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how can the US fix its debt problem?
>>73658473
Stop electing Republicans. Stop cutting taxes for the rich.
>>73658473
It isn't really a problem.
>>73658473
Based Bill was only 10 years away.
DEMAND TRIBUTES
>>73658546
>percent of gdp
top kek burnt leaf
"Debt" doesn't exist.
>>73658546
This faggot again...
>>73658473
Default on its debt. Cause a financial catastrophe around the world, force all the top 10 nations to really evaluate how they do business.
>>73658546
The 2008 recession was before the Obama administration?
>>73658578
Hey leaf, it was a republican congress he fought against it, then took credit for it.
>>73658644
So you admit you're a retard.
>>73658720
Dumbest statement of all time.
>>73658723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
Previously the top individual tax rate of 31% applied to all income over $51,900. The Act created a new bracket of 36% for income above $115,000, and 39.6% for income above $250,000.[2]
Previously, corporate income above $335,000 was taxed at 34%. The Act created new brackets of 35% for income from $10 million to $15 million, 38% for income from $15 million to $18.33 million, and 35% for income above $18.33 million.[3]
The 2.9% Medicare tax previously was capped to only apply to the first $135,000 of income. This cap was removed.
Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
The portion of Social Security benefits subject to income taxes was raised from 50% to 85%.[4]
The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
The AMT tax rate was increased from 24% to tiered rates of 26% and 28%.[5]
Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments.
It was Bill's work. Republicans try to take credit for it.
Hey dumbass answer this.
BASED BILL CLINTON GAVE LEADING CONSERVATIVE THINKER GEORGE W. BUSH AND HIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS A $230 BILLION SURPLUS. WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?
>>73658663
pretty sure it does
>>73658546
The top 10% in America already pay 70% of all taxes. Not everyone wants to live in a socialist shithole like you.
Pic related, goods in a Canadian grocery store.
>>73658546
Another
>>73658546
And another
>>73658880
holy fuck, ~20 USD for a god damn bottle of juice? no wonder im such a fatass.
>>73658473
Kill the niggers
Execute the bankers (jews)
Remove kebab
Set fire to the SJW Gibs me dat generation.
>>73658880
Yeah where is that? In the North Pole? I can buy that for $1.
Gif related is a 9/10 in United States of Amerifats.
>>73659022
my math sucks ass, drunk, i ment ~16
>>73658982
Yeah where is that? In the North Pole?
Gif related is a 9/10 in United States of Amerifats.
>>73659075
to think that may have been a qt 18yr old in highschool.
>>73659020
Looks like this fine American beauty only eats Cheez Whiz. Beware the green terror Amerilards.
>>73658473
What is going up higher---US debt or Sweden's number of rapes due to third world immigrants?
Charts look almost identical.
The future for the West looks grave.
>>73659144
How do you even get that much ass?
>>73659075
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>73658546
>what is inflation
top kek leaf you are still posting these shit house memes. Can you explain to me why raping working class families with inflationary policies is good economics?
>>73659254
The chart is in Klingon.
>>73658546
70 per cent of the nations debt is attributable to Obongo
>70 fucking percent
African economics
Stop entering needless wars.
Over 3 trillion has been wasted on Iraq/Afghanistan/the Middle East.
If that same money had been dedicated to producing working class jobs and affordable housing the economy would be able to sustain itself without printing money.
>>73659239
>unsourced infographic
>>73659264
American exceptionalism.
>>73658473
We'll deficit spend and grow our way out of it goy
>>73658880
>>73658982
>>73659020
Jesus, Australian food is overpriced compared to America but it's nothing compared to this, top kek
>>73659279
wtf does inflation have to do with that chart dumbass. You don't see the pattern based on tax cuts?
>>73658546
Wow this picture sure triggers a lot of Republicucks.
>>73659330
>Right wing retard does math.
>>73658473
Cut spending until you have a nice surplus and steadily pay off debt.
>>73659387
Why do you keep arguing with me when that was my post.
You never answer that question you just muddle around crying clutching your arsehole.
Answer the fucking question if you are going to keep quoting me.
>>73659390
If only these retards would learn.
Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/23/Trump-s-Tax-Cuts-Would-Add-245-Trillion-Debt
Don't worry though, he'll cut foreign aid. That'll cover the $24.5 TRILLION.
>>73659376
Don't be fooled by the right wing retard. Those pics are obviously taken somewhere up in the remote high north. Like Nunavut or something.
>>73658473
By never paying it back.
>>73658473
stop printing money.
dont raise the minimum wage.
dont make decisions to increase loans.
let the recession come and deal with it like a man.
brazil didnt do this shit, look what happend.
>>73659476
Lol I didn't know it was you again. I'm not arguing with you. You're the one always trying to start shit. What are you the only Kiwi on here?
>>73659626
>frog_touching_chin.jpeg
>>73659424
That's liking saying there is a hole in the fuel tank but it's smaller now
>>73659239
Even though i laugh with you Canada, dont forget that although many have largely been apathetic and gluttonous towards humanity as a whole what is truly striking is that the minority that usually attempts to restructure the status quo has given up on doing so and fallen within the ranks of the gluttonous; that is what is truly alarming within modern times. cubicle farms and completely backwards economics in regards to physical labor vs. intellectual labor. The spike of college "graduates" in the recent decade is a warning indicator to how backwards we are economically.
>>73659687
Elect Republicans and they'll make it bigger again.
>>73658546
>>73659646
I knew you would be here when i saw the thread you cant help yourself.
>>73659592
Remote areas in the USA dont have ridiculous prices on food like in Cucknadia
>>73659723
Well put Ameribro.
Government Debt doesn't matter
Neolibs are all retarded, as these threads always prove.
>>73659810
So you're pursuing me?
I'm not your Milo.
Take your faggotry elsewhere.
You live in NZ ffs. Enjoy the beautiful surroundings.
>>73659144
Wow shes curvy :D
>>73659745
>>73659723
Wait a fucking second.... You're the leaf thats been shitposting for weeks straight. enjoy the economic repercussions of your industrial sectors burning to the ground faggot, stay the hell out of my country when you consider immigration.
>>73659813
Not going to argue that.
Although I'm sure up in remote parts of Alaska, things are pretty expensive.
>>73659875
You still haven't asked the question stop trying to avoid it like the shill you are.
>>73659907
wavy too
>>73659867
>Government Debt doesn't matter
kys
>>73658546
[0.10$ have been deposited in your account]
>>73659911
I don't know what you're talking about.
>>73658473
sell Mexico to China
>>73658473
PAY
DENBTS
>>73659946
Buddy inflation has nothing to do with that chart. I tend to ignore retardation on that big a scale. What's the matter with you? You have assburgers or something?
You see this chart >>73658546
and you ask
>what is inflation
Jesus christ... and then you wonder why I call you right wing retards.
>>73659965
It doesn't and it never will
Only private debt matters, but idiots always ignore it. Private debt was the real cause of the recession.
Free college ;^)
>>73658473
The problem and the solution explained in 24 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6fu-Wi1kKQ
So is this Cucknadian the Barneyfag of /pol/?
>>73660062
>Avoiding the question
>Attacking the Person
If i have assburgers why are you still quoting me shill?
Inflationary policies are not good financial policies get that through your thick skull.
>>73659991
nevermind, also not my blog so sage, but if you follow this board there's been a particular leaf that's been coming here spamming reddit autism sanders politics here for the past month regardless of others peoples posts providing information against his argument. Anyways, carry on and best of luck in the coming days friend; flags are fun on this board but it'd take a fool to think they dont cause divisions between us.
>>73658546
A FUCKING LEAF
>>73660198
More like the brain /pol/ needs, but doesn't deserve.
>>73658473
We can't. Our debt is insolvent. We can either tell our creditors we won't be paying them back, or print so much money that we may as well not have paid them back. We'll have to tell SS beneficiaries that there is no SS anymore. That's the evil side of too many socialized programs and unnecessary wars.
>>73660255
wtf does inflation have to do with that chart? Go ahead explain. It's a chart of budget deficits/surpluses as a % of GDP.
>>73660291
I recall Barneyfag saying something similar, autists seem to enjoy pretending to be smart.
>>73660291
you haven't responded to any criticism besides attacking the person that made it
all you've done is post sourceless infographics, praise obama, and shitpost
>>73660158
The implied solution is to remove tax havens and get that dosh from the corporations, right? If so, that isn't going to work. Maybe once upon a time that could have worked but the debt has ballooned so much it's not that easily fixable.
>>73660367
Coming from idiots like you, I take that as a compliment.
>>73660411
>expecting a fucking leaf to post anything worth reading
>>73660411
Saying
>what is inflation
Isn't anything.
Jesus christ.
What criticism? Go check out any of my threads. I have 1000's of responses.
Sourceless infographs? Which one? The obesity one? You don't think you lards are that obese? You can probably find that in 2 seconds if you weren't retarded.
>>73658546
>"stop electing Republicans!!!1!1!!!"
>put democrat in the Whitehouse for 8 years
>debt has risen
JUST
>>73660533
Read this bitch. And weep.
>>73660491
What is your opinion on Edward Snowden and the expansion of NSA powers under the Obama administration, as well as the administration's repeated denials towards the Freedom of Information Act (despite claiming it would be transparent)?
>>73660636
Debt has risen under every president. Obama reduced the budget deficit by 2/3. The problem is Republican 9/11 America Defender Bush left Obama a $1.4 TRILLION deficit and a tire fire for an economy.
>>73660683
You conservashits don't get to scream bloody murder and blame Obama anytime something goes wrong in the world (Paris, Belgium, ISIS, Boston) and then not expect Obama to do everything it takes to keep Americans safe.
Holy shit you just got BTFO.
You can't have it both ways Ameritard. You can't go apeshit every time there's a terrorist attack and then not expect it to be a tough issue for both parties.
1. Default and restructure the debit forcing bondholders to get a haircut
2. Print money to pay off the debit which will effectively still be a haircut for the bond holders
OH BOY THE CANADIAN IS AT IT AGAIN
fucking lol, like clockwork
The shill(s) is/are working hard. You kids may want to get that 4chanX filter. The national debt is too important a topic to waste on braindead losers.
>every night he gets BTFO
>every night he comes back for more
A. FUCKING. LEAF.
>>73660846
Nice job not answering the question and completely deflecting it, I'll repeat it since you didn't get it the first time:
What is your opinion on Edward Snowden and the expansion of NSA powers under the Obama administration, as well as the administration's repeated denials towards the Freedom of Information Act (despite claiming it would be transparent)?
>>73659424
A leaf does math.
There is nothing that he said that is wrong.
>>73658713
He was inaugurated in January of 2009. The housing market crashed in October of 2008. Obama inherited the failing economy.
>>73660913
>The national debt is too important a topic to waste on braindead losers.
Trump’s Tax Cuts Would Add $24.5 Trillion to the Debt
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/23/Trump-s-Tax-Cuts-Would-Add-245-Trillion-Debt
>>73660725
If he was good then he could've controlled it and not let it rise to 20 trillion.
>>73660854
I wonder what the next phase of economic woes will be. I don't think the next crash will have us carrying money in our backpacks but it makes me nervous about doing things like buying a house.
>>73660913
any tips on setting up 4chan X? this is kind of confusing
>>73661002
And the fed controlling interest rates and printing of money had nothing to do with stablizing the economy?
It was all Obama?
>>73660725
yeah but only our friend obama managed to 10T in debt by himself
>>73661034
where's obama in that list? why dont we put this in money instead of % afterward
>>73660966
NOT ONCE
>>73660966
>>73660876
Oh it's that retard? Don't even give him the satisfaction of talking about him. Just ignore him or install 4chanX.
>>73661001
70%? Way off. Back to the drawing board .
>>73659239
two of those purple states have the have the highest and most dense black population
>>73658546
Those surpluses are attributable exclusively to free trade deals
>>73661002
These right wing retards were either not even born yet or just too blinded by their stupidity and hatred to know that.
I'd make these faggots watch this video in pic related position.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2POembdArVo
>>73661132
>expecting him to post anything that discredits his buttbuddy Obama (despite not even being American)
Still waiting on an actual answer to this >>73660978
>>73661133
Wait, are you actually so autistic and desperate that you screencap every post that isn't berating you?
>>73659424
But our GDP growth is almost stagnate.
>>73661133
Putting your head in the sand and screaming 'I know you are but what am I' isn't winning an argument.
All these threads have done is further damage the way most /pol/ users look at the Obama administration.
Thanks for that.
>>73661120
https://www.4chan-x.net/
It's pretty straightforward how to install it.
>>73661132
>>73661274
Here's Obama.
If Obama was as bad as Reagan on the debt, it would be $30 TRILLION by now. Won't even hit $20T
>>73658473
Cut military spending. Cut "entitlement" programs.
t. Ron Paul
>>73661510
How is this related to my question in >>73660683 at all?
This is not an economic nor spending question.
>>73661274
I answered the fucking question. Do you have assburgers? Holy shit.
>>73660846
>>73658473
Import less, export more.
>>73661538
We'd have to do that to the point of having government spending lower than income, and keep doing that for decades to fix the problem. Good luck getting Americans to go along with that.
>>73658473
Stop giving free shit to niggers. Deport all Jews, Illegals and non-working blacks, but take all their money first and give it to middle class upstanding citizens. Require a male's approval for any female purchases. Tell all BRICS nations we aren't paying back their bonds and if they don't like it they can fuck themselves. That should do it.
>>73661622
>>73661630
1. I answered your question.
2. WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE NATIONAL DEBT?
>>73661510
I like how you changed the metric to make your fuckbuddy look good
rarely seen a more dishonest piece of shit
>>73661090
Well its impossible to know for sure what and when it will happen. All we no for sure is that the economy on a global scale is full of poor investments that will go bust once interest rates being where they are cannot be tolerated any longer. My guess is there will be riots in a lot of places with low IQ (black and arab) populations.
>>73658473
How can all the countries with a worse debt situation solve their debt problem?
>>73661133
I'd vote for Trump.
>>73658473
Pass balanced budgets and pay it down
can someone give me a (you) ?
testing 4chan X
>>73661715
If you live in a densely populated area of niggers then you're already used to dealing with crime. I don't want to wake up one day and find out my savings are now worth 1/3rd of what they used to.
>>73658473
We cut 300 Billion out of the defence budget and apply it straight to the deficit. At 300 Bill a year we would have the defecit paid off in about 63 years assuming we don't keep borrowing. At that rate we are still spending twice as much on our military as the second biggest spender, China. We might be able to save that much by getting rid of the NSA.
>>73661702
That's directly from the Washington Post. I don't make my own charts you retard. Of course if you're comparing increases in national debt by president, you measure that in %. Did you think a $1 in 2016 = $1 in 1950? YOU FUCKING RETARD.
Btw, Obama is the slowest spender since Eisenhower. Another inconvenient fact for you retards.
>>73661859
hi friend
>>73659536
>other sources of income don't exist
>>73661630
Actually it doesn't, as I asked you what your opinion on the Snowden case was as well as the administration not following through with the Freedom of Information act.
Do you believe that by continuing these restrictive policies (which were implemented under the Bush administration which Obama claims to be against) we are being kept safe and that the press should not be able to retrieve info through the Freedom of Information act?
>>73661657
At the very least most Americans should be able to get behind cutting military spending.
However, "entitlements" make up a much larger part of the deficit, and convincing leftists to cut those back will be... difficult.
>>73661992
>>73661982
thanks
>>73661988
What does this have to do with the national debt, again?
>>73662068
>At the very least most Americans should be able to get behind cutting military spending.
Good luck selling that to the right wing mouthbreathers who shit their pants at the first mention of ISIS.
Why do you think America spends so much on the military? It's to keep all the Scooter-American conservashits feel reassured.
>>73662086
See, yet again you're deflecting from answering the question (despite answering numerous questions unrelated to the national debt in this thread).
Are you going to answer it or not?
>>73658473
Killing all niggers?
>>73662068
It's hard to get nominated as a Republican asking for less military spending. It's hard for a Democrat to ask for less entitlements. We need someone who will ask for both, which is usually a libertarian.
>>73662208
>shitposter ignores geo-politics
i guess when you're from canada and get free defense from the US its easier
>>73662214
1.
>See, yet again you're deflecting from answering the question
That's funny considering you're deflecting from answering this question
>What does this have to do with the national debt, again?
2. I answered it off the cuff, right off the bat. Just not to your satisfaction, which I don't give a shit about.
>>73660846 (You)
3. Wtf are you on about?
4. Pic related. Was this you as well? There's some faggot always asking me random, off topic questions. As I'm supposed to know everything about everything off the top of my head.
>>73662357
Take it up with your Ameribro who said
>At the very least most Americans should be able to get behind cutting military spending.
>>73662068
Not me.
But ya thanks for invading Iraq, Ameritards. What a genius plan that was.
Republican president, Republican House, Republican Senate but ya I know. Hillary's fault.. there's no bigger DINDUS than right wingers I swear.
>>73662357
Not to mention he's from a nation completely irrelevant from world politics other than being Queen Elizabeth's bitch and having a forest fire.
>>73662492
I asked you what you opinion was on the Snowden case and all you did was ramble on about right wingers and muh 9/11, so I guess that means you support Bush-style wiretapping and all that wonderful horseshit.
Doesn't surprise me from someone so defensive of the guy who expanded upon a great deal of Bush's policies.
>>73662606
Hillary voted for the Iraq War and funding for it bruh
>>73662673
Typical. The worst attack against a Democrat is that he didn't completely undo all the bullshit that Republicans did. Yet you retards will just keep on voting Republican anyway.
If you understood political reality, then you would know that you're a complete fucking hypocrite. First of all, Obama did un-do some of those provisions. Secondly and most importantly, if Obama completely struck down and reversed all those provisions, AND THEN there was a terrorist attack, you motherfuckers would be the first one screaming IMPEACHMENT. So fuck right off with your bullshit. I see right through it.
Crash the currency.
>>73658713
Yeah, caused by Bush's affordable housing policy.
>>73662727
Republican president. Republican Vice-president. Republican Secretary of Defense.Republican administration. Republican majority House. Republican majority Senate.
- Hillary did it.
Like I said, right wing retards are the biggest fucking DINDUS on the planet.
>>73662910
I like how I never even said I was a republican and you still whine that it's okay that your golden boy did the same shit just because he wasn't a republican, this is sad dude.
>>73662989
Never said she "did" it but she voted for the war and funding for it, feel free to disprove that though.
>>73658473
The important thing is the GDP/debt ratio, not the amount of debt.
If the economy is not growing, then the debt becomes enormous. If our economy grew at the rate China's has for the past thirty years, the debt wouldn't matter because GDP growth would outpace debt growth.
>>73658473
You can't, at the least you can't fix it by paying back. This kind is debt is not meant to be paid back, no matter how much you pay, it will keep increasing because of interest rate.
The only way to counter this issue is by ignoring the whole thing, just keep paying small amounts of the money, enough to keep people happy.
If you truly want to pay it back, you'll have to increase your GDP by a whole lot, the only way to achieve that is kick start the manufacturing sector
Even if you do that, you still won't be able to pay back
>>73663210
Part 1. The political reality is that NO politician can appear soft on terror. Not in a post 9/11 world That's just the facts. Especially for a Democrat. There's a double standard. Bush can have 9.11 happen on his watch and then go on saying he kept America safe and actually be re-elected. Obama has no 9/11's, no Iraq war lying invasions, but a little Benghazi (Bush had 12 of those btw), and you fuckers are still going on about it. There's still investigations.
Part 2
What difference did her vote make? ZERO. It was a Republican endeavor. OWN IT.
>>73663325
>The only way to counter this issue is by ignoring the whole thing, just keep paying small amounts of the money, enough to keep people happy.
A lot of Americans think this way, and now that India is becoming more westernized they're falling for the same trick. That's debt slavery. Banks and creditors make the most money from fools who follow that practice with their debts. It is possible to pay it back with strict austerity measures. The sooner you correct the problem, the easier it is to fix. (But we waited so long it's not easy.)
>>73663557
>What difference did her vote make? ZERO.
By that logic, no vote matters.
Cool.
I will vote for Trump then since it doesn't matter.
>shitposting with facts
never change /pol/
>>73659076
Take your pills leaf.
Although, I really have to give it to that leaf on the grounds that he's persistent and probably shits in a sock so he doesn't miss anything. Much dedication.
>>73658473
Stop spending like a drunken sailor and wait for nominal GDP growth to disappear the debt-to-GDP ratio
>>73659076
Take your pills leaf
>>73658546
This.
Trumped
>You know, I’m the king of debt," Donald Trump said. "I understand debt probably better than anybody. I know how to deal with debt very well."
Trump: U.S. can never default because it prints money
>>73664127
>that comprehension
>being this retarded
Thinks 1 senator's vote on a bill that was going to pass because of Republicans is the equivalent of a vote for President.
>>73664193
I poo in the loo.
Happy to take pics if you'd like. Would probably the same as your brain matter.
>>73664603
>Trump: U.S. can never default because it prints money
That man-baby is too retarded to know you're not supposed to say that out loud.
>>73658473
>print more money
>pay off debt
duh
>>73664709
>logical conclusion of your words
>this much denial
You said a vote doesn't matter. I plan on voting Trump just to piss you off then.
How does that make you feel?
And before you answer that question, know that it is physically impossible for me to care any less about your feelings.
there's no need to lower the debt
>>73664912
>You said a vote doesn't matter.
I said that vote in particular didn't matter.
Go ahead vote Trump. I don't give a shit. You probably want to ruin your country anyway. Then when Trump fucks everything up, you'll just blame Obama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs
>>73664797
Oh hey it's this guy again.
How many Americans are not in the labor force?
What fiscal policies was President Obama responsible for that had a major impact in the economy?
Are the jobs, that Obama created, jobs capable of supporting a family or are they minimal wage service jobs?
How many high paying manufacturing jobs have been lost to outsourcing under free trade agreements, such as NAFTA, and replaced with low paying service jobs?
How did President Obama fix rampant outsourcing and the disastrous monetary policy?
What is the number of people on federally subsidized programs for low income people?
How many migrants, legal or illegal, did the United States take in under Obama's presidency?
How many jobs did those migrants fill while displaying native born Americans?
How do Americans compete against the H1B Visa holders who are willing to work for slave labor?
>>73665453
HA! Jokes on you!
I was planning on blaming Onigger all along.
All this discussion on which party made the most debt.
It's almost like the system is broken and government itself it the problem or something! Who would've thought it...
>>73663325
>Kickstart the economy
Yes, that has never failed before.
>>73658473
Cut military spending.
>>73665554
im saving these questions for future reference, thanks
>>73665110
I kind of understand this argument, but the thing is that countries pay interest on debt, right?
>>73665596
>B-But how can Lockheed make obscene profits?
>>73658473
Most Americans don't understand the debt or where it comes from. As long as they get their gibs.
>>73665596
This
>>73658546
>Deficit as a % of GDP
A FUCKING LEAF
>>73661947
That graph is misleading. The reason its so low is because Congress hasn't passed a budget during he Obama administration, just ongoing resolutions to continue funding. That's why it looks so low.
tl;dr Congress hasn't had a new budget since '08
>>73658578
>mfw a majority republican congress passed the only balanced budget in the past 100 years
>>73665571
Typical white conservative male. Always blaming your problems on the black man holding you down.
>>73665831
>being this fucking retarded
>>73666112
>typical nigger democrat male. Always blaming your problems on the white man holding you down.
FTFY
>>73659144
I'm quite unique, I'm just a totally disgusting pervert. I'd like to fuck it on it's back while it spreads as far as it can and I choke it while demeaning and hitting it.
>>73665906
BASED BILL CLINTON GAVE LEADING CONSERVATIVE THINKER GEORGE W. BUSH AND HIS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS A $230 BILLION SURPLUS. WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?
>the only balanced budget in the past 100 years
Not even close. What a retard. Doesn't know shit about his own country.
>>73666206
Wasn't it you that just said this:
>I was planning on blaming Onigger all along.
>>73666301
It's easy to have a boom when a brand new multinational market opens up almost overnight during your watch.
>>73666301
How many Americans are not in the labor force?
What fiscal policies was President Obama responsible for that had a major impact in the economy?
Are the jobs, that Obama created, jobs capable of supporting a family or are they minimal wage service jobs?
How many high paying manufacturing jobs have been lost to outsourcing under free trade agreements, such as NAFTA, and replaced with low paying service jobs?
How did President Obama fix rampant outsourcing and the disastrous monetary policy?
What is the number of people on federally subsidized programs for low income people?
How many migrants, legal or illegal, did the United States take in under Obama's presidency?
How many jobs did those migrants fill while displaying native born Americans?
How do Americans compete against the H1B Visa holders who are willing to work for slave labor?
>>73666301
>Bill Clinton created the internet
>>73666392
Why yes it was.
Are you denying that niggers constantly blame the white man for holding them down?
>>73666301
>doesn't know shit about how congress works
>gives credit to Bill Clinton for signing a piece of paper written and passed by house Republicans
A FUCKING LEAF
>>73666462
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis
It's easy to fuck everything up when you're a Republican.
>>73666552
How many Americans are not in the labor force?
What fiscal policies was President Obama responsible for that had a major impact in the economy?
Are the jobs, that Obama created, jobs capable of supporting a family or are they minimal wage service jobs?
How many high paying manufacturing jobs have been lost to outsourcing under free trade agreements, such as NAFTA, and replaced with low paying service jobs?
How did President Obama fix rampant outsourcing and the disastrous monetary policy?
What is the number of people on federally subsidized programs for low income people?
How many migrants, legal or illegal, did the United States take in under Obama's presidency?
How many jobs did those migrants fill while displaying native born Americans?
How do Americans compete against the H1B Visa holders who are willing to work for slave labor?
>>73666470
Isn't this the definition of copypasta shitposting?
>>73658473
Gold backing and solid state drives
>it's another Canada shills for Obama Episode
>the same strawman arguments
>the same graphs
>180 posts and 53 image replies omitted.
Why do you people still reply? Is /pol/ incapable of being baited?
>>73666513
You're gunna beat me. I'm a little low on my stefbot inventory.
>>73666586
I'll stop once you answer.
How many Americans are not in the labor force?
What fiscal policies was President Obama responsible for that had a major impact in the economy?
Are the jobs, that Obama created, jobs capable of supporting a family or are they minimal wage service jobs?
How many high paying manufacturing jobs have been lost to outsourcing under free trade agreements, such as NAFTA, and replaced with low paying service jobs?
How did President Obama fix rampant outsourcing and the disastrous monetary policy?
What is the number of people on federally subsidized programs for low income people?
How many migrants, legal or illegal, did the United States take in under Obama's presidency?
How many jobs did those migrants fill while displaying native born Americans?
How do Americans compete against the H1B Visa holders who are willing to work for slave labor?
>>73666535
>for holding them down?
You mean shooting them dead?
>>73666616
>incapable of not being baited
I am too drunk to properly shitpost.
>>73658473
Stop giving the jews money is a good start.
Start paying u.n sec council dues would show principal
>>73658473
dat 1995-2000 slow down, bush and obongo should be executed.
>>73666513
>>73666463
>>73666580
>>73666661
>>73666470
>>73665554
Sorry man that's 4 times. I gotta report you. You're just copypasta shitposting and adding nothing of value.
I already answered 2 of yours when you kept pestering me yesterday and you still won't answering anything cause you're an assburger.
I will not be your Milo. You get 1 question per day. Now fuck off.
>>73666673
Nice deflection.
You can't give a straight answer to any question posed to you, can you?
I don't know if you really believe what you are posting or if you are trying to reverse psychology shill, but either way, I am more convinced that ever that Obama's economic policy is the worst in recent history and that voting for Hillary or Bernie is the dumbest thing I could do, because I would make me more like the absolute cock gobbler you are.
As I pointed out earlier, all you are doing is pushing people further away from your point of view when you put your head in the sand and yell 'i know you are but what am i'
>>73658578
reality is that they lowered taxes BUT they did NOT stop spending. democrats promised that they would stop spending BUT THEY DIDNT..They took money from social security
Are the jobs, that Obama created, jobs capable of supporting a family or are they minimal wage service jobs?
How many high paying manufacturing jobs have been lost to outsourcing under free trade agreements, such as NAFTA, and replaced with low paying service jobs?
How did President Obama fix rampant outsourcing and the disastrous monetary policy?
>>73666621
you might have more shitty graph than me but youll never have more memes
>>73666709
Protip there's a reason why that chart stops in 2012. Because people on food stamps are falling. Also, more people went on under Bush than Obama. Thirdly it's pretty obvious that the reason why it went up under Obama is because he inherited the worst Republican Recession since the Republican Great Depression from Bush.
Btw any conservashit right wing retard who is against raising the min wage, doesn't get to complain about food stamps.
>>73665717
>>73666661
Don't forget to post this bro.
>>73658862
>implying corporations ever pay the full tax rate
>implying spending doesn't matter, only taxation
>>73666992
Not gunna argue with that.
My epic custom-made Webm blows them all out of the water though.
>>73666463
>>73658473
Stop giving niggers are illegals free money may help a bit
>>73666908
>I am more convinced that ever that Obama's economic policy is the worst in recent history
When he crashes the economy like Bush did and creates only 1 million jobs in 8 years, then you might have a point.
Until then, all you're doing is showing off your stupidity by making asinine comments like that.
Bush had literally the worst job creation record since Herbert Hoover. Another genius Republican.
>>73667090
You always forget to post this part.
why is debt bad?
>>73658723
..... the President doesnt write the budget...LOL canada
1990-1993 senate/house majority democrats
1994-2001 senate/house majority Repubs
>>73667363
if you don't pay back your debts you cant get loans
>>73667303
Done shilling for your pet ape? It's past your bed time shill.
>>73667398
Fucking retards don't know shit about their own country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
Previously the top individual tax rate of 31% applied to all income over $51,900. The Act created a new bracket of 36% for income above $115,000, and 39.6% for income above $250,000.[2]
Previously, corporate income above $335,000 was taxed at 34%. The Act created new brackets of 35% for income from $10 million to $15 million, 38% for income from $15 million to $18.33 million, and 35% for income above $18.33 million.[3]
The 2.9% Medicare tax previously was capped to only apply to the first $135,000 of income. This cap was removed.
Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
The portion of Social Security benefits subject to income taxes was raised from 50% to 85%.[4]
The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
The AMT tax rate was increased from 24% to tiered rates of 26% and 28%.[5]
Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments.
>>73667446
I get that you want my D badly but I will not be your Milo. Can you fuck off now faggot.
>>73667476
..... again the President does NOT write the budget....
>>73658473
Not with the baby boomers still alive, no.
>>73667539
I'm starting to think that this leaf is a bot
>>73667476
Post a pic with a timestamp if you're not a bot, leaf
>>73667398
>1:57
>>73667476
>1:59
Not at the speed at which this guy posts. He has everything worked out for him in his shill script handed to him by his supervisor. Literally doing it for free.
>>73667521
Aw, is the shill butthurt I'm pulling him off script again? Did I hurt your precious fee fees? Go to bed, you went to bed at 1:00 eastern time last night there abouts. :^)
>>73667608
lol its canada..dont worry he will soon go over his internet download cap
>>73667539
>>73667593
>..... again the President does NOT write the budget....
What's this faggot?
The President's Budget for Fiscal Year 2017
https://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget
You fell for MUH PURSE STRINGS meme
Kek.
>Post a pic with a timestamp if you're not a bot, leaf
Yes I'm a bot.
Man you fuckers are paranoid.
>>73658473
Industrial space revolution!!!!!
>>73667695
OMG! are you being serious right now?
>>73667539
>damage control
SHILL HARDER. YOUR SUPERVISOR HAS BEEN NOTIFIED.
>>73667363
>have deficit
>print out money and sell it to banks, pay deficit with the returns
>inflation occurs, and banks own more and more share of federal government
or
>can't pay debts
>borrow from foreign countries
>interest grows, increasing the debt
>they either stop loaning money eventually or invade you
>>73667593
no way somebody made a bot this elaborated
only one bot could compete and its gone forever
>>73667608
All you're doing is complimenting how fast, effective, intelligent and efficient I am. Thank you that's a compliment.
Wouldn't be the first.
>>73667228
Bro the discussion is over. You convinced me how terrible he is.
Our real GDP is growing at it's lowest levels in decades.
The BLS says we have the lowest labor force particiaption rate in over 40 years.
And it's all a result of Obama's failed economic policies.
Thanks for helping me see the light.
A vote for Trump is the only thing that will make America great again.
>>73667682
Unlimited
>>73667811
what bot was that? never heard of something with that capability
>>73667839
>Damage control
How many good boy points have you accrued today? Did you get your chicken tendies for being a good shill?
>>73667862
congrats you must work for the state!
>>73667785
>>73667659
You're a sad, lonely little boy.
>>73667695
>the president writes the budget
KEK
More like the president suggests a budget and congress more or less completely ignores it and does what they want
>"All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."
Article I, Section 7, Clause 1
again
A FUCKING LEAF
>>73667811
Exactly. They're actually compliment me that I'm that fast and efficient. I definitely added that to my folder.
Would you believe I don't even have a 4chan pass. I'm still doing these stupid captchas.
>>73658473
By not electing a nigger Democrat (redundant I know) who will double the debt in 8 years and instead electing a businessman who cares about America
>>73667930
>being this ignorant
lurk more
>>73667849
>Our real GDP is growing at it's lowest levels in decades.
No longer have population growth. Why do you think we have this huge pushes for immigration after 2010?
Pro tip- Boomers retired in 2010-2015
>The BLS says we have the lowest labor force particiaption rate in over 40 years.
Your unemployement is on 5%, so it's because Boomers are retiring
>A vote for Trump is the only thing that will make America great again.
Trump is of no concern here
>>73667949
Note he's shitting up the thread now because he's been called out for being what he is.
>>73667849
>The BLS says we have the lowest labor force particiaption rate in over 40 years.
Baby boomers aren't allowed to retire?
Are you really brining up MUH 93 gorillion? Have you learned nothing, retard?
>>73667946
The state of BTFO right wing retards.
>>73668030
thanks leaf
>>73659076
Take your pills leaf
>>73668080
lol Canada sooo adorable. Cant even troll right
>>73668034
>lefty/pol/
Opinion discarded.
>>73667991
The president submits his budget to Congress. What part didn't you fucking understand?
This is all news to you because all you ever hear MUH CONGRESS MUH PURSE STRINGS.
You think I'm not familiar with the zombified right wing retard brain?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
Previously the top individual tax rate of 31% applied to all income over $51,900. The Act created a new bracket of 36% for income above $115,000, and 39.6% for income above $250,000.[2]
Previously, corporate income above $335,000 was taxed at 34%. The Act created new brackets of 35% for income from $10 million to $15 million, 38% for income from $15 million to $18.33 million, and 35% for income above $18.33 million.[3]
The 2.9% Medicare tax previously was capped to only apply to the first $135,000 of income. This cap was removed.
Transportation fuels taxes were raised by 4.3 cents per gallon.
The portion of Social Security benefits subject to income taxes was raised from 50% to 85%.[4]
The phase-out of the personal exemption and limit on itemized deductions were permanently extended.
The AMT tax rate was increased from 24% to tiered rates of 26% and 28%.[5]
Part IV Section 14131: Expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and added inflation adjustments.
>>73667303
>saves all his posts
>calls other people autists
lol
>>73668155
>Complaining about Canadia shitposting
>jump to literally ad hominem´
assburgers
>>73668142
Looks like I did just fine.
>>73668054
The shilling never ends.
It's like you really believe the shit you are spewing.
As I said in my last post, you lost me.
I will never support your point of view.
You lost me.
>>73668054
>WSJ
>all drop in labor participation is due to retirement
>conveniently started in 2008, just in time fore the recession
>>73668196
You've posted the same garbage 3 times already, and have yet to respond to my criticisms
Fuck off paid shill
>>73668215
Not all of them.
>autists
Pic related
>inb4 MUH FACTS
>>73661326
Not even true. Being wrong on just plain google-able economic facts is unforgivable. Just google 'US GDP' and look at the most recent years.
>>73668245
>>73668245
>No longer have population growth. Why do you think we have this huge pushes for immigration after 2010?
Because native born americans are not breeding due to socialist policies.
Because companies would rather import a poo in loo to work for slave wages.
Because everything has been offshored due to free trade agreements.
Happy :^)
>>73668245
kek thx portubro. Here's some charts for these retards when they talk about muh clfpr 1978.
>>73668054
They don't realize that their man-baby retard literally thinks 80 year old grannies, 16 year old high school kids, stay at home moms (like Melania), full time university students, the sick, and the disabled are all UNEMPLOYED.
Their god-baby is literally a retard.
>>73658473
Wasn't most of Europe in MASSIVE debt to the US after World War I and World War II?
Whatever happened to that?
>>73667695
>Man you fuckers are paranoid.
There's millions of dollars being spent on actors to fuck with us. I'm sorry that we don't trust a faggot leaf who has an opinion that no sane person could have.
>>73668326
>>conveniently started in 2008, just in time fore the recession
It's been falling since 1999 you fucking moron.
And yeah a huge chunk of it is retirement. You retards ever heard of the baby boomers?
The other part is higher high school graduation rates (trumptards finally getting their education) and more university students.
Wtf did you think it was dumbass?
You really thought my 80 year old retired grandma was UNEMPLOYED? You retard.
>>73658473
>stop foreign aid
>stop welfare
>>73668362
>due to socialist policies.
lol, explain this
>Happy :^)
You agreed with me, so yes, kinda.
>>73668347
>politi"""""""""""fact""""""""""""
see
http://www.politifactbias.com/
for an in-depth deconstruction of that agenda-driven site
>>73668528
>It's been falling since 1999 you fucking moron.
More than 40% of the drop occured within months of 2008
>it's all muh baby boomers retiring I swear! the economy is recovering under Obama!
>>73668512
>y that we don't trust a faggot leaf who has an opinion that no sane person could have.
What? Like pic related? Why? Because it's a fact?
All I've ever told you is the truth. I haven't lied to you. Not once. I've answered thousands of questions.
It's your man-baby who lies to you and plays you for a fool.
Trump's Mar-a-Lago hires hundreds of foreign workers
http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/18/news/economy/trump-maralago/index.html
>>73668512
>There's millions of dollars being spent on actors to fuck with us.
Are you talking about 4chan shilling?
>>73659144
Good 'ol the learning Chanel.
>>73668656
Socialism kills nations. Venezuela literally cannot afford to print money. Cubans build trash from boats to escape their hellhole of an island. Germany's birthrate is the lowest in the world. Why should people breed and have kids to take care of them when daddy government will take care of you in your old age?
>>73668669
>More than 40% of the drop occured within months of 2008
You mean when the last Republican president crashed the economy?
Buddy I just showed you the components of exactly who is not in the labor force and why.
>>73668528
>>73668428
>>73668054
What exactly is your tinfoil lunatic right wing retard conspiracy here?
I know you're an idiot but has anyone ever told you that the U4 unemploymenr rate (NOT U3) INCLUDES DISCOURAGED WORKERS. Pic related.
>>73659264
Krabby patties go straight to the thighs.
>>73668669
>More than 40% of the drop occured within months of 2008
The crisis of '08?
>>it's all muh baby boomers retiring I swear! the economy is recovering under Obama!
2010-65=1945
Just look at that amazing economic policy.
>>73668807
>You mean when the last Republican president crashed the economy?
Confirmed for not knowing how the crash happened.
Do you conveniently forget about the time Bill Clinton signed the repealing of Glast Siegel?
Subprime mortgage bonds would never have taken off like they did if the banks selling them didn't think that the Federal Government wouldn't bail them out
>>73668837
Are you incapable of reading charts?
>>73668793
>Venezuela literally cannot afford to print money.
>Socialist
Venezuela would call itself land of the unicorns if it meant it's elites would kep power.
>Socialism kills nations.
Like?
>Cubans build trash from boats to escape their hellhole of an island.
Only after the fall of SU. What kind of country can thrive in a place that is literally blockaded by all it's neighboors? And Cuba is a small island.
Now compare Cuba to it's caribean neighboors. Cuba is pretty much better in everything
> Germany's birthrate is the lowest in the world.
And this is the fault of socialism because? If you call Germany socialistic, then you need to call USA socialistic too.
>Why should people breed and have kids to take care of them when daddy government will take care of you in your old age?
>Muh feelz
>>73668924
>Do you conveniently forget about the time Bill Clinton signed the repealing of Glast Siegel?
>Glast Siegel?
Kek. Is that the first time you ever typed that out?
Here's a video for you. It's only 1 minute. Please listen to it and tell me what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False
Also, I see you don't want to talk about the CLFPR anymore. So what's the real unemployment rate again?
>>73668924
>confirmed for not knowing
Don't forget NAFTA :^)
He never, ever responds to posts with NAFTA
>>73668807
Also
Why don't you post something that compares the rates to before 2008?
Anything looks good when compared to the height of a recession
>>73667031
I'm fine with welfare programs, so long as the government doesn't go into debt. As things stand now, here would be the results of this for single people if you were to pay that debt off in a century, presuming GDP and welfare stays stagnant:
The 10% bracket (0-9k/yr) would raise to 37.6%.
The 15% bracket (9k-37k/yr) would raise to 42.6%.
The 25% bracket (37k-91k) would raise to 52.6%.
The 28% bracket (91k-190k) would raise to 55.6%.
The 33% bracket (190k-413k) would raise to 60.6%.
The 35% bracket (413k-415k) would raise to 62.6%.
The 39.6% bracket (415k+) would raise to 67.2%.
Of course, this is JUST federal income, and won't include Social Security, State Taxes, Property Taxes, Car Taxes, or Sale Taxes. Those vary by person.
But yeah, if that's what the voters want, then fine. I bet that it would do more harm than good, though.
>>73668276
AWWWW so cute!
>>73669089
None of that would be possible if not for Bill Clinton.
>>73668924
>Glast Siegel?
Somene screancap this. Lol
>Are you incapable of reading charts?
What part is wrong? I just told you the reason for the drops of you chart.
After '08 it was the unemployement due to the crisis. After that, and especially starting in 2010 it is due to retirements, since it's the start of Boomers entering retirement age.
>>73669104
Your sad desperation is showing.
12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420
>>73669307
ADORABLE still trying to troll..
>>73669121
That's not right. There's only 560,000 discouraged workers in the entire country.
I'm calling you out right now for being a fucking liar. What's the source on that chart?
>>73658546
Ignores the republican legislature during Obama administration.
Nice try dem shill.
Presidential elections do not influence monetary policy in any meaningful way.
>>73669307
>The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Clinton said he hoped the agreement would encourage other nations to work toward a broader world-trade pact
on dec 8, 1993
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nafta-signed-into-law
but keep lying, your becoming more amusing by the post.
>>73669375
>trolling with facts
assburgers
>>73658578
Actually Bill was completely against the idea. It was a strategist (who turned Repub after the administration) who convinced him to ultimately support the conservative legislature's economic policy.
>>73669289
Don't worry I did. Here you go.
>>73669084
>Venezuela
True.
>Cuba is pretty much better in everything
>People build boats from trash to escape
>Germany
As I just said, why should people breed when the government will take care of you?
>Like
Socialist states die, it's not a matter of if but when. You remember what happened to the USSR? The only reason Europe's current Socialist states can exist as they are is due to American capitalism. Does any European state have a strong military? No? There you go. The only reason America can support a socialist state and a military is because of the petrodollar.
>>73669307
>doesn't know the differences between Bushes
LMAO
>>73669289
>I just told you the reason for the drops of you chart.
No, you completely focused on one reason while ignoring the other.
See >>73669121
also
>leftypol
Back you cr!pplechan you pathetic cuck
>>73669391
>http://www.businessinsider.com.au/unemployment-rate-if-discouraged-workers-came-back-2014-1
Do you not know how to reverse image search?
>>73669443
Are you suggesting this news clip is doctored?
12/17/1992: Pres. Bush Signs NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/dec-17-1992-pres-bush-signs-nafta-15205420
>>73669619
Are suggesting that link I posted is lying?
tariffs
thats pretty much the only way
>>73669610
Oh that's the unemployed + discouraged workers. Yeah that makes more sense. Like I said that's 5.3%. Your chart is EXTREMELY misleading because it makes it look like it's only showing discouraged, not U4 unemployed + discouraged.
Wow extremely misleading. Good thing I have that capped. I can see why right wing retards would fall for it, they're idiots. They'll believe anything. But I knew it was bullshit as soon as I saw it.
So you admit Trump is mentally handicapped?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wII90dqsZrM
>Ctrl+f "usury"
>Phrase not found
So I take it this was a shit thread then?
>>73658546
Literally this
>>73669619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvU2hFgQvk
>>73669761
Just another Canada shills for Obama. I'm drunk off my ass right now so I don't give a shit.
>>73658578
Hopefully we'll get another Clinton this November ^.^
>>73659867
>monetarism
>monetary police
>adjusting the money supply through the federal reserve
that is Keynesian
>>73669593
>People build boats from trash to escape
Because America was a better place to live then Cuba. And Cubans could not emigrate to America. But Caribean immigration to USA is not a Cuban fenomenum. I think Capitalistic Puerto Rican immigration is much higher.
Cuba is still one of the best countries in Caribean.
>As I just said, why should people breed when the government will take care of you?
lol
>Socialist states die
One example
>The only reason Europe's current Socialist states
Again, if you call europe socialistic, then you have to call USA socialistic too. Many European countries have much higher bussiness freedom indexs for example.
>Does any European state have a strong military?
>Muh military
>Muh dick
It's true what Hitler said. Americans are truly a negrofied race
We could get rid of the FED.
>>73669918
I can't wait.
Shillary will keep us safe from the big mean white males.
>>73669610
>See >>73669121
The canadian already showed it to be stupid and misleading. It also had nothing to do with the post i was responding
>No, you completely focused on one reason while ignoring the other.
I focused on the chart yo posted. Any discussion you were having is meaningless to me.
>Back you cr!pplechan you pathetic cuck
Never even been there
>>73669918
Pic related is what George Bush inherited. And he fucked it all up.
Republicans just want to get in there so they can crash the economy. It's what they always do.
>>73670102
He labels the chart as DISCOURAGED. I knew it was bullshit right away because there's only 560,000 discouraged in the whole country. I showed that here with a screenshot.
>>73669391
His chart was clearly unemployed + discouraged. I think. All I know is there's no way there's 6 million discouraged. That's clear from the screenshot.
Also, here's U3 to U6. Those are all the measures there are.
They've all fallen by half under Obama. Trump is a loon for thinking unemployment is 42%.
Also, U6 is UNDER-employment, not unemployment. Don't waste your time trying to explain it to them though, they'll never get it.
>>73669960
>Cuba is one of the best countries in the Caribbean
>THEY BUILD BOATS FROM FUCKING TRASH TO ESCAPE
Are you trolling or just being willfully retarded.
>lol
It's true though. What's the average birthrate with countries that have Socialist policies? Less than replacement levels.
>example
Currently? Venezuela is in the middle of economical collapse. Sweden's population is being replaced by Muslims. Germany's 18-30 male demographic is being replaced by Muslims.
>again
But they are Socialistic. I should have stated they are Capitalism with Socialist policies just like Burgerland.
>muh military
>muh dick
That's also true. What is Germany's current standing military strength? Can it support a socialist state as well as project a strong military presence? What's Norway's and Sweden's military strength? Practically nill. How do European Socialist states survive? Because the burgers can support a socialist state on top of a military due to the petrodollar.
>>73669750
>Trump
moving the goalposts
I've never mentioned Trump once in this thread, go check for yourself.
In fact, the only good thing Trump is doing is single-handedly removing the Christcucks from the Republican party.
>I can see why right wing retards would fall for it, they're idiots. They'll believe anything.
Top kek
Says the guy who's defending government intervention under Obama as an economic policy,
>>73658546
>>73660560
while at the same time criticizing government intervention under Bush
>>73658862
>>73669089
Protip:
-All taxation is a form of theft, especially those taxes that go to mandatory savings/insurance programs.
-All deficit spending is unsustainable, no matter whose party does it
Funny how leftists preach sustainability of the environment but completely ignore sustainability of the economy.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest.
>>73670102
What are you even trying to say here?
Unapologeticly low quality shitposting m8
>>73670399
tipical assburgers. I explained you everything, and you choosed to ignore
>>73670353
>They've all fallen by half under Obama.
You seem to think that inheriting the economy in the second worst depression in the history of the WORLD and not making it worse is a good thing by default.
Our complaint isn't that he didn't make things better. It's that he didn't make thing good enough.
It's like claiming that there are only 10% of Americans without health insurance now, vs 15% when he took office. That is a monumental failure. He made it ILLEGAL to not have health insurance, and there's still 30 million people without insurance.
>>73670490
>gommie can't refute logical, easily Googable common sense points
>>73670353
>They've all fallen by half under Obama.
Yes they've fallen by half from the rates at the height of a recession. Amazing work Obama!
Doesn't change the fact that Democucks consistently lie about the unemployment rate, citing it as at least 1% or more (15% of the total rate of unemployment) below the actual numbers.
The funny thing is, these pathetic "recovery" numbers are not even the result of Obama's policies, but the result of job creating business owners.
"If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
-Barack Obama
You are literally defending this guy
>>73670880
>"If you've got a business – you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
It's true. It wasn't the bussiness owner who built the roads that connect the company. It wasn't the bussiness that built the computers the bussiness uses.
You guys don't know how societies work
>>73670540
>Our complaint isn't that he didn't make things better. It's that he didn't make thing good enough.
That's been the Republican playbook for the last 100 years.
Fuck everything up. Then blame Democrats for not fixing it fast enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKv-dXHhtMs
And you idiots want to return to the very policies that fucked you up in the first place.
>>73670986
How did the government contribute to the building of the US Freight railway system?
>>73670880
>Doesn't change the fact that Democucks consistently lie about the unemployment rate, citing it as at least 1% or more (15% of the total rate of unemployment) below the actual numbers.
Got a source on that cleetus? Or you just making shit up again?
>Yes they've fallen by half from the rates at the height of a recession. Amazing work Obama!
Yeah exactly. Republicans crash the economy. Democrats fix it.
You vote Republican because you love it when the US economy crashes.
>>73670880
Btw wtf if the blue and the red?
The U3 REAL OFFICIAL unemployment rate is 5%. The U4 is 5.3%
Get some fucking updated charts.
It's 2016.
>>73670998
>And you idiots want to return to the very policies that fucked you up in the first place.
You're putting words in my mouth. I just want to be left alone, and, if/when that is not possible, for the US to not take out debt. See my post here:>>73669157
>>73671069
>Got a source on that cleetus?
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/unemployment-rate-if-discouraged-workers-came-back-2014-1
>Yeah exactly. Republicans crash the economy. Democrats fix it.
What is the 1980s recession under Carter
>>73671167
>posting the same improperly sampled chart over and over
You're not convincing anyone, leaf.
>>73671408
>What is the 1980s recession under Carter
You mean Reagan
http://www.pewresearch.org/2010/12/14/reagans-recession/
>>posting the same improperly sampled chart over and over
You're not convincing anyone, leaf.
What do you think you're proving by posting a chart that ends in 2013? When I'm posting one that's current as of April 2016.
Do you even know what year it is?
Do you have any clue when Obama took office?
Again you're proving my point.
Republicans crash the economy Democrats fix it.
