Can an atheist explain to me how atheism is NOT a tool of NWO and Globalists?
Please convince me atheism is anything other than cultural destruction.
>>73771592
They can't. Atheism makes morality subjective and can't lead to objective reasoning which they always pride themselves on being science folk who love to tinker and study. They are the people of reason and logic(TM) and they know how to throw tantrums and have long winded rants that lack any substance against Christianity.
Their worldview; metaphysical materialism is a failure.
It gave us communism, socialism, sexual liberation, multiculturalism, feminism and hedonism.
Atheism is literally a Jewish trap and you're an idiot for not realizing this.
>>73771680
setting aside all that, heh... it's destroying cultural heritage.
Funny because religion is inherently globalist.
Like every fucking muslim or christian invader or explorer, always trying to convert everything they find.
Fucking globalists
>>73771592
>Abandoning myths is cultural destruction rather than cultural replenishment
top kek
also, there's nothing wrong with globalism, and it is what will reign in the near future.
Pic related, or in words: because globalism is a secular version of the Abrahamic ideal
>>73771827
>muslim or christian invader
>christian invader
More like the bringer of light and civilization
Muslims bring nothing but sand dindu nuffins
>>73771680
I am an atheist that is against communism, socialism, sexual liberation, multiculturalism, feminism, and hedonism. I respect other cultures/beliefs (except Islam) and never get into arguments about it.
>>73771592
this ID
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>atheism is the tool of NWO and globalists
>not the groups of people literally dedicated to giving money to their local "spiritual leaders" (Jews) and convincing more people to do the same
Can Christcucks even come up with a more backwards argument?
>>73771592
>people believing in magic sky daddy is not a tool of control
>tool of the globalists
>the fucking Pope washing feet of mudslimes
>>73771592
nwo are satanists. nwo believes in god. god aint real. nwo is gay
>>73771592
You can have good values without theism.
>>73771827
Look at Scandinavia, Germany, your own country
All have thrown the gates open to the third world hordes
>>73771935
t. town rapist
>>73771922
>implying vatican 2 supporters are christians
Nice joke
>>73771592
You're confusing it with liberalism.
I'm an atheist, but I can't stand that liberal faggot amazing atheist. I can't stand collectivist retards who think their belief is the best, because that's why I called bullshit on religion to begin with. I just follow the non aggression principle and can only hope religious people do the same, and for the large part they do. Christians are mostly decent people, I've been around them all my life. It's just something about being threatened that you're going to burn in hell if you don't believe. So black and white, so wrong sounding.
aimless retards will lie to you and themselves that you can't have morals without some religious spook righting it out for you in crayon, but literally no one needed to teach me that hurting people is wrong.
>>73771827
>>73772251
*and all highly atheist
>>73772149
>my money is all i care
let go
>>73771592
>cultural destruction
>not realising christianity is a literal immigrant religion from the middle east
you people abandoned your true cultural strong alpha pagan gods to worship a sand kike
>>73772149
Just look at the people pushing for open borders. They are the leftists and atheism is a major part of leftism, you'd be hard pressed to find an avowed leftist who isn't also an atheist
fuck atheists are getting triggered hard af ITT
enjoy your NWO sanctioned thought guidelines, wouldn't want you to be exposed to messy non conformist ideas.
>>73772326
well our pagan gods weren't there when Christianity expanded
so we had to accept our salvation from Christ.
>>73772326
Christianity is the religion of Rome
Europe and the Anglosphere boomed under Christianity and all have fought major wars against Muslims, Christians in Europe fought for centuries to keep them out
And now that Europe has turned to atheism look what has happened
They have thrown open the gates to the barbarians
>>73772326
Christianity is from the near east and it blended seamlessly with europe considering it was tailored to local traditions.
>sand kike
We were all atheists out of the womb. Atheism is the default mindset, the zero sum.
religions however need to be made (up), so obviously someone's bullshitting. You ate other dickhead's shit anon? some pope or dingbat preacher's blabbering? Pigs with the words of god indeed...it's friggin cavemen nature to invent some mumbo-jumbo to explain how things work. Who cares?
>>73771592
It is culturally decontructive in the sense that all cultures have been religious. I would say being an aetheist means there is a void to fill. For me its love of my family and race.
>>73772326
>Not believing in Joseph Prince's lies
>>73772425
turn the other cheek and spread your ass
>>73772466
>near east
aka mudslime
As an atheist, i admit it's indeed a tool from Globalists/NWO.
But atheism is the correct way to go *for me*. I totally admit there should be some form of religion to keep all the morons in the world from going on kill sprees. We all know there are people like that.
So, yeah, it actually pains me to see that atheism is a NWO shill method
>atheist
>correct priorities
Want to try that again?
>>73772648
>turn the other cheek and spread your ass
Not an argument
>>73771680
The moral objectivity of slaves is nothing to beat your hairless chest about mate.
>>73772150
>>73772149
if Christianity is a tool of the nwo/globalist/jews why do nwo/globalist/jews like soros and his femen puppets put so much effort into eradicating it?
>>73772544
i think for most atheists, the void is filled with calories, i've never met an atheist who wasn't fat as shit
>>73772746
On the subject of chests,
I have a hairy chest
Am I white?
>>73772532
>2016
>mindlessly following Descartean dualist mythology from the 17th century
>>73771592
im agnostic
>>73772777
>america
>everyone is fat as shit
fuck off cucktian
>>73771775
Cucktianity is literally a Jewish trap and you're an idiot for not realizing this.
>>73772648
>>near east
>aka mudslime
read a history book
>>73772657
respectable, I think atheism can exist at a certain percentage in society and still be healthy, but too much and human dignity in that society suffers.
Turn the other cheek cuctians and accept the migrant hordes.
>>73771592
Atheism happens when you do not get indoctrinated by radical ideologists. If it weren't for parents indoctrinating their kids religion would be dead already.
>>73771592
jesus was a jew :D
>>73773038
highly ironic from Germany
>>73771592
Thing is, religion is just as much of a tool.
It honestly doesn't matter what you believe, the NWO will find a way to turn it against you. That's their specialty. They're extremely efficient at what they do and have had a very long time to perfect their craft.
>>73772864
not related. very northern people are hairy as well as very southern. alpine middle europeans are less hairy, if you are not hairy at all you are probably a nigger or asian
>>73771592
I feel sorry for atheists tbhwy
They build their whole lives around not believing something
I guess that's why some feel the need to attack others' beliefs
>An entire group of people, X, can be represented by one label, Y.
All Muslims are terrorists.
All Christians believe that the earth is 600 years old.
All atheists are overweight and wear silly hats.
All of these statements are equally retarded for the same reason.
>>73771592
NWO wants people as docile and obedient to authority as possible
aka religious :^)
>>73773061
>>73772969
nope, Jesus was Judean Israeli, not a Pharisee
>>73772466
>>73773142
But at the same time they want people not united over single idea aka not religious
let's be honest religion unites people more than any other idea
You'll find a lot in God,but who did he talk to?
>>73773037
cucktianity is a liberal jewish plot now but athiesm is also just a preparation for pure unbridled liberalism
islam is the true redpill
>>73773182
could you explain the difference
>>73773071
>germany xd
our christians are the most cucked people in the country with Merkel (daughter of a pastor) being the queen of the degenerates. This is what happens when you put indoctrinated christian children in positions of power, they fuck up everything for their retarded semitic ideology.
>>73773126
O okay, I just don't want to be mistaken for an Arab or T*rk
Muh heritage is British isles and German and French I was just worried that those people might not be so hairy since I've never been there
>>73773250
you don't have many Christians. Merkel is not a Christian.
>>73773248
can you read?
>>73771961
Same. This whole idea that if you're athetist you instantly bow to every liberal opinion
>>73772889
I get it. It ain't making me mad but I get it
Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit another mans child.
>>73771592
Atheism as a philosophical position is a viable option only for the most elite of us, who are moral and strong enough to resist their low urges to succumb to hedonism etc... Of course, when you truly believe that "there is no God", "there is no objective truth" etc... then you have right to choose any lifestyle you want. But, as I say, only the best of us are able to choose a noble, non-degenerate lifestyle even in spite of this.
On the other hand plebs need some kind of
organized religion driven from above, some kind of objective moral values imposed from above. Masses are stupid. We all know it. Without (noble) religion they succumb to hedonism, degeneration and are prone to fall for other organized BS like consumerism (which is de facto religion too) and so on...
So, I say - it doesn't matter if a religion is "true" or not, if there is God, if there has ever been Jesus or any figure... the important is what religion causes. And I say that some kind of religion is NEEDED in order to keep society in order.
Mass atheism destroys everything. And I say that as an atheist.
>being a christcuck because you dislike atheism rather than believe g-d exists
hmmm
>Atheism as a philosophical position is a viable option only for the most elite of us, who are moral and strong enough to resist their low urges to succumb to hedonism etc... Of course, when you truly believe that "there is no God", "there is no objective truth" etc... then you have right to choose any lifestyle you want. But, as I say, only the best of us are able to choose a noble, non-degenerate lifestyle even in spite of this.
>On the other hand plebs need some kind of
>organized religion driven from above, some kind of objective moral values imposed from above. Masses are stupid. We all know it. Without (noble) religion they succumb to hedonism, degeneration and are prone to fall for other organized BS like consumerism (which is de facto religion too) and so on...
>>73773705
>g-d
Hmmm
>>73773652
Patriotism will do that. Youre right about the nihlistic decadence of the atheistic masses.
>>73773825
>falling for such obvious bait
Good goyi- I mean, roachie
I don't believe in any religion but I think it's really stupid to believe that there isn't some kind of "God".
If you can believe reality is a simulation you can believe in beings so higher in reality they're literally omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient.
>>73772648
>Arguing with a cuck, NWO-puppet pope.
Not an argument.
with all the globalisation and shit going on, it is essential that people divide themselves into groups of believers or not. looking at the us, how many "movements" they have, its just hilarious that people kill and hate each other for the sole purpose and idea of being "right" by being controlled by the very same people that control the other "movements"... divide and rule..
>>73771680
Inherent objective morality does not exist. All morality is subjective. When early modern humans first decided that killing is wrong, even though it is so prevalent in nature, they took one of the first steps in creating this form of "objective" morality. Offcourse no matter how hard they tried to enforce this view, not everyone saw it their way.
And since then our collective view on morality has slowly changed with the times, then we incorporated it into all kinds of religions, including the abrahamic ones. There are many groups of people that still have different views of morality today. Bottom line is the whole concept of morality is, and will always be subjective and ever changing over large periods of time.
>>73771775
Yeah, these famous atheist like the fat Hitchens and Sam Wilson are Zionist Neocohens.
>>73771961
This accurately describes me.
Despite this, I call myself 'politically left',though that has started to fade.
Religion is stupid, unnecessary,and what the jews and muslims do. Not for me thanks.
>>73771592
Atheism is just the rational rejection to the hypothesis that there's a god, typically this is based on its lack of evidence provided by theists.
Atheism is simply a single position of belief, it's not a tool in any way, to suggest so is to lack understanding of what atheism means.
>>73774527
>Atheism is simply a single position of belief, it's not a tool in any way, to suggest so is to lack understanding of what atheism means.
The left sure does use it as a tool to undermine traditional values and attack Western culture
>>73774032
Truth determines how humans should act in order to survive. Righteousness, morality, the paths of life God ordained, protect and shield the community, allowing society to thrive and grow and advance. This is the way God set up the universe, to teach us about the truth.
>>73772251
>Germany
>thrown the gates open to the third world hordes
Are you talking aobut pastor's daughter Angela Merkel, head of the Christian Democratic Union?
>>73774604
>The left sure does use it as a tool to undermine traditional values and attack Western culture
Atheism is a belief, a belief cannot be used to attack something.
However if your values are based on something for which there is no evidence, then if you're a rational actor, you should be questioning the validity of your belief and how congruent that belief is with what we can observe and measure in reality.
If my morality was simply "paint everything pink", and that was inferred from a belief in the pink elephant sky god and his commandments. Would your lack of belief in the pink elephant sky god be an attack on my values?
>>73774032
morality is in fact objective simply because it is the human condition to seek to minimize the suffering of those around us. this benefits the social group and thereby the self. this should be pretty self evident by our nature as social creatures.
pretty simple if you actually bother to put the slightest thought toward it
>>73774981
>Atheism is a belief, a belief cannot be used to attack something
Funny cause they often are
Just look at Islam, it is a belief that is used to attack Western values just as atheism and a variety of other isms are used to attack everything from rich people to evolution
>>73773127
Do you actually think the character of that statement is honest and sincere?
Im curious.
I dont beleive the ocean is red.
Does that mean I build my whole life around not believing the ocean is red?
If you say the ocean is red,and I can very clearly see, in the same way that I can see that people DO and HAVE invented religions and gods, yet I can see that the ocean is not red,
I find it very typical of your religions position that saying that the ocean isn't red, which it clearly isnt, is an attack upon your delusion that the ocean is red.
Of course we're talling about something that can be proven, and proving no-god is proving a negative.
I know that god is most likely a human invention and I don't believe you if you say otherwise.
This does have a profound effect upon my life, but it doesn't build the foundations of it.
How does it feel to pray to god? I imagine its exactly the same as a dog looking at you pleadingly for that spare bit of food.
Even if god existed, I wouldn't worship him, and any being worthy of worship would neither want nor need such a display, but since you have an imaginary alpha, prostrate yourself before his mental image as much as you fucking like, but don't go fucking with science, education and the ability to learn critical thinking skills, which is all the Texas state EVER seems to do, from what I hear, in the name of religion.
>>73771592
Because Christianity is just in vain
>oh I better be good not just to be good, but to avoid the eternal time-put chair
People say atheists are selfish but Christians base their whole lives around acting good to get into an eternal paradise.
>>73775373
>Christians base their whole lives around acting good to get into an eternal paradise.
Nice stawman
>>73775373
>eternal paradise
Look at the demographics of Christianity. That's not a paradise, that's like a Brazilian Favelas - bur forever.
>>73775166
I do agree morality have helped us as a species to get to the point where we could evolve complex social structures, thus bring about progress. However, I don't think you know the difference between objecrive and subjective.
If morality were inherently objective, then it would in fact be a constant that never changes. The fact that it has changed over time and that people's opinions on what is morally right and wrong differs, means it is a subjective concept.
>>73771680
Don't forget hypertension
>Implying the desert jew religions are not promoting globalism and destruction of culture
>Their God literally told them to go and convert everyone to follow their religion and culture
inb4 funny hats
Was Joseph the original cuck and is god a black bull?
>>73775671
>south africa
How does it feel being the country that spawned Ntkozo Qwabe?
>>73771592
Every Atheist cuck please look at this to understand why Atheism is a tool of Globalists
>>73776292
>Was Joseph the original cuck and is god a black bull?
WE
>>73776499
WORSHIPPED
>>73774935
Merkel isn't a Christian
She's a DDR operative who was schooled by the KGB in subversion and demoralization tactics
The "father was le poor oppressed pastor" is part of the made up biography
>>73776385
Someone fell for the kike meme of constant growth.
>>73771961
What make islam worse than other cultures or beliefs? And please don't say the small small minority of extremists. Christians and Catholics have their fair share of nutters too
>>73776609
>Merkel isn't a Christian
>She's a DDR operative who was schooled by the KGB in subversion and demoralization tactics
She can be both.
>>73775238
People keep saying atheism is used to attack things, but this hasn't been demonstrated. It's like me saying well peoples belief that red heads look hotter than blondes therefore I must be attacking capitalism.
These things are completely disconnected.
Presumably what you mean is that value systems which you prefer and which are predicated on god and religion no longer make sense because the presupposition that god exists has been challenged and found wanting. Maybe that's a problem with your presuppositions.
Atheism which is lack of a belief in something simply cannot in of itself attack something.
>>73776646
>What make islam worse than other cultures or beliefs?
Polygamy.
>>73771592
>NWO and Globalists
>>73776717
Fair call
>>73776646
Shariah.
It is cultural destruction, but oh well. I was raised Catholic, but when I was made to read the Bible I couldn't understand how people thought it was real. Praying felt gross and fake, I felt like I was surrounded by brainwashed cult people. I was 7.
>>73776646
Are you kidding? Lurk /pol/ more. Look at the human rights records of Islamic countries. Look at the statistics on Islamic terrorist supporters. Look at how they treat apostates and people who go against the Koran in places where they're the majority.
Hell, even the assertion that "other religions have terrorists too" doesn't hold up, the vast majority of religious terrorism today comes from Islam. It's maintained the same mindset that it's had since 7th century.
>>73771592
refered as the 4 horsemen two of them are jewish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9RG7NYQa8k
>>73776684
Nope
USSR was expressly atheistic and hated religious people
>>73776686
Atheism is a religion; The God Delusion is its holy book, Dawkins the pope, Hitchens and Harris the cardinals
>>73777184
>Atheism is a religion; The God Delusion is its holy book, Dawkins the pope, Hitchens and Harris the cardinals
gr9 b9 m9 i r9 9/9 no h9
>>73776686
Atheism opens the door to moral relativism which is the destruction of fundamental principles.
>>73777184
She's not in the USSR anymore.
>Atheism is a religion; The God Delusion is its holy book, Dawkins the pope, Hitchens and Harris the cardinals
>>>/cringe/
>>73771592
I've been an atheist all my life. I didn't 'deconvert' or some bullshit because Dawkins convinced me to or fedoras shrank my brain. If the NWO/Globalists could get to someone at childbirth then you have no hope in stopping them anyway.
>>73776646
>small small minority of extremists.
I like you Straya. You'll be beheaded last.
>>73777262
People who are atheist from the early age have some sort of "immunity" to this particular NWO shilling. That shilling is aimed at people who are religious for all their lives and by promoting atheism NWO tries to make them disoriented, lost, and thus easy to control and point to other beliefs.
>>73777246
>Atheism opens the door to moral relativism which is the destruction of fundamental principles.
I think this frames this issues somewhat backwards. Without objective morality to begin with you have an open door to moral relativism and I would say that religion across the world was an attempt to set in stone morality and that it simply has failed.
Let's not pretend that religion was there first, that it's always existed throughout human history and it's somehow a core part of us, it's an invention of mankind to codify things like morality in an objective way.
Now what I would say is that as society becomes more complex, people become more educated and religion becomes more questioned by critical thinkers, atheism is going to go on the rise, and it's the fastest growing group in modern western socities, in the UK we do national cencus every 10 years and the last one in 2011 showed a 10% increase in non belief compared to the prior one in 2001 that's 15% non belief to 25% non belief. And the distribution of more belief in elders and less belief in young people lets us predict with high degrees of accuracy that the next cencsus will almost certainly show just as much growth in lack of religion, that's to say in 2021 we'll probably be looking at about 35% non religious possibly as high as 40%.
Objective secular moral systems do in fact exist, look the libertarians if you wnat a really good one, most of them take basic universal and objective principles such as the NAP (non aggression principle) and from there derive most of the currently allowed/disallowed behaviour (no rape, stealing, killing etc) and have a well reasoned world view. So to suggest you need religion for objective moraliy is just wrong, and i'd argue a non-sequitur anyway because religion has always been predicated on god which we lack evidence for.
>>73776965
I know how it is. I like Christianity. I like the customs and the history and the holidays and the values and the sense of community it brings and the motivation it gives people. I just don't believe it.
>>73776646
>And please don't say the small small minority of extremists
>>73777071
I admit im uneducated on islam, all relgions for that matter. I think they all fuck with people, to manipulate them towards a certain culture. Atheism i think points more towards logic which is a culture in itself, whether or not one agrees with it.
>>73771592
Dunno, M8. All I know is I'm from a broken home and have no real prospects, and Jesus sure as fuck didn't save me. If he's saved anyone, good on them. He's a useless cunt to me tho.
>>73778082
On the off chance you're not shitposting, you should know that Islam is by far the worst when it comes to imposing itself on others, the rest are benign by comparison.
>>73778278
Not sure Christians understand what dicks they are. I'll give it a pass because of ISIS tho.
Atheism exploited the hell out of religion to push it's agenda.
>be a major religion
>teach that degeneracy is wrong
>shills start pushing atheism
>science discovers massive downsides to degeneracy
>"those studies can't be true because degeneracy is only wrong because religion says so"
>this somehow makes sense to "enlightened" atheists
>studies disregarded
Remind me again how atheist liberalism isn't just the cult of Dawkins?
>>73778394
>science discovers massive downsides to degeneracy
>"those studies can't be true because degeneracy is only wrong because religion says so"
>this somehow makes sense to "enlightened" atheists
>studies disregarded
When did any representative of any religion ever argue with those studies?
>>73778336
Christians don't stone people to death, make other religions pay them a tax, enforce religious law as state law or endorse shit like honor killings, either.
>>73771680
The atheist argument about religion is that since religion stems from irrational thought, and by nature of its inherent irrationality, using reason to argue against it is utterly pointless. It's much more productive to simply state that you can't disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster thereby rendering all arguments pointless.
>>73771592
Think about history.
When there was a deep religious population, the church was kinda this thing what people call NWO today
>>73778566
They invade innocent nations, massacre millions of people, destroy the historic heritage of humanity, demand reparations of the people they just conquered, attempt to steal natural resources, and then blame it all on the people they just beat the crap out of.
That's Christian behavior.
Fuck Christianity, and whether you think he'd endorse it or not, fuck Christ. He brought about a sickening cult of fanatics who've never cared about what he said, just what they want.
Christians are dicks. The world would be better off without them, as it would be better off without most religions.
>>73778394
Be dawkins scientist never did anything in your life write god delusion
>prophet
>>73771592
There is no atheist religious leader telling all of his followers that it's their duty to let's millions of refugees inside all nations.
That's the Pope bitch.
>>73777671
I thought I was reading like a different Aesops Fables for morality parables, I got really confused when the adults told me it was real, and was quickly turned off. Also the original sin stuff, even at such a youn age, was very weird to me, like people wanted to willingly make the choice to feel guilty for actions they did not commit.
A lack of empathy for others, and wanting proof for everything probably never helped.
>>73778781
Blaming that on Christianity is retarded. You're describing shit people have been doing for thousands of years mostly in the name of nations, empires or themselves.
There's nothing in the Bible that says Christians should conquer the shit out of everyone.
>>73779092
You're asserting that Christians read the Bible.
I find that unlikely.
Besides, most of what Islamists do is not in the name of Allah, or the Quran, but politics.
You give an easy pass to your own side, but want to paint the other side with a wide brush.
Are you sure you're Christian? Because that sounds a bit Jewish.
>>73779204
I'm atheist if anything, I just see things for what they are. Christians may have done some sketchy things in the name of religion in the past but that's largely over and done with, the problems with Islam are still continuing.
And you're wrong, by the way; most of what drives Islamists is directly related to religion and the contents of the Quran, that's why they're fucking Islamists. Try telling someone in ISIS that they're doing it all in the name of politics, I'm sure they'll have a good laugh about it after they chop off your head.
>>73772777
As someone who grew up atheist, what I see is this. Deeply religious people value their own beliefs over local law. Atheists don't have this, you can't globally rule the world if all the people of that world believe in different unique higher powers above any government
>>73771592
>implying Christians can not be NWO globalists
>what is Latin America
>>73776646
>What make islam worse than other cultures or beliefs?
Expansionism. If they can conquer you they will. Never relax around Muslims you can only stop them by force. Arms race is not good thing for anyone.
>>73777246
Religion is definition of moral relativism. It was ok to own slaves and beat your wife, now is not but religion stayed the same in its title.
>>73771592
Yes
Because why do people make a "church" out of not being religious...
People here just say no to the church and tell them to get'em of their list. Don't join clubs and call them selves "atheists".
Commie shit, want to destroy cultural unity
