http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/08/trump-ended-republican-party-agreeing-obama-raising-taxes-rich.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im
>Donald Trump just took back his tax plan of a $3.2 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires, and replaced it with President Obama and the Democratic Party’s plan of raising taxes on the rich while lowering taxes on everyone else.
>The Republican Party is universally opposed to raising taxes. The GOP agrees on nothing, but the one point that they all agree on is that taxes should not be raised on anyone. Trump has just come along and blown up the party.
Good job, you stupid fucking niggers. You just fucked everything up. You all will pay dearly for this.
>>73407526
Hitler would've taxed the rich.
NATIONAL SOCIALISM
in b4 'taxation is thaft xd'
No it fucking isn't. When you take part in business, you are agreeing to follow the rules of your country of residence, and the rule is everyone has to chip in. This isn't Socialism, this is common sense. The rich will be no less rich from this. They can still afford that new villa and that holiday to Polynesia, you don't need to cry for those poor victims.
Socialism is fucking bad, this isn't socialism.
I'm not even a Trumpfag.
>>73407650
>WAH I'M A POOR LIBERAL NIGNOG THAT TAXING THE RICH WILL SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS
>>73407817
TAXATION IS THEFT YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT. ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING MONEY. YOU DIDN'T WORK FOR IT YOU ENTITLEMENT COCK SUCKING BITCH
>>73407873
>Being this dumb
We need to kill the niggers and spics and set up a socialist system to benefit white people and white children, you fucking kike.
>>73407963
If you're so insistent, how about we make it so those who do not want to pay taxes can't use public services? Except needed shit like roads.
>>73408405
>being a socialist
You need to be put to death.
>>73408459
Stupid britcuck, this is the U.S. We don't pay an Ahmed tax here. Besides, private roads are better than public roads.
>>73407526
He's always had said he would pay more taxes with his tax plans. The top payers have more loopholes to pay less than tax rate. Just get the bullshit and not reward those he have money to snake around the laws.
This is awesome, imo. He's stated ideally he would do his tax plan but he may negotiate to cut taxes massively on everyone and raise them on the super rich. This isn't socialism, it's logic. He's held this view since the early nineties at least. He still is in favor of lowering taxes tremendously, but he knows his tax plan would never get done.
>>73408600
>ahmed tax
please use an actual argument
btw i don't support welfare
>trump took back his tax plan
No he didn't , he has always said this
Many of the rich pay less than 39% due to loopholes and shiiet. If he takes those loopholes out of the equation and decreases the tax rate to 30%, some rich will pay more.
>>73408600
If socialist elements help your race, then what's wrong with them?
Your absolute freedom fantasy is worthless when your family is killed by violent niggers who were subsidized by scheming kikes with lots of money.
>>73408612
This is like how on his healthcare plan he said he wants everyone to have access to healthcare , yet people ignored that and thought he was reversing his position on "not letting people die in the streets". This was in his tax plan: the part about cutting loopholes.
>Shills pretending like this is a new position even though it's been known for months
>posts Hitler to pretend like he's one of us
This is the same tactic used when Trump restated that he would defend Israel.
Kill yourself, shills.
>>73408612
>He's always had said he would pay more taxes with his tax plans.
No he fucking didn't. He said he would cut taxes completely. Stop shilling.
>>73408770
>It's awesome
No, it's not - you dumbfuck. Raising taxes is theft. You're so fucking stupid you honestly believe more money should go to Tyrone and Shaqinua's education?
>Taxation isn't socialism
Why should I pay more in taxes if it's raising dumb children, such as yourself, who don't even fucking understand one of the core principles of socialism? Are you literally brain dead?
>>73407873
>WAHHHHHHH IM A RIGHTWING NUTJOB AND THINK THE RICH SHOULD PAY LESS TAXES WAHHHH
>>73407526
Angry rich Jew detected. Mad that you aren't going to control the world any longer, Soros?
>>73409039
He's cutting loopholes. Which has been his position since the beginning.
>>73408959
He won't close loopholes, dumbass. It's a red herring. You're dodging the argument.He fucking lied, and you idiots still support him. You literally voted for a guy over two Republicans who never said they would raise taxes.
Why are there always so many bootlickers on this board? It's not like the tax would affect any of you - that is unless you make >$500k.
>>73409162
>A fucking leaf
Literally a cuck.
>>73409196
Found the nigger? Mad because I don't want to pay for your welfare check, you fucking leech?
>>73409246
>muh shekels
Your argument.
>>73407526
>>73407650
>>73407817
>>73407873
>>73407963
>>73408405
>>73409499
>>73409387
>>73409273
>>73409246
>>73409217
>>73409196
>>73409162
Reminder that Eisenhower raised rich peoples taxes to 92%
>>73409499
>People that work for a living should pay for my degenerate, NEET ass instead of getting a job
Your argument.
>>73409387
No, but you're mad that you are going to be paying more taxes, Schlomo. No more funding leftist shit, you worthless lampshade.
>giving rich people more money is the only core value the GOP has anymore
Let it die
And yes, the government is giving the rich money, subsidies, trade agreements, bailouts
>>73409743
THIS! And besides Eisnehower the best republican raised taxes on the rich to 92%!
>>73409694
I wish I could defend against this but considering your not even arguing against a position trump takes I'm just going to assume your being paid to shill.
>>73409682
>Eisenhower wasn't wrong
He wasn't even a good president, or even a decent military general.
Besides the fact, idiot, we don't have a messiah complex in the United States. Go back your communist shithole in N.K. if you think otherwise.
Who gives a fuck what Eisenhower did?
We're talking about Trump.
>>73409902
You can't argue because you already lost, you're a thief. You're a criminal for the government who believes you are entitled to other people's money.
You're the fucking shill. You're a marxist who believes in taxation. Fuck you nigger.
>>73409914
Eisenhower was the President during the Goldenage moron. Go to Somalia if you love free markets so much. Not to mention you aren't rich so why do you care if they get taxed or not?
>>73409694
>People that work for a living should pay for my degenerate, NEET ass instead of getting a job
Aha...
You know there are people who work 40 hours a week and still qualify for welfare due to low income? I am one of them.
>>73410187
The guy is either a shill, a nutjob, or rich himself which is VERY unlikely.
>>73410060
You're from Canada. You have no idea what you're talking about. In fact, get the fuck out of my thread.
Your socialist shithole embarrassment of a country already disqualifies you from this discussion. You have no room to talk with your disgrace of a Prime Minister. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself letting him take power in the first place you fucking cuck
>>73407526
>The GOP doesn't support Trump
>They all jump on supporting Johnson
>The libertarian party replaces the GOP.
>>73407526
Has anybody actually watched the interview?
He said his tax plan is a floor, but through negotiations the taxes will probably be higher than his plan.
>bernie cult actually believing that the president has absolute power to pass anything they want
Bernie wouldnt be able to pass any of his proposals because both parties hate him, I really hope you guys realize
>>73410468
No, they're gonna run Romney
>>73410425
You're from America. You have no idea what you're talking about you fascist. Get the fuck out.
I also never voted for him I voted for Mulclair.
>>73410187
>Finland
>Socialist country
Why should I give a fuck about Finland's welfare system? I'm American. It's not my fault you were too stupid to better yourself.
FLIP FLOPPIN DON
>>73410514
LOL you're in a cult. President has way more power than you think.
>>73407526
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/05/donald-trumps-economy/481743/
Nice """"""""""plan""""""""""
>>73410608
>WOOOOOOOOSH
thats the sound of something flying over your head at high speed.
Good. People like Soros should be taxed at 99%.
>>73410608
>stupid
>not being born in a rich family that gets you into Ivy League means you're stupid
You're actually retarded or a paid shill
>>73407873
Good goy.
>>73410514
You're retarded. You realize that the GOP is poised to take both the Senate and The House, yet, you're saying he doesn't have the power to pass a tax plan that lowers taxes? How fucking stupid are you?
>>73407526
Hahahaha.
Pay up, kikes.
>>73410735
You don't live in my country. I honestly don't give a fuck about you. I don't feel sorry for you.
>>73407526
>just took back his tax plan of a $3.2 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires, and replaced it with President Obama and the Democratic Party’s plan
no he didn't
kys.
fucking press interpreting everything whichever way they please.
Trump has always stated that while his plan is a nominal decrease, the effective tax paid by rich folks inclunding himself would be higher.
>>73409039
Yes he did. You have the marginal tax rates and effective tax rates. The rich theoretically pay large amounts of taxes, but they get deductions and such. The top 10% not in the top 1% actually pay the highest % of taxes from their income due to their being so many loopholes.
Trump entire position it to change it so you can't cheat the system. He's said so many times he has the resources to exploit it with his companies and it's not fair to others.
>>73409914
>Eisenhower
>communist
You're fucking retarded. Your money will be better in my hands. ; )
Tax avoidance is a left-wing principle. Just look at the relationship between Obama, GE and MSNBC. Not to mention companies like Google or Facebook and their relationship with the state of California. The left wants to tax the middle class, or anyone who isn't enormously wealthy, disproportionately.
>>73407526
>you will all pay dearly for this.
No we won't because we who support Trump do so because the republican party completely ignored us and the things we care about, and often as not worked directly against us in favor of profit for themselves and their masters.
We cannot be made to pay dearly because we literally have nothing to lose the nation we care about is already being dismantled and sold, by your neocons before our very eyes.
Ted would have dismantled it, kasich would have dismantled it, Hillary dismantle it if she wins, rubio wanted to dismantle it, jeb wanted to dismantle it, Trump might not. That is what the republican party left us with a choice of whether to vote for the republican who was gonna sell us out, or the democrat who was gonna sell us out, we instead chose to vote for the orangutan who wasn't gonna sell us out, because we had nothing to lose.
>>73411058
He's not rich he's probably on welfare so he'll be the ones getting the money
>>73410983
Stop lying you fucking idiot
Donald Trump:
>For the wealthy, frankly, I think it’s going to go up. And you know what? I think it should go up.
>For the wealthy, frankly, I think it’s going to go up. And you know what? I think it should go up.
>For the wealthy, frankly, I think it’s going to go up. And you know what? I think it should go up.
He literally said it. You need to kill yourself for being this stupid, you stupid fucking Kraut.
He is correct that his plan would never get passed as it is. It's something cruz never admitted about his 'abolition' of the irs' (which was really just a simple tax form too). That would have never passed the way he promised it.
>>73411058
You can't read? I said we don't have a messiah complex in the United States. Nobody has to follow Eisenhower when it comes to decision making, retard. Dumbass liberal.
>>73407963
That's not an argument against taxes.
>>73410952
Your inability to responding to me tells me otherwise.
>>73411135
You're actually so dumb. YOUR NOT RICH SO WHY DO YOU CARE! Eisenhower made U.S the richest nation so why don't you want to follow that? And U.S does have a Messiah project.
>>73410983
He's been saying it since at least 1999, in an interview for cnn.
>"Right-wing" Americans literally believe that a small number of families / dynasties should control a huge majority of their economy
Has anyone been schlomo'd harder than a "right-wing" American?
>HURR DURR I HAVE A RELATIVELY COMFORTABLE LOWER MIDDLE-CLASS LIFE SO DON'T TAX BILLIONAIRES
It's truly worrying that people actually think like this.
>>73411241
It is, idiot. You didn't work for the money. Why do you believe you deserve something you never had ownership of?
>>73411273
No, I'm just reminding you because you keep talking to me. I don't give a fuck about you. Your country is a shithole of Chinese immigrants. Fuck off.
>>73411202
Doesn't matter. Eisenhower was based and Trump will be president.
>>73411135
Remember Romney's famous words
>i have never paid less than 13% tax in the last X years
the highest tax bracket has NEVER been less than 35% in the past 15 years.
Rich people tax will go up in the sense that they will bloody well PAY WHAT THEY SHOULD instead of dodging it
>>73411402
Sure.
>>73410882
Poised =/= guarenteed
Wasn't Reagan poised to lose in a landslide at this point in the race?
>>73411361
I know. And they didn't even get their money properly. U.Kers worry me because they think like this. The rich got their money through bailouts.
>>73411361
>People with the superior genetics and the people who built the American economy should not majority control of it
>Minority groups need 'dem reparations.
Same stupid coon argument every time.
Trump was always going to "raise taxes" on the rich. He started off with his platform of Wall St reform and other similar things as being a more moderate alternative to Bernie Sanders. He hasn't really changed his M.O on this issue - its about putting "America first" which means closing loopholes, and yes, taxing the rich.
The trick is that Trump knows how to sell an investment. He isn't going to pin this as "the right thing to do" to the rich. He's going to sell it to them in the form of giving them kickbacks later in his term, after the middle class has recovered.
>>73411566
>Superior Genetics
>Happen to have a great great great great grandfather who got lucky by being born to an inbred nobleman.
Not to mention before 1920 it was almost illegal for anyone who wasn't a WASP to get rich.
>make this thread previously
>get BTFO
>make the thread again
>get BTFO again
>th-third time's the charm!!
no
Donald Trump wants Congress to discuss his tax policy and has said he is less concerned with the tax rates for the wealthy than with the middle class
And when it comes to minimum wages, he said he's personally in favor, but wants the States to decide on it
This is all exactly how the Constitution describes how the process should go and how the Founding Fathers envisioned it.
Fuck off, shill
See you in the next fucking thread
>>73410514
>No, YOU'RE IN A CULT
The House and Senate aren't just memes, the president has to go through them for the vast majority of proposals. I just wish I didn't have to describe to retards on pol what should be basic concepts
>>73407526
The Plutocrats deserve it. It gives me great pleasure thinking of the faces that Soros and Zuckerberg will be making when they find out that huge chunks of their income will be used to build The Wall, deport spics, and support the Trumpenreich.
>>73411706
Why do you sound like a SJW minority??? Are you a communist by any chance? Seeing how you live in Canada, and seeing how you're so adamant on stealing peoples' money through taxes, it may as well be true.
Needless play Nintendo instead
>>73407526
The GOP agrees on nothing, but the one point that they all agree on is that taxes should not be raised on anyone.
bs
everytime you privatize government revenue streams you raise taxes for everybody else, and republicans wanna privatize everything
>>73411906
I'm a right-wing Ayn Rand objectivist. However the current rich didn't get their money through proper means, they got it through corporate gibsmedats. You're actually a shill. I'm as far right as you can get.
>>73407526
And my vote is still AGAINST Hillary, because fuck her and fuck you.
>>73412063
>I'm a right-wing Ayn Rand objectivist. However the current rich didn't get their money through proper means,
You're so full of shit that it hurts.
>>73412505
He's a shill.
>>73407526
Trump once said we should do a I think 35 percent tax on the net worth of everyone and every business over a million dollars to clear our debt. He has also supported single payer Healthcare for a long tine. I've said since the beginning this is all for show and once he locks down the primary he will out liberal Bernie. Trump is more if a national socialist than anything.
>implying this is a bad thing
>hurr taxes are theft
This is all the same stuff that made Germany great again, and it will make America great again too.
>>73412584
Explain. Oh yeah you can't
>>73412641
>However the current rich didn't get their money through proper means
That's literally a Bernie Sanders campaign line.
Also, Ayn Rand was a socialist herself too, idiot.
>>73412602
And made America great in the 50s.
>>73412739
>Ayn Rand a socialist
How the hell did you get that?
>>73411906
>SJW
>Minority
>Communist
Are you typing this from your mom's basement or from a trailer park, you fucking retard?
I also have a problem with socialism when it is coupled with mass immigration and open borders, but there is literally nothing wrong with people being taxed on money that they literally don't need in order to help the less fortunate make something of themselves.
Keeping the lower classes in a perpetual state of little education and low employment opportunities is the main thing that is halting the advancement of civilisation to the next era. Yeah it seems fine for you if you manage to claw your way up to a comfortable middle class life yet still the majority of your problems still come from the huge inequality in wealth distribution.
You might be amazed to hear this on account of you being a complete retard but crime levels and quality of life are immensely higher in countries that tax the rich a fair amount and have "mo programs" for the poor.
Would it work in America? Possibly not, on account of the fact that you're not even 60% white any more. Would it work in the majority of rich white countries? Yes, as long as it is not also coupled with mass immigration and open borders.
>>73412823
>This dumbass didn't know Ayn Rand collected Social Security and didn't work
>>73412987
You're so stupid. She had cancer you sick twisted freak. You don't mock someone for having cancer. Not to mention you used public education.
>>73412823
Not sure about socialist but she was a crazy drug addict who collected social security and essentially supported open marriage. And here little clique of objectivists were unironically collectivist and totalitarian and obsessed with creepy psychotherapy.
She's just another example of a Jewish intellectual cult like Freud, Boaz, Rothbard (ancap), Reich, Marx, etc.
>>73413362
You're in a cult you weirdo. You are a socialist too then because you drive on public roads and used public education.
>>73411393
>You didn't work for the money.
The state is working quite hard to secure your private ownership and to protect your legal rights, and the state can use its extra income as it pleases.
>Why do you believe you deserve something you never had ownership of?
Why do you believe you deserve ownership of something you can't keep without the state protecting your right to own it?.
>>73407526
jesus christ shills out in force. He said his negotiating position was cut taxes for everyone, but would sacrifice tax cuts for the rich to get tax cuts for the middle class. He's overestimating the capability of the average retard burger to understand the nuance of that
>>73412971
> from a trailer park
Found the coon. Why do liberals stereotype white, hard working men? We pay for your miserable existance, you cancerous prick
>but there is literally nothing wrong with people being taxed on money that they literally don't need
WHO GAVE YOU FUCKING RIGHT TO DICTATE WHO DOESN'T NEED X AMOUNTS OF MONEY? NO FUCKING ONE DID. NO ONE. YOU ARE ADOVCATING THEFT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHT TO MY HARD WORKED MONEY.
>Keeping the lower classes in a perpetual state of little education and low employment opportunities is the main thing that is halting the advancement of civilisation to the next era.
>Lower class
>Advancement of civilization
You're literally calling for a communist revolution because you're mad at "being poor." You're mad just because there were people more sucessful than you. You're a childish bafoon who believes "equality" needs to exist to control your coon mentality.
Society advances not because you get a government check, you nigger. It advances because of capitalists, like me, that PAY FOR IT. We deserve all the money we receive because WE WORKED FOR IT. You have NO FUCKING RIGHT to take it.
>You might be amazed to hear this on account of you being a complete retard
You're a fucking retard. You're making up some bullshit, emotional argument for communism in the United States. It's pretty obvious you're a fucking socialist cuck from Europe.
>Yes, as long as it is not also coupled with mass immigration and open borders.
Hey, you dumb cuck, HIGHER TAXES PAYS FOR THAT. YOU CAN'T HAVE MASS IMMIGRATION AND OPEN BORDERS WITHOUT TAXES.
Juan gets a taxpayer welfare check. He gets pass the border due to a government incentive. You're a fucking moron.
>>73413596
Burgers are dumb that's for sure.
>>73413461
What the fuck are you talking about leaf? What cult?
And if supporting public goods is necessarily socialist then I guess I'm a socialist then. A nationalist socialist. Hope no one's taken that term already.
>>73411361
lol this. it's like you're not allowed to care about your socio-economic class in America unless you're a billionaire, in which case you're allowed to cuck the rest of the country through tax cuts for your buddies and corporate subsidies.
Trump should tax the shit out of them and use the proceeds to fund the deportation force and high-tech infrastructure.
>>73413652
Funny thing is you're poor as hell and you're defending a system that oppresses you. Meanwhile actually well off people like me are ok with paying a little extra because we aren't selfish assholes.
>>73413702
But this guy claims anyone who uses social security is socialist. He's a dumb burger.
>>73413816
>I'm poor as hell
Projection cacuck
>Oppression
>MUH OPRESSION
Oh give me a bitch you dumb nigger. Tell more about how "OPRESSIVE" it is to be poor in America. Aww boo baby boo hoo dey dun shoot muh childrens?
Fuck you.
There are no "poor" in America. Poor people in America live for free off the government, stop being such a dumbass.
>>73413596
That's all very nice except it now means that he's not getting any more free coverage from the media just for calling Ted Cruz a pussy on twitter.
They have nothing to gain anymore from promoting his retarded campaign.
>>73413884
>He thinks social security isn't socialist
Oh my god. How fucking stupid are you? You realize FDR was a closet communist, right? You realize that social insurance is a type of socialist program, right? How fucking retarded can a person be.
>>73413959
Ahhhh boo hoo the rich have to pay more WAHHHHHHHh
>Tell more about how "OPRESSIVE" it is to be poor in America
No one respects you, no one takes you seriously, harder to have influence in legal procedure, harder to get around, get harassed by police more.
>there are no poor in america
In America they call the poor the "middle class" to make everyone feel better. But no one falls for it anymore.
Before:
>Trump only cares about the 1%! A Trump presidency would be the best thing for billionaires like himself!
Now:
>DRUMPH BTFO LOLOL
>>73412971
You do know that the wealthy pay almost 80% of all tax revenue right? How is it right to take more of their money? I make $9/hr at McDonald's and made I only 16 k last year and I think it's fucked up that just because people are pissy about being poor they think the rich owe them shit. They don't get over it. If I was rich I would move all my money out of the country just because of people like you
>>73414091
OH MY GOD you're so stupid
>this burger thinks anyone who ever used a socialist thing is a communist.
So you're a fucking communist because you've used public education? Right? So now looking at something socialist makes you communist? You're retarded
>>73414283
Nobody is going to put a gun to your head and force you to collect Social Security.
They will if you don't go to public school.
>>73413652
I would love to make a joke about American education but I have seen plenty of American posters on this board who can make intelligent and articulate arguments, sadly you're not one of them. May I ask how old you are? Are you a Vietnam veteran? You seem to be infected with a fear of Communism that is neither logical nor based in any form of reality considering the arguments that I made.
I am not advocating the equal distribution of all wealth, I don't care if there are still rich people and there are still people who are comparatively poor. I am simply advocating a taxation on those who can afford it in order to address the huge social problems of crime, unemployment, poverty etc.
It is no more theft than to ask for a membership fee to belong to a club. People who don't wish to pay tax can leave the country and live in the Democratic Republic of the Congo or somewhere else that doesn't believe in taxation.
If you are benefiting from being part of one of the world's largest and most successful economies and advanced societies then you should be expected to pay back into both, especially if you were just lucky enough to be born into a family dynasty. If you're an American and being an American has given you the opportunity to be a billionaire then you owe something to America.
I must have had you mistaken when I accused you of being in a trailer or your mom's basement, I guess you're just the rare, uneducated Jew who comes on /pol/.
>>73414476
>Nobody is going to put a gun to your head and force you to collect Social Security
Except you have to pay into it so you have to benefit from it to get your money back.
Oh and another thing. The middle class of America is really poor because of people like you.
>>73414659
>Except you have to pay into it so you have to benefit from it to get your money back.
Paying isn't the same as collecting, dummy. What a stupid argument to make, in fact, that isn't even a counter argument to my point. That's an argument that HELPS me because it proves theft.
>The middle class of America is really poor because of people like you.
Go cry about it at a Bernie rally, you coon.
#DangerousDon
Get it trending. Dangerous to globalist scum. Dangerous to SJW filth. Dangerous to foreign invaders. Dangerous to Crooked Hillary and the anti-US socialist agenda!
>>73414765
You are forced to take payments at 70.
>>73414765
You're so fucking stupid. If you pay into it you have to collect it to not be ripped off moron.
>Go cry about it at a Bernie rally, you coon.
Go cry about socialism .WAHHHHHHh
>>73414638
> I am simply advocating a taxation
>PEOPLE DON'T DESERVE THE MONEY THEY WORKED FOR! GIMME GIMME OR ELSE YUR A KIKE!!!!
You're a communist pseudo-intellectual. There's an extremely high possibility you voted for the first Muslim mayor for London. You're a cuck. Go fuck yourself.
>>73407526
The income tax should be repealed and replaced with a national sales tax and tariffs.
>>73415000
>national sales tax
Extremely regressive and will hit the working class the hardest. Tariffs are ok though.
>>73414984
>I believe people should get what they worked for
>big corporations should be able to steal the poor peoples money whenever they want.
You're a fuck.
>>73408459
Cool with me the only thing I use that's public is roads and I already pay taxes for them every time I get gas
>>73414890
Are you mentally challenged?
I argued that collection of SS won't get you jailed, and non -payment into SS will.
Nobody told Ayn Rand if she didn't collect SS, she would be thrown in jail. Learn how to fucking read.
>>73415000
Tariffs benefit American companies at the expense of the American consumers. (At best, reciprocal tariffs and the weakening of the businesses would reduce the benefits to the businesses too)
>>73415000
>>73415096
>Tarrifs
>Raise prices on goods
>Doesn't hurt the working class
>>73414223
It's certainly difficult to advocate any kind of welfare in the USA due to your very large minority population. The way that I see it though is that an educated black community is still far better than a non-educated one.
Really you have two solutions, execute all your white trash, blacks and Mexicans or attempt to make them functional members of society through actually effecting dem programs.
Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're rich as fuck because you can live your entire life away from those people, but it's not just the poorest members of society who suffer, it's all the middle-class who have to suffer from increased crime rates and sudden plummeting house value when nigs are moved in as well as a multitude of other problems.
>>73415271
Learn to make sense you dumbass.
>>73415309
>tariffs
>raise prices
wut?
>>73407963
Taxation is not theft.
Its merely the cost of ensuring the government does not use violence against you.
Have you even taken an economics course?
The government is providing you a fucking service, and you don't want to pay for it? Of course your going to go to jail if you dont pay for the service that keeps you out of jail.
Taxes are merely the payment for protection from the government. You dont have to pay it if you dont want to. No one is forcing you to pay taxes.
>>73407526
Oy vey, it's like anoda shoah! You can't tax the billionaires more (50% jews)! It's anti-semitic!
>>73415309
>Muh low consumer good prices
>Ignores the costs of losing a job, retraining, and finding a new job.
I'm sure every one is super glad that tshirts are now 10 cents cheaper after having to spend on searching for a job, and retraining.
>>73415540
>Taxation isn't theft because it insures the government won't pull the trigger at the gun it already has at your head
Wow. Are you a product of Common Core? Sure sounds like it.
>>73415540
It's not theft, it's extortion? That's your winning argument?
>>73407526
>You all will pay dearly for this.
Goodbye Lolbertarians, we take the 10% Bernie voters instead of your 2% vote
I'm always amazed that there are still enough retarded Lolbertarians who think that there are still enough white people left who would support their ideologie, after they helped to replace american whites with socialist 3rd world people.
You are part of the open border problem, now btfo
>>73415720
How is it Theft?
Theft would imply that something illegal is going on. Taxes are not theft because taxes are not illegal.
Maybe you should apply some logic to your analysis.
>>73415918
It's not illegal to extort property? Are you retarded?
>>73414984
You've answered none of my personal questions, so I'll answer yours. I'm 24, white, half Irish half English, middle-class, UKIP supporting, employed student.
People who are rich in America are rich BECAUSE it is America, therefore they owe something back to that country. If there had never been any taxation in America do you truly believe that it would be the great country that it is today? You can't build the biggest economy in the world and then turn around and say (for no reason) "DURR, LET'S COMPLETELY REVERSE THE RULES".
Do you just not have any ounce of nationalism in you? Do you truly think that corporations, banks and money are all that matter? This is why I would like you to honestly answer if you are Jewish or not.
>>73415734
Again, stating that taxation is extortion would imply that taxes are illegal.
Extortion is largely defined as an illegal act, while taxation is within the bounds of the law.
Taxation is taxation
Extortion is Extortion.
They are not the same thing.
A key difference being that one is perfectly legal, and the other is defined as being illegal. Therefore Taxation is not extortion.
>>73407526
It never cease to amaze me how people are fucking stupid. Good thing Trump isn't and actually plans on winning not virtue signaling into a loss
>hey republishits i might have lost but at least i sucked your cock. Good thing I got ben shapiro's approval at the last minute even though I lost at least im validated
No one give a fucking shit about tax plan he could literally copy bernie no one will care. He could also flip flop on a fucking daily basis on tax, abortion or health care no one fucking cares.
All that matters is the wall, illegals and his correct views on how europe, that he knows the west is going insane and his foreign policy views. That's it.
>>73407526
>You all will pay dearly for this.
pol is a bunch of NEETs. they won't pay anything.
raising taxes on the rich literally has zero effect on pol
>>73416079
Um you realize the government is the one making the laws, right? No government has ever made an unjust law?
>>73416377
>wall
>matters
No one gives a fuck about it.
>>73416377
>All that matters is the wall, illegals and his correct views on how the the west is going insane and his foreign policy views. That's it.***
>>73407526
Would some of you fags be genuinely pissed if he raised the the taxes on the rich?
Still don't get the butthurt
Are you the same type of people who think mugging freetrade is a good thing for the working class?
>>73407526
At this point I honestly don't believe anything the media says until I hear it from Trump.
>>73409914
>we don't have a messiah complex in the United States
>>73416579
free trade is why we have poor people.
>>73409273
Underrated post. I make about 300k and I'm happy with this. The people I know who make >500k give zero fucks. If you are against it and make less, shut the fuck up because honestly this does not concern you.
doing everything the old republican party hates is a good thing
that includes pandering insincerely to religious voters and business owners
but leave it to some shit tier tabloid to make it sound like trump is suddenly the opposite of what he was before the nomination was secured
>>73415985
I've been seeing you argue taxing the rich, how much do you pull in a year?
>>73416741
This doesn't concern you so STFU. Also there's no way you make 300K because no job pays that well.
>>73416901
>>73416487
>>73416735
>a fucking leaf
>>73416741
This is another thing I never really understood. Why do people care so much about how the rich are taxed? Shouldn't it be up to the rich to vote for whichever party they agree with and that's that.
>tax rich person
>he just moves to a country with less taxes
>your country is poorer now
what now globalist shill
>>73411006
This. My effective tax rate started going down roughly after I crossed through ~120k and has been going down ever since. It got especially good once I could afford a good tax accountant and tax attorney and restructure my companies and the retirement plans I granted to myself.
I've asked before and I'll ask again:
Why is /pol/ such good goys when it comes to protecting the interest of the wealthy?
>>73417144
>ban that from happening
>problem solved
Besides if the rich aren't taxed why do you want the rich in your country?
>>73417206
>literally holding people hostage because they are worth more than you
>Let me explain how the world works. Okay? I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, and income than I do. But I’ll explain how it all works. I don’t come up with it. I come up with the biggest tax cut of any candidate by far of any candidate. Anybody, and I put it in. But that doesn’t mean that’s what we’re going to get. We have to negotiate. The thing I am going to do is make sure the middle-class gets good taxes, tax breaks, because they have been absolutely shunned. The other thing. I’m going to fight very hard for business. For the wealthy, frankly, I think it’s going to go up. And you know what? I think it should go up.
>…
>Let me explain something, I’m putting in a plan, Chuck. I have to negotiate now with Senators, Congressman, lots of others. The fact that I put in a plan. It really is a floor. That’s what it is, whether we like it or not.
He literally just admitted that effective tax rate is gonna go down for everyone except extremely rich, for whom it's gonna rise as he gets rid of corporate tax loopholes and the like.
New things count: 0
>>73417411
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Poor Brazilian defending the rich
>inb4 im muh rich Brazilian banker
Rich in Brazil is poor in America.
>>73417488
Leave troll.
>>73417495
>admitting that the only reason someone would support your politics is jealousy
>>73417114
The people who oppose it are the ones who think they might make it here someday, but still feel poor and have a scarcity mentality, so they vote for lower marginal rates vicariously. When you actually get here, you realize an extra 5% in taxes or whatever has zero effect on your lifestyle now or in the future. Also, typically, getting here requires having a fair number of people working for you in some manner or another, so you come to see yourself as just part of a bigger economic system.
>>73417606
No it's because they don't want their money stolen by the rich.
>>73417555
Care to explain how am I trolling? Because I'm dead serious you shill.
>>73417644
everyone in burgerland imposes it.
>>73417170
>race war nao
> -country- is less white than -another country-
>it was the jews
>its a conspiracy
>we need guns to topple corrupt governments
>taxes are theft
>jews = socialism = communism = atheism
just a bunch of high school kids spewing shit theyve heard from somewhere else, some truely beleive this shit will solve the problems were facing.
when they come here they meet other anons with similar thought and they feed off one another.
I only come here to start shit sometimes
>>73417679
No one want's to get robbed, the point is that taxing the rich won't solve shit you retarded commie.
>>73417823
It will solve poverty.
>>73417863
>6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
>>73417823
Lowering their taxes won't magically solve shit either
Just a piece of a larger deal that needs to be made
>>73418000
I just gave you an answer
>>73408459
>not realizing the United States never taxed for public upkeep well until the 1900s
Taxes are just an excuse to "upkeep" these services
>>73417863
no it wont, itll just end up in someone elses pockets, eg the 407 highway built with canadian tax money then sold and tuned into a toll road.
>The route is operated privately under a 99-year lease agreement with the provincial government. The lease was sold in 1998 for approximately C$3.1 billion to a consortium of Canadian and Spanish investors operating under the name 407 International Inc
only way to end poverty is to change the entire industry model. which aint gunna happen.
>>73417144
This doesn't work in the U.S. Look up the phrase "Covered Expatriate". Also, we don't really want to leave, for the most part. Running businesses from abroad is difficult and inconvenient, as is leaving friends and family behind. Above a certain point, most of your income just gets socked away in securities; there are fairly generous tax write-offs for reinvesting in one's own business so that isn't really affected by higher marginal rates. It is entirely possible to become rich with almost arbitrarily high income tax rates if you do so by building up your own companies instead of being a passive rentier. This is essentially how American business worked in the Eisenhower era.
>>73407526
this isn't news. he's said if for a long time.
>>73418093
Or give the poor money.
>>73413652
Wow it's like we are really debating with mark levin!
>>73407526
>doesn't realize that "rich people" = the liberal elite
Wouldn't you want to defund the people who use their money to fund the institutions that destroy western civilization?
>>73418165
No his original plan was to lower taxes on the rich.
>>73416598
He has stated that the would do this many times now. How is this new to people?
>>73418251
Which would have been really fucking dumb.
>>73418251
I remember him saying he thought they should be raised in the first debate. Months ago.
Trump has been, and always be a liberal. We established that a long time ago. Call him a kike but this is what Ben Shapiro has been warning about since the beginning.
>>73407817
It IS theft if it is going towards shit I don't support.
>three meals a day for death row inmates
>welfare for niggers
>gender studies tuition for cucks
>settling third worlders
>>73418218
why, so they can buy xboxs, cell phones and go to restaurants everyday?
look at hospitals, WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME ISSUE IN CANADA as the states have with health care, a bed costs $20,000 a night, a tetnus booster costs $250 etc etc etc. except, our problem is hidden behind insurance, americans have to deal with their shitty system, canada just ignores the problem hiding it from the citizen, and say "everything is fine"
free money is wasted money.
>>73416051
>>73414638
>nationalism in order to help the state
oh anon, please stop, this is arousing...
You're not wrong senpai, I actually agree with you, but you should not consider
>>73414984
a complete retard
Americans are supposedly patriotic, but their culture much more instills oppertunism above their sense of nationalism, what the American receives is his, his alone, in that sense he's not all that wrong. He worked for his money, and to see his money 'stolen' from him is understandably frustrating. You should realize that he's raised in (hyper-)individualistic and oppertunistic american culture. It's as 'winner-takes-all'-mentality, unlike our, 'social cohesion, homogeneity, social democracy'-culture.
I would agree with you though, and I would increase the amount of nationalism.
>>73418388
>>73418378
He wanted to lower corporate tax to 15%
Trump said long ago that he would raise taxes on the rich, even he agreed that he should be paying more.. How is this news?
>>73407526
except Obongo didn't raise the tax on the rich since they gave him the money. Trump doesn't need anyones money and has no problem. Hillary is just lying.
>>73418510
>why, so they can buy xboxs, cell phones and go to restaurants everyday?
No so they can buy a house and actually start a family and feed their family.
>>73409914
>He wasn't even a good president, or even a decent military general.
fuck off OP you're retarded
>>73418413
>taxing the rich = being a liberal
That's what the cuckservative enemies of western culture and civilization taught you to believe
>>73416901
You don't know anything. And it isn't a job. But I used to work in one that did as well.
>>73418659
What job pays 300K a year. And how do you get the money now?
>>73418547
The corporate tax rate is meaningless given the loopholes that exist. If he could enforce a 15% tax rate that would actually be a huge tax hike.
>>73418810
Loopholes aren't a big deal. If the corporate tax rate is 35% loopholes could make em pay 29%
>>73418805
Finance.
More finance.
>>73416478
The fact you haven't pointed out that theft requires no law to make it wrong and immoral worries me.
>>73418617
buddy, go look at the price of houses, even if we help these people get a house, they wnt be able to keep it, then we get another housing bubble.
what about lost income as well? you give all these people who are currently renting a house of their own, all these people who rent property out go under, investment firms investing in property go under, will just for the banks to inflate, now the poor are still poor just dealing with larger numbers
throwing money at something is just a temporary fix, and the result will be a debt larger than original.
>>73419109
I have a finance degree. It's worthless unless you go to Ivy League.
>>73418961
You still don't know anything. Go look up Google's tax rate.
>>73419147
That's why capitalism is flawed.
>>73419201
I did.
>>73418658
Pretty much
Been voting since 2004 and never voted for a dem president
Taxing the top guys more wouldn't bother me at all
Especially if doing that was the major concession wanted by dems for some major cost cutting bill
>>73419182
I went to MIT. My major was not finance. You still know nothing but you insist otherwise.
>>73418961
>If the corporate tax rate is 35% loopholes could make em pay 29
>this nigger is serious
Try 0%
Why should I work when I can get money for free and no one can do anything to stop me?
Underlying all this and something that hasn't been mentioned is there is NO WAY you can balance the budget with the huge tax cuts the republicans try to give the richest americans.
Trump understands this better than anyone, I am not sure why he didn't say this. The problem with his current tax plan is it blows up the debt by 10+ trillion, even more than obongo.
>>73408974
Shit ain't worthless for the simple fact that those are victims of such physical attacks have the legal book protecting them. We'll take these fucking nig nogs and deal with their unorganized ass. Enjoy living with Ahmed.
>>73419357
>Got into MIT
richfag alert.
>>73419428
Double Irish. Dutch sandwich. Liechtenstein regional office. Etc etc etc.
>>73419428
LOL no they still pay a lot of tax. trump will lower it.
>>73419591
Parents were not. All it takes is really good scores.
>>73419591
I don't think MIT does legacy students and such like all the ivy leagues.
I went there for a conference once, its all just total aspie nerds and everyone 100x smarter than me.
>>73419538
Correct.
>>73413083
>>73412987
I never understood this line of argument. I am forced to pay for a service I don't want, but the moment I claim upon the service I didn't want because I already paid for it I am somehow ok with it? That's bloody asinine.
>>73419538
Thing is nobody can ever collect that debt so it's actually meaningless. What matters is the value of our dollar and our tax code
>>73419727
>>73419710
Well then in that case the degrees that come out of there are worthless
>all these shit websites with no sources posted here recently
why are all of you falling for this
>>73419512
To get more money, to build something interesting, to compete with your peers, etc. If you are inclined to lay around doing nothing, you probably weren't very productive in the first place anyway and would have eventually been replaced by robots.
>>73419873
I know our flag compels us to shitpost, but in STEM and even now social sciences MIT grads are head and shoulders above pretty much everyone else.
At the postgrad level atleast, cant comment on undergrads.
>>73420050
He literally said it in two seperate interviews this morning.
Said the rich will have to pay more, and said he himself has no problem paying more if its put to good use.
>>73419873
Hahaha. You still know nothing.
>>73420164
That's not true. Ivy League gets you on wallstreet. Any other Uni gets you a job in costumer service or a bank-teller. I know because I have a finance degree
>>73411361
compared to the left who think the government should have 100% of the wealth.
>>73420324
Government is controlled by the people tho.
>>73420274
you have a finance degree and you think its a good idea to give money to the poor expecting a positive return?
>>73420642
Yes. And so do all my cousins who also have the same degree as me.
>>73420274
>costumer service
>costumer
>>73420848
Yeah I know it's a shit job but what else are you going to do? The economy is pure trash right now.
>>73420642
It's like you have never read the catchphrase of 4chan, or know keynesians and communist still exist.
>>73421061
All universities teach Keynesianism, Austrianism is the Latin of economics.
>>73411361
I agree. In tech, actually, even many of the billionaires think top-end marginal rates could be higher. But note they never mention cap gains rates.
>>73420642
Hitler was a Keynesian tho.
>>73421121
... yeah, catchphrase of 4chan, he doesn't have shit.
>>73420941
Wait, so you actually do service costumes? What does that even mean?
>>73421334
What do you mean
>>73421349
Well I work at Bestbuy I like help people fix their phones they bring in and help them find stuff.
>all the kids who suck rich people cock ITT
purge the sheeple
>>73420941
It is better if you know how to spell "customer" lmao
>>73409914
>or even a decent military general.
le discredit my opinion in the first line maymay
>>73415096
>Extremely regressive and will hit the working class the hardest. Tariffs are ok though.
not if they don't buy shit they don't need
>>73409682
reminder that you're fucking retarded for thinking people paid that rate
>>73421461
Who is the professor of energy economics? Only thing I need to know.
>>73421805
Describe and provide examples of a specific action, tactic, or strategy than can be attributed to Eisenhower.
>>73421285
>Hitler was a Keynesian tho.
and your point?
he also had totalitarian control of the government to which he controlled everything as the entire country was decimated by the stock market crash and repaying the treaty of Versailles, everyone was willing to work to rebuild the nation, not the bottom >20%.
>>73417488
Man, Trump sounds like an autist. Seriously. I could believe he was diagnosed with Aspergers.
>>73419864
Defaulting would cause rates to spike which would cost the government hundreds of billions in interest payments subsequently. Reneging would break the global financial system and most likely start WWIII. U.S. bonds are essentially sacrosanct. We have never once defaulted. There was a clerical delay once decades ago and that was bad enough; iirc it cost about $12bn from the rate jump.
>>73411706
>Not to mention before 1920 it was almost illegal for anyone who wasn't a WASP to get rich.
citation needed.
>>73409914
He did operation wetback. So, yeah, I'd say it's worth it.
>>73422004
If the Fairtax were a VAT, I believe there would be a viable alternative to the current system. No bloody way it will happen, though.
>>73407526
YOU CAN'T SPELL REICH WITHOUT THE RICH!
#StormTrumper
>Trump wants to limit the freedom of the press
>/pol/ supports this despite liberals supporting this forever
>Trump wants to increase taxes on the rich in a blatant attempt to win over Berniecucks now that he has the nomination
>/pol/ now longer cares about communism because it's for the good of the nation if Trump supports it
You will faggots will support anything he does
