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Marriage is the most stupid risk you can take with your money.
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Marriage is the most stupid risk you can take with your money. 50% chance you'll lose 50% of everything you own.
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>>73611130
This assumes you're going to divorce.

Don't marry a cumdumpster then OP.
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>>73611130
But adding a second income to your household is the smartest thing you can do.

The Jews know its a catch 22. Marriage leads to wealth accumulation, wealth accumulation leads to power and stability. Get a pre and post nup to mitigate the risk
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>>73611294
>cant comprehend odds
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>>73611130

just get married later in life / after kids, at least then she has less incentrive to leave you during the stressful young kid period and wont get half your shit, you'll just pay kid support
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In order to have a good relationship you need to have a girl at least 2-3 points under you.

So if you're a 6/10 its a 3-4/10
if you're a 7/10 you can aim for an average girl
if you're an 8/10 who can get one night stands and can date 7-8/10 girls easily you should aim for a 6 girl for long term

etc.

Girls are never happy unless they're in a hypergamous relationship, and even than if you have a small dick or poor etc. you might get cheated on.
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>>73611130
>Marriage is the most stupid risk you can take

Western feminized marriage is the most stupid risk you can take

FTFY

The problem is not with marriage, the problem is with the new laws that surround marriage and how men and women are treated differently by the courts.
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>>73611130

there is more stupid thing: kids

100% failure

there is a reason people do not want kids and they win their lives
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You're a fucking idiot if you actually believe that if someone else fails something 50% of the time that that means you will also fail at it 50% of the time.
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>>73611130

GTFO MGTOW fag
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>>73611130

Marriage in the muslim world carries little to no risk at all for men.
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>>73611130
jokes on her i don't have any money
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>>73611130
>letting divorce actually happen
til death do us part silly
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>>73611696
Yes and no. In his case, it's likely nearer 80%.
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>>73611678
Win by ending a billion year old bloodline
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>>73611678
The only reason to have kids is if you're rich and/or powerful and want a heir.

For an average wagecuck kids are just constant frustration with some happy moments, and in the end they're still gonna hate you for being a beta loser.
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>>73611294

About 50% of marriages end up in a divorce so it's a valid risk.

>>73611443

You don't need marriage for any of that.
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>>73611623
It's not gambling if you take your time, retard. If you go and marry a girl a year after knowing her you don't know what the fuck you're going to get.
Way back when she was only my girlfriend I lived with my wife for three years before I married her and my relationship is fine. I really don't know why it's so difficult for people.
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I'm convinced that a lot of the guys that get cheated on deserve it in that it was their own personality flaws which led to poor judgment in a life partner.
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>>73611696
You half to play the odds. Pre nups cut divorce rates in half. post and pre nups give you the chance to have an old fashion marriage
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>>73611678

>make kids
>give them to jewish overlords
>make profit

why not
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>>73611810

It doesn't matter if a different human being fails something 100% of the time.

It has no fucking bearing on you, at all. And you're fucking stupid if you believe that it does.

>retard trips on curb and falls down half of the time he tries

>WOW, I'M 50% LIKELY TO FALL DOWN EVERY TIME I TRY TO STEP UP A CURB
>CURBS ARE DANGEROUS HOLY SHIT
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no prenup no deal
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>>73611130
Betting assumes you have something to gain.

50% chance for what? a Fucking headache, kids, occasional sex (prostitution is better realistically), and what?
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>>73611841

this

>>73611825

who cares, life is a hell already here

> mfw during communism there were 3 kids per family
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>>73611868
>You don't need marriage for any of that.
Millennial home ownership, savings, and average household income says otherwise
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>>73612002
Prenups mean shit
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>>73611678

>Not having at least 2 kids.
Why would you not want to replace yourself ?
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ITT: success of jewish subversion

Yes, white man, material wealth is all that matters. Opt out of cultural institutions. Opt out of tradition. Opt out of procreation. Pursue the dollar.
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Just do what i did, find yourself a 8/10 chinese cutie that was formerly a virgin that wants to get married and agreed to not only a prenump but if we get divorced, all i have to do is pay her family a dowry.

there are other ways desu if u have the balls to hunt for them
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>>73611825
Let's keep procreating because that's how it's been for a billion years. Life has no inherent meaning or value.
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>>73611971
not all of us Breed like cock roaches, and some even value their non insectoid life.
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>>73612069
You dont need marriage to have a two income houshold. Though I'm not that familar with US law in Europe you can just cohabitate and the law treats you as partners after a certain time
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>>73612155
>if you have the balls to marry a chink
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>>73611981
Christ on a cracker, you're angry.

I was suggesting that given his expectations and attitude, his likelihood of failure was higher than the average.
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>>73612160
At least my kids wont have to deal with people like you. You're DNA will be gone....Thats a good thing
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>>73612145

because I am subhuman slavic slavshit
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>>73612163

but you should
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>>73611626
In Russia a fucker will pay for a kid even if he wasn't married.
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>>73611961
There is effectively no such thing as a pre-nup. Family court hudges will seize assets not held by the husband if they think the husband used it to hide from the wife. The law is whatever a hysterical woman says it is.
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>>73612152
Yeah, like marriage is anything close to what it meant once.

Like it or not muslim marriage is how Christian marriage used to be, and that was beneficial for both partners. One provider (the man) and one homemaker (the woman), with the man holding most rights in the marriage.

Nowadays this doesn't exist, blame jews or not there's nothing beneficial about marriage, you can have kids outside of marriage without any problems (this used to be a taboo), you can live together without marriage (this used to be a taboo too).

Marriage as an institution is just a sham.
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>>73612212
You know we track wealth right. You can look at the stats people who never marry have much less property, wealth, and income
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>>73612221
my wife does the laundry in her lingerie

have fun jerking off
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>>73612337
Go back to r9k
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>>73612241
Having children is the ultimate form of child abuse.
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>>73612345
correlation and causation etc.
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If you want to get married, do it the old-fashioned way. Just go over to a church with your friends and family and make your vows.

DO NOT get a state-issued marriage license. Those were created about 100 years ago to distribute the income from men to women.
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>>73611294
>50% statistical probability
>assumes

Don't teach much maths in Canada, do they?
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>>73612360
You were believable before. Now, you just blew it.
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>>73612474
Read
>>73611919
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>>73612423
The world will be better if YOU specifically don't breed.
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>>73611130
Runkku kullini sykkii tuolle perseelle, veliseni.
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>>73611130
What the fuck does money have to do with marriage? It's about love.
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>>73611130
enjoy masturbationg!!!

i'm never getting married either. i don't care about white population. i'm here and then i'm gone. i'll enjoy those years instead of taking care of some female adult who probably wont even let me eat her pussy in the back pew at church while the deacon is shaking the offering basket at us
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>>73611130
for that are "marriage contracts" in which you can literal write what you want if the "partner" agree its there problem.. my friend has such a thing because he became in testament view ha land and nice house but the girl became nothing if she leave him ...
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>>73611635

FCUKING THIS!

Looks wise im better than my gf, by a good couple of points at least.
The safety i have is bliss since i know she loves me.
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>>73611130
>lose half your shit

Only if you marry someone who is poor as fuck and owns nothing. Which, why the fuck would you be doing that? If you marry outside of your class, you deserve what you get for buying into the true love meme
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>>73611919
>I lived with my wife for three years before I married her and my relationship is fine.
>lived with my wife for 3 years before I married her
>lived with her 3 years before I married her

Canadian common law states couples cohabitating 6-12 months (depending on region) are de facto married. She could have divorced your ass for any reason she chose while you were doing your due diligence and taken half your shit.
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>>73612771
it's called a prenuptial agreement here in the US.
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>>73612697
I don't care if I make the world better or not; it hasn't earned my benevolence. Hope you don't project that anger onto your children.
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>>73611635
>hypergamy having much to do with physical appearance

Learn the meaning of the words you use retard
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It's not a half-chance of her taking half.

It's a 65% chance of her taking more than you have, sending you to debtor's prison for not making as much money as the family law court thinks you can make. Before they send you to prison, they will wipe random bank accounts causing you and several other people's lives to suddenly grind to a halt.

Family law courts are above the law. There are things they do every day which civil and criminal courts cannot come close to doing. Mafia bosses get acquitted because the criminal court didn't follow due process closely enough. In the court of family law there is no such thing as due process or acquittal.

The fate of discarded husbands is eerily similar to the fate of unpersons in 1984.
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>>73612827
and what keeps you from leaving her for a sexier chick?
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>>73611130
agreed. actually, on top of not getting married, I wanna stay single as well.

sadly, I only know complete shit women that all suck dogballs.
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>>73611130
50% of marriages end in divorce, but fewer than 50% of people will ever have a divorce.
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Don't marry someone who isn't earning around equal, or greater than you
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>>73612957
And that changes what?
Do I have to be married another two decades before I'm out of the danger zone of being divorced?
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>>73611130
What about "marriage articiles"? or whatever you call this in english? In Poland it's called "intercyza" and it mens that if you'd divorce your wife she wouldn't get anything you own. So if you bought the house, she won't get it. If you were the only one making money, she won't get your savings, etc. etc.
If your "beloved" wife wouldn't want to sing something like that it's an obvious sing that she doesn't love you and only wants you for the future divorce.
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>>73613025
99% of people who get married don't know how to do a prenup. Long story short, you need two completely different lawyers and they need time and money to do their thing.

People refuse to believe this, so they are incapable of actually doing it. Or if you want an easier answer: just never sign the marriage contract in the first place. Don't live in states which seek out any possible excuse to v& a man because a woman said so.
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>>73611130
But anon im a NEET and my fiance has more money than i do
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>>73613030
Who gives a shit what a genetic dead end thinks? No one cares about sad sacks like you.
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>>73612212
In the US we just call them "Commonwealth States. In certain states it works the same way as in Europe. As long as men are aware of the Commonwealth Laws of their State/Country/Region men can be OK.
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>>73613181
Poland is not the west.

One of the defining traits of being a western country is that women can torture kids to death and still have zero consequences.
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>>73613061
Its actually mostly physical appearance, girls only want to date the top 20% of guys looks and height wise. They also will date rich average/ugly guys but they wont "love" them.
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>>73613263
What's funny is that you think you give yourself value by propagating your genetics. You exist for no other purpose.
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mgtow and the likes need to fucking die

you're worse than fucking muslims, I don't expect muslims to be ethical, decent people
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>>73613411
I know that when it comes to kids women usually get the right, it's a bitch to get rights for them in Poland too but i meant about property like don't you have US version of "intercyza"?
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>>73611919
This does not protect you from the risk of divorce. She can change her mind about you at any time: one, three or thirty years of relationship do not make any difference.

t. son of parents who divorced after 33 years of marriage because my mom is a whore.
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>>73613541
Talking shit about someone else's life when you don't have the basics.

Sad sack
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>>73611623
>he think ANY women have the same odds.

its not a roulette table fucking autist
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>>73613546
MGTOW is the result of modern feminism. You should really be blaming modern feminism, and not MGTOW.

>mfw I'm not a MGTOW because I'm not gay.
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>>73611919
Wait for it. It's coming.

You're no better than a run of the mill gambling addict who imagines he can beat the odds with something more than luck.

She's gonna leave you for a bigger cock with more money one day. Screencap for truth.
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>>73613176
>And that changes what?
You should rethink your position advocating others to live with their girlfriends before marriage to screen them for potential divorce.

Learn to read.
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>>73611443
>second income
Not very traditional.
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>>73613759
You shouldn't do it on the principle. Why give anyone that kind of power over your life? People kill themselves because they're ruined so absolutely by bitches in divorce courts. One guy set himself on fire outside a courthouse like one of those fucking Tibetan monks.

http://freekeene.com/2011/06/16/thomas-james-ball-self-immolated-in-protest-of-the-justice-system/

I don't know why anyone chooses to assume that kind of risk. I certainly won't until the system is changed to be fair. It isn't right that men should accept women having all the legal power in marriage and we should just trust them not to fuck us.
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>>73611919
Exactly. Spend a year or two finding someone you're not going to divorce. If you get in arguments then chances are it's not going to work out so don't marry them. Marriage just multiplies the problems so if you don't have any it's nbd
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>>73613547
well if you fuck any waman you get and than have some kids no wonder but if you are in a relationship/marriage and have a "contract" agreement on paper who owns what in germany you can add children care as well ...but many people dont know this or have no money for notary and lawyer and then has the mother the "right"
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>>73614048
URRR DURR DIVORCE IS 50% THEREFORE ANY WOMEN HAS A COIN FLIP TRIGGER THAT RANDOMLY LANDS NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. DUN U UNDURRSTAND WHAT 50% IS IN CANADA

What a fucking simpleton you are please commit suicide
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>>73613739
"Having the basics" is purely subjective. I don't consider having children a basic necessity in my life nor would I assign self worth to it.
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dont marry a girl if shes one of the following:
- not a virgin
- has tattoos
- has piercings anywhere other than her ears
- her parents are divorced
- her parents were/are alcoholics/drug addicts
- is pro choice

anything else you can deal with, but those are huge red flags, steer clear from those and you will have a good wife
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>>73614048
nice one US guy kek
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>>73612145
Personally, because I'm a bog flinging potato nigger.

I'll tell you why people don't have kids: they can't afford them. When boomers had kids, they also had house prices in line with wages. It wasn't cheap, but it certainly wasn't unattainable and a bit of graft would see you in a decent place to provide your family with the most important thing of all: security.

House prices have inflated 5 times beyond wages now. Couple that with rising populations, stagnated wages, the demand of usually totally unnecessary third level degrees by employers to do monkey work, and the utterly unpredictable and badly organised rental market and having kids suddenly seems like the absolute last thing on your mind and an extremely bad idea. If you have enough money, good on you. If you don't, you're fucked. And if you do have them anyway, they're fucked because you won't be able to afford a good future for them.

So yeah, being alive for no reason. Might as well enjoy the party.
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>>73614386
Someone seems fucking mad. Get bent Marriage fag.
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>>73611919
>im special and immune to the odds

have fun with ur future divorce you uneducated cuck.
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>>73614616
oh look a mgtow faggot. probably a fat unprincipled fat neckbeard

why wimminz go with da bad boi im so much better because reasons
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>>73611926
This is true for any person that got fooled in any situation.

The careless deserve to suffer in life.
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>>73614439
It isn't subjective.

I know you're a moral relativist sad sacks usually are. Its a great coping mechanism for failing
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>>73611130
That's assuming it's purely random and I have no influence over the outcome of my marriage.
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>>73611443
>But adding a second income to your household is the smartest thing you can do.
this shit... This shit right here is what fucked America. Allowing women into the work force and homes now having two incomes fucked up our economy. You think Jews ain't wise to this shit? Homes now have 2+ incomes and now we can jack up the prices of homes, rent, cars, food... Not to mention all the women/feminism shit we have to deal with in society today.
Women's rights movement was the single biggest fuck up to happen to America. Allowing women to have a voice destroyed this country.
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>>73612474
that guy's pretty stupid but if you had even the most remote clue as to what you're talking about you'd know our education system is far more advanced and comprehensive than yours. In terms you might understand, they teach much more maths than in the US.
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>>73614446
- not a virgin
- has tattoos
- pro-choice
- different religion than me
- overweight

These are the only dealbreakers for me, everything else I can work with. I'm not going to hold a girl accountable for the behavior of her parents.
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>>73611443
>But adding a second income to your household is the smartest thing you can do.

>more income
>sacrifice exclusive rights to any of it.

what a loser

i bet you're a poor, with shitty fiscal logic like that.

>c-c-c-cmon guise getting robbed its actually a good thing!
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>>73614099
>Not very traditional.

Well I didn't increase the property values in the west by %1600 by importing millions and millions of immigrants. You need two incomes now.
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>>73614602
You nailed it
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>sign prenup
>years go by
>she decides she is unsatisfied
>prenup doesn't count because reasons
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>>73615138
>needs to own land
>needs a housing bubble
>needs to live in the West

you're a moron, no wonder your married.

another fucking mark for the cons here!
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>>73611868
>About 50% of marriages end up in a divorce so it's a valid risk.

The average person who remarries does so more than once. People remarry 2, 3, 4 or even 5 or more times. When this is taken into account only less than 25% are degenerate whores. Keep playing along with the jew lies. They say this shit because they do not white men making liberty minded child.
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Whats the point of marriage anyways?

The point is to breed and produce good quality whiite children + raise them properly

Civic marriage isin't really a neccesity at all anymore
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>>73611130
I was talking w/ my gf about marriage, and we share the same opinion about it.

Marriage is a sacred covenant between a man and a woman, and only to be broken due to infidelity.
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>>73611130
Holla we want prenupt
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>>73611130
Not marrying if my only option is to browse through OKCupid like some chump motherfucker. Would rather kill myself than resort to e-dating.
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>>73614950
Please define how I have failed in an objective manner, if you know so much about my life.
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>>73615272
>Needs to own land

Yes, I need to own my own property

>Needs housing bubble

Reading comprehension

>Needs to live in the west

By west I am talking about western civilization

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>73611734
I am working on a muslim qt atm because i feel they will be far more loyal.
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if you're with a woman for a long time you can be considered common-law married anyhow

and yes, they can still legally claim half your shit.
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>ITT: Virgins that have never had a relationship tell other Virgins why their relationships will fail
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>>73614386
Generalizing means expectation of actions from some member of a group with the same attributes or behavior pattern
I think that nobody here is really believing it's 50% fr every chick, some have 80% some have 20%

But you might get drunk and hit her, or she might blow a guy, and she might file for a divorce sooner than people did before 50 years.
Even high quality females/mothers might be pulled because the courts work in their favor.
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> Be me:
> Married, kids, sometimes argue with wife but never am lonely and we make up fast
> Kids are awesome, we created human beings to carry out our bloodlines
> Every day is a blessing
> I make below the national average but our combined incomes makes us comfortable

Feels good, man
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>>73614784
Nice try retard, I'm actually 6' and fit, and I'm getting a degree that will pay $65k/year out of college with 100% employment.

And I have a GF that I've been dating for 1.5 years who's obsessed with marriage and wants me to marry her ass so bad.

Of course, the reason i'm on the side of MGTOW cucks is because the divorce rates are so high. My parents got divorced back in 2000 because my Mom just didn't love my dad anymore for some reason. So, she left my dad, taking half his shit (including all the furniture and giving it away to some Mexican family), taking the kids (all 3 of us), and taking home a decent sized child support check every month, all while calling my Dad an abuser and getting in a new relationship less than a month after they separated.

Meanwhile, my Dad had to support all 3 of us without seeing us, while providing for my Mom. He never got into a relationship after the divorce and he contemplated suicide many times.

Yeah fuck Marriage, really seems worth it for the guy. :^)
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>>73611734
it all depends on wich "muslim" country you're talking about: i lived in Morocco for 12 years (i'm french), wich is a well westernized country, divorce laws are almost identical to those in the US and Canada. The woman and her children are always priviliged against the man.
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>>73615759
>dating for 1.5 years who's obsessed with marriage and wants me to marry her ass so bad.
>Of course, the reason i'm on the side of MGTOW cucks is because the divorce rates are so high. My parents got divorced back in 2000 because my Mom just didn't love my dad anymore for some reason. So, she left my dad, taking half his shit (including all the furniture and giving it away to some Mexican family), taking the kids (all 3 of us), and taking home a decent sized child support check every month, all while calling my Dad an abuser and getting in a new relationship less than a month after they separated.
>Meanwhile, my Dad had to support all 3 of us without seeing us, while providing for my Mom. He never got into a relationship after the divorce and he contemplated suicide many times.
>Yeah fuck Marriage, really seems
Knock her up at least
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I would rather spend the rest of my life in prison then let some cunt take half of what was mine before i got married.

Wanna take my shit? you can take these rounds.
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>>73615922
>knocking up a chick before Marrying her

That's a terrible idea. That's what happened with my parents (I was at my parents wedding, shotgun wedding)
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Having no kids is the ultimate degeneracy.
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>>73612635
Why isnt that believable. Ever played Unreal Tournament with ur qt under the desk?
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>>73615922
why did you never hit your fucking mom int the mouth?
she is actively destroying your and your brothers lives and your dad's too
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Girlfriend makes 3 times as much money as I do. She wants to get married. I don't see the downside.
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>>73616018
Why marry her though? It isn't required for pregnancy. I'm married and happy but understand it isn't for everyone, if you know you don't want to be married that's great. But no kids... that's for losers.
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>>73615759
Marriage in its current form is not worth it for the guy thats why you have to man up and tell her you will not marry unless she accepts a new marriage contract. (pre and post nup)

Child support is there even if you don't marry, its the risk you take having kids.
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>>73616033
having 9 of them and getting child support and living in trailer park is worse
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>>73616135
I honestly would love to have a couple kids, and have my legacy and white genes live on. It just seems more right to be married when you have kids.

I'm just so fucking afraid of it because of what happened to my dad.
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>>73616033
You're wasting your time. This type of thread attracts every r9k faggot on /pol/.
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>>73611130
See this thread.
Again.

Sigh.
>More: "I'm a frustrated manchild who does nothing more with their life than post angry messages on an Angolan Trebuchet Builders imageboard so I never get to meet 10/10 women so therefore I hate all women because they must all be like the sane, rational ones who saw me for what I am, rejected me and ran a fucking mile..."

You keep on keeping on there Jr.
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>>73616218
>having 9 of them and getting child support and living in trailer park is worse

Really??? Having 9 children carry on your bloodline while some other sucker foots the bill is bad? That's the most based thing you can do! You are literally getting society to be your cuck and you are the bull.
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>>73611130
These days men lose 80-90% of their assets in divorce, not 50%.

You still think its only 50%? Haha what do you think this is, the 1990s?
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>>73616313
Do you talk to your mom still?
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>>73612827
>he thinks women are capable of loving men
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>>73616370
It's not about hatred for women (necessarily), more just about the fact that you can't alway trust them and thus, marriage is often times not worth it.
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>>73616033
>everything I don't like is degeneracy
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>>73616404
Yup, all the time. She's very loving and kind (at least to me), but she's a raging alcoholic who won't live past 60.

Even though my Mom did some ridiculous shit in the past and even now, I still love her.
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>>73616372
>living in trailer park or a ghetto
>based
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>>73616597
I would disown anyone who did something like this to my father.

Then I would throw her in the most ghetto nigger infested home when she got older.

Men are the problem here, they let this shit happen to their own fathers and carry on like its nothing.
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>>73616616
Laugh dude, those ghetto dwellers will be replacing your people. Your people carried on for thousands of years, every one of your ancestors struggled and had children, and now in the easiest time to live ever you don't feel like having kids because you are too proud. So yeah, the ghetto dwellers with a 70 iq are more based than you.
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>>73613632
this does
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>>73612152

Stop implying most white men have a choice in the matter. Cultural institutions have already been destroyed and tradition is not only no longer in existence, it's actively humiliated against. When you have these two subverted already it makes procreation even more difficult than it already was. Think you'll have good control over your kids while having to simultaneously send them to a public school with Mrs. Marxist teaching them Common Core and how great a thing it is that little Billy has two faggot dads? Think again. And you might as well commit suicide should you have a daughter.

Unfortunately, the destruction of all of the above were both originally promoted by and for women, and still are to this day actively encouraged by women. While I won't write off every single woman as being against any of this, it's only relegated towards extreme religious families ala Pentecostals and the like (which probably wouldn't marry someone on /pol/ anyway, and even then the adoption of little nigger babies seems to be chic with them nowadays).
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>tfw married and happy so far
>32 years old, wife is 27
>I have a good paying career with great benefits she can leech off
>She works a decent paying part-time job as a paralegal
>It's enough to fully pay our mortgage and the monthly payment on my car+insurance
>I still get dinner in the evening and a clean house

It's pretty much perfect. We are so hesitant to bring a kid into the situation.
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>>73616841
Why??
Now is the time for you to have kids. Your wife's eggs aren't going to be perfect for too long. They say that after 30, birth defects increase substantially, you need to impregnate your wife now. Don't be an idiot, you have a great situation.
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>>73611130
>This is what prenups are for.
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>>73617032

Perhaps. It's not something we take lightly like some sort of filthy minority.
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>>73611635
>Girls are never happy unless they're in a hypergamous relationship, and even then if you have a small dick or poor etc. you might get cheated on.
Is that what women mean when they say "knows how to keep a woman"? Funny.

Also...>>73611130
BACK TO >>>/r9k/ MGTOW good goys, keep your self-pity demoralization pity party in your sewer. Not everyone is a permavirgin and wants to commiserate endlessly about it.
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>>73611868
only ten percent or so of virgin marriages end in divorce
per additional pre-marital partner that chance goes up
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>>73616533
>marriage is often times not worth it.
Ok, I'll bite
Married nearly 20 yrs, couple of kids here

Maybe, just may some of the people who frequent this board need to look at themselves, their behavior and attitude to wards others (not just women)
If they did, and had any self awareness they might realise that they too bear some of the responsibility and then in doing so might take some of that responsibility on
>it's all very well quoting divorce stats. Until you remember that it takes two to tango.
I'm not saying "women" are blameless, I'm saying immature attitudes from guys who come here probably don't help.

>>73616841
Do it m8, life changes for the MUCH MUCH BETTER
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>>73611130
>Marrying a poor woman.

Are you retard? At least marry someone at your level, so even if a divorce occur you don't lose much
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Help me out guys...

>Learned about pickup 4 years ago
>Finally got success 2 years ago
>Am able to pull 7's and below consistently off of dating apps for one night stands(2-3 times a week if I focus).
>I consider myself overall to be a 7 although I could go higher if my diet was tighter
>Friends girlfriend comes on to me, initially I reject her because she is only a 6 and I knew my friend for 5 years.
>I tell him and they break up.
>She continues to text message me and I decide to fuck her since her pictures that she has on facebook make her look like an 8.
>Find out her photo's on facebook are 3 years old and that she is a 6 in real life. Still fuck her because why not.
>She keeps buying me stuff and eventually flies us out to Hawaii.
>I tell her we can only be something if she looses weight, whitens her teeth, lets me fuck her in the ass, and let me fuck other girls until we live together. She agrees.
>We enter a relationship.
> I make 42k, she makes 132k in SF as a software developer.
>She has depression and anxiety and although she wears my Trump hat says she can't vote for him because of how he treats women BAKA
>She wants to get married.

Is there any downside to getting married? Even if it doesn't work out or if I cheat on her?
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>>73617134
Kids add human capital to your tribe. You're worried about your income when in reality you are taking millions of dollars out of your family by not having kids.
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>>73616841
Kids definitely add some drama, they also add a magic I never experienced before in my life. Playing with my kids before work is really a greater experience than anything else on earth. When their face lights up as you walk in the door it is the greatest feeling in the world. /nohomo
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>>73617134
>Perhaps. It's not something we take lightly like some sort of filthy minority.
What are reasons not to?
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>>73617229
She's a obvious whore.


Marry and you'll be cucked
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>>73613112
not being a retard ?
the concept of honour?
children?
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>>73617229
>>She continues to text message me and I decide to fuck her since her pictures that she has on facebook make her look like an 8.
>>Find out her photo's on facebook are 3 years old and that she is a 6 in real life. Still fuck her because why not.
Jesus! Shit's fucked yo.
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>>73617320

Mainly intangible reasons. If it will make us happy and such.
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>>73617229
She sounds like a real headcase, and not a good idea to marry.

Great benefits, but she seems like she has some serious issues.

However, it might be a good idea to marry since she's the breadwinner and not you.
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>>73614745
the odds can be changed for individual rolls
virgin adds a large chance to not fuck up
stable family on her side adds another large bit
her being the same race and culture adds yet more
if you add all those up the divorce rate can go to a single digit
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>>73617509
It'll definitely make you happy in the long run, and your life will feel more fulfilling knowing you're adding good, hard working people into the population.
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>>73611130
This mentality is pointless.

>the car doesn't work well so it's best not to drive it
Instead you should be thinking
>how can I fix this car so it continues to work
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>>73617512
Yeah she is a bit of a headcase, she can't even drive a car or make office appointments. I'm also worried that she will never be able to get back into the great shape she used to be(she was very skinny because she was depressed and didn't eat).

I do like that she doesn't feel like most girls who try to use me as a pocketbook(since she pays). She is also relatively smart and logical(for a woman) and I can let my freak flag fly.

Thanks for the input.
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>>73617182
man that picture is hitting hard
how do I go from ω+ to γ+
pls help :(
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>>73611130

Courts can throw out prenups. It's insane. The world is dead.
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>>73617916
Good luck fixing women. I'll be over here enjoying my fried chicken, corn bread, and cherry soda.
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>>73616121
She'll have three times as much money for her lawyer.
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>>73614784
wow, divorce rates skyrocketed after the immigration and nationality act of 1965 and the united states was suddenly swarmed with an influx of everything-but-whites from everywhere-but-europe? you don't say
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>>73618437
Have fun, but I don't feel like dying from cardiovascular disease at the age of 30.
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>>73617182
tfw a+
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>>73611130
There's no reason to marry anymore.
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>>73618690
Best healthcare in the world here. I don't have to worry about that.
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>>73614950
>hurr durr i put my dick in a pussy so i'm a winner hurrdurr good college degree? great success? being a respectable person? nah! fuck is my greatest success and i'm superior being than others who didn't hurr durrhrhhrhrhddsa
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>>73611130
>what is a prenup

Yes women are shit, at least (especially) in America but as long as you aren't some kind of retard you're fine.
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>>73611130
YOU
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>>73615990
I was thinking same thing... Bullets first.
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>>73611130
Cute botty. I want to ravage her arsehole.
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>>73611130
It's this kind of liberal shit that gets into the heads of women like yours. remember before the 60's happened? we're seeing the effects of cultural marxism in the women that go running to the niggers when the men became pussies. now in 40% of all american households a woman is the head of the house. GET MARRIED AND STAY MARRIED! MAGA!
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>>73611130
I`d pay a dime for reliable offshore contract marriage, so my marriage will be on the private terms - not govt.regulated.
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>>73615990
>>73619836
>Experience problems in relationship? Resort immediately to gun violence.

Nigger behavior.
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>>73611443

Thats not taking into account that a second income increases the risk of divorce.
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>>73612002
> Prenups do shit
> Burgerland
pick one
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