this is how we win
>>73657117
>we
Ok Trump's America will liberate Canada from le weedman
>>73657117
Even though Virginia is more Democrat now, if Trump managed to win Ohio,Florida, and PA, he would also win Virginia, and maybe even Colorado. If he wins PA and Ohio, he is winning Virginia.
>>73657117
It will all come down to Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania--all neck-and-neck states in a Trump v Hill race.
Trump HAS to win those three states, kids.
>>73659668
If Trump can win PA, all other swing states will follow. There's no way Trump win PA but doesn't so in VA, NV, CO, or OH.
>>73657117
How the fuck is Trump gonna get Florida and Pennsylvania? Are you retarded? Trump will lose and we will be stuck with that cut Shillary. Idiots.
>>73659668
honestly PA is harder to win, he should focus on VA Flor and Ohio instead thatll get him the win
>>73659845
The latest Quinnipiac poll has him even with Shillary in those states.
>>73657117
>Florida
>Going Red
XD
>>73659942
>Winning PA
>Winning FL with all those hispanics
>Winning Ohio
KEK
>>73659942
>mccain
>>73659960
Look how fucking close it was mong.
>>73659960
>>73659942
in case you forgot, florida went red for bush. twice.
>>73657117
Trump has a better chance of flipping VA and NV.
Let's face it, VA only went blue the past two elections because of weak Republican candidates.
>>73659942
>>73659960
>comparing those shit candidates to Trump
>>73659845
why do people think trump won't win florida? what is this meme?
>>73657117
Trump will lose Florida because Hispanics. Rubio & Jeb will probably tell their support networks in the state to stay home too. (They may have lacked the support to beat him in the state primary but they won't need nearly as much to fuck him over in the general. A couple thousand votes would do it.)
Pennsylvania, not a chance. The QP poll is an outlier; all other polls in the state have Clinton at double digits. It's a blue state.
Ohio is really the only swing state where le wall man has a fighting chance.
>>73659942
Why did you choose a war-weary economic downfall magical negro preaching scenario vs same white guy 2008? Even Romney did quite well in FL and rednecks (North FL) didn't like him nearly as much as Trump.
>>73657117
>Ohio and Florida
>Republican
Sure thing bud
>>73659932
>Quinnipiac poll
Oh, did they poll are niggers and spics? No, they didn't. He will lose, this is clear to anyone paying attention. Kinda sucks, I wanted to see if he would actually MAGA..
>>73659960
Romney only lost by .2 percent.
You really think that Hilary will be able to energize that crowd
>>73660142
>demolished sitting senator and former governor with home field advantage in florida
>can't win the state
LMAO
FL resident here
No way we don't go red
Everywhere I look from Gainesville to Orlando is Trump, Trump, Trump even when El Rato was still running
>>73660142
Hispanics
¡Yeb!
Rubio
Retired Jews
>>73660147
>>73660332
> Rubio & Jeb will probably tell their support networks in the state to stay home too
Bro, Rubio is incredibly unpopular in Florida. Can't say much for Jeb either
>A couple thousand votes would do it.
Florida turns out over 8,000,000 votes in the general brah, you need a lot more people to swing the kind of bullshit that you're imagining
>>73660280
>Romney only lost be .2%
Are you dumb nigger? He lost the popular vote by 2.9%. Even then, popular vote means fuck all, it's all about electorals. Not to mention demographics have changed and how polarizing Trump is
>>73660187
>Oh, did they poll are niggers and spics?
Uh yes they obviously did. It's called a random sample for a reason. Read it yourself.
https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/ps05102016_Sw4b42d.pdf
>>73660313
For every deluded MACA faggot cheering at a Trump rally, there's a Democrat who may not like Hillary but will turn out to vote just to stop Trump.
That's why he's going to lose. He solves Hillary's turnout/enthusiasm problem.
>>73660313
Tampa fag here. I know a decent amount of Cubans that want Trump to win. I think the retards that haven't been to Florida should just keep their opinions to themselves because they really don't know anything.
>>73660280
and romney was WAY more popular with hispanics than trump is
hell, romney was way more popular with whites than trump is, and whites are the only demographic trump beats hillary with. and considering white people are estimated to be about 2% less of the voter makeup this year...
trump = stumped
why does everyone ignore Minnesota going red? it will
>>73659942
>>73659960
Right wing media complains about Obama all the time but the difference is people actually like him and his hopeful message. Clinton has no such wide support - people simply won't turn out to vote for her as much as they did for Obama. Trump, on the other hand, has a highly energetic base and looks agile enough to potentially appeal to southern, rust belt, western states, and think about the fact that he won Florida handily over two hispanics in the primary. All I'm saying is I wouldn't rule this kind of shit out especially with Clinton as the democratic nominee. She's floundering in her primaries and there is still a lot to dig up on her (transcripts come to mind...)
>>73660584
Trump is way more popular with whites than Romney was. That makes up the difference.
>>73660588
Holy shit you retard, look at the sample sizes on those last two polls. No-one is polling Minnesota seriously at this point. That picture is worthless.
>>73660568
What is anecdotal evidence brah?
>>73660698
back to pakistan ahmed
>>73660698
>how does sample size work
They are old polls though.
>>73660568
"I have Hispanic friends"
Wow the Hispanic friends of a /pol/fag happen to support Trump. This surely applies to Hispanics everywhere. I've changed my mind, Trump is going to win.
>>73660687
nope, literally the exact opposite. romney was WAY more popular with whites than trump is right now.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politics/donald-trump-white-voters/
>trump is losing white women by 2
>romney won white women by 14
>trump is winning white men by 18
>romney won white men by 27
>trump is winning total whites by 9
>romney won total whites by almost 20
>romney did way better with minorities than trump is doing now
>romney lost by 5 million votes and 126 electoral votes
>whites are going to be a smaller percentage of the voting population every election from now on
trump would need another 30-40 million white men to turn 18 in the next 5 months (all within ohio, pennsylvania, and florida) to have a decent shot at winning
>>73660588
Minnesota will never go red. You are from Moldova, you just don't understand how deep Minnesota is in left wing politics. This is the land of Hubert Humphrey.
>>73660828
doesn't minnesota has some crypto-NDP spillover from the Tommy Douglas days? intradasting... Maybe when the USA collapses after Clinton wins we can annex it.
>>73660819
Finally someone who understands basic math.
I just hope le cancer frog dies with Trump's campaign. It's getting worse than fucking ragecomics.
>>73660588
Not a chance.
The meme magic is working
>>73660494
>1000 people each state
Fuck off nigger.
>>73660914
Yes, also North Dakota is valuable for us to acquire as well. Mostly white and native. It belongs to us.
>>73660705
What is the fact that I see the local news here and see what goes on here and have a much better sense of what is going on in this state than you do?
>inb4 muh polls and the past 2 elections
Polls don't mean too much when neither candidate has tried going after each other yet. And the past 2 elections are irrelevant because the republican candidates were terrible.
>>73660815
>Wow the Hispanic friends of a /pol/fag
I don't pick friends based on politics nor do my friends even know that I'm conservative so don't see how this is relevant. Also I never even said that I think Trump is for sure going to win I'm just calling you retarded for being so confident that Hillary is going to win Florida when there are people in this thread who are a lot more knowledgable than you in this area that are saying it isn't going to be an easy win like you seem to think.
>>73660787
Fuck up Moldova.
>>73660819
>>73660992
>b-but mah cherry-picked numbers 6 months before the actual election!!
it's funny the lengths you neets go to delude yourselves. last year you were dismissing trump out of hand, now you're shitting your pants and throwing a tantrum every single day as trump's support only goes up and up
>>73657117
Cap this
>>73660423
>Bro, Rubio is incredibly unpopular in Florida. Can't say much for Jeb either
Rubio got over 600,000 votes in the primary. Jeb was running in 4th place before he dropped out. Between them, that's about 1mil votes.
If even 10 percent of those are loyalists, and both candidates ask them to stay home, Trump is fucked.
And it's quite likely they are loyalists. Both have been active in Florida politics for over 10 years. You don't spend that long in a state without building up a support network.
Do they have mass popularity? No. But they will have enough die-hards in the state to do damage to Trump.
> Florida turns out over 8,000,000 votes in the general brah, you need a lot more people to swing the kind of bullshit that you're imagining
If Trump gets anywhere near to beating Clinton in Florida, it will be as close as Gore v Bush or closer.
>>73660819
>old CNN poll
Right now Trump is leading Ohio and within 1 point in Pennsylvania and Florida. According to >>73660494. Trump will get record men and white votes and that's how he'll win.
>>73661479
>And it's quite likely they are loyalists.
>things I made up
Go away brit. You don't know anything about our politics.
What are you
Idiotic
americans doing to help trump win
>>73661359
The only way this happens is if Hillary gets indicted. California/JewYork/Massachusetts are too entrenched with retarded liberals and non-whites at this point to ever think about going red.
It was a miracle that Reagan pulled it off in the 1980s, but even then whites were a vast majority in the US. Not anymore.
>>73661352
>last year you were dismissing Trump out of hand
No, it was obvious he was going to win the nomination. It's also obvious he's going to lose the general. It's you bandwagon faggots who deny reality on a daily basis.
Here's something else you're ignoring:
http://europe.newsweek.com/who-knew-trump-favors-amnesty-undocumented-immigrants-395512
>>73661077
Nodak Here.
You're out of your damn minds. We hold 1/3rd of the US ICBM fleet. We are #1 in the USA in wheat and honey production. We are #2 in the USA in oil, and also near the top in coal.
We also have #1 wind capacity (currently mostly untapped) in the USA.
So, our own nukes, food self sufficient, energy self-sufficient.
Oh yeah. All of us have plenty of rifles, and our kids and wives also hunt with us. One-shot, deer drops at 250 yards.
You have no chance, leafs.
>>73661352
the only one being delusional is you, trumpkid
>cherry-picked
look at the rcp averages. trump has literally never been ahead of hillary. he's been even with her a couple of times, but she has always been winning. look at his unfavorables. they have always been lower than hillary's (and that is saying a lot).
>>73661501
the CNN poll is from last week retard
and the Quinnipiac poll doesn't say anything about turnout, race, gender, or demographics. you are making shit up to support your worldview.
facts are facts. trump's only hope is white voters, and he is already doing worse than romney with them.
>>73661787
Regardless of what you say Canada IS going to be the last chance of european ethnic nationalism in the Americas continent and we will take what is racially left intact of the u.s.a.
>>73661787
You're probably right, but your post still reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZxVubqERk
>>73662001
Trump is trending up. Clinton is trending down.
>>73657117
>Drumpf basically has to win every swing state and not lose a single one
Topkek
>>73662092
>one outlier
>"trending"
>>73662092
after a month of trump trending down and clinton trending up
>>73662267
>offers nothing of substance in his rejection other than saying "UR WRONG "
>>73662261
Don't worry anon, maymay magic will make it happen XD
>>73660914
We have The Republican Party and The Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party
![Beyond-the-Pines-10-e1365693539175[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KuRdaZp.jpg "Beyond-the-Pines-10-e1365693539175[1].jpg")
>>73662010
>we will take what is racially left intact of the u.s.a.
does Canada have free speech or gun rights yet?
No.
We'll never join the Cuck Side.
>>73662421
You're the actual cuck, this is from an ethnic nationalist perspective not a cuckservative perspective such as yours.
Preservation of race always supersedes culture.
Let Hitler enlighten you here.
https://youtu.be/N2KhsTVhLMc
>>73662394
You are wrong though. You don't know what the word "trend" means.
Minnesota and Nevada have a higher chance of going to the Rpeublicans than PA.
>>73662571
Obviously you're having trouble accepting what he said is correct.
All I am hearing is * you're wrong * and that's it. No substance. Keep going though maybe you'll actually bring up an argument.
>Illinois blue
Not this time
>>73661359
You accidentally turned DC red.
>>73659942
Yeah florida is going red snownigger
Deal with it
I don't want Trump to win just because anybody who is deported will probably try to come to Europe and we'll fucking accept them.
Then again, I suppose I could then move to the US.
>>73659845
I'm in Florida, my Cuban parents are doing their part, I'm doing my part, and my sister and my brother in law are doing their part. Cubans love Trump (mainly because they don't like mexicans).
>>73662565
>You're the actual cuck, this is from an ethnic nationalist perspective not a cuckservative perspective such as yours.Preservation of race always supersedes culture.
it is you guys who have failed.
we can blame our crappiness in our minority population.
But what's your excuse? You have no dindus.
You even have a bunch of nationalists in Quebec, and you're still part of the crown.
You should be awesome, but you screwed everything up anyway.
We won't fight you, but we'll never join you.
>>73662010
>a fucking leaf
>le weed man xD
>'''''''''''''''''uncucked''''''''''''''''
>>73662854
If you don't realise why you're wrong, you are too retarded to be saved. I would rather spend my time doing more productive things.
My prediction.
It's a fitting end to this election cycle I feel.
>>73663110
Please stick to race, that is the argument to be had. Hence why I am right.
>>73663047
You dumb nigger there would still be 40 million hispanics in the US, America will be BEANED regardless of what Drumpf does
>>73663187
Senate decides the race then iirc?
Also not an entirely implausible map. Would need to know what demographic portion of the Michigan population has been leaving - unfortunately, I think I know what is left in Michigan and how it will vote..
>>73663176
Had a good laugh from what you just said.
>you're wrong
>okay why
>Wow if you don't realize why I'm right and you're right, you are too retarded to be saved . I would rather spend my time doing more productive things.
Thanks. I must try that strategy I will win every debate ever.
*You are wrong. Wow are you seriously asking me to explain why you're wrong?*
>yfw you realize you're being carl the cuck right now
>>73663203
muh fertility rate!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate
North Dakota TFR 2.24
Canada TFR 1.59
Leafs BTFO again.
guys... did we forget about meme magic or something??
>>73661071
1000 is a fine sample size if your samples are chosen correctly
learn how polling works faggot
>>73663450
Fuck off back to r/4chan
meme magic is the only way we can win
>>73663272
Why do you care about Hispanics anyway? They aren't Muslim and the majority are at least part-white in their ancestry. Unlike nig-nogs, once assimilated they tend to give up gang violence and become upstanding citizens.
Is it because they're brown and speak funny?
>>73663370
House decides President
Senate decides Vice President
It's a fucking shit show then as well because it's not each member voting for the canidate, they representatives of each state have to come together to decide who to vote for collectively.
So California's 30 fucking members have to come together and decide who to collectively vote for as a state.
Meanwhile Alaska has 1 representative and could vote for whoever
>>73663520
>imblyign
>>73660568
Cubans like Trump, Obama was an anomaly. Also most Hispanics in Florida are there legally, they honestly don't give a shit if they call a bunch of shitty beaners rapists.
Mexicans are the trash you get when you breed conquistadors with Aztecs. Send them right off to hell.
>>73657117
I would bet literally any amount of money that the map with be *at least* as blue as 2012. No blue state from 2012 will turn red, but some red states from 2012 might turn blue.
>>73657117
I want to believe that colorado and new mexico will go red.
Colorado would be buttmad about Bernie losing, and New Mexico wants the wall.
>>73663565
Who said I had anything against my own people?
>>73663102
Requirement for nationalist revolution of our need will warrant a specific high ratio of the population being white/native - this number has been out of reach for u.s.a for decades now but remains in reach of Canada.
Your criticism is null, as if I wouldn't completely tear down the elements of degeneracy in this nation even if it goes back centuries.
Calling it now
Daytona fag here. I literally don't know anyone that wants Hillary or Bernie. We got this.
>>73663709
>Wisconsin
>Ohio
>Florida
>blue
Would be pretty funny though
>>73663709
Wisconsin will be blue fuck off.
>>73663431
You seem to have forgotten what this argument was initially about.
>>73662010
So let's say Hillary wins.
What are the chances for Republicans in the 2018 midterm elections and 2020 election?
>>73663774
> my anecdotes are evidence
That's how retarded you are.
>>73663633
would you bet me 6 to 1 odds?
>>73663569
Works well for FL, OH, a few others (I think), GOP dominates the House, but some absolutely hate Trump.
>>73663709
Nevada will go Red we learned our lesson
>>73663812
Absolutely.
>>73663849
I would take you up on that bet if I didn't just graduate and was in the process of looking for a job.
>>73663808
Depends on the economy, if we are dragged into conflict, and if she starts raising taxes for muh programs, but generally, young and minority voters don't support senators and reps in midterms as well as presidential cycles.
>>73663910
I've already got a few bets going with people I know. Easy money for me.
>>73663847
this, nevadas been really red recently
But in all seriousness we're basically fucked right?
>>73659942
obama's first election was only a difference of 7 million votes huh?
>>73663400
You are clearly much more invested in this exchange than I am.
>>73663998
It all rides on the first debate and Trump will kill in it.
>>73663654
My mistake Tacobro.
>>73657117
oh/nc/pa is dreaming
>>73663808
2018 is a good year for Republicans in Senate elections. House is the same shit every 2 years. One problem is that Tea Partiers will be a larger % of Congressional Republicans in 2016-2018 than they are now, which is bad for appealing to the general electorate.
>>73664077
*will be killed in it
Other than Ad Homs and "muh deals" Trump is nothing, Hillary will dismantle that man.
>>73664000
No it hasn't you dipshit.
>>73664077
That's not even remotely true. I'd love to take your money because you're clearly very ignorant.
>>73663701
Most whites in Canada live in cities or in Quebec. Good luck staging a nationalist revolution there lmao. Baguette separatism is the best you can hope for.
>Minnesota
>Ever going Republican
Minnesota has the longest democratic voting streak, having not voted Republican since 1972. It was the only actual state to vote Democrat in 1984. Its Democratic Party isn't called the "Democratic Party", it is called
the "Democratic-Farmer-Labour Party" instead.
If trump was smart enough to literally change the course of American political history in over the past 10 months than I'm sure hes smart enough to transform himself into a more viable general election candidate. He's already going after union votes and former sanders supporters, who knows what else he has prepared?
>>73664077
>Trump will kill in it
No he won't. There's no response from the crowds, they are sworn to take a vow of silence for the entire debate. It's very substantive and will be moderated by people who will entourage him and Hillary to banter back and forth on policy.
The second debate might be worse since it's a town hall. I can see now them stacking the audience with questions about Trump's statements against minorities and women and Islam. Third debate is the same as the first.
Trump will need the mother of all coaching sessions to look good against Hillary
>PA being red
I can only hope.
>>73664174
Hillary has trouble sticking to her lines when attacked, you see if with Obama and with Bernie. I can't really see Trump "debating", but I can see Hillary making herself look very, very bad, even with more knowledge of sy, the Middle East (which she hasn't done well with, IMO).
>>73660147
You are obviously not American. Florida Hispanics are largely Cuban, very Republican, and don't give two shits about beaners and the wall.
>>73664226
>your ignorant
ok nice talking to you child
>>73664174
Has Hillary ever dismantled anything? The old hag has had everything done for her for her entire life. If she didn't suck Bill's dick in college she wouldn't even be relevant.
>>73664293
He was fucking booed in the earlier debates and beat the shit out of his opponents.
>>73664282
Jesus Christ keep talking, I can't help but giggle at Trumplets that actually believe this shit
>>73664261
>Most whites in Canada live in cities or in Quebec.
Someone knows nothing about Canada...
>>73664019
I'm afraid so anon.
>>73664261
Your pessimism sounds familiar.
https://youtu.be/IDvWyBOTVNc
Even if he loses, he's had a bigger impact in the past 10 months than the Clintons will ever have. 50 years from now, they will be as obscure as Gerald Ford is to people today, while everyone will know the name of the Trump.
>>73664431
yeah, but Trump can't play off the crowd be it cheers or boos. If he attacks it's just gonna be silence and I don't think Trump will do well.
>>73664174
the only thing Hillary dismantles is herself
>>73664500
that only means that he has to change the type of attacks he uses. the crowd was a net negative for Trump in the earlier debates.
>>73660471
He means Florida you mong. A weak ass candidate like Romney just barely lost Florida.
Who knows, maybe you're right. Don't congratulate yourself too much though. A Trump loss just primes the pump for an even more radical populist in 2028 or 2024 after the Chinese economy collapses like the house-of-cards-built-over-a-dumpster-fire that it is. Something tells me you'll like him even less than Trump
>>73664446
Really? Want to explain how this map is inaccurate?
>>73664619
Romney was completely annihilated by the media - of course, media will beat down any Republican candidate. The difference seems to be this has little to no effect on Trump in polling.
Kasich looks "good" in general election match ups - but where are all the negative ads against him yet?
>>73664293
Hillary is a boring stupid cunt. They have to hide her from the public. Running for a POTUS implies she has to face the public. You underestimate how bad she is when she opens her mouth. It could be a question about women who used to be first ladies, and she will fuck it up. All her "lies" is the results of opening her mouth in public. She needs to be hidden away from a voting public. If there is a significant number of viewers of any debate, she will lose most of those viewers. Have you seen her talk? You should watch it. She is beyond bad.
Trump HAS to win NC, Virginia, Florida, and Ohio. He has no plausible path to victory without them -- Iowa ain't gonna go for Trump before Virginia does. With those four in the bag, he would only need one more state. CO, NH, and PA seem most plausible, in that order of likelihood.
Nevada and New Mexico could also potentially be in play with Martinez as VP.
>>73664832
This is why Trump is the best candidate she could have hoped for.
She barely needs to show up. Just let him do the talking, and the people who hate him will flock to the polls.
Elections are won by turnout, and Trump guarantees Democrats will vote in droves.
>>73664923
Why is Iowa bent on voting Democratic?
>>73665094
Except Democrat turn-out is at record lows, while Republican is at near record highs.
>>73664730
Large cities are disproportionately filled with minorities. Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal all have very large populations of minorities.
Ontario has over 3 million more whites than Quebec
>>73665180
Turn-out in what? The primaries? The mid-terms? That tells us nothing about how they will behave when Trump is on the ballot.
>>73665094
>implying the same effect won't happen against her
if you read the comments on twitter- trumps tweets embracing bernie sanders- you will see many bernie voters who say they will be writing in bernie sanders just as trump told them to
>>73665094
What if he is successfully coached to stfu, and only attack Hillary on finances/funding association with Wall Street, trade deals, unreliable/changing beliefs, etc? Surely he understands he already has won the primary.
>>73665235
So when Trump tell them to go vote we should believe they will unlike how they didn't even go out to vote in the primaries? Anecdotal tbqh.
The social media presence of Bernie supporters is near fucking worthless.
>>73659942
Lol what are you talking about cuck? Trump was leading flordia against hilldog in march according to RCP
>>73665166
they are midwestern idiots far away from non-whites so they have no sense of perspective and don't understand what's at stake. protestantism and corn dulls them and so they resent trump for being "mean" and a "flashy new yorker"
>>73665313
Trump will also be questioned on his changing beliefs, trade, the economy, and foreign policy. And he can't just say "we'll make it great, believe me, lioe youve never seen it before" people want to hear exact plans in those debates.
>>73662565
>ethnic nationalist perspective
You do realize that the US was never ethnically homoegenous, right? The US was like 20% black when it gained independence, not plus almost immediately since we gained independence we have been flooded with Italians, Russians, Chinese, Poles, Irish, and Germans. Fuck the Germans, at least Irish Americans never put Ireland before the US, worst they did was go back to Ireland to kill Brits.
>>73665094
Unfortunately for her, the Trump debates will be watched. Most of the people who will be voting only know her from condensed press news snippets. She is a disaster when you see her speaking. Obama could talk. She has to be hidden away. Trump literally should let her talk. Nobody will watch the second debate.
>>73665235
How many Bernie supporters vote as a write in, vote Green party, or vote at all, might take away leads in Colorado, and maybe flip FL to GOP, but probably won't change VA or OH. The margin for Hillary in the primaries is telling.
>>73665518
>t. A fag who has never gone to the Midwest
>>73665211
There's more of *everyone* in the cities, not just minorities. That's true everywhere, but especially in Canada because it's fucking cold.
27+million of Canada's population of 35 million is urban.That includes white people. Do the math.
But hey, I'm sure you can still stage a white nationalist revolution in a country where most whites are metropolitan, where most minorities are well-behaved Indians or chinks, where crime is low, and where a faggot like Trudeau was elected in a landslide.
>>73663466
There should be a smuggie for people who don't understand how polling works.
Usually comes in with Muslims but applies here too.
>>73665562
He's not at risk of faltering on the US labor and trade platform IMO, but I think on foreign policy you're right, his angle will be a hard sale. America unfortunately will not punish Hillary twice for Iraq.
>>73664923
he could win PA and lose VA
>>73665604
You aren't wrong, but Trump is a disaster in his own way. He builds a lot of hype in certain circles, but also a lot of anger with other groups. Those angry people will turn out to vote against him, regardless of how weak Hillary is.
>>73665636
what can i say, the truth hurts. any state that voted for obama twice AND re-elected bush is a bunch of idiots
>>73665699
I never claimed there would be white nationalist revolution
It basically comes down to Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida.
All three are basically tied in the polls at this point.
If Trump can win those 3, he should be the next President
>>73665850
I think so. VA population growth is due to influx of population near DC, not the Shenandoah Valley. These new voters have jobs (well, some do) either directly from or supported by expanded federal government.
>>73665235
Meanwhile William Fucking Kristol is openly conspiring to organise a third-party to run against Trump, and other conservative figureheads are backing away rapidly. Bernie supporters are mad now, but they'll come round to Hillary once he drops out, endorses her, and starts attacking Trump.
Trump has a much bigger problem -- people on his own side who will relentlessly attack him until polling day, and maybe even launch a third party. Call them cucks all you want, but they can gather enough support to fuck le wall man over.
>>73657624
Na, not only is virginia democrat but all the people who live in NoVa and the beltway will vote clinton regardless of party affiliation.
>>73665936
Someone did. That was the point I was initially responding to. You leafs all look the same to me.
>>73665852
Hillary is acceptable in principle. That is until you listen to her. The media is throwing her softballs in that they don't show the entire tortured speech. If a lot of people watch her speak, Trump suddenly will not look so bad in comparison. Obama says stupid shit all the time too, but he is engaging. Her speeches are basically acting as an attack ads on herself. You think she is not so bad, but you watch here, and she is that bad. Trump on the other hand is entertaining. A lot of people who really despise Trump are basing their opinion on others opinions about him. His speaking ability is not his weak spot. She is literally going from somewhat acceptable but corrupt candidate to what the fuck did I just see candidate. She opens her mouth and fucks up within 10 minutes. And the rest is colorless boring shit with no point and purpose. She is only acceptable if you don't see her. When you see her in action, she seizes to be an acceptable alternative.
Wisconsin, Michigan and Florida will go for Trump - guaranteed
>>73666028
>>73665850
this was my thinking to but a big strike against it is PA hasn't gone red since 1988. before obama clinched the blackvote, bill clinton lost VA both times and bush II won it both times
>>73664619
Check out Trumps' unfavorable ratings among hispanics sometime.
HIllary is going to win this election by Obama 2008 level margins.
>>73666415
also trump could very well pick jim webb as VP to bolster his VA vote
>>73666333
You make a solid argument anon and got wicked trips doing so. Trump's problem is what he says, not how he says it. Hillary's is the opposite. It'll be interesting to watch. I still think that Trump has generated enough animosity that it won't matter if Hilldog is a trainwreck, but we'll see.
>>73657117
>Clinton Winning VA
no.
>>73660021
>hispanics
Cubans, significant difference.
>>73666415
trump is a different beast as polls show
>>73666756
cubans are hispanic.
>>73660588
Min didn't even go red for Reagan
>>73666923
not mexicans
>>73666333
>His speaking ability is not his weak spot.
Yes it is.. He's incoherent. He never answers a question.
>>73666923
yeah but its like saying spaniards are beaners, cubans are very right wing. the people that turn florida blue are blacks who want mo mony for dem programz and grandmas who voted for clinton twice
>>73666946
mexicans are hispanic too..
>>73661680
whites are still 73% of the population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Americans
and Nixon did it as well. Also
>non-whites
>Massachusetts
its still over 75% white
>>73667025
I guess it's because they fled from communism
>>73666923
when you look at florida you see miami and think of cubans everywhere, and while thats true you dont take into account the vast, VAST amounts of blacks in that state. they usually dont vote. they voted for obama because they wanted a black in the white house and white people got bored of voting
>>73666994
He answers questions all the time. On his own, his answers may seem terrible but compare them to how Hillary answers
>>73666994
its called politics, be vague on what you see as a weak point and be loud on your strengths.
>>73663203
non-hispanic is a fucking meme
i guess Spaniards are not white now?
>>73657117
This is what I have if the primaries were representative of the general election.
This map is based off republican vs democrat votes
A couple of these states could easily flip. Philadelphia being the most significant.
>>73667296
>a couple of these *states*
>philadelphia
Black-Italian American here and I will be voting for Trump. You guys will start to get more support from us once more info comes out about Hillary. Also most of us hate Mexicans.
>>73657483
shut up Hillary and stop ruining the moment
>>73667296
WV is not republican.
What.
Also Kentucky not Republican.
K
>>73667428
>black Italian
Kek
Make me some pizza mayate
>>73667283
Neither are the Irish, Italians, French, etc They all was and is black. Also Anglos was black in ancient times too
>>73657117
>he thinks Trump will win florida
>>73667532
HOL UP
>>73657117
>michigan not going red when the UAW come out and officially support Trump
>>73667558
But we wuz the Romans but then the honkey ass germanics and moors ruined our great black civilization.
>>73657117
PA
PA
PA
nah senpai
>>73659668
Ohio is going red. Hillary has a 15pt gap in male support here and the more she tries this logic loop "It's time for a womyn because it's time for a womyn!" shit the wider that gets.
>>73662571
Brush your teeth, Mohammad, before you get cavities like the slimy limeys you beheaded when you took over England.
>>73667674
shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
>>73667532
That's Ivory Coast, their idiotic flag is Ireland's reversed.
>>73663187
plz this
>>73666642
> I am but a vessel for Kek's wisdom that flows through trips
Her issue is small talk. She is trying to relate to what she believes are shit kicking serfs, and she makes up stuff that she believes would be entertaining for plebs. Then she comes up with insane shit like sniper fire in Bosnia and other wtf did she just say stories that were clearly designed to make small talk with normies. She herself is a kween, but being a pleb herself she is not even playing that part well. The result is constant lying that she doesn't think is a big deal because it was just trying to fit in with people she despises. The main talking points are read off teleprompter and a written by her staff. When you see that combo its absolutely disgusting. So subconsciously people can't stand her after watching her address them. She is not likable and she doesn't seem competent either.
>>73667766
t. Paddy O'Brian
>>73657117
>Ohio for trump
Hmm
>>73667844
this. I don know why Irish is in denial about bein black. Italians, Frenchies, and Swedes have accepted they blackness and is proud of it.
>>73667983
>>73668046
it's a joke you fucking leaf
>>73667393
>>73667481
he said based on the current primaries - WV and KY haven't voted for both parties yet, pay the fuck attention
>>73668046
gtfo Canada go club some seals or whatever you do.
>>73667820
>So subconsciously people can't stand her after watching her address them.
This is not true. You literally have to spoonfeed the normie retards who watch her speeches. Hillary's playing them, and she's right to do so; they're playable people.
This begs the question--why aren't you playing them harder?
>>73657117
Plausible
>>73668465
:(
Mfw my countrymen buy into Hillary, who couldn't on her own sell a car to a complete fool.
>>73657117
why does everyone assume new york will instantly be blue?
>>73668673
NYC
>>73668713
wouldn't it favor Trump more who built a lot of it up from the shit pile it was in the 80's to early 90's?
>>73668713
This. Even if every other county goes red, it'll still be blue
>>73657117
your map highlights how far behind trump is at the moment. not only does trump have to win all 3 major swing states, he needs to also win both iowa and north carolina (which are currently toss-up or leaning democrat, depending on which analyst you check with).
the fact that hillary can lose ohio, pennsylvania, and florida AND STILL WIN with iowa plus north carolina shows how bad things are for trump.
>>73668798
he just needs about 5% larger white turnout from 2012 and he wins all of those
>>73668762
No. They don't care about an actual New Yorker that had a bested interest in his community. They will choose the soulless drifter Hillary because deep down most of them have no loyalty to their homeland either.
>>73668903
1 - white turnout is estimated to be down by 2% from 2012 to 2016
2- trump is currently doing significantly worse with whites than mitt romney did with them in 2012, see >>73660819
>>73669042
errr, not white turnout, but white proportion of voter population
>>73668798
>shows how bad things are for trump.
You mean shows how bad things are for any republican candidate.
>>73669042
Down 2% of voter proportion in 4 years? Wtf? Do Mexicans actually have this many children?
Also, time to end birthright citizenship. There, I've said it.
>>73669111
White turnout is up dramatically. More than enough to offset the population shift.
>>73669042
>believing a CNN poll
Mate, the democrats have alienated all their working class white union members. They're flocking to Trump in massive numbers
>>73669221
not nearly as bad as it is for trump. remember that most of the other 16 republican candidates beat hillary in head to head polling, and hillary had lower likability than any candidate in history except for trump. as trump won more, the electoral math got worse.
>>73669325
are you basing this on the primaries? turnout is up in primaries, but there are no indications that those are new voters. they are simply people that voted in the 2012 presidential elections but not the 2012 primaries.
>>73669527
except trump is doing worse among whites than romney. you don't get more votes with less voters.
>>73669527
Imagine a union guy in Wisconsin going "Yeah, BLM. And uh... Yeah, LBGT equality. And bring in more cheap, illegal labor."
They know they've been ignored by Democrats for a while now.
>>73669858
Your poll is faulty. Trump just shattered the Republican Primary Voter record and there are still a few primaries to go. Many of these voters are members of the white working class. There is massive Trump enthusiasm among white voters.
>>73669989
>I'll ensure your employers stay in the US
>I'm a woman and he's a sexist
This election will be an absolute blowout if Trump can just refine his answers a bit
>>73659942
Florida swings often, could go either way
>>73657117
I'm skeptical on his ability to win Pennsylvania.
Voter turnout is really going to decide a lot this election. Obama got record numbers democrats and minorities to come and vote, it remains to be seen whether or not hillary gets a similar boost from being a woman or if Bernie splits the democratic party in two a la teddy roosevelt's bull moose shit and hands the presidency to trump
Young people can barely be fucking bothered to vote yet are far and away the most vocal on social media and in the news, Id take everything this far out with a grain of salt
If trump goes on the warpath versus clinton and the investigation continues, she doesn't even need to be found guilty for her to be eviscerated in front of the country's moderates
>>73670474
Exactly. He won the primary, we know what's in his mind, if he will calm the fuck down during a debate, he'll probably do well.
>>73670246
are you basing this on anything other than your own opinion? can you show any poll - anything - that has trump winning white voters by more than 20%?
i went and checked if there were any more recent polls that broke down the matchup by race, and there happened to be a PPP poll released today.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_51016.pdf
trump wins whites by 15%. more than the CNN poll, but still below romney's 20%.
whites prefer romney to trump. you may feel different, but you don't speak for white people.
>>73668465
Most of her lying comes from small talk. I don't think normies even listen to the shit that she reads. The small talk is where she gets caught. They can understand inconsistencies in small talk, and they understand that she is boring and uninspiring. They just think she is serious when she reads teleprompter. Stupid shit she gets called on all comes from the anecdotal parts of her speeches.
>>73670691
He doesn't need to win white voters by more than 20%, he just needs 5% of whites that didn't vote to actually come out and vote. Following the normal split, that will win him the election.
As of New York, Trump's primary turnout was 32% higher than Romney's turnout at that time in 2012. This should translate to an increased turnout during the general. Whether that will be a 5% larger white turnout, I don't have any hard evidence to verify
