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pro refugee piece of shit
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>>73635302
>kill
>no longer kill
he ain't even a blue-eyed zombie white (crakka) walker.
this is jus some mo white rayciss bool-sheeeiiiit
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>>73635302
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He's literally the Mary Sue insert character of the series.

Anyone who thinks he's actually dead is a moron.
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>>73635302

Those refugees were fellow northern men. They weren't african, chinese or middle eastern. They were just fellow white northern men who happened to be on the wrong side of the wall when it was built.
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>>73635528
>>73635516
jon snow is literally angela merkel of game of thrones
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Olly Did Nothing Wrong
Wildling fuckers literally killed and ate his family in front of him.
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>>73635575
>degenerates like this are northern men

nice divide and conquer tactics kike
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>>73635302
no, he realized that if he let them in he could get them to fight against the WWs and eventually against Danaerys' army, and between those they would all be killed off.

If anyone, Jon Snow is the most nationalist person in the North. Through one deal, he was able to solve the lack of an army needed to fight two impending enemies AND exterminate all of the savages.
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>>73635773
exactly poor little olly. niggers pillage his town rape his mum and dad. he somehow escapes only to be cucked again by a traitor like jon snow

and then to top it off when jon snow finallys gets rekt for his fuckery. he comes back to life

this show is cuck porn
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The circumstances were different. If a man gets killed by a white walker he turns into one himself. There is already a lot of them it would be a terrible to add to them even more. Besides, those wildings are a tough breed and can hold their own. They'd be an asset to defending the realm I'll wager.
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>>73636026
literally the game of thrones equivalent of "dude they're good for the economy"
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>>73636092
>dude they're good for the economy

fuck up wetback faggot
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>>73635878
Northerners in GoT are degenerate as fuck. Just look at Ramsay.
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>>73635621
>not Khaleesi
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>>73635302
white refugees, its fine
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it's such a stupid non-issue

they all know the literal, borderline unstoppable apocalypse of the living dead is coming and that he's letting the wildlings in because they need them to fight

but characters say things implying it's some complex issue, like he's a wildling lover or that it's politics or whatever

why does NO ONE in the whole night's watch scenario start saying "yeah he let them in but you know the APOCALYPSE IS COMING AND WE NEED THEM TO FIGHT IT"

>hurr snow you would destroy the watch we've always fought those wildlings back

yeah well alister can we please at least mention that the fucking APOCALYPSE is happening?

>oh yeah... yeah snow I mean, good thing you brought that ship up, that's a pretty big deal

and they fucking know the zombie end of the world is real at this point, why is like more than half the watch not even giving a fuck and acting like he just let in some refugees? why don't they talk about the obvious death wave on the horizon more often, like, a LITTLE more often???
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>>73636246
I didn't say economy, I said defending the wall. You want to fight the whitewalker army or 2x its size if make them stay out.
Economy =/= Zombie/skelltal army
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>>73636252
>CLEGAINEBOWL
SIEGHYPE
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>>73636361
khaleesi isnt even a real character. nothing she does is relatable to anything in real life because her character isn't set in reality

alot of the women in this show are like this
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>>73635302
First off, Wildlings are white people so it's okay.

Secondly, the Others present a much greater threat and are the actual reason the Night's Watch exists. Caring about the Wildlings in this context would be like hating on Slavs when aliens are invading.
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>>73636453
this desu, Dornish refugees on the other hand...
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>DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S SON EVER AGAIN
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>>73636453
>>73636574
>White refugees are okay

Tell that to the Romans

If you even are a refugee, you probably fucked up as a people will fuck up again.
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>>73636474
>>73636490
>dude germany will suffer a serious economic downturn if we dont import the 3rd world

its no different. they always have a reason. every pro refugeee cuck in human history has had a reason. none of it is valid. the most important possession you have in this world is your own people
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>>73636540

Cersei is a very accurate portrayal of the average woman when she gets in a position of power though.
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>>73636574
>this degenerate is white

nice try m8
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>>73636764
True, Rome died due to a similar situation. However, those people were still white and had the potential to build great civilization. Modern sand nigger refugees will never have that potential, not even in 1,000 years.
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>>73635302

>sjws like daenerys,jon and gorilla woman still alive
>based characters like tywin, stannis and hound dead

im just watching this """epic""" series to witness one of those sjws get killed by a random dothraki horde
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>>73636574
>hating on slavs when Aliens are invading
Did you read the Worldwar books too?
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>this degenerate is white

this is what /pol/ actually believes
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>>73635302
omg australia, ur shitposting level is great, OMG
he will use the refugees to fight the blue zombies
and their women are qt
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>>73637036
Just heard about it for the first time earlier today, actually.
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If they're white, they're alright.
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are white walkers white?
will they do anything besides walking?
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>>73635573
Dany Tyrion and Jon are mary sues that will save the world and ride Dragons and then will make Westeros a democracy in which women can vote and then Dany becomes permanent president of Westeros, Jon mayor of the North, Tyrion mayor of the Westerlands and Brienne mayor of the Stormlands.
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>>73636689
Literally this kek
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>>73635575
Wildlings are mostly First-men race, northerners have more Andal blood.
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>>73636252
>Dude Germans are such C-ucks just look at Merkel.
Ramsey being degenerate doesn't mean that all northerners are.
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>>73636252

There only degenerate in the show because D&D are faggots. Theyre based in the books.
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>>73636920
>tywin
my nigga
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>>73636917
>had the potential to build a great civilization.
Wildlings are niggers just white niggers. The only one that are not savages are book thenns.
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>>73636902
Thens aren't even human
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>>73636689

Holy shit i laughed at that part, fuck you /pol/ you ruined me
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>>73637580
You're not too far off probably, but I don't think the series will have THAT happy of an ending.
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What happens in the show is just more proof that building a wall won't work.
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>>73635878

Thats exactly how Germans acted towards the Romans shit head snow nigger.
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>>73636246

>see flag
>move on
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>>73638686
Leave it to the SJWs D&D, maybe it will be worse.
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>>73638921
Practically every woman on the show gets raped and the ones that haven't look like men, how sjw.
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burce dis is not politic
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>>73636765

Is this your national sport m8?
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>>73638561
Stupid changes
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The White Walkers are even worse immigrants than the Wildlings.

Wildlings = East europeans
White walkers = muslim terrorists

I would let in the army of East Europeans any day to avoid the muslims growing in numbers.
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>>73635878

Nobody likes the fookin' Thenns m8.
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They say in the series many times that the northerners are the same 'maybe a little rougher but the same as us'

it's not even relative to a Scotland/England divide its an England/England divide
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>>73639023
The rape thing is just to add shock value. The only woman raped so far was Sansa. The thing is, they don't know how to make "strong women characters". Look at the sandsnakes.
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>>73639358
>The only woman raped so far was Sansa

one of the few women not to be raped yet
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>>73638098
D&D as in wizards of the coast? what do they ave to do with it?
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>>73639358
hound had to save her from being raped earlier as well she's gonna be fucked up in the head now
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>>73635878
I fucking hate Thenns
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>>73639352
>>73639236
>>73639057
>>73638894
>>73638837

>dude race is only skin deep

BIG
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>>73639668
GIANT
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>>73639668

Comparing real races to races in low fantasy is retarded
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>>73639200
This is correct
Wildlings aren't fucking islamists, WW are
And the WW convert Wildlings into their ranks
Therefore Jon Snow maximum based
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>>73635302

I fucking came to Ramsey Bolton's antics in this season so far. I fucking hope he doesn't die soon.
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>>73639352
the story for the throne wars is based off of the war of the roses. a internal conflict in england

the wall stuff is scottland. probably the build up to the battle of hastings. wildlings are low lander scotts and white walkers are highlander + viking horde

which means mr.litch king guy gets decapitated and a shit ton of people die
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>>73635302
>watching or reading GoT
>a series which claims to be "a realistic depiction of medieval society", while actually being more fantastical than even the Silmarillion
SHIGGY DIGGY
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>>73636689

RARE
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>>73635302
Well, it's a different scenario. In A Song of Ice and Fire, the refugees are running away the White Walkers and Wights.

Unlike in real life, the refugee crisis was orchestrated by Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia and Hillary Clinton and her Neo-Con friends to flood the West with Islamic cohorts. To get rid of Islam, they have show the world how incompatible it is with the West.
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>>73636689
Well it's technically his wife's brother, so it's not too bad.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT.
WE HAVE ACTUAL MUSLIMS INVADING OUR COUNTRIES AND YOU TALK ABOUT A GOD DAMN CARTOON!?
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>>73640009

This desu
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>>73637750

Northerners do have more Andal blood, but its practically non-existent in its magnitude.
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>>73639668
How can white men even compete?
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>>73639855
You know whats gonna happen. Jon will take the North because D&D didn't like that Stannis was a legendary battle commander that would fucking rape both Roose and Ramsey. No. They HAD to kill the most based man in the universe in order to continue their stupid story with their favourite characters.
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>>73638921

To elaborate further, George calls the series A Song of Ice and Fire.

You can gather a lot of hints from the title as to what the ending of the series will be.
He means "Song" not in a musical sense, but in the sense of an epic poem.

His basic moral that he's been driving at the entire series is that history repeats itself.
So in the end, the characters will basically be back at square one somehow to show that human struggles never end or something.
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>>73640009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCe0Nz7Ie90&feature=youtu.be SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>73639763
>ASOIAF
>low fantasy

I don't think you know what that means
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>>73639932
Lurk more leaf.
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>>73640196
JUST
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>>73640145
Doesn't matter how George sees it if the producers are butchering his work with stupid plotlines and favoring characters. George left the show after season 3 because he needs to continue Winds of Winter. D&D don't know how this will end. Everything they are doing are their ideas, which are horrible.
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>>73639358
Sansa wasn't raped in the books, she's still a qt 3.14 virgin
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>>73636540
>goes on about muh values which are retarded and arbritrary
>only has authority because she fucked someone with it or was born into it
>basically handed everything on a silver platter,
>nonetheless a total inability to run anything practically, just ends up ruining everywhere she goes because she harped on about idealism without a realistic plan of action or any foresight of consequences
Pretty realistic desu.
The whole "scheming psycho handing her an entire army just for 1 dragon and not at all predicting treachery" was just retarded and possibly the biggest bullshit asspull in TV history.
Could've at least pretended it was witchcraft or something.
>>73639501
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
The Jew show directors.
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>>73635302
i agree
it was his fault
he's a gary stu to dany's mary stu
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>>73640494
I know i know. Jeyne Poole best friend.
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>>73635302
>couldn't hold the wall by themselve
>either they become enemies or allies, no inbetween
Wow, what a traitor he is. Brought peace and reinforced the wall's forces.
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>>73640508
oh.

>>73638288
the hound isnt dead. he is in a monastery on a tiny island.
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>>73640508
Dany is the WORST character on the show, at least in the books they don't try to wash away her mistakes but throw them blatantly in your face all the time that she's a fuck up, the show just blames everything wrong in her life on someone else and raises her on a pedestal.
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>>73640494
Not for long. Littlefinger is going to be all up in that soon.
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It's like letting in Mexicans to help fight off hordes of Muslims, it is not ideal but it is much better than the alternative.
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>>73639358
>The only woman raped so far was Sansa.

>implying married women can be raped
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>>73640633
What happened to Jeyne is worse than what happened to Sansa in the show tbqhwyf
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>>73640639
>dude germany will go bankcrupt if we dont let the refugees in
>its literally not an option we have to let them in
>or we die

fuck off shill
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>>73640742
Nah, he has to save her for Harry (or is it Robert?) the Heir, after little lord arryn has his "accident"
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>>73640725
And in the books being the most boring with Areo. Dance Dany chapters where a nightmare.
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>>73635302
Stfu xenophobic shit
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>>73635302
>caring about Normie tier shows
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>>73638098
>Ramsay
>based
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>>73640922
I hope Euron comes and fucks her shit up to make things more interesting.
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>>73639932
Cyprus isn't rare, how fucking new are you?
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>>73641107
Can't wait for Victarion and the battle of Memereen. And ofcourse the battle for Winterfell. Stannis the true king.
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>>73637262
this raises the question
>are blacks good at anything except running?
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>>73641107
im kind of glad they ran out of books to be honest,
now they revisit all the plot arcs they skipped before. i really liked the iron islands in the books.
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>>73641663
Well, when you look at what they did to Dorne you can see it's not always such a good thing.
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>>73641824
they didnt even reavealed doran's plan.
he apreared like a complete fool. :(
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>>73635575
So you'd totally be cool with Muslims as long as they're white?
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>>73635302
I'd say it's more like the english and french putting aside their differences and uniting the defend themselves from the muslim hordes
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>>73642044
>>73641824
No riverrun siege
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>>73642239
yea, i already forgot lol. they basicaly dropped anything that has to do with military manovers or strategy. what about cersei dispersing the counsil and becoming the worst ruler in human history?
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Only difference between him and Merkel is she would let the white walkers in
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>>73642655
Or Aegon and JonConn invading the Stormlands.
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>>73642196
Yes actually
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>>73642882
Or Aegon at all.
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>>73635302
The difference is that he let wildlings in to fight together against white walkers. That's like France letting in Brits to fight against Muslims.
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>>73642994
>>73642882
lets lock him up for being gay!f
uck being wounded taking a castle to free his armies to fight off invaders, this is too complicated!
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>>73643426
What? You're thinking of Loras not Aegon.
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>>73644133
yea, he wanted to fight off iron islanders invading highgarden, this entire story arc is now ruined...
when cersei admiral left her the moment things went saur was fucking epic...
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>>73635302

agreed
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>>73644336
I'm mostly upset about the lack of Aegon in the books.
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>>73645022
In the show I mean, no Aegon in the show.
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>>73635302
Don't say that about my favorite bull!
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>>73645022
i think they will talk about him more now through bran visions.
i had a realisation just last week what killed liana.
i read that over a year ago lol.
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>>73636689
YOU FUCKING THIEF, ILL BURN YOU TO THE STAKE FOR THIS
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>>73635302
Fuck the shows for doing that. In the books the situation was
>if we keep them out we waste time fighting them and others gain 80000 soldiers
>if we let them through we might get fucked in the ass and they may pillage everything, but the others will not have 80000 more wights. And we can use them
They are basically imported because there is literally no other option. Of course the sjw feminist show writers made them """"""peaceful"""""" refugees instead of the savages they are in the books
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>>73638686
>sjw fantasyland
>happy ending

I keked
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>>73636474
The reason is that they have spent 8000 years or so fighting them, and know the wildlings hate them, and totally outnumber them. Jon snow was literally the only thing holding it together, at least in the books. The show will probably be faggy about it though
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>>73635302

They are white and loyal. They should be allowed in.

Daenarys wants to bring an army of shitskins.
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>>73635516

Stupid bitch could have saved lots of time just giving him the Last Kiss. She's supposed to be a Priest(ess) of R'hllor but doesn't know the Last Kiss?

The dragons are back, thus the Last Kiss works now.

Stupid fucking pompous children's birthday party magician.
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>>73635573
Well seeing him come back from the dead and walk around and talk to people and quit as Lord Commander after executing the curly headed fuck and little kid made sure everyone knew he was alive
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>>73636833
They neutered her retardedness in the show though. Basically every female character got a boost from book to show
>danayerus is literally invincible and can't do anything wrong, rather than frightened teen
>Brienne is stronk independent woman rather than bumbling idiotic oaf
>cersei is way less of a fuckup, and is much closer to neutral gray
Fuckin faggots ruining my series
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>>73646188
wildlings are just retarded iceniggers who cant make good steel

literally cannibals
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>>73646188

>Heil Hitler get

This.

But there's no Green Guts. No Frog. No Young Gryffe. Just fucking Tyrion playing dragon friend, and "DANY GO TO VAES DOTHRAK! IT IS KNOWN!" It is known.
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>>73638098
Ramsay is literally pathetic in the books. He is a weak bastard who tortures people for fun, but is a total creep about it. Just a wierdo in general
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I haven't read the books but this season already feels less like the previous seasons writing. Things like Jon snow coming back to life and reeks father getting randomly killed so his sister can become Lord of the iron islands and rescue him so he can be theon again doesn't seem like something George Martin would do
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>>73646188
>letting in Sven
WILDLINGS WILL BE ON THE SHORES WITH "UNSULLIED WELCOME" SIGNS

THEN YOU WILL REALIZE HOW BADLY YOU FUCKED UP
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>>73640742
Little finger is the least predictable character in the books. We don't know his endgame, but it involves Sansa, and depending not on his purpose you may be right. He either wants her to have a claim on the north when danyeryus comes over and/or the crown collapses, or he wants her as a fucktoy. Or a trade for something, but nothing short of something huge. He doesn't just have a pretty girl, he has the key to the north. I hate how the show made him so transparent and 1- dimensional. Who the fuck knows what he will decide to do
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>>73636505
Cannot wait for it!!!
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>>73646443
So that's what happened ehh? No, in the series theon is almost certainly goin to be executed for a million counts of treason by Stannis. Read the series, way less faggy bullshit.
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>>73646443
The lord of the Iron islands died in the book. We were theorizing John wasnt actually dead for years.

As well as other shit like John being Eddards sisters son.
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>>73641049
>>73641049

Show Ramsey is a cartoonish villain who succeeds far too often.

Book Ramsey is a cartoonish villain that drools and throws temper tantrums and is nowhere near being remotely intelligent.
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>>73646443
Also the iron islands was getting really relevant in the book because of 2 characters not mentioned: Victorian and crow eye or one eye or whatever the fuck his name is
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The Wall isn't meant to keep out the Wildlings. The original purpose was to keep out the Others. The Others are illegal immigrants, and the Wildlings are legal immigrants. Sure some people still may not want the Wildlings on their side, but if they can assimilate and not cause a problem and if the even help make westeros great again, then it's not a problem. There's nothing good about the Others getting through the wall
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>>73646443

The only thing the show did was propose that it was Crow's Eye that did it. I'm actually surprised that they even included the King's Moot.
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>>73642196

Except those north of the wall aren't Muslims and pray to the old gods.
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>>73647171
Euron is in the show though.
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>>73647044

Jon's some minor lordling's daughter's son. Ned fucked her when he was shipwrecked on The Sisters.

It's over with. Theorizing at this point is like trying to theorize over what Aemon meant by "Kill the boy, Jon Snow."

If you don't get it by now, you're too fucking stupid.
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>>73647256

In two scenes, and doesn't have half the influence.
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>>73642196
>So you'd be totally cool with Brits even though you are a German so long as they are white?

There is literally an army of ice demons coming to skull fuck everyone. Sometimes you just have to expand the tribe in the name of a common enemy.
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>>73647399
They haven't even started on the iron islands yet in the show, they showed Euron dying and Damphair telling Asha that there will be a kingsmoot, that's it.
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>>73647496

>expecting a dead man to understand how to survive

He's zombie fodder. Throw wild fire at his ass, and move on.
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>>73635302
>>/tv/
those faggots have like 24/7 GoT threads throughout the year even when the show is not airing
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>>73645454
What do you think she died in childbirth or something?
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>>73647357
what killed Lyanna then?
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>>73647630
yes.
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>>73647554

>Euron

I thought Euron was the younger brother. Alongside Damphair and Crow's Eye.


I get those boatnigger names confused.
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>>73647649
Some think Danaerys is the child of Rhaegar and Lyanna.
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>>73646735

If you have an hour to kill, you can watch Preston Jacob's theory series on what he feels Littlefinger's endgame is.

He uses lots of text evidence and he's probably right on 90% of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w118h5-Xa9U
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>>73647649

She melted.

It's explicitly stated in A Dance of Dragons.

Jon's mother was not Lyanna.
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>>73647693
Oh wait I meant Balon dying not Euron, Euron and Crow's Eye are the same person. There's also Victarion, he's one of the brothers.
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>>73635302
Yeah, this is not even close to being the same situation. Jon Snow did the right thing.
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>>73646443
>>73647210
That scene was complete shit though desu senpai
Way too unrealistic and rushed.
Long lost degenerate brother just shows up on your bridge in the middle of a storm one night when you happen to be walking across.

Shheeeeeiiiiit
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>>73647837

That's it. I was missing Victarion.

Thanks, bro.

It's Damphair, Euron, and Victarion.

Not that it matters. Crow's Eye has The Horn.
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>>73648044
There was also a fourth but.... Euron saw to him not making it to adulthood...
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>>73647940
Yea I didn't even know what was going on

He just randomly died
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>>73647940

Arr Arr mentions in DVD bonus material that he supplied the creators with spoilers in case they overtake the books.

... I'm worried. But I would not be surprised that Euron killed Balon.

I'd be very surprised about Ramsey killing Roose Bolton.

But also not.

I don't like this season. It's too fucking sketchy.
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Does anyone else think Jon's character changes in A Dance with Dragons?

Dance is supposed to take place like 5 minutes after the end of A Storm of Swords, but he seems like a completely different character.
He was an asshole in the first 3 books, but in book 5 he turns into a major asshole.

Did George just forget how to write Jon Snow's character after 10 years?
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>>73647357
>>73647044
I always figured Jon was actually Robert's bastard, but Eddard took the blame to prevent a scandal for the freshly-coronated Robert.
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>>73635302
>let in irish to keep out the mudslimes
what's wrong with that?
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>>73648154

That was such a huge shock for me. It felt so fucking comical though.

"What happened to Balon?"

"He's dead, Jimron. He's dead."

"RRRRARGH WHAT IS DEAD MAY KINGSMOOT NOW!"


:V???

(Fourth book was such a fucked up book.)
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>>73647868
Letting a horde of wildlings past the wall is not the right thing. Thorne did nothing wrong.
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>>73647834
havent read the last one as of yet :(
is it said plainly?
if ned is the father its the only time he act inhonorably, and it gives no answer what he promissed lianna.

>>73647744
how can that be? im pretty sure danny was born in kings landing. if she wasnt his sister viseries would have known, and would have told danny wouldnt he? would being born to Rhaegar make her claim stronger than his?
how were they even united?
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>>73648044
I thought victarion had the horn on board, which is why it was such a big deal that he was at mereen, and also why he can try to marry dany
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>>73639894
ino it was war of roses

Stark = York
Lannister = Lancaster

but they way the wildings are spoke about they were part of the same country and speak the same language as Winterfell but whacked a wall there cos it was the most narrow point
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>>73648371
Fourth book is the best in the series.

Only plebs think it's a bad book.
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>>73648454
No, she was born at Dragonstone, I don't really believe the theory myself but it relies a lot on some fairly circumstantial evidence like the flora she saw outside her childhood home not matching the climate of where she was told she grew up and using the excuse that Viserys was too young to really know and that they were united before he was old enough to really know.
>>73648543
In the books he has the horn on his boat, in the show he doesn't exist.
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Refugees aren't inherently a bad thing

The refugees the west has been receiving from Africa and the Middle East are bad, and the recent wave of millions of refugees are pure shit

But for example, Vietnamese refugees were fine and German refugees before them.

Jon did literally nothing wrong knowing what he knows about what will happen If he didn't let the wildlings through
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>>73648670
>shitty third rate characters no one cares about
>great
Nice contrarian and patrician opinion, you may have been browsing /mu/ too much lately
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>>73648670

No. It's a good book.

But I only appreciated it after I was done with it.

A Storm of Swords was captivating from start, to finish.

But I went through A Feast For Crows the whole way through making that face from the "When you find out your friend is transphobic/racist/bigoted" reaction. It was when I was done that I was able to appreciate it fully. It has to be taken in it's entirety, because piece by piece it's shitty. It's a sum of it's parts.
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>>73648780
Ok, it's just the guy I said to implied crows eye had it, which isn't true bc Victarion is going rouge
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>>73648670
AFFC is universally considered the worst book

Get your pleb ass contrarian opinions out of here

ASOS is objectively the best book
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>>73648971
He's probably right as far as the show goes. I'm sure show Euron has the horn, and I don't recall Victarion going rogue in the books, maybe I should reread aDwD
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>>73648256
He turns into an asshole when he becomes Lord Commander, he tells Sam he's not the same Jon Snow when he became Lord Commander
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>>73648852
The Cersei chapters are awesome, the Jaime chapters are great, the Iron Islands and Dorne chapters are great, the Braavos chapters are great, plus more of Littlefinger's scheming is revealed.

I mean it's technically only half a book because you're supposed to read it along book 5 to get the chronology right.

>muh book 3 is the best book
>stuff actually happens XD
The great dialogue, world building and character arcs are what makes this series great.
If you're reading it for "stuff happening." this isn't the series for you.
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>>73648256
>>73649278
It makes sense, a young man thrust into a leadership position usually takes on a dickish mantle to try and assert their new-found authority.
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>>73649023

AFFC was very much shit compared to ASOS, but how do you follow up ASOS?

AFFC was a shit mess going through, but it was a necessary respite before ADOD.

But it was also fucked up. And Brienne is a fucking retard, holy shit.
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>>73648780
wasnt the house with the red door her first mamory? that was already in the free cities.
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>>73649409
Too be honest my opinion of AFFC would be far greater If It wasn't for all the awful Brienne chapters. All of them but the last 3 are pure filler.
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>>73647197
found the wetback

build it
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>>73649409

The greatest chapter in the entire series is a Brienne chapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sjZHxEZnmE
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>>73649458
She was told she grew up in Braavos to some well to do lord, Braavos is a very rainy cold place, not the sort of tropic location where you could grow lemon trees. Some argue that Dorne is the perfect climate for lemon trees and that it's possible she was raised there.
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>>73649355
>Brienne chapters
>Alayne chapters
>Most of the Iron islands chapters
>Dorne in general

Only good chapters were Jaime, Cersei and Arya
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>>73649637
that actually fits...
hmm.
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>>73636920

>hound dead

> somebody doesn't know about CLEGANEBOWL 2016
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>>73649814
Personally I don't think it holds a lot of water, I want it to be true but honestly I don't know, it seems a stretch.
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Hodor confirmed for next king on the iron throne
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>>73649637
>>73649814

She was a child. Imagine the memories of your childhood and how believable they are.
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I can't believe you guys watch this fucking trash.

Fantasy is for redditors who can't deal with reality.
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>>73635302
naw the white walkers are the mussies in this scenario. They disregard culture all for the sake of destroying what others had built. If those south of the wall represent western culture. The wildlings are more like russia. Yeah they dont agree on much and hate how each achive their goals, but goddamn fucks those muslims....i mean whitewalkers.
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>>73650148
A LEAF

L
E
A
F
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>>73650148
The show is terrible. The books are amazing.
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>>73640705
fucking kike throwing spoilers around
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>>73650529
The mountain kills cersie
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>>73650529
Why would you come in this thread if you aren't caught up?
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>>73650148
>Me? I'm an intellectual. I only enjoy reading philosophy and watching documentaries

Get off your high horse faggot. You can do both you know? Maybe one day you'll grow out of the smugness that comes with what you watch or read.
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>>73646735
Thought the prevailing theory was littlefinger straight up started the war in westeros. Hiring the stable ninja for Bran and telling the Starks it was the Lannisters and blah blah blah. He's kind of a prevailing conniving bad guy type.
Though I get most of this information from nerds on youtube.
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>>73650864
It actually was the Lannisters though.
If I remember, there's even a part where Joffrey brags that it was him who hired the assassin to kill Bran.

Now whether or not it was Littlefinger who coerced him into doing it is a different matter.
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>>73636689
LOL
>LOST MY SHIT
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>>73650864
He has master plans to secure power for himself by exploiting the people around him, he's not using Sansa because he wants some tail or some stupid short sighted goal like that, she is far too useful for such a simple prize.
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>>73637580
>mayor
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>>73649268
Yeah, in the books Victarion has decided to ignore Euron and marry Dany for himself.
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>>73651308
i like the charcters who know they arent the best in what they do the most.
they are so relatable. there is a chapter about a low ranking grandson from the twins who get murdered by the brotherhood and it was great.
theon before he was captured was the charcter i liked most in both the books and the show.
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>>73651562

>A Jew relates to the character the most who has a superiority complex and feels they are entitled to more than they actually deserve

You literally can't make this shit up.
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He's gonna become pretty based in the future
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>>73635302
Won't anyone outside of Castle Black think Jon Snow broke his vows and try to execute him?

>Wait no its cool guys, I totally died then came back to life so I'm no longer part of the Night's Watch
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>>73652930
>implying there're people who actually give a shit about that (while winter is coming)
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>>73653175

No one would care if people just started leaving the Night's Watch because winter is coming?
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>>73653175
>while winter is coming

I'm not even sure about that anymore. Sounds like a nightwatch lie to get some money and let in some refugees.
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>>73652930
No one will really care (besides Ramsay and his allies) about the Nights Watch vows what with the utter shit show that is Westeros right meow.
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>>73652328
he never feels like he belongs, and pressured into doing stupid things.
also he is one of the only charcters who had a choice to make as i see it.
brian or the mountain for example are machine like.
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I happen to have inside info:

They will seal off the wall.
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>>73653396
who actually will?
>The warden of the north?
>The other three houses left in the north?
>Southron lords?

nigger, please
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>>73653978
I thought they already did
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>>73654008
>>73653626
No, the warden of the north would care because it's currently Roose Bolton (if we're talking books) and Jon being a Stark bastard who is no longer in the Nights Watch presents a very real threat to his position, especially because book Stannis is still alive to legitimize him.
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In the final season John Snow and the Blond bitch will get married and sit upon the iron throne, ushering in a new age of openness and diversity with the land's new dothraki and wildling occupants
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>>73654133
nigger, that's whom Jon Snow is going to attack (and likely kill and re-take Niggerfell, all prodded by the pink letter written by Mance Raider, etc..)

how do you not fucking get it??!?!
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>>73654355
Wait maybe I misread what you were saying, are you not arguing that no one would care? Because all the reasons you listed would be a very big one for Roose to care.
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>>73639756
FOR YOU
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>>73654474
Yes, I'm saying that no one will care (enough to kill Jon).

I leave you to it /pol/, and will say no more.
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>>73640405
FUCK
U
C
K
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>>73635302
>Not knowing that wildlings are first men, like northerners
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>>73654684
Jons not going to kill Roose and retake Winterfell because by the time he gets resurrected and makes his way home, Stannis the Mannis will have already sieged the castle with the help of the Manderly's and other northern houses who are secretly against the Boltons and be sitting in the main hall sipping on wine dancing with Davos.
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>>73654780
Africans are the first men.
Let's flood our countries with them.
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>>73654233

>tfw this could actually happen
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>>73654827
Every episode I pray they reveal that Stannis isn't actually dead

Worst case of character assassination I've ever witnessed in a show, and they did it by completely disregarding what book Stannis is like.
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>>73654827
>by the time he gets resurrected
Spoiler:

He already got resurrected and left Castle Black after he hanged the dudes that killed him.

Since you're only in The Watch 'for life' I suppose he's good to go on that one.

Also Renley (Roose's dead dumbshit) has the youngest Stark kid and his wildling whore and he's probably going to get all crazy and try to Reek his ass but then the mother fuckin' back from the dead Jon Snow will wreck his ass or something, who knows.

But that's what'll happen.
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Because every human body north of the wall is going to be turned into a white walker, and every human body you get south of the wall is one less white walker to deal with.

t. fuck olly
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>>73654827
Anyway why the fuck are you so busy in a GoT thread when it's clear you haven't even watched in a while?

Fuckin' catch up nigga.
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>>73655128
>>73655329
Talking the book faggots, the book Jon is still dead and Roose is still alive. I know what's going on in the show and I don't really care.
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>>73655183
found the kike
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>>73655128
>Also Renley (Roose's dead dumbshit) has the youngest Stark kid and his wildling whore and he's probably going to get all crazy and try to Reek his ass but then the mother fuckin' back from the dead Jon Snow will wreck his ass or something, who knows.

Ramsey will attack Castle Black, killing all of the Night Watch.
Ramsey will attack the wilding army and kill them all.
Ramsey will kill Jon's half brother in front of him.
Samsa will kill Ramsey.
This season is Ramsey fucking things up.
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>>73636689
nice one island man
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>>73635302
Same thing I said.
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I fucking hate Daenarys.
>free army
>wmd equivalent Dragons
>spends all her time in shit tier sandniggerland
>postergirl for SJWs and stronk femdom
>westaros is myne
Chapters were boring as fuck. Hope she stays a dothrak pleb
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>>73655639
ramsey is like cersei, he is a talented plotter, but cant rule for shit.
he cant lead an army like his father, nor uniting the north under his banner.
also, shouldnt the north be underpopulated with all those young wariors dying in the red wedding?
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>>73656791
this.
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>>73640196
god the show really is cucked
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>>73656791
I also love how she's been on the other side of the world literally doing nothing for years.

And Aegon declares himself as king, gets an army and has already landed in Westeros all in a matter of like 2 weeks.

The kicker is that he also has a better claim then hers.
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>>73657276
Only if he's legitimate and not a blackfyre. Would be sad if he wasn't a true Targaryen.
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>>73645889
i haven't got to that part in the books yet, but it isn't that bad. the situation is essentially as you put it. they were pretty peaceful in the show, though, unlike the books.
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>>73655520
>Talking the book faggots
Nobody gives a shit about the book any more, get with it.

When people talk about GoT they are talking about the TV universe these days. There's a Reddit sub you can go back to that's only for book faggots like yourself.
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>>73655639
This episode previewed how tenuous Bolton's hold on The North really is, he's fucked within 3 episodes.
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>>73656791
i also hate the fact so little was done trying to take her dragons away from her. the people of qarth should have just murder her and her small gathering of beggers right than and there.
people should have gone insane with greed for the dragons...
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>>73635575
this. its like if north korea had a zombie apocalypse and the north koreans wanted to go to south
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>>73657611
Seems pretty clear from a good portion of the responses I'm getting that a few other people here are talking books as well.
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