Why are Christians such cucks ?
How catholics deal with muslims*
>>73628354
Because they worship the a desert wizard and his bastard child.
>>73628354
>Christian, Muslim, Jew, and athiest walk into a bar
>Muslim blows up bar with a bomb
>Christian is killed by the bomb
>atheist is also killed by the bomb but blames the Christian and Muslim equally
>Jew supplied the Muslim with the bomb and steals the money from the cash register
>>73628531
The soviets were atheist
>>73628714
the fuck did you mean by that
>Atheists
>Humans with morality
>>73628776
The image of the helicopter killing muslims represents a soviet helicopter
>>73628354
>The most secular parts of the west are importing refugees like madmen
>The more Catholic countries like Italy, Poland, Hungary are extremely against it
>Italians are forced to by cuck secular Germany and France
>>73628531
Based Serbia
fpbp
>>73628911
Except we don't import as much refugees as Italy
>>73628714
>being this retarded
any catholic in their right mind would put a bullet in that imposter's head for the sake of their own dignity. hes just a cultural marxist wearing a catholic costume
>>73628911
>France
do you realy believe someone listen to what hollande has to say ?
Why do atheists have such thin skin?
>>73629163
That's because they're already French citizens, just ones 'returning home' from African shitholes.
>>73628540
That fucking jew Pope
>>73628354
meanwhile in reality
>>73631309
>implying I'm atheist.
>>73631309
>>73628354
Slow to want to go to war, pretty based when they do to defend themselves.
Isn't that the kind of thing you would WANT?
>>73631808
>>73631944
Remember this.. even when muslims had conquered much of christian lands before the christians even decided to react.. they did push them all out.
When christians finally decide to fight back.. well.. the wicked flee when none pursueth but the righteous are bold as lions come to mind..
Christians do not seek conflict in general.. and tries to avoid it but push too far, they will defend themselves verociously and without mercy.
Again.. that's what you would want in a civilized society.
Muslims seek fight always first.. mock the christians for not fighting back.. christians fight back.. muslims cry in despair.. "MUH CRUSADES YOU CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL"..
>>73631309
>>73632206
>Christians pushed out Muslims
no, Christians invaded Palestine to help defend pilgrims, which was a major industry. If Christians were really saying 'oh dear, it looks like the Muslims have conquered our lands, time to reclaim them' then you'd have Istanbul.
Keep crying mushrik, you didn't fight Islam 1000 years ago you won't fight it now.
>>73632381
>muh revisionistic crusades
>christians never did fight islam
Ok achmed. Time to stop crying about the crusades then, never want to hear anything about it again from you.
>>73632324
That meme doesn't make any sense though.
You can prove that apples grow on trees.
>>73632504
have you ever actually witnessed an apple growing on a tree?
or have you just heard about it from textbooks, the media and other people
>>73632444
No one cries about the crusades besides liberals and mushriks like you that think you actually defeated Islam, while we Muslims remember and praise Salahudin every single day.
>>73633043
Really? muslims cry about the crusades all the time.
The byzantine emperor asked the pope for help btw. And the pope at the time and the byzantine emperor did NOT get along.. This is why christians have not reclaimed constantinople, unlike you muslims, when you invade a place, christians don't feel that it all of a sudden belongs to them for eternally simply because they have invaded it in the past.
But muslims definately were kicked out of spain for invading and illegally occuping it for hundreds of years as they failed to invade france, and was kicked out during the inquisition.
>>73633043
And please cry me a river about the illegal occupation of palestine aswell when muslims invaded and occupied spain for several hundreds of years..
Muslims were the ones who invaded the ancient hebrew lands of israel and buillt the dome of the rock there, and now act like it always belonged to you, same as you do with constantinople and haga sophia..
Your argument and reasoning is simply irrational and wrong.
>>73628714
He's talking about the top image you fucking cuck.
>>73628354
It's a woman's religion. It emphasizes monagamy, pacifism, and family life over strength and ambition. It lacks the resolve to do what is necessary, and that weakness is what is dooming the West.
>>73633043
And you will be kicked out of europe, i will guarantee you that, it might be bloody or maybe it won't even be that, but islam will never rule europe.
Right now the honeymoon period is about to be over and people are getting rather annoyed with the muslims continual attempts to turn europe islamic.. when it finally hits critical mass.. you will see something..
What you don't get is right now you think you are meeting resistance.. there's like 0.0005% resistance.. when you get 10% it will be very uncomfortable for you 25% you'd wish you had never been there, over that.. (and it will happen fast when it goes from nothing to 10 to 25 etc.) you'll seek greener pastures back in your homelands.. Muslims are full of hubris and they always underestimate.
>>73633282
You've never talked to Muslims then because we don't bitch about the past like /pol/ does 24/7.
Wow, citing a war that took you 800 years as a victory? What a loser.
>>73633506
Lol, look at you, crying about Istanbul just like I said you do. Don't you have something better to do like make sure your girlfriend doesn't leave you for an Arab Hans? She might as well seeing as you're a pussy.
>>73628354
aren't the ruskies orthodox Christian?
>>73633851
Yes
what movie is the bottom picture from senpai? It doesn't look like 9th company.
>>73633825
You can't even see that you're the savage ursurper, it's quite incredible. The very reason why 10.000 in the clouds are the ones that will put people like you down.. Settle the dispute.
>you're crying about istanbul like i said you would
I'm not crying about (istanbul) Constantinople.. i was just pointing out the bullshit you were saying about it and explaining to you why it wasn't reclaimed.
>>73632324
kek
>>73633823
What you don't realize Hans is that we're already getting ready for the prophesied war with Rome. You're so stupid you actually think we don't know what's going on, you actually have to think if this is the invasion whereas we Muslims know this isn't the invasion, we're not even close to victory over Europe yet.
But that's ok Hans, because I'm so sure fighting a bunch of fag lovers is going to be so difficult. It's obvious who's being played by Satan and who isn't.
>>73633825
>Wow, citing a war that took you 800 years as a victory? What a loser.
We are slow to react because unlike you we are not ursurpers, but when we do the shit hits the fan.
Keep kindling the fire achmed.
>>73632613
I've actually seen it. Checkmate, faggot.
>>73634227
The war lasted 800 years, not how long it took you to declare war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista
Don't they teach history in schools Hans or only how to help you become a faggot?
>>73634151
Yes.. you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopLhXVRxSA
Enjoy praying towards satans symbolic prison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJSBvwCM6mk
A few related videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySdPdLRxtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVPFCR4MfqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaW4EpLAk3k
Islam destroyed of legitimacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmtNqJ5wC2g
>>73634143
This webm is simultaneously confusing, hilarious, and horrifying.
>>73632504
apples don't exist because everything outside your own mind doesn't exist you can't prove me wrong anything you consider evidence doesn't exist
>>73634471
It's not the one who laughs first, it's the one who has the last laugh.. You think you've already won.. the truth is not on your side.
>>73632324
This is true. Agnostics are the undecided voters of the world, which is the most retarded block of voters.
>>73632324
>>73628531
This
>>73631309
0/10 bait
>>73634471
>what you don't realize
I'm well aware of the dabiq prophecy and of syria/damascus and these things..
I'm well versed in islamic texts, you're barking up the wrong tree here.
But are you aware that the bible warned about this false gospel you follow and said it comes from arabia and involves damascus, before mohammad was even born..
"7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
Muhammad did this with help of the "angel" "jibriel" which was really satan.
Where does he go immediately after saying this.. that there was warning of this false gospel being preached, he goes to warn in the place where it is to be preached..
"15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,
16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus."
Checkmate.
>>73634680
>>73631621
>>73634798
No refuting it I know
>>73634478
>Listening to David Wood and Sam Shamoun
Wow, a fat neckbeard who got rejected by a Muslim girl as a teen and David Wood the self proclaimed understander of Satanists because of a phase he went through as a kid and admits to dressing up as women for fun.
You truly are lost Hans, try reading a book some time.
>>73634647
We've been promised victory from Allah, so yes, we win faggot.
>>73634915
I'm talking about conquest of Rome not Dabiq, but I don't expect an idiot who listens to crossdressers and Arab rejects to know about Islam.
Oh, try not to spend too much time crying about Istanbul Hans, I've got to pray now. Do try not to suck too many dicks, I know it's hard for your Europeans to not be utter faggots.
>>73632324
>I can feel he exists
That is not theism. It's not about "feeling" for something.
>>73634518
i know the feeling.
The first time i saw it, i was scared.
Then i had a boner...
>>73628354
Why are Muslims such pedophiles?
>>73634915
(cont) so who do you think is going to ultimately win oh muslim. you and your evil "god" or the ones that knew his plan before he made his move, and knew his plan before you even did.
I'll give you a hint.. NOT YOU!
>>73631621
I haven't seen that picture in a long time. A fellow clan member from Empire Earth had that as his avatar.
Where are you, The Drunken Dead, where are you?
>>73630924
>imposter
Read the bible.
>>73628354
A very wise man once said if you kill your enemy then they win.
>>73634957
How is your picture any worse than being a christcuck?
>>73635043
Those who live by the sword will die by the sword.
What do you think god meant by that oh muslim..
You're the one who lives by the sword (jihad and sharia law) and you represent the false religion that god himself is going to come to destroy.. and wipe out permanently.. And your revived caliphate is the beast that suffered a mortal headwound that is then revived and exists only briefly trying to conquer the world.. and then is DESTROYED AND NEVER SEEN AGAIN FOREVER.
maybe on west christians=cucks
Here Christians are racists, fascists desu complete opposite
>>73635513
Did you just dare criticizing the Pope ? You know it's forbidden by cucktholicism, right ? Go back licking Muhammed's feet
>>73628789
The only true morality where you look to the betterment of your society and not the arbitrary wishes of your imaginary space wizard friend.
>>73635388
(cont) you went around like a roaring lion seeking whom you might devour.. for 1400 years during your caliphates, the ottomans were dismantled.. after the armenian genocide in an effort to get into allah's graces, if he could help them keep their empire.. but allah can't help you..
Then it comes back.. to be completely destroyed by a cloud army 10.000 strong. This is your fate, unless you repent, there is still time to stop the key from turning for you.. But will you take the opportunity, i have given you the key if you look at the links.. will you pick it up. That is the choice for you. Either way.. for muslims.. it is checkmate eventually.
When your mahdi arrives and you begin your assault, the timer starts till they arrive to destroy you.. and then usher in the kingdom after judging the remnant nations.. heed the warning.. or go into destruction.
>>73628354
*Catholics
http://youtu.be/8r-e2NDSTuE
>>73628714
The Soviet government, in theory, maybe. The vast majority of soldiers were and still are Orthodox Christian.
>>73636011
(cont) unlike you oh muslim, christians do not believe that they should decide who lives and who dies.. our god will do that for us.. This is why we are taught not to murder, whilst your "allah" tells you to murder everyone who do not follow your ways..
You are the one who is tricked by the devil.. Not me.
When they return on the day of visitation.. the door is shut and the judgement commences and the time for mercy and grace is over. You still have time now, make good use of that time and repent and leave islam.
>>73635984
Bettering a society requires imagination.
>>73636395
Atheism isn't in conflict with imagination. Rather than allow millennia-old texts tell you what to do based on the interests of a few old men, you should adapt to your present situation.
>Implying the majority of atheists aren't left-leaning anti-war faggots
>implying the majority of enlistees aren't Christians
lol try harder toad.
>>73628354
How french catholics deal with muslims :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_de_l%27arm%C3%A9e_secr%C3%A8te
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Martel_Group
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratonnades_de_1973
How french atheists deal with muslims :
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3179/france-mega-mosques
Now our country is atheist and we are cucked :)
>>73636535
Yes, it's Republican Christians who support the importing of millions of third worlders and who tend to lead degeneracy. lol
Atheists and muslims will be gone very soon. They will understand this pic when it becomes too late.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
>>73631309
Both are the same, except agnosticism adds "I don't know" at the end.
Really no biggie.
>>73636857
I've never seen a militant agnostic tbqhwybbq
>>73636722
That has nothing to do with their religion or lack thereof, but rather their whole ideology and the interests of a particular few seeking to destabilize Western regions.
Japanese are atheists and massively xenophobic.
>>73636775
freemasons are muslims agents.. the mahdi is the order out of chaos agent.
Freemason square and compass the square is the kaaba, the g is the kaaba stone (the mahdi) the 33rd degrees is allegiance to the mahdi.. order out of chaos (because he emerges to unify islam after a muslim civil war with 3 wouldbe caliphs hence order out of chaos) and the compass is the crescent spire over mecca.. they left their secret societies inside the western christian world since they were unable to defeat the christian west via conventional warfare.
Atheists and muslims will be gone eventually.. but for very different reasons than you think.
>>73636947
70% of atheists are at least left-leaning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqQdc0mX1_c
>>73636934
Agnostics are more like crossfitters.
They like to brag, they don't like to fight with other opinions.
>>73636535
It is, you are having issues with me imagining utopias and shit.
>>73637149
>"They like to discuss opinions, but stay away from bragging because we understand we dont know everything"
ftfy
>>73637376
This is my problem with atheists. The fact that they can't even fathom how they could POSSIBLY be wrong. They're so emotionally invested into their lack of belief.
>>73636775
Pretty much the mahdi hymn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4scF1ogXcB4 the false divine emperor..
And islam is the beast empire, as the obtuse little muslim has pointed out whilst mocking the christians, they took the byzantine empire and constantinople.. under mohammat II so indeed the beast empire is the revival of all the beast empires in the past including the roman empire.. but the romans moved their capital to constantinople before the fall of rome. So islam is the continuation of this all the way from ancient egypt.. and all the nations destroyed on the day of the lord are nations that are part of previous beast empires of the past.. and all of the muslim today and all of them middle eastern and north african.
Here's a few, iraq, syria, afghanistan, turkey, sudan, somalia, libya, saudi arabia, yemen, (teman to dedan the house of the cube, the edomites, god really hates that place) and many others, all mentioned directly in the bible which ones are destroyed, same shit different day, trying to rise again but this time god himself is going to finish them off.
The albert pike meme is very wrong.. You should realize this. It's very deceptive.
Jeg tror du har lidt mentale problemer hans mate.
>>73628354
Wow what a u-turn. First you say all wars are created by religions and atheist would never harm a fly. Now you're saying that atheists have a higher kill rate and are better because of it. This is why I stopped caring what atheists think or say. You have no position because you believe nothing and so the goal posts are always moving to where you need them. Sickening.
>>73637376
>"They like to discuss opinions, but stay away from bragging because despite seeing an overwhelming about of rational arguments against the concept of god, I still can't shake the fear of sky dad being upset with me"
ftfy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism
Friendly reminder that the Pope does not serve God.
>>73637621
Nej du, prov at undersog det lidt.. det virker vildt men det checker ud 100%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnmk-Qrk_Cw
go to 50-52 onward.
Burden against arabia, even christ comes to fight in arabia.. When is it discussed.. never.
>>73637128
Correlation, not causation.
>>73637301
Then we're in disagreement.
If anything, the relative morality of a religion is most dangerous. You easily argument against Islam by these means, but Christianity possesses the same faults: no objective, empirical or tangible compass as to be able to define said morality.
Perhaps not everyone is mentally ready to follow a secular consensus as to what improves society, and this is why you might argue that religion is needed to shackle peoples minds into the right path. Does not make these beliefs true, though. People only act "correctly" because they believe a higher power told them so and consequences will ensue if they fail.
If a million ppl believe I'm the Queen of Sweden,that doesn't make me the Queen of Sweden.
>>73628354
Russians are orthodox Christians
>>73628354
Russians where always Christians, even under the anglo-jewish soviet rule.
Catholicism is actually a Cybele cult, disguised as Christianity. Due to disguise, most of their ordinary worshipers are genuine Christians, but the pope and the top officials are cybelists - pagans.
>>73637681
You are a gentleman and a scholar. I admire your superior intellect.
*tip*
>>73628714
Old Quebec is right
Still a faggot though
>>73637949
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
do you make that same argument for blacks and crimes friendo?
>>73637681
overwhelming evidence =/= conclusionary evidence.
also
>appealing to emotion
no. try again.
>>73638123
>Anglos somehow blamed for the USSR
TIL der findes danske crazy kristne
seriost opsog hjælp, du har paranoid skizofreni eller lignende
>>73637621
Do you know that all muslims await an emperor to come to revive their caliphate make it stronger and more powerful than every before, and rule as a SINGULAR EMPEROR OVER ALL MUSLIMS/THE ENTIRE UMMAH.. and rule with peace for a period of 7-8 years and make peace treaty with christians and jews.
If not this is your wakeup call.
>>73637128
This is not an argument.
>>73636947
Japanese are very into Shinto, where their Emperor is the god`s representative on Earth. Even if they do not worship that, they share the ideals and respect it greatly.
>>73631309
>agnosticism
>puts bullshit on an equal footing with truth
how is that rational exactly? agnosticism eventually leads to nihilism because how do you determine whether anything is true if you say " i don't know.".
>>73638514
It literally is
>>73638123
>dat pic
holy mother of God!
>>73638438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5B-LL1ObW4
I accept your apology in advance.
>>73638603
Hvorfor skulle jeg tage muslimsk nonsens seriost?
>>73638528
agnostics don't take into account probability. They think both are equally probably and that's just not true.
>>73638287
What argument?
You can biologically prove that blacks are more prone to violence than other races. Stop grasping at straws, that's the second time.
>>73638514
>Japanese are very into Shinto, where their Emperor is the god`s representative on Earth. Even if they do not worship that, they share the ideals and respect it greatly.
True enough. Yet, you said it, there is no deity, no "objective" moral compass.
>>73638833
probable*
>>73638438
Pic related. Small correction he will not rule the entire world because he declares war against the strongest of fortresses with the help of a foreign god which is also a god of war which his ancestors did not know (he's a convert to islam) and muslims admit this aswell about the mahdi, in his early life he is not a good muslim it's in their texts.. but something happens to him and allah rectifies him in one night and he changes completely and the muslims makes him via bay'ah (allegiance) he becomes emperor over all the ummah.
>>73638875
I linked you a video where Stefan Molyneux proves, and backs it up with stats, that 70% of atheists are left-leaning.
It might not be a cause for one or the other, but 70% is not a coincidence.
>>73638884
(cont) that's what currently 1.4-6 billion people.. pretty substantial singular emperor.. especially considering the current muslim birthrates, every one of them has an obligation to follow his decrees.
And meanwhile all these assholes are scrambling left and right trying to find out where is this empire going to come from that will accept a singular emperor.. hello.. wake up..
>>73638802
Det fint du, bare lad være med at sige det er noget jeg finder på så.
>>73639040
You may want to differentiate between correlation and causation. Also I would be highly sceptical about Molyjews usage of statistics, which he uses and how, he's got critized by someone who studied statistics as part of his degree.
>>73638418
> founding and funding the third international and "russian" socialist print works
> not saving the saint emperor family and thus breaking some important treaties
> first to acknowledge USSR to legally sign a deal to take 2000 tons of gold rubles in coins on locomotive deal
> never sending a single locomotive to soviets
> soviets don't ask nothing
The situation is more complex, but I wont bother to explain. The point is: anglo where allowed to create the situation, because the saint emperor was too lenient towards his enemies, who appeared to be also anti-human satanists later.
>>73632324
This is why im agnostic. Nobody but an angry atheist would make this. Ill make that claim.
>>73639040
> that 70% of atheists are left-leaning
Obviously, when the right has a strong basis on conservative, religious values.
Now what's left to be seen is if they're left-wing because of this exclusion or because of an innate bio-socio-psicological correlation between leftist ideologies and atheism. There may very well be.
Then again, I think "left" and "right" are simplified stances for the rabble. I agree and disagree in different measures with both ideologies. No need to imprison yourself to just one: that's hive mentality.
>>73631309
Just because something cannot be proven to be false doesn't mean it's a reasonable consideration.
You can make all kinds of completely retarded claims that are impossible to prove to be false.
>>73639183
Du vælger selv at tage ligegyldigt nonsens seriost. Det er dig selv, der tager den beslutning. Så jo, det er noget du finder på.
>>73637949
Guess what, the common thing with the fundamentalists you mentioned and atheists is that they are incapable of getting the message of it and start imagining things outside of the creator's intend.
>>73638875
> there is no deity, no "objective" moral compass
There is. First - it`s an ethnic religion of respecting the forefathers.
>>73639377
I never said one is a cause for the other/vice-versa. I said more than 2/3 of a ""group"" identifying with a political ideology is not a coincidence.
>>73628354
Good god, it is yet ANOTHER one of these threads.
>>73638584
This is how the based Juden deals with Muslims
>>73639707
Objective?
What's the consequence of not following these rules? Besides dishonor?
They're more of cultural guidelines as to how their society works.
>>73636232
The soldiers didn't decide to go to war.
>>73628600
Underrated post
>>73629163
You had refugees since forever, you don't count.
Just look at your football national teams 2000-20XX
>>73639831
Honor is a major topic in Japan.
Even if it`s not, how not having punishments is not moral?
> religion have major influence on society
Yes. This is why mudslimes literally turn everything into desert and christians make the real progress in everything.
>>73634957
>implying I don't worship the Slavic God Perun
>implying I'm really a pagan
That image if funny as fuck though
>>73628354
There are no atheists in foxholes.
>>73640213
>Yes. This is why mudslimes literally turn everything into desert and christians make the real progress in everything.
Well, yes, evidence points towards that. But again, take the Christian populace, remove the belief in a god but keep the work ethic, the social structure and the results may very well be the same if your values stay the same, regardless of where they come from.
>>73639791
>Juden
>Based
Pick one very carefully Anon
>>73628354
Implying the atheists weren't the ones bitching about the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
>>73637376
More like
>pretending not to believe, but still fear the old-as-world and overused concept of a god
I mean, if you're agnostic, then that's cool.
But c'mon, skydaddy is fiction. There's no "if". He's fantasy written by man.
>>73635265
the guy who posted varg and retardo-bot kid here, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
>>73640656
Then prove it, you have evidence that nobody else has apparently.
>>73640428
Faith or dislike towards it inspire some people. That's how we got a lot of our culture, which is the source of all our great minds.
Faith is useful.
>>73636232
Not exactly true. After the USSR fell there was a ton of baptisms as people returned to faith, and a good number of the Soviet soldiers fighting in Afghanistan were from Muslim areas in the Soviet Union.
>>73640656
Also, it blows my mind that people just think agnostics just don't want to denounce something because of fear. If you're going to claim that, give me a reason to believe i am fearful of something i have no proof of existing.
Its silly, and if you think people take you seriously after you try and push this narrative onto them, you're being dishonest.
Our pope is a total asshat. Sorry but I'm Catholic and I don't believe a word that comes out of this heretics mouth, the church put this sack of shit in bc it is broke af and some big donors promised them a heathy sum if they put the multi-cultural pope in who accepts everyone. Fuck that. Jesus told his followers to take up swords in his name in the New Testament.
>>73639652
Ok let me redpill you some more.. You know the 33rd degree is it 3+3 = 6.. nah..
Ok rosh hashana and ramadaan, they are both based on the lunar calendar, whereas we are based on solar calendar with 356 days.. in a lunar calendar it only has 354
Now jews they make corrections so their festivals falls on different places during the year since the sun calendar is the most accurate because it follows the seasons, anyways whereas muslims are strict 354 days in a year, which is why ramadan falls in different dates every year.
Since one makes corrections and one does not, rosh hashana and ramadan meet once every 33 years.. The unity between the synagogue of satan and islam.
The mahdi is to be about 40 years or so of age or looking like 40 years of age when he appears.. jesus died approximately in his 30's 33-40 = 7.
Hence 33rd degrees. allegiance to the mahdi which you know as luficer..
Lucifer is a mistranslation of latin vulgate..
Isaiah 14 ezekiel 28.. places lucifer as the serpent in the garden of eden and symbolized as the king of tyre. (lebanon)
In initiation rituals in freemasonry they can't tell the secret of masonry because they promised the king of tyre not to reveal it.. (satan).
In higher degrees of masonry the qur'an also becomes involved.
Now i think i've said quite enough, but look into these things.
>>73640962
>you need evidence to disprove the existence of a skydaddy nobody could prove to exist for the last 2000+ years
Mhmmm...
I mean, you can still believe it if that comforts you.
Because they think way long term and will get all the riches in the end
>>73640992
>Faith is useful.
Totally agree. But it's just a means to control en masse when not all your population has the same level of education.
The results are undeniable, true, but it seems that religious ideology is an obsolete concept for advanced society where inspiration comes from reasoning and consensus.
>>73641259
(cont) Isaiah 14 ezekiel 28 the rendering lucifer son of the morning, in ancient hebrew it reads heylal bin sahar/saharon oh you star/brightness of the crescent, this is what it means.. Hilal in arabic also means not only crescent but crescent moon.. these are the symbols associated with worshipping the fallen one/the serpent.
Let me know which symbols islam uses, same as horus and isis (crescent and star) same as asteroth (crescent) and baal (star) same as molech (crescent) and star (remphan) same as diana (crescent) and apollyon (star) same as artemis (crescent) and image fell from zeus (star)
Same as islam allah (crescent) muhammad/mahdi (star).
Same as kaaba stone (star meteorite fell from heaven) and crescent spire overlooking it.
>>73641334
Because science hasn't been a viable cause to disprove it until recently, but still needs more advancement to come to that conclusion. We aren't there yet, and its dishonest to say you know when you don't.
>>73641168
People fear that there are monsters in the dark when they know there are none.
I'm not your mother to know what you fear or anything, so you can say what you want on 4chan.
So, I'm just going to assume that you give the same chance to Slavic gods like Świętowit.
>>73641681
>some Jews in the desert that could barely put two sticks together wrote Sumerian fanfiction
>we need 2000+ years of science to disprove it being true
honestly kekd
>>73641513
(cont) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJSBvwCM6mk dancing around/observing the symbolic prison of "allah". Some gateway of sorts perhaps?
Inside the kaaba (cube) which is empty otherwise, it has a doorway in gold that is called baabut taubah (meaning door of repentance) the mahdi will go into the kaaba at one point.. it's has a little section behind the door, it's a well kept secret what is behind it, perhaps a stairwell down to an underground structure, nobody really has talked about it, and it is very guarded of a secret what is there.
A 4d hypercube like in the movie cube 2 hypercube.. is a hypothetical construct which could possibly have infinite spatial dimensions. Rooms going on forever. A bottomless pit.
>>73628354
Because you cannot win an ideological war with physical bullets or weapons.
Just Drench shit in pig blood and all that crap like the Israelies do
this pope a is a most shit of all popes.
>>73642115
MARADONA >>>> pelé
>>73628354
catholics are not christians they are mudslim and jewish cock suckers
>>73641974
Ok last one..
http://www.esoteric-school.org/enciklopedia/sephiroth/kabbalistic_tree_of_life.jpg
Kaballah is part of talmudic judaism. Which denies christ as messiah (synagogue of satan)
Look at the picture... now look at it again.. it's 2 x 3d cubes on top of eachother, you merge them you get a hypercube..
Let's read the kaballah (kaaba allah) as a pictogram instead of the traditional understood sense that they peddle to you.
From the high heavens "allah" was cast into a "cube" wherefrom he will emerge (downward triangle) from yesod (a crescent) to try to establish his "kingdom" (malkuth) as a cross (false messiah pretending to be jesus). Basically the antichrist right there. But to them he's the good guy and god is evil, so they don't mind.
>>73641727
So instead, you try and understand why I'm agnostic through a post on 4chan? Do you realize how insanely stupid that is? Honestly, not even through a post, because you dont approve of agnosticism. This is the problem with both sides, being unable to just accept that other people see the world differently. At least have an honest debate about it, instead of just adding this fear nonsense.
>>73641965
Not me but that was brettygud
>>73642298
(kether) = crown = high heavens.
Ok done.
actually atheists are those who talk about "tolarance and shit" and how bigoted and "non-progressive" you are ..
>>73641499
You're onto right path but you'll realize the benefit of religion in time. Read Dostoyevsky.
>>73642068
Yes you fucking can. Just kill them at a greater pace than the religion spreads.
Confine them and you Confine the spread.
Bit late now, though.
>>73642326
I'm not trying to understand anything. I don't even want to know you beyond your ID.
I'm just here with my mindset that I'm not going to change, and neither do I want anyone else to change theirs.
Also
>debating
Literally the hobby of bored wealthy people. I don't have the time for that, I'm not 15 anymore.
>>73642572
1. There is no benefit from religion you cant attain without it.
2. Believing in God just for the benefits is dishonest, and you're not attaining anything honestly through what its teaching altogether.
>>73633043
>we Muslims
You have to go
>>73641100
The Russians in Syria are now pretty well Orthodox. Where is your Dawkins God now faggot frog leg muncher?
>>73633043
Well, let's praise 1683, then!
>>73642786
I'm talking about groups, not individiuals. Religion is useful. And no, you can't do without it. That which replaces it becomes a religion practically.
Notice USSR for example. Their ideology virtually became a religion, with Lenin and Marx as prophets.
>>73641965
Umm the Jews were never a desert people. They seem pretty clever though, Israel even had a levantine empire (under David, Solomon and Jeroboam II, and to an extent Omri and Ahab), the Jews withstood Assyrian attack, uniquely, and survived, unlike most of their contemporaries. And they are the most powerful today of all Middle Eastern peoples although having been attacked and dispersed for millenia. Why do they even exist, whereas the Elamites, Lydians, Nabataeans, Moabites etc do not?
Not Jewish at all btw
>>73642619
SWEDEN PLZ
Don't you know if you kill terrorists, they win
>>73637376
>stay away from bragging
Every time anything related to atheism is brought up, morons come out and post retarded shit like
>LEL LOOK AT ME IM SO SPECIAL FOR TAKING A DEFAULT POSITION OF I DONT KNOW. IM SO SMART FOR NOT DECIDING.
It's pretty pathetic.
t. Agnostic-atheist
>aligning on religious rather than national principals
>>73642786
So you know for a fact that all religious belief systems are false? Maybe we should pray to you instead oh grand poohbah
>>73643169
Are you saying that you cant do without religion, and if you removed it, it would become a religion "practically"? Im not understanding that.
>>73633282
That is because Constantinople was a Greek possession, and the west couldn't give a flying copulation about Eastern Christendom
>>73643400
Who cares?
I guess you all need sleep. I know I do.
See ya.
>>73643478
Again, adding imaginary things to prove your point is silly. Exactly why im agnostic.
>It's pretty pathetic.
Nobody cares on what you feel. But if you think it helps your claim, call me what you'd like.
>>73643169
> Religion is useful. And no, you can't do without it.
Not at humanity's current state where basic education is so lacking.
But in the ideal world we should strive for, it's useless.
>>73628354
"Modern Catholic" not Christians.
>>73633813
Not really, as these things create a stable society. Seems like you hanker after Islam and you should be prepping the bull right now
It is atheism, with its concomitant sjwdom, that has enervated the strength of western masculinity. Also science, with its frankenfoods and its pumping of phytoestrogens into the water supply etc. But particularly has atheist amoralism sapped at the core of western manly strength, deriding healthy ethics and promoting the idea that gender identifying attack helicopters are just as valid as normal people
>>73643545
religion is a belief system and humans operate on belief systems.
Our actions are dictated by our beliefs, so I agree with anon when he says leaving religion will only make a vaccuum for another to fill in. Ideologies are belief systems as well.
Look at Nazi germany or USSR, they left Christianity only to pick up the religion of the State or Workers Party
>>73633825
The Byzantine Greeks were under attack for 800 years, yes from savage relentless hordes. At the same time they were attacked from the north and from every side. Had the crusaders not pillaged the state, likely it would still exist.
>>73629163
Aren't more than 30% of babies in France niggers?
>>73636947
Japanese are not atheists as such. They are probably just not particularly religious. But they all are members of one religion or another (usually Shinto without them realizing it)
>>73637657
Yeah they writhe around like snakes, intellectually speaking
>>73643519
Who said that? I know i didn't. I stated that you can attain any positive religious benefits through non-religious means, and just believing in religion because of what it can offer you is dishonest. Theists will agree with this comment.
>>73643838
>"lets allow bad ideas to prosper, in fear of what could happen"
Not a very good argument.
>>73644342
If a religion promises you an eternal reward which you cannot acquire otherwise than following the tenets of said religion, if it is true, then there are positive benefits acquired through religious means.
QED
>>73628789
>morality
Take a look at Europe friend. How far has morality gotten them?
>>73643400
They were wiped off the face of the planet. Jews today are almost exclusively descendants of converted Turks, Ashkenazis.
They were humiliated by the Romans.
>>73643838
Nazi Germany was openly Catholic. Religion just wasn't a central aspect of life.
>>73643741
>adding imaginary things
You were replying to a chain of post where some smug faggot put a retarded reddit-tier infograph exalting the intelligence of agnostics in comparison to atheists.
And then you brag about never bragging, and how silly atheists are.
Seriously, you guys are huge faggots. Saying I don't know is not groundbreaking or difficult. Stop pretending it takes any kind of thought when it is the default position.
Most of the religious and nonreligious people admit they don't know. Making a position out of it is silly.
>>73635295
>underrated
>>73635318
Jesus or Trudeau? I don't know anymore
>>73644889
>nazi germany was openly catholic
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hitler-muslim-brotherhood.html
Cool story bro.
>>73644611
Ill attempt to make an analogy here
>"If I want to dig in my backyard for diamonds for my entire life, in hopes of maybe finding that diamond, I would benefit from this diamond."
So that guy digs his whole life and has a high percentage chance of ending up with nothing. Betting on faith over the knowledge we have now is betting on an incredibly small percentage. The cost of doing that is a lot more than the effort put into it.
>>73644804
Historically false, although that meme is popular with conspiracytards.
Jews are a mixed race though, like any other. Jews of today look like semites, not Turkish at all. They don't for example look anything like Hazaras, who (having the same name) are obviously kin to the Khazars. And many Jews are of non-Ahskenazi origins. Having known several Turks and Jews, I know they behave and think very differently.
>>73644889
Catholicism is a cult not a religion. Both world wars and 1000 years of feudal wars previous employed the cult of the ages one way or another, including the Spanish American war, American civil war, even the war of 1812, Napoleonic wars, along with the obvious Papal wars like 30 years war...etc.
>>73635388
>sword
What century are we in?
More like nuke..
And gas for those in our countries
>>73644889
Hitler cucked out to the muslims big time. And they loved him for it. They still do to this day, the destruction of europe they surely didn't mind.
In all fairness i am unsure that hitler knew what islam truly represented, he just hated the jews so much that he did the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" bit, not knowing what a hardon islam has for destroying christianity.
>>73636395
RARE
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>>73645107
But you don't have to sacrifice everything to be religious.
>>73645187
It's a metaphor but also a very relevant literal.
Islam is the only ones that execute by the sword to this day because sharia law tells them so, and lives by the sword against the kafir in eternal jihad if they refuse the shahada (literally the flag of saudi arabia right now)..
>>73645165
>These Turkish converts that went on to mix all across Eurasia don't look like Turks anymore!
You're an idiot. Not even the kikes can form a historic connection between the Ashkenazi and the original kikes.
>>73628714
>The soviets were mammals
>>73628354
>Francis
>not a heresiarch
>>73634518
>he doesn't know who based MelonPan is
>>73645242
Nah, he was a sperg.
Today he would be a suicide bomber.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Quotations_on_Islam_from_Notable_Non-Muslims#Adolf_Hitler
>>73645381
(cont) shahada is the confession of faith in islam.. allah is the only god and muhammad is his messenger/apostle. It's the stuff scribbled in arabic.
Also muslim mujahids wear two things.. a band on their forehead (bismillah no god but allah) and or on their wrists.. same thing. It's the islamic battledress..the mark of the beast is precisely this.. be a muslim or have allegiance to the caliph or you can't buy or sell within his empire.
The number of his name, that's allegiance to the caliph.. how does that work.. watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hh0Zxn5Xg go to 10m28s 666 at the corner of the kaaba on an ancient babylonian cube. Exactly where the black stone now sits that symbolizes the mahdi that is the future caliph of islam.
"let he who has wisdom calculate the number of the beast, because it is the number of a man, and his number is 666"
Let that sink in.
>>73645014
see >>73632324 and understand this is a poor representation of agnosticism.
You're the only one attacking here, and getting incredibly upset over a discussion. 4chan is not the place for you, i've honestly never seen someone so upset over nothing. I'm sorry I'm not an atheist, but unfortunately other people have opinions other than yours. I have no reason to brag, or be upset, or ad hom in what could have been a decent discussion. Maybe re-read your comments and see what you brought to the table, you might pick something up very valuable here.
>>73643478
>Agnostic-atheist
>>73646037
>>73628789
I made it to 30 without killing or raping. I didn't need the threat of eternal hellfire to do it either.
Got to question the morality of people that NEED eternal threats and rewards just to be civil.
>Inb4 prison
Only dumb crooks get caught so it doesn't much affect my decision to not commit crimes.
>>73645458
But they all look and behave like Jews.
>>73645497
Weren't they insects? Oh sorry that was the Chinese
>>73645709
(cont) danebro redpilling you hard tonight, if somehow something bad happens to me you better fucking remember these things.. Cause it took me quite a long time to figure out.. don't waste it.
>>73646202
No its more than that. Societies that are religious tend to feel more guilt and feel more aversion to committing crimes. This is why society as a whole is more criminal. It would be pointless to use an individual by individual comparison.
And guilt works best if not induced by threats. Yes punishment/destruction/alienation whatever can help an individual make ethical choices, but constant threats can have the opposite effect. The most ethically positive is the notion of developing a relationship with God, with mutual obligations in the end.
How do KEKians deal with mudslimes?
Praise KEK
>>73646174
>>73646037
>I don't believe in God, and I don't know if he exists.
Are you fucking stupid or is this that hard to comprehend? Nice 9gag/facebook pictures.
>>73628354
>Why are Christians such cucks ?
It's the basis of their religion.
>>73642068
>Because you cannot win an ideological war with physical bullets or weapons.
That's the most common way ideological wars are won.
There's a reason Islam has over a billion followers, and it's not just because they told people about it peacefully.
Now that Christianity has gotten peaceful it has shrunk in size.
>>73643479
Welcome to how WWIII starts. Next we someone dumb enough to fire an RPG into Mecca.
>>73628600
this guy gets it
>>73647583
That and this is the most important reason why islam is growing so strong.. it's very hard to leave.. Whilst before the west had internalized christianity, now these beliefs that have constructed a meaningful and empathic and moral and kind and benevolent civilization are being eroded at the core.. but guess what.. islam is still islam, so they rush in to fill the void.. Not with good arguments but with very HEAVY arguments.. like these:
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/apostasy.aspx
Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
Surely he didn't mean it..
Bukhari (84:57) - [In the words of] "Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
shit.. he said it again.. was this enough?
Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."
okay, there seems to be a pattern emerging, is he done?
Bukhari (84:64-65) - "Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'"
Is he done yet.. not exactly.. but you start to figure out that he really means it.
Imagine the deception of muslims for lying to you about this. But you are kuffar, so by that definition you are worse than animals, and definately not innocent.. because you have failed in your "duty" to worship allah.
This is why when they say "we do not condone the killing of innocent" know that under sharia kuffar are not innocent, so they're not talking about you.. they're talking about the ADHERENT MUSLIMS that were accidental collateral damage, you the kuffar, they could give less of a shit.
>>73643825
>science and atheism is hurting western masculinity
>>73648096
(cont) god of the bible says do not MURDER.. allah says.. MURDER THE UNBELIEVERS murder everyone who does not submit to allah..
I'll let you take a guess, who is god and who is satan in that picture.. it's 50/50.. or is it.. or can you start to see clearly who is the villain and who is not.. One wants to stop the other.. Surely allah is the one trying to stop the biblical god for being so anti murderous.. right?
"the murderer from the beginning" He was from the beginning because he existed before man.
>>73645268
Hes not either.
>>73628354
>knowing jack shit about the military
2/10 made me reply
>>73628600
>>73648732
Imagine then when a muslim migrate with their family into a western nation... and you dare to question their religion.. where from where they came, doing so you would be executed..
And you're like "why is he getting so upset".. and he's like how dare you dhimmi! (internalized through 1400 years of his ancestors doing this thing). You can talk but if you critique islam.. death..
This quote i read recently really hits it home. And remember this the next time your empathy that is good for people who deserve it gets the best of you
"Its a wonder no one taught me about Ottoman Turks conquering Eastern European lands, kidnapping their women, and selling them off to wealthy lords in the kingdom. I guess that explains a lot of the genetic diversity you see in Middle Eastern cities. What a disgrace. Arabs or Turks are not marginalized people: they are descendants of a powerful, oppressive empire that has fallen (recently)...and they are still pissed about it."
Video related to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObIdNWjCmBM Remember also that whites never complain about this history of them being brutally abused, they moved past it and forgave it.. These fucking bastards will never even admit what they did to our ancestors.. And expect sympathy.. and not only sympathy but expect to in their usual grandstanding from their empires that recently waned.. tell us what we can do and cannot do.. And we submit to them like idiots.. time to not do so anymore.
>>73631566
Say what you want about the guy, the way he totally doesn't give a single fuck about the naysayers and even the LGBT dogmatics is admirable in the least.
>>73649889
(cont) this is what christians do they admit their errors and apologize endlessly.. even for things they shouldn't even have to apologize for.. whilst with muslims, they make no concession whatsoever.. and expect us to abide with whatever desire they make.. If they wish that perhaps they should return to their homeland.. Enough is more than enough..
>>73650045
(cont) a madman so is because he cannot admit the mistakes of his past.. a madman so is because he finds no fault with them.. what is the point to forgive a madman, if he simply wishes to repeat the same mistakes.. There is no cause for forgiveness, because he does not care.. There is only a cause for defence against future aggression.
