MGTOW/MRA is not a movement. You are not equal to women, you are their natural superiors. Stop demanding equality, stop complaining about inequality, just stop fucking complaining. You aren't a movement, you're a cancerous mass of degeneracy. Get a gym membership, finish your degree, get a job, learn a martial art, stop being a sad sack that never improves himself, and fishes on the internet for rationalizations for never doing anything about his situation.
MGTOW = Cuçksexuality, and it's degenerate.
>>73739152
>Get a gym membership, finish your degree, get a job
Done
Now tell me how to fix the legal system so it doesn't favor women over men
>>73739152
Fitter, happier, more productive, Comfortable, Not drinking too much, Regular exercise at the gym (Three days a week), Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries, At ease, Eating well (No more microwave dinners and saturated fats), A patient better driver, A safer car (Baby smiling in back seat), Sleeping well (No bad dreams), No paranoia, Careful to all animals (Never washing spiders down the plughole), Keep in contact with old friends (Enjoy a drink now and then), Will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall), Favors for favors, Fond but not in love, Charity standing orders, On Sundays ring road supermarket (No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants), Car wash (Also on Sundays), No longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows Nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate, Nothing so childish, at a better pace, Slower and more calculated, No chance of escape, Now self-employed, Concerned (but powerless), An empowered and informed member of society (Pragmatism not idealism), Will not cry in public, Less chance of illness, Tires that grip in the wet (Shot of baby strapped in back seat), A good memory, Still cries at a good film, Still kisses with saliva, No longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick, That's driven into frozen winter shit (The ability to laugh at weakness), Calm, Fitter, Healthier and more productive A pig in a cage on antibiotics.
>>73739313
>tell me how to fix the legal system
Political celibacy isn't going to do that, the feminists already tried and failed with "political lesbianism"
>>73739441
tl;dr
all lies, you fat NEET cheeto
It's like you guys never heard of "pre-nup"
>>73739313
you don't. You leave modern society (ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY leave it) and form/join a real traditional community.
You ignore the legal trap and get a religious/covenant/arranged marriage that actually means something above a piece of paper.
OR you ACTUALLY go your own way the only way that it's supposed to be done - join a monastery and become truly celibate in service of God
>>73740311
Exactly. Why don't any MIGTAU ever talk about this? All they talk about is materialistic degeneracy to fill the hole left by reproductive/social failure.
>>73740625
I have actual literal autism and I don't identify as MGTOW. I've realized I want to go move off grid and truly " go my own way" in a few years, actually leaving society is the only way to "drop out", what they claim is dropping out is just being the bottom rung of slave.
Really though, what "mgtow" people SHOULD be supporting is ARRANGED MARRIAGE. That's the real antidote to feminism, and even most modern "conservatives" won't even consider it without resorting to
>>you're a dirty shitskin indian muzzie
or darwinistic speak about how only losers and want arranged marriages.
yet arranged marriage is literally what let "betas" have normal lives for most of know history.
but no, you'll find MGTOW movement idiots saying that arranged marriage is also slavery because you won't get to pick a perfect slut or magic pixie romance girl.
romance is a lie, always was. Marriage shouldn't be for "love."
>>73740991
>what "mgtow" people SHOULD be supporting is ARRANGED MARRIAGE
Or patrirchy in general, and traditional society more broadly. I respect your desire to live off-grid, especially if you actually are autistic. I knew a kid who was autistic, and I get it. But most of these MGTOWs I encounter are progressives with single-issue contradictions of progressivism. They just want women to "realize" that they "believe in equality, but are actually victims of reverse sexism". They operate under the mistaken assumption that feminists and women generally give a single shit about principles, especially the principles they claim to care about.
90% of the world's population doesn't comprehend abstract morality; they exist entirely in the dimension of rhetoric. They're never going to budge because these cucks "boycott"
>>73741423
It always pisses me off that I have legitimate reasons not to marry because I truly know I'm mentally incapable of being a good father and it would be a disservice to reproduce.
>>they exist entirely in the dimension of rhetoric
that's because most people were never meant to comprehend politics/the world at large at all. The internet was a mistake, mass education was a mistake, hell even LITERACY was probably a mistake for most people including me. All information that doesn't matter when most people will never make use of it and do anything.
Better to live in a backwards, ignorant, isolated little village with no cares outside the immediate for 99% of people on earth.
>>73741897
Yeah. Are you seeking complete isolation, or just somewhere sufficiently small in terms of population?
>>73742482
Probably the latter, I don't think I'd be able to handle complete isolation just yet, considering I've grown up in fucking Jew York City. I just want out. Got a good job in suburban Maryland but that's barely a step up, but it'll pay all my loans and I can save up to buy some land by the time I'm 28-30
>>73742482
Not OP but I too would like to retire on an island someday, nearly complete isolated preferably near the arctic.
>>73742856
Russia is inviting people over to move to Siberia right now. Though I'm kind of wary of the fact that it might just be a way to attract conscripts for WWIII
>>73740991
I second arranged marriage. Victorians fucked up marriage by adding romance back into the mix, which we as a society had finally moved past such primitive urges.
Arranged marriages where the future stability of both parties and families are the highest consideration is the best possible method for the majority.
If India ever learns to fucking poo in loo they might actual become a superpower.
>>73739152
It has been my perception that most MGTOW realize the men are superior to women, and support a patriarchal system: the denial to date, etc. is merely a protest against the matriarchal system.
>>73742999
Yeah I read that post. But I don't trust Russia that much. Would prefer random islands near Canada . Have to save a shit ton of money though.
>>73739152
>Get a gym membership, finish your degree, get a job
Wasn't that the point in MGTOW?
Mgtow is 10 times worse than feminism
Just a buch of grown up males playing to be virgin manchilds.
>>73743146
the answer is somehow find a way to court and marry without dating. Dating really is degenerate, you either have to do it with extreme caution or find a more traditional way of pursuing a wife.
>>73743136
I came to the conclusion I did after a 2 year relationship with an Indian girl. I noticed her relatives were happy and had multiple children while her parents, who had eloped to the US were now in an abusive situation and her dad had converted to Islam.
I don't agree with forced or child marriage though, and it really pisses me off when people equate arranged marriage with it.
>>73743146
Men do not have this leverage, its biologically impossible.
As painful as it may be for men to hear, males individually are expendable and unimportant. The top 40% mate and reproduce with 80% of women. Women are absolutely necessary for the survival of the species and more specifically for the advancement of society, with proper leadership from the patriarchy.
Note that the patriarchy does not mean a consensus of men, it means a dictatorship from the men on top. The real way to sway modern society is for white men to oust Jews and niggers as the "alpha" clan and re-instate traditional Western morality and priorities.
Women behaving badly is just a symptom of a deeper rot, they are consensus creatures on average kneel to the reigning zeitgeist. MGTOW is exactly the sort of decide-and-conqueror tactics the cultural marxists want.
>>73743607
From what I've seen the majority who actually go around calling themselves MGTOW and shilling the movement aren't virgin NEETS, they're older (Gen X and early millenial) divorced men. The good-looking ones promote casual sex with sluts while the bad-looking ones are porn addicts.
>>73743743
>Dating really is degenerate
Its sad that it takes someone with an autistic perspective to realize these truths. "Dating" was not even a concept until the 20s. Courting had always been considered a precursor to potential engagement and only with express permission from both parents and a chaperon at all times.
Even engaged couples were rarely left alone together.
>>73743833
You have to remember that when we had traditional marriage, there was no obsession with darwinistic selection for the top 40% of men. Evolution is bullshit and shouldn't be applied to humans ever. They got wives equal to their own looks and social standing. Polygamy isn't normal like you seem to be describing.
Still the final redpill is realizing that in a real conservative society, people on /pol/ aren't going to be the leaders or alphas, me and you are the stupid plebs who shouldn't even be thinking about " changing society" since we'll most likely never be the leaders anyway. The only thing WE can change is our own families and small circles.
>All these people who think women have it better than guys
Oh boy y'all wouldn't last a second as a high school female.
>>73744204
Don't forget that people married young because compulsory high school was not even a thing, and there wasn't even such an age as "teenager". You were a fully responsible adult and could marry by 16-18. Today the "manchild" problem primarily exists because the school system creates it by design and literally retards maturity (while simultaneously pressuring men into premarital sex)
>>73744602
yeah but this is mostly because of how they're treated by other girls.
High school shouldn't exist though. That's really one of the main roots of every problem in this thread.
>tfw recently started going to the gym
DEM GAINZ
All I need is a job and I officially MADE IT (aka wageslave)
>>73744470
>Polygamy isn't normal like you seem to be describing.
Its normal in an animalistic jungle nigger sense, in that humans without society and evolving traditions would still follow the 40/80 rule.
I was agreeing with you, the way to rise above the Darwinist degradation we are experiencing is to go back to super traditional marriage conventions, it doesn't mean EVERY man gets a wife but it certainly expands the pool.
Men still are biologically less important than women, as much as /pol/ likes to larp about a world with only men and sex-robots.
The feminists are right about one thing, women being seen only as objects of sexual pleasure has a negative effect on society. Women have important roles as Matrons of the inside world of hearth and home and the loving component of raising healthy children and balancing the aggressive and more reckless passions of a man.
Thinking of your wife as your personal fucktoy and housemaid is degenerate nigger-think.
>>73744645
>>73744730
Agreed. If we are to have schooling past childhood it really must be segregated until teenage hormones can die down.
>>73745345
Or people should be marrying before 20 again if they really can't contain it.
Sex should only be within marriage and not the only purpose but Victorian obsessions with denying sexual pleasure within the marriage were also a problem (just look into how many quack therapists started to be into treating things like this in the late 19th century "age of invention" explosion). Contrary to what modern liberals believe, the fucking PURITAN PILGRIM colonists had guides on how to have pleasurable sex. It was just kept private within the confines of marriage
