on holiday to be harder"
Christ man
>>73870176
We're more likely to have closer ties to you if we Brexit.
Should the flooding from the EU stop, we can arrange migration from the better countries again.
>>73869761
I firmly believe the country will vote to leave.
But they'll never let us go, even if it means rigging the results.
Fucking sucks.
>>73870176
stop this
you can still travel around Europe just fine if we leave.
It's a bullshit lie.
>>73869881
I'm not a vote counter - only the electoral supervisor has access to the count totals for his/her allocated wards. There are 3 for my district. The returning officer is also privy to it.
So, prior to the official announcement, there are, for my area, 4 people who know the totals. I'm one of them.
>>73870242
There aren't any right answers to this debate. It's a big question about how we want to our country to be govern.
The only thing you can go on is your agenda and how it will impact you. So if that dude wants to go on holiday without... uh, having to come back home, then that's a good of a reason as any.
I mean the EU isn't going to start making British people get visas and you need to take your passport anyway. But, maybe he goes on really long holidays and he doesn't want to pay £2 for travel insurance.
>>73870325
I hate modern british people.
We will submit and suck cock rather than revolt after we are told we are staying in.
Fuck you british people i hate you all. No spine.
>>73870367
Just to add to this, it really wouldn't be hard to rig it if you had enough people willing to do it.
I accidentally under-counted Labour's vote by 20 at the 5th May elections and no one found out - the official result for that ward is wrong by 20 but now it's part of history and would never be disputed.
>>73868609
This. I wouldn't be surprised if they rig the vote. But you must vote out regardless and hope for the ebst.
>>73870367
Stop bullshitting you fucking shill.
The vote can be easily fixed. Box swapping is one way, postal votes is another... There are endless ways to fix the vote... After all they give us PENCILS AND NOT PENS to ficking vote with.
Even if you are who you say you are, you have zero control over vote fraud and the numbers you see will he fixed already.
Just vote out. Hopefully it hit news uk election rigid full coroption
>>73868983
#TakeControl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8KgkuiLqck
>>73868426
if you get to actually exit, which I honestly doubt, but lets see....
well yeah they are just going to sneak you in the backdoor undemocraticly, just like they did here.
>Voted NEVER to the EU twice
>Silently and suddenly we were in the EEC with no say what so ever
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Her Majesty wanted out, though, and it was a whole to-do when that leaked because She dared disagree with parliament.
If Brexit actually happens it'll restore my faith in democracy. I can't remember ever seeing the people overrule something the elites want this badly.
>>73870531
Did you even read my posts?
See >>73869580
Scotland will vote stay and fuck things up just because
>>73870484
>accidentally
nice
>>73868610
Them inbreds arent even British. They are a bunch of Romanians that fucked into a German family
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Top kek, I bet this gives cognitive dissonance to god save the queen right wingers
>>73870865
don't know if you watch question time, but the clapping for leave advocates is getting louder and longer.
All you need to do is mention freedom and democracy and the regressive left gobble it up. That's the one thing they are good for I guess.
>>73870966
They don't though. The Queen wants Brexit.
>>73869562
What's the point of having a fucking Queen if she's too much of a pussy to comment on a pretty major issue like this?
>>73871172
meant to be politically neutral
>>73868426
No shit Sherlock, it's just like our joining. Tvery single friend i had voted no, and the friends of my friends and so on. And guess what? Somehow we are on this leak boat and there no way out of here, cause we are in the middle of shit ocean. And our only choice is to see what going to happen at the end of this ride.
>>73871172
It's a parliamentary hostage situation. Her Majesty, nor any royal is permitted to discuss politics or exercise their powers without consent of parliament.
Yep
We are fucked
Brexit movie is a harsh red pill on the EU and guess what? It is instantly censored n deleted if it's uploaded to YouTube.
I will vote leave but honestly, we will stay in. It will be fucking retards who want to save £10 on their holidays or roaming fees that keep us in. An absolute travesty.
David Cameron must hang.
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Who said that?
>>73869609
This video mane
Fucking hell...
>get us outta here
>>73872311
the grauniad
but it was only joke
dumbshits still believe it tho
sneaky lib tactics at work
>>73868554
if you're under the age of 36 you are a millennial, so yes I am.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>>73869580
We need people to wait outside their local vote places in a car, follow the vans and record the trip.
>>73873526
yeah, good idea, would be nice if it could be put into practice
of course, they could just have the stuffed boxes already in the van behind a false partition, and swap them on the trip
not sure why it would take them an hour to go 1/4 of a mile though
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
No they don't
>>73870420
Modern society is the problem, noone gives a shit about politics anymore, its even worse in Germany
All feel too comfy to start a riot or at least go on the streets
>23 June
>Britcucks on suicide watch
So hilarious to see you faggots waste your time to make a meaningless cross on some paper. Meanwhile you know exactly that Brexit will not happen.
>>73868426
Not to mention that REMAIN are a bunch of cheating cunts and have had so much more money thrown at it.
http://order-order.com/2016/05/13/eu-paid-e160-million-to-pro-remain-groups/
I bet it will be 51% remain, 49% leave
>>73874249
Goddamnit I envy you Suisse so much.
It's probably naive but your country looks like a goddamn utopia compared to us.
>nazis wants us out
>ultranationalist cunts like Farage wants us out
>knee jerk react idiots wants us out
>people who thinks a little island can grow into an empire again wants us out
>people who don't understand why it is called GREAT Britain wants us out
>old people with old mentality wants us out
>xenophobes wants us out
>people who don't want to change europe instead wants us out
>selfish people wants us out
>>73875037
So where in Lahore are you from? Or is it Den Haag?
>>73875037
>0.02 bongs have been deposited into your account
if you want UK go into full fascism vote out
if you have the balls to try to change the EU for better instead vote in
>>73875119
>implying you can change the EU when you are worth 1/28th of a vote
Fuck off shill
>>73868426
>Monarchy wants us to stay in
Last I heard the Queen said something different in private, and her aides refuse to deny it.
>>73868426
>implying any of those entities have a say.
Vote out if you have any balls. And tell your friends the same thing. The trump/brexit ticket will rescue our anglosphere our ancestors left us
>>73875644
I heard she gave Nick Clegg a verbal beating for his pro EU remarks at a dinner party. OP is pro-EU defeatist shill
>>73868467
Enjoy your third world war.
>>73869609
Wow, talk about fencesitting. I mean, I understand wanting balance in the media, but it wouldn't kill him to at least have some sort of angle in making this doco.
>>73875037
>people who don't want to change europe instead wants us out
> change europe
Top KEK.
If you had any idea how the EU actually operates you'd see it's immune to change. I don't blame you for not understanding it because it was designed to be as confusing as possible - specifically to prevent democratic control. The people running the show want a technocracy - with them being the ruling class. They don't want democracy.
>>73868426
>what are riots
>>73868426
Go with what the British voters want. Fuck everyone else
>>73875119
>>73875037
This is why the EU is able to fuck over all the native population in europe.
>better love that brown semen
When the EU fails, people will finally realize that globalization is impossible.
As humans, its in our nature to kill people over trivial shit and money.
>>73876406
Don't respond to bait.
>>73868426
Fear or Freedom. Choose.
>>73873118
How can I get a job there?
>>73875119
>if you have the balls to try to change the EU for better instead vote in
We've been trying to change the EU/EEC for forty fucking years.
The EU has no interest in fixing the laughably distorted Common Agricultural Policy that even now use most of its funds to prop up inefficient French farmers.
The EU has no interest in fixing the corrupt Common Fisheries Policy that has seen the British fishing fleet halve in a few decades.
The EU has no interest in stopping the monthly Strasbourg move that has no purpose except to aggrandise France.
The EU has no interest in reforming a single currency that has turned the Mediterranean into economic appendages of Berlin.
The EU has no interest in reforming its Six Degrees of Separation form of democratic accountability that is explicitly designed to shield Europes "elites" from public opinion.
All that matters to the EU is the European Project, a utopian fantasy of blobbing into a lumbering mercantalist bureaucracy-worshipping superstate that will somehow arrest the continent's decline.
In what possible universe would that seem like a good idea?
It's a funny old world where the crusty Britain-hating Left are lining up with corporate fat cats to demand Britain remain in a glorified Old Folks Home for failed empires and not reinvigorate its ties with the booming Commonwealth.
>>73877276
>It's a funny old world where the crusty Britain-hating Left are lining up with corporate fat cats to demand Britain remain in a glorified Old Folks Home for failed empires and not reinvigorate its ties with the booming Commonwealth.
exactly, they all want a really high paying job doing nothng much in the EU bureaucracy
traitors
Obama already destroyed this fantasy.
British people need to stop being so cocky and remember they are living in a modern globalized world. Its too late to back out now.
>>73869609
What a load of absolute horseshit.
The arguments boil down to 2 things as fucking usual. Money and power.
"We thought we could join and control everyone else and everything but other people have some control over us now. And they take some of our money in taxes to help all the other countries in it. Fuck them."
The only argument they had going for them is the lack of transparency but besides that, its all fuckery.
Pull out like a nigger trying not to get a white girl pregnant already. The economic collapse you get rewarded is worth it.
>>73875119
>Implying I don't want Mosely
>>73878291
>Mosely
>Not Powell
Step up sempai
UK is fucked anyway thanks to Londonstan's new Mayor already rustling his watcher's jimmies by warming trump.
>>73876260
something we are no good at.
>>73878585
Unless it's football.
>>73878585
Seriously. Just look at the Peasant's Revolt (which wasn't called the Peasant's Revolt until centuries later because England had no peasantry). Hundreds of pissed off guys march on London, wait a few days waving spears and axes menacingly...and then they go home.
My guess is that it probably rained.
Let's make a list of what we've been told will happen if we leave:
>third world war
>we'll have to abide by all the regulations anyway
>families will lose £40000000000 a year
>back of the line (queue)
>>73875037
>>people who don't want to change europe instead wants us out
>implying you can change the eu
>"muh brexit"
>"muh white crusade"
Why is /pol/ always discussing about stuff that will never happen? Why doesn't /pol/ accept reality?
>>73878741
what about runnymede?
>>73868426
We have observers at vote counts in the country, there will be observers from both sides of the campaign, and from abroad.
>it turns out BRexit isn't about getting rid of Brazilians
Woah shit what's this then?
>>73869207
Cameron thought he was getting another coalition, so he could weasel out of it by getting the lib dems to not allow it to happen.
>>73879654
Because by the law of averages, one day /pol/ will in fact be right. And the ensuing happening thread will be worth it.
>>73869376
>If the remain wins, UKIP is dead
Yeah just like the in vote in Scotland killed the SNP right?
>>73879654
>Stop hoping for good stuff, guys!
>Don't upset the status quo!
>>73869707
>>73869503
It's not binding because parliament in sovereign in making laws.
However ignoring the result would bring down the current government and hand the subsequent election to some anti-EU party. It would quite literally destroy the current establishment.
>>73875037
>immigrate to another country to leech
>calls others selfish
>>73879931
>Aussie shitpost
Into the trash with you cunt
>>73879984
Holy fuck is this a joke? You're making a Brexit referendum and IT'S NOT EVEN LEGALLY BINDING.
My god you fucking antidemocrats are getting cucked non stop, why don't you kill yourself RIGHT NOW.
>>73880048
>Aussie shitpost
Yes, well, you started it.
>>73879917
the difference is that the SNP are the party of government in scotland, whereas if the referendum is a 'no' vote then UKIP will only have the protest vote
>>73879654
Brexit is pretty much 50/50, the remain campaign are desperate, which is why they're spewing shit about how leaving will cause WW3 now
>vote comes out as Brexit
>lel, the vote wasn't 100% of the population, so we'll drag our heels, fabricate polls to make it look like a fluke and point menacingly towards welfare cuts
>hey, time for another brexit vote, let's see how it comes out now
It'll be the same as the Heathrow thing, the government will just have studies and committees made to delay having to actually do anything. And if we ever do make it out, it'll be well after Merkel sends us a farewell gift of 5 million Turks.
>>73879769
Putin said the Scottish referendum had plenty of chances to fake the vote. Don't think he outright called it a conspiracy though
>>73880048
It's politically binding. If they ignored an exit vote there'd be a vote of no confidence and the government would be finished.
>>73869786
RARE
>>73880137
The SNP got 48% of votes in the general election in Scotland. That's basically all the independence voters (accounting for lower turnout).
Who are you to say something similar won't happen to UKIP? Even 30% in FPTP would hand them hundreds of seats.
>>73879917
>SNP calling for another referendum
> "T-T-The first one was just a warmup!"
Fucking twats.
>>73880048
No referendum can ever be truly legally binding in this country because parliament is fundamentally sovereign. However ignoring a leave vote would fucking end the current political class and government.
>>73868426
Fuck the crown,
Fuck the gubmint
Fuck the jews
Double fuck Obama
Fuck the TTIP
Fuck the EU
Vote leave
>>73868426
>lol don't bother voting the leave, it's pointless
>we can't leave
>all the powers don't want to us to leave
>your vote is pointless
>just stay at home
>they will rig the vote anyway
Getting scared, remain shill?
>>73880193
If they drag their feet their own backbenches (and most of the tory grassroots too) will be up in arms.
>>73880048
There's no such thing as a binding referendum in the UK or here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty
>>73869075
>We don't have influence anyway,
What is the veto?
>>73868747
If they ever started getting power hungry and ignoring democracy it would be time to start chopping off royal heads like the old days
>>73880206
Ah you mean like the non binding Dutch referendum about Ukraine agreement?
Or the Lisabon Treaty referendum? Do you remember the vote of no confidence which happened back then? Well neither do I.
>>73880468
The Royal heads are the sane ones. The democratically elected ones are the problems.
>>73880192
they'll have you believe it's 50/50 because muh fairness, muh politics, when actually I bet it's more like 75-25 in favour of brexit. But that would completely wreck the globalist political and financial establishment, our overlords don't want this. So, they will skew the results and say something like 51-49 remain.
>>73880435
The EU has ruined parliamentary sovereignty here, everyone who signed us up are fucking traitors.
>>73880564
Different political situations here. Half of the government's MPs back leaving, Cameron's backbenchers have him by the balls. So them ignoring a leave vote would cause snap elections after a vote of no confidence.
And the 51% of leave voters would be outraged and elect a pro-leave parliament easily due to FPTP.
>>73880590
as are anyone advocating we stay
The one and only reason I don't want to leave is the idea that I'm trapped on this fucking island for the rest of my life if we do leave. Currently, as a European citizen I have the freedom to move to another country to work and live for the rest of my life, right? The thought of actually being trapped here is terrifying. This shithole is becoming a fucking police state, I don't really care what the benefits are of leaving, I just don't want to be trapped.
>>73880577
I wonder who these voters are, I don't know a single person who's voting to remain.
Maybe they're asking 15 year old girls in the polls.
>>73875819
According to Michael Gove. Who is a fucking retard,
>>73880840
Why would you possibly be "trapped" there, Pascal?
Lets also not forget, SNP, Green, Lib dems, Scottish labour and plaid cymru want to remain.
Brexit just won't, can't happen.
>>73869207
Because the 'Conservatives' didn't expect to win and have to deliver. It's as simple as that.
>>73880840
>This shithole is becoming a fucking police state
So is the whole EU you dumbass.
And emigration isn't hard outside the EU
>>73880840
Well anon after BREXIT you could do something sensible like getting a VISA as you would subsequently be required to get.
If you want off the police state, get experience/education in a respected field and emigrate. It really won't be difficult
>>73880894
Londoners, middle class cosmopolitans and the like.
Most of the people at my uni are like this, they all live in Hertfordshire and Tunbridge Wells away from the immigration ruining public services and none of them have had a low paid job in their lives.
>>73880994
>Green, Lib dems, Scottish labour and plaid cymru
Meme parties
>>73869314
Apparently it was a desperate election promise and at the time an out vote was highly unlikely. And then things started to heat up in Europe
>Scottish
>want to leave the EU and remain in the UK
>if we leave then another independence referendum will be held as most Scots are pro-EU
>Scotland will leave the UK
>Scotland will rejoin the EU
>my smile and optimism will disappear
>>73880293
right and I guess UKIP will never demand another referendum if the result in a few weeks is a close IN vote
>>73881059
No wonder, we've had some snobby uni types here but they don't last long.
>>73880994
>Brexit just can't happen.
t. internationalist commie
>>73881059
This, I know people like this from well off middle class families who don't think it will affect them.
The youth in this country are the ones that will suffer the most by staying in the EU.
>>73880840
Yeah mate it's impossible for citizens of any other country to leave their homeland right?
>>73881054
>get experience/education in a respected field and emigrate
Is comp sci a "respected" field?
>>73881009
Get back to sucking Mohammed's dick traitor.
>>73881059
This. Lived with a Herfordshire guy during BSc days and he was the most reactionary, insecure, leftist I know. Whenever questioned or challenged he would get huffy.
Went to school in T.Wells and unfortunately most friends from there are remainers except for the one guy who actually has a job.
>>73881279
it was agreed upon before the whole syrian migrant thing got massive
>>73881308
>Brexit just can't happen.
He's right though, as much as I hate to say it. Actually leaving would be miraculous as the forces keeping us in are too great especially when combined with the scaremongering and the fact that in general people will stick to the devil they know.
>>73881388
are you a british """"expat"""" who is pro-brexit?
>>73881438
The only miracles are the ones you make.
>>73881388
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>>73881308
I think the big problem is "smart" people are too idealistic. They think the EU can be fixed, they think the refugees will be taught how to have western values and will suddenly fit in and stop treating women and gays like shit. They think everyone is as good natured as they are.
They don't see humans for what they really are.
>>73881515
And believe me, I'm doing all I can. It wont be enough though.
>>73868426
>the monarchy wants us to stay in
Stopped reading there.
>>73878892
my favourite is "RECESSION" we're already in it.
>>73881351
Two choices
>leave EU
>chance to vote for parties not making this place worse
>stay in EU
>UK will join joint police data sharing with EU
>inevitable joint EU federal policing
>Germany literally arresting people for anti-rapefugee posts on facebook and will be in charge of our law enforcement
>>73881059
I originally come from Hertfordshire.It's actually a VERY anti immigrant area in the south of the county. BNP were in control for a few years. Funny enough the government supplanted a huge turkish population to the area. Now the town centre i grew up in isn't even recognizable and, funny story, the vote results are very different.
>>73880293
As an Englishman, I support this. I hope they keep holding referendums until they leave.
Scotland and it's unified leftist voting bloc is responsible for most of what's blighted Blighty over the last couple of decades, from Nu Labour to Multiculti to No-Gunz laws.
They're a tiny population but they act as kingmakers for the far Left because they vote consistently left in an otherwise centrist country.
>>73868426
>Why? Because the votes won't be counted fairly.
>Vote leave, vote remain, or don't vote at all.
Basically. If the EU doesnt like the voting results, they'll just ignore it and keep making you vote until they get the right result.
>>73881351
I'm sure you could find someone to hire you. You could get a general work visa, go abroad, and find a company that would sponsor a full time visa.
>>73881444
More of a part-time expat. Doing an applied postgraduate degree here before either moving abroad for work or
back to UK. Very much Pro-Brexit
>>73881526
>They think everyone is as good natured as they are.
that is the main problem, they think if we are nice to them, they will be nice to us
fucking morons
>>73881438
He's not right though. It's a silly statement to say Britain leaving literally could never happen, and to imply sinister forces will essentially break the law and rig the vote and that you seem happy to accept it is the kind of limp cuck mentality that got us into this mess in the first place. Anything is possible and any system can be brought down. Over the years kings and queens have lived lives of luxury and wielded supreme power and then in an instant they are on the end of a rope because of a couple of million very pissed off peasants.
>>73881688
czeched
altering the demographics is treason, especially when done to maintain power against the wishews of the people
>NON
>BINDING
topkek
>>73878741
They got slaughtered, then of the ones who escaped a whole load got hanged afterwards until in the kings "mercy" they stopped killing people associated with it. They got slaughtered cause they were too uppity after marching on london, kept asking for more until the mayor of london just started killing people
>>73882111
Taking him literally is retarded and you know full well that that's not what I was doing. 'Brexit' MUST happen eventually because nothing lasts forever but the fact remains that the chances of us leaving as a result of this vote is next to none. I'm not happy at all to accept it but it doesn't matter how happy I am about it when all I can do is vote and try and convince others to vote to leave.
>>73868426
How'd you think the Mayor of London got in? It only takes a few percent in vote manipulation to change the result.
>>73868426
I'm sad for you. Still, vote at least it will show there were some who resisted.
>>73875037
The eu puts up barriers to trade with africa, severely damaging african economic potential
and somehow we are the racists for wanting to leave the EU so we can trade with the world freely
The EU is a white supremacist organisation
Have some OC lads.
won't it be just like the scottish referendum.
MI6 will justify that leaving the EU is a "threat to the well-being of the UK" or some shit and rig the vote
>>73883556
I just found out one of my best friends is part of the Cuckservative Campaign to Remain.
Lads, what should I do?
>>73883739
disagree with him
>>73883739
Beat the shit out of him
OR
Get him to spill insider info
>>73883404
>The EU is a white supremacist organisation
that is trying to genocide Whites
they're mental
>>73883793
Mad man
>>73868426
If Britain wants to stand any chance of remaining British, you need to vote to leave. And if the votes are rigged, March down to your 100 seaports, and the Chunnel, with your plastic butter knives and rifles from 1845 and keep the invaders at bay.
If you don't, Britain is lost and what 7 centuries of Muslim invasions couldn't accomplish will be made possible by liberal scum who are more afraid of words than of bullets.
>>73868426
But vote to leave anyway, so you can tell your grandkids you're not the reason they are sitting in a barbed wire fenced reservation amid the stinking islamic remains of what was once Great Britain.
>>73883995
The vote wont be rigged, despite what some retards on /pol/ will inevitably claim but we'll not end up voting to leave anyway because people will tend to stick with the devil they know (especially when they're being told that the four horsemen of the apocalypse will descend on them if they don't).
>>73881618
>>Germany literally arresting people for anti-rapefugee posts on facebook and will be in charge of our law enforcement
Mate, the UK is already the worst in the world when it comes to prosecuting people for being mean on the internet.
>>73868426
we had all that shit with the ukraine treaty and we still got a NO out of it and the government is currently being sued because they want to ignore it.
just vote leave, you have nothing to lose (BUT YOUR CHAINS)
>>73868747
>theguardian.com
>considering
>reportedly
>believed to be
oh wow its fucking nothing
I'm gonna vote to stay so I can keep playing the Euromillions. I mean, they said we can still play it if we leave, but if we win we'd get taxed out the ass like if you won the American Powerball.
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>>73880435
don't bother
>>73874249
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>>73882223
ah, it's you again
stop shilling for the EU, faggot
>>73868915
Agreed, time for a House of Mosley. King Max Mosley will lead us to glory.
>>73884848
Monarchies a shit, we should all become republics
>>73880676
>britain votes leave
>hameron and co overturn the decision and stay anyway
>massive unrest
>mass defections to UKIP
and this is how nigel farage will be the next prime minster
>>73868426
>'Vote leave, vote remain, or don't vote at all. It's already been decided.'
Threads like this border on defeatist shilling. By all means be mentally prepared for a stay vote, but trying to discourage efforts to sway popular opinion? That's just fucking shilling.
We should make every effort to ensure the vote is to leave, and by the look of polls right now, we have the momentum and in many polls we're pulling ahead, we also have the turnout advantage. I don't believe there's some conspiring third party that can manipulate votes in the UK system, nor do I believe the establishment is as unified or as powerful as you do.
I know people like you love to be the harsh realists when it comes to big political issues, but then again, you were probably the ones who said Trump didn't have a chance of becoming the Republican nominee, let alone having a chance of becoming the US president.
>>73868426
The monarchy have expressed doubts over the EU
The government have been fucking us over
The IMF has absolutely 0 credibility
Obama is a faggot leftist
TTIP are corrupt and hunting for money
The EU are unelected bureaucrat leftist cunts
OUT
>>73884898
'no'
>>73884917
you forget
>government sued for not following the referendum
>government falls and elections happen
>UKIP wins
>>73884966
>wanting your tax dollars to fund some faggots that don't do anything and just get free front row tickets to sports events all the time
>not wanting to elect your leaders and have them be accountable to the people
fuck you, asshole
>>73884748
>>73884814
Oh god the photoshop autist again
How is your TTIP referendum going on, got 600.000 signatures already? When you will show again your middle finger to EU on completely not-EU-sponsored-and-initiated referendum? So nice to know there is true democracy somewhere
>>73885031
>wanting to be ruled by Oligarchs and ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''democracy'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' rather than by quintessential Britons
>>73874121
https://youtu.be/J9rvjdB-VRc
>Post the Brexit movie on Reddit
>get suspended for "Vote Manipulation"
Fucking hell i cannot wait to hang all the Left from the rafters
>>73885105
>the royal family
>brits
you haven't been ruled by brits since the french took over
>>73885073
>photoshop autist
nigga, anyone can check this shit for themselves, idiot
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>>73885199
>the royal family
>brits
Take that back.
>>73884965
Please be the first domino, Britain.
>>73882838
>the chances of us leaving as a result of this vote is next to none
Still a retarded statement when the opinion polls have been so close. If you are implying some kind of corruption and rigging then I'd like to hear what evidence you have for this.
>>73868426
If we remain, I'm going to work my ass off and move to America. It's not perfect but it'll be much better than remaining here while everything burns and being forced to taste Ahmed's brown semen.
Any tips for people like me looking to get out? Specifically to America as I actually know people there.
>>73885269
the first domino fell long ago
>>73885245
>the royal family
>western european
top kek, at least we're ruled by germans
If it is rigged and you vote out you've done the best you could do in that situation, and paid only a short amount of time to do it.
If it isn't rigged and you don't vote out, you've lost a once in a lifetime chance to push your country and possibly the rest of the continent in what is hopefully the right direction.
tldr: go vote leave even if you think its rigged, fgt
>>73885341
go to mexico
waltz over the border
hope trump doesn't win
bonus tip: change your name to something mexican, claim racism if they try and deport you
>>73885199
Why are you ignoring my question? Are you angry because the TTIP referendum got only 149'000 sigantures of the required 600'000. Well guess the majority of Dutch people aren't stupid like you and know exactly that's just a waste of tax money.
You can cry as much as you want. You'll stay in EU for your lifetime. And you will embrace Islam and multiculture. Your daughter will wear the hijab. Every morning she will face herself to Mekka and say "Allah Akbar". Enjoy your life :^)
>>73885589
Do you really need money this desperately?
I thought Swiss GDP was fairly high
>>73885708
>le conspiracy theory
I'm just smart. Unlike you I know what is good for our people and for the future. Meanwhile you worthless weaboo neet are hoping that you get back the """Dutch Empire""" and """save the white race""". How about you go out and get a job instead sitting in your basement the whole day.
Glad that you faggots don't have actual democracy. Another proof that low class citizens are just too stupid and don't understand politics.
>>73885708
the greed of the eternal mountain jew knows no bounds
>>73885031
>wanting your tax dollars to fund some faggots that don't do anything and just get free front row tickets to sports events all the time
Are you stupid and Jewish? Because the royal family put more into the government coffers than they receive.
>not wanting to elect your leaders and have them be accountable to the people
>elected leaders
>accountable
That's a laugh. A monarch is accountable. A politician can sod off after they're wrecked the joint.
>>73885520
>white guy crosses the border
>"soy jose"
with the most militant pacifist liberal will want to execute you on site. they have intense hatred for white men when I lived there.
>>73886083
nothing a bit of fake tan can't solve
the colour of your skin is the only thing that matters to a lib, the darker the better
>>73885980
what is good for your people and your future is shitposting on the internet?
>>73886051
>Are you stupid and Jewish? Because the royal family put more into the government coffers than they receive.
No they don't.
>A monarch is accountable. A politician can sod off after they're wrecked the joint.
A politician can be forced to resign or removed from their position. They can be sued or they can fail in upcoming elections.
Monarchs rule for life or until they abdicate. There is no accountability at all.
On one hand I want to see UK leave so that Europes power collapses
On the other hand, I like the idea of Brits suffering for getting into the EU in the first place, and would enjoy seeing them stay in
Either way its a win
>>73886254
t. Pedro Gonzalez
build the wall, faggot
>>73877853
Actually Obama fucked off alot of the neutral party by using a scripted response by the government trying to convince the general populace to vote in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYA7bQGbtiw
Actual American citizens use the word 'Line' which emphisizes this point further.
Also the EU has failed to make trade deals with America as well as China, India, Russia and many other Nations and countries since it's beginning which isn't particularly good because the United Kingdom is one of the larget overal traders WITH America despite not having any trade agreement.
The whole thing about Globalization is that it is counter-intuative to what the current EU represents, A walled garden that limits and prohibits trade and movement of any peoples outside of said union.
>>73886237
Netherland will stay in the EU.
UK will stay in the EU.
And with that said, this discussion is ended.
>>73886418
>Dutch government is currently being sued over their ignorance of the referendum
>polls say most people want to leave the EU
>Brexit is gaining traction
The EU is collapsing. I don't understand why a Swiss, who isn't even in the fucking EU, would try to maintain the illusion that the EU is doing fine
But I guess money talks
>>73886237
>No they don't.
Yea? Could you point out how you know better than the British government about that? Specifically how the Royal family give their entire income of ~£240m every year to parliament, and in return recieve a wage (for the lot of them) of $30m.
>A politician can be forced to resign or removed from their position.
So? That's not accountable. That just replaces them with the next dropkick to fuck things up.
>They can be sued or they can fail in upcoming elections.
The former requires them to have done something illegal, and the latter is no punishment at all.
>Monarchs rule for life or until they abdicate. There is no accountability at all.
They are entirely accountable as they're the ones solely responsible. They're the ones who will be kneeling at the guillotine if they screw up.
>>73880338
>Fuck the crown
No thanks mate, they're against EU.
>>73886326
Open your wifes legs, EUboy :^)
