If you honestly believe Trump has a chance of turning either of these states red then you're beyond delusional and have absolutely no understanding of the current American political makeup.
Has that ever been an argument?
They're two liberal states. Of course he's not flipping them.
I've already accepted that he can't win.
It will ease the pain when Hillary takes it easily and parades around being the first woman and how progressive we all are.
>current American political makeup
Care to explain?
>>73757003
There was a thread earlier today and a lot of desperate Trump memers realized the odds were insanely stacked against him and had to do ridiculous goal post moving like having PA go red to have him win by the slightest margin.
It was really sad.
I think the source of a lot of the delusion comes from people that thing Sanders voters won't vote for Hillary.
They absolutely will to stop Trump.
The same can't be said about most Cruz and Kasich supporters.
>>73756913
New York is hopeless but PA can easily go red for trump
pic related
46,000+ Dems switched for Trump
Dems in a closed primary barely had more votes than Republicans
Latest polls show Hillary and Trump tied in PA
PA is certainly a possibility. Especially with Hillary's recent coal comments. PA is red outside philly
Pic related is the most optimistic Trump output and he will still lose.
>>73757478
Florida can go red you dummy
>>73757437
>>73757446
Pennsylvania is a solid blue state.
When will you guys stop this desperate meme.
>>73757173
The more niggers, spics, and jews there are, the more votes you get for Democrats. The more whites, the more votes you get for Republicans.
>>73757553
The only way he is getting Florida or Ohio is if he picks Kasich/Rubio.
He can't get both.
>>73757569
Not it isn't. Philadelphia is not the entire state
>in pa
>voting for hilary
take that nazis :)))))
>>73757478
Didnt Florida go red in the Bush v. Gore election?
>>73757569
>implying polls mean anything before the first debate
we haven't even started the general election campaign yet
Hell, Clinton hasn't even secured her own nomination
The FBI has yet to indict her for the email scandal, which is going to happen
Trump hasn't begun to pivot yet, he's going to be even more moderate
and god forbid we have a terrorist attack any time in the next 5 months, or the economy tanks, both of which would only help trump
Problem with PA is philadelphia. It's like all we WUZ kangz people
>>73757758
>Didnt Florida go red in the Bush v. Gore election?
Technically but in reality most people voted for a left leaning candidate.
Bush got a few hundred more votes than Gore. Nader of the green party, who is even more liberal than Gore, got several thousand votes.
If Nader hadn't run, Gore would have taken the state and won the presidency.
Florida has only gotten more liberal since
TL;DR It's a blue state
>>73757569
If it's solid why are the polls so close this far out? Do you live in PA? Everywhere outside philly and it's suburbs is Republican.
>Pennsylvania.
If he plays his cards right, there's a chance. It still leans blue but it's not nearly as solid as most of the Northeast.
>New York.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No but seriously, it COULD go red, but only in the event that Hillary fucks things up beyond any way yet reasonably foreseeable. I'm talking a tape leaking where she says "I fucking hate niggers and spics so fucking much." kind of fuck up.
>>73757569
>When will you guys stop this desperate meme.
We should ask you the same question.
Btw...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0Y21TN
>>73757688
>Not it isn't. Philadelphia is not the entire state
Except it literally is
>>73757638
He can definitely get Ohio without Kasich. After Hillary's retarded coal miner comments, Ohio hates her.
>>73756913
Trump can strategically reveal he is a far left socialist after the south has already cast their vote. He can claim it was all a joke (especially after making comments about "loving the poorly educated") and lefties will flock to vote for him because they LOVE HIPSTERS.
>>73757963
>this is what people who don't live in Florida actually believe
>>73758196
>after the south has already cast their vote.
What?
>>73758238
Want to back that up with facts like I did?
Those are the votes.
Those are the facts.
Nader was a spoiler candidate.
Literally nobody refutes this.
>>73757777
checking myself because no one else is
>>73758295
>Nader was a spoiler candidate.
And who the fuck is Jill Stein?
Go scour Google and then get back to me. History is repeating itself, thanks to the Green Party.
He needs Florida and Ohio AND Virginia AND North Carolina AND Colorado to win
He is not winning
>>73758333
Trips on them quads?
>>73758440
you know it senpai
The fact that Georgia is a battleground state proves trump can't win
>>73758421
>increasingly nervous man
Let me guess, you were ranting about "muh brokered convention" a few months ago...
I think you're forgetting the fact that..
A) Many democrats will stay home after Saint Bernie is denied the nomination.
B) Many will probably vote for Jill Stein (thanks largely to social media)
C) We don't even know what is going to happen between now and November, especially since only ONE of the major candidates is being investigated by the FBI.
>>73757777
so much delusion what a waste of quads
>>73757777
HOLY
>>73758333
FUCKING
>>73758499
SHIT
>>73757569
PAfag here, you can go fuck yourself. Philly and Pittsburgh are not the whole state.
>>73758019
>I fucking hate niggers and spics so fucking much
pic related for niggers.
And Trump already hit her with a crazy broadside over Cinco de Mayo. She called him a panderer while she marched out a fucking mariachi band.
It's gonna be Jeb all over again.
>>73758607
^^^^^
>>73758499
>>73758333
>>73757777
You're just fuckin' blessed by kek today, anon.
>>73757777
>>73758333
>>73758499
No one man should have all these dubs.
>>73758499
>>73758333
>>73757777
c-checked
>>73758653
How did Bill get so much pussy when he looks like an average dork?
>>73758755
What the fuck.
>>73758421
I think if he does well enough at the debates, maintains his high turnout, and overall national political discourse continues to shift to the right like it has been, that doesn't seem terribly unfeasible. In fact if things keep up the way they have been, I can easily see Pennsylvania going red, and Michigan's actually a lot more competitive than most people realize, given the continued decline of Detroit and Trump's unusually "high" support among black voters. In all honesty Virginia feels like the biggest stretch to me, as its demographics and political trends are largely working against Trump.
Who knows what the next several months could bring, I think people calling the election now for either candidate are getting way ahead of themselves.
>>73758611
>Philly and Pittsburgh are not the whole state
See >>73758088
No, not the whole state, just the overwhelming majority of it.
This is a blue state. Its one of the only states that has solidly voted blue for the last 30 years. Deal with it.
>>73758877
PA is turning red like WV did. You know nothing about our demographics. People used to vote Dems because of the unions. It only takes a small shift in the white vote.
>>73757777
>Clinton will be indicted
having this much delusion
>>73758911
AAAAAAA
Anything is possible in elections.
>>73758896
>Steelers
why tho?
>>73758911
>>73759022
WHAT
>>73759022
>>73756913
I hope he wins Maryland. The state would be red if it weren't for Baltimore
>>73759022
wew
>>73758295
Obama beat Romney in Florida in 2012 by less than 1%. Saying Florida is blue may be accurate by that pittance in the terms of presidential elections but the state itself is not, with Republicans controlling an overwhelming majority in the state house, senate and governorship.
>>73757478
Florida will go red way before Colorado, Iowa, Virgina, or Ohio will.
>>73758944
you have your head in the sand
her whole staff is being deposed by the FBI
they actually offered IMMUNITY to someone to spill the beans
the other day, one of her aides walked out of an interrogation because they started asking about something protected by attorney-client privilege
Just today, Clinton tried to downplay it by calling it a "security inquiry", to which the FBI director said, "i dont know what that is, we do investigations. this is an investigation."
There has been too much press around this, and it's already a fact that 2,000 emails contained classified info. Guccifer was just in the news claiming he personally hacked her phone.
Basically, she's fucked, and just because cuck-bernie refuses to attack her on it doesn't mean it's going away
>>73758019
Trump is playing the strategy of Giuliani vs Dinkins. Dinkins was a nog in NYC. So all nogs were for him, all spics were for him. Basically all the minorities. He lost hard in NYC. NY fucking City. Do you know why? Because the Unions turned on Dinkins. Trump is playing into unions theme. The dems count vaginas and races that will vote for, and assume the working class union voters for granted. If she loses unions, there is going to be a landslide. She is definitely losing NY then. PA, and all the other rust belt states. Maybe even Chicago & IL. All those states are unions heavy states. He is winning the unions. That is the deathblow to the Dems. Nogs and special snowflakes don't carry the elections. Unions do.
>>73756913
Lol! You're pic looks exactly like a silhouette of le merchant.
>>73759362
holy shit. cannot unsee.
You are so delusional that I'm embarrassed to have the same flag as you.
Hillary literally just needs Virginia, and it's game over. Not to mention that she is leading in the polls of every so called swing state.
B-but, muh PA is a solid blue state!
>>73757569
What do you think matters more, polls or actual statistics/numbers/votes?
Fact is, if you look at the Primary numbers, Trump has a really good chance at making PA go Red. Not only that but we haven't even had the first debate yet. Just wait.
>>73759215
you bet buddy just hang in there any day now it'll happen just remember though its not a scandal till someone gets in trouble......
>>73757777
check'd
>>73759520
Look how "red" Virginia is. Obama won the state. The greatest populations are concentrated in the cities which vote for Democrats.
>>73759520
It is.
![dcp_nny2013_areas_of_origin_pct[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BMdyqYq.jpg "dcp_nny2013_areas_of_origin_pct[1].jpg")
>>73757003
PA isn't. It's just 3 cities, and the majority of the democrats are blacks, who probably won't vote this time around because king nig isn't running. PA is full of old white people who vote Trump. He's had the highest turn out in PA out of any Republican, as a percentage and numerically.
NY is probably never going to flip again. Not even for Trump, whose homestate is there. It's just impossible unless you deal with NYC, which has a racial make up looking like this.
Trump's only chance of flipping it is in his second term.
>>73756913
>>73759487
again, you're taking PA for granted.
the fucking Obama-Romney turnout model is nowhere near relevant for this election
Democrats broke turnout records with obama, because of le first black president meme
Black turnout was historically high, as was democratic turnout in general
this year, it's depressed. Meanwhile, it's republicans who are shattering their records.
10.9 M people voted for trump in the primary so far. That's a record. 15 Million people voted for other conservatives.
Trump has much better chance at winning than any other candidate. And VA and PA are not guaranteed, because Hillary excites no one.
>>73757569
>latest poll is +1 for Clinton
>another has a tie
>solid blue state
hmm
>>73756913
I live in NY. I lived in some of the most liberal places, like in Ithaca, and I've been to Westchester, which is full of mansions and people driving to them in Priuses with Bernie stickers on them. But I've also been in the shitty towns in NY and PA no one goes to where the commercial district is a half empty strip mall and a McDonalds. If Bernie remains in the race with Hillary.... Trump will turn NY.
If Trump wins 45% of the Philly suburbs, he wins the state. I'm not concerned at all. The entire middle of the state is red. Romney did 40% of Philly suburbs. If Trump wins the extra 5% he wins. No one on here knows anything about Demographics.
Why is it that some states can essentially be controlled by one or two cities, but some states can avoid it?
Texas and Georgia have cities like Austin and Atlanta, but are consistently red.
>>73756913
I stopped being retarded about NY (I will still vote for Trump here regardless), but PA is absolutely up for grabs. Especially with Clinton dropping spaghetti about putting coal miners out of business.
She's fucking done. Especially with recent polls with Trump ALREADY gaining on her? I've always said he hasn't even started on her, but he really hasn't even started on her. God damn I cannot wait for the first debates. It is going to be destructive.
>>73759198
All of those will go red, with maybe Iowa as the exception. Colorado will definitely flip if Trump says he will do nothing to their weed. Virginia is tough, he needs to flip a couple of districts in NOVA. Ohio won't vote for Shillary because of how she disparaged them.
>>73759588
...
>>73759022
Show must go on
>>73760000
Oh god, holy fuck I did not mean to do that.
>>73759577
this much delusion
>>73759938
Demographics usually. In Texas, Austin is the containment center for all the libtards (Dallas and Houston are kind of blue too as cities usually are, but not as much as Austin). Everyone else is very conservative and we all way outnumber Austin (unlike say Detroit in Michigan). It also helps that Republicans have gerrymandered Austin for years.
>>73760069
It's too late.
>>73759758
I could see NY flipping if a major terrorist attack happens
You people don't understand what makes a state blue. It's unions. You win unions, you win a state. That's why non unionized states are red. That's why he courts the working class and ignores racial and sexual preferences of the voter. If he flips unions, he wins in a landslide. Reagan won those blue states because he was an ex head of the union. The elephant in the room is the unions, not the niggers or spics or butthurt feminists. Those people come in and vote in large blocks. You get a union friendly republican and all this race and sex appeals nonsense goes out the window. The unions are traditionally bought and paid by the Dems. The unions are already afraid of his popularity among the members. Its going to be bad for dems if he successfully convinces the unions that he is their guy.
And PA Democrats aren't even liberal. They're moderate. We vote the way we do for economic reasons. I voted for Obama the first time. We can easily vote Trump. He is not a Ted Cruz type Republican. Trump is Pennsylvania's candidate. Trump can't flip NY though. All Trump needs to do is win slightly more white vote in PA. Even if the black turnout rate stays the way it did in 08 and 12.
>>73760253
NYC is too cucked. A good amount of the state geographically is fairly conservative, but the city is just so massive that it is impossible.
>>73760371
This is what i'm talking about. Trump doesn't need to black vote in PA. He needs to get former union workers like myself. West Virginia used to be solid blue and then it flipped. The same thing is starting to happen here in PA. I'm not saying Trump will win here, but if he keeps slightly more white turnout than Romney, the state is his.
>>73760371h
How many times did you just use the word 'union'?
I don't give a shit if he loses the election. He has already won. He has broken the dam liberals held up by using the word racist. It's now ok to discuss deporting illegal immigrants. He has made the word racist essentially useless. Normies finally realized liberals were calling anyone who disagrees with them racist. He has changed everything about what is and is not acceptable to discuss publicly. He has made being a liberal uncool and something to be mocked, and has shifted the entire conversation back towards center.
He already won. I'm looking forward to the next interation of Trump.
>>73760371
It's the same with Michigan.
>>73758653
I dont think this is Hillary
>>73756913
PA has more of a chance than NY but that isn't really saying much.
Pittsburg and Philadelphia exists so PA most likely won't go red.
Whoever actually believes NY will go red deserves to have their voting rights taken from them, if they're even old enough to vote.
>>73756913
You will be first in line to the slaughter house.
>>73760552
>He has made being a liberal uncool and something to be mocked, and has shifted the entire conversation back towards center.
Not just yet, but slowly he is. Rather, a lot of normal people have been fed up for a long time now but have jobs and livelihood to worry about.
Libs have gotten uppity because of 8 years of kingnigger. When he's gone and Trump is in, all morale will be gone. If Hillary wins, expect real fucking racial tension. What we have now will look like nothing.
>>73760486
This has been done to vote out an incumbent nigger mayor of NYC by Giuliani. He turned only a few unions against Dinkins, and he has won against a nigger incumbent in one of the most liberal cities in US. NYC is all unions. Its not the niggers who carry the state blue. They help, but none of those states are blue if unions don't vote for Dems. He is playing unions. He is going to win NYC if he strikes deals with unions. It will probably carry a lot of other unionized states. Hillary will get raped if he plays his cards right. He deals with unions building in NYC. He is one dangerous candidate for the Dems. Hillary is a moron.
>>73760693
Accordind to the Quinnipac poll form two days ago, Trump is behind hillary by one point.
>>73759520
Stop being delusional.
A 2nd grader knows that just because you pour a small gross of water into a bigger one, it's still the same amount of water.
Boston and Springfield turn Mass blue.
LA and SF turn California blue.
Portland alone turns Oregon, a state the size of new england, blue.
Deep Dish city alone turns Illinois blue.
And yes, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia turn PA blue.
Pic related is the Illinois governatorial race in 2010. The Democrat won. Easily.
>>73760461
Bonus points if the terrorist attack was caused by refugee. People will panic and fear for there lives
>>73759880
You're insane.
I went to college in New York.
It's a liberal cesspool.
>>73761019
Obama only on PA by 5 percent defiantly not something shillary has lock up in the bag
>>73760917
Polls don't matter when election is so far away. I'm basing everything from past elections and demographics. They're not in Trump's favor.
>>73761167
You don't understand just how cucked NYC is. They're not sanfran levels of degenerate, but they're one of the runner ups.
>>73761019
PA isn't as diverse as other states, and it's WHITE union workers that keep us from voting red. It's easier to get whites so switch parties than it is to get blacks or Hispanics to vote for the opposite party.
>>73761180
same here I have in this shit hole even upstate is liberal to the core
>>73761319
good thing most swing states are overwhelmingly white.
Hillary may have a advantage but things could quickly go bad for her
>>73757437
>more Democrat primary voters than Republican
>PA is going blue
This delusion is ridiculous
>>73761521
>good thing most swing states are overwhelmingly white.
That makes me wonder, why the hell is New England and some of the west coast states so fucking liberal when they're white havens? They're truly cancerous.
>>73761684
Because we're not racist?
I wonder if dems are wondering how trump made it this far like how I'm wondering how Clinton made it this far.
>>73761773
So conservatives are racists? What makes you draw to this conclusion?
So Mass, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, California, Washington State, and Maine are all states where a large population of Republicans are essentially locked out of having a vote that matters.
Ate there any states besides Texas where this is true for liberals? Maybe Georgia?
I can't help but feel like if it was up to just a raw popular vote, Republicans would have a huge advantage, but the current map layout just essentially makes them winning a huge uphill battle.
>>73761884
Not PA or Maine. The 2nd congressional district always comes close to going read. PA and Maine Republican votes matter.
>>73761834
>everyone who isn't white is inferior
No need for any other examples
>>73761773
Liberals are by and fast the most hateful, deceitful, racist group in the US. Their policies systematically uphold prejudice, segregation, and racial inequality.
You are delusional.
>>73756913
I feel your fear, the fact that this is now an argument is enough to satiate my desire to see the globalists hung by neck until their dead. America for Americans
>>73761834
They like fucking around, because it is fun to make people mad. No one likes Clinton. They like making their fellow poltards angry. There are no liberals on here. It's all in good fun. I like to troll sometimes to. I like to post anti Trump comments as well because it's fun.
>>73760000
>>73756913
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RtXOEtgjZv
>>73761884
>raw popular vote, Republicans would have a huge advantage
how so it effectively lock out hordes of blacks and mexicans clusted together in stats that dont matter from haveing a vote that counts
>>73762237
Is that that guy from Tennessee? What was his name?
>>73762116
Yeah, basing the judgement of a person on their ability and not their white skin color is racist
I will gladly stream myself being taken advantage of by this monster if it convinces New Yonkers to vote for trump
PA is absolutely doable, no way it happens in NY
>>73762476
>affirmative action
>judging a person on merits
pick one faggot
how the fuck is PA not red? I never understood this. its basically a northeastern texas
>>73765424
It's been getting redder over the past couple of years. It's always within 5%.
>>73760552
You're right but he still needs to win. 4 to 8 more years of Hillary will be doom for the US and most likely even EU
>implying he needs this states to win
>>73765965
Colorado is too dude weed lmao to go red. Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio are all possible though. News has been pushing that he could get Michigan too but I think that's bullshit.
>>73759520
>dat cheeky Ron Paul county
>>73757003
>>73756913
>>73757251
Say hi to Katie Dowd for you, you faggot kikes.
>>73761830
>>73765965
>Indiana
>blue
>>73766104
DUDE donald isn't anti weed
DUDE
>>73765100
PA fag here, besides degenerate hippies that I'm constantly around in college everyone appears to be on the Trump train.
Once Trump thrusts full force into hilldogs snatch in his campaign, PA is sure to be red
