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The cause of the fall of Western Civilization
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1. Destruction of Political Infrastructure:
Advent of republicanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
>Establishment of a secular and democratic republic that became increasingly authoritarian and militaristic


2. Destruction of Social Infrastructure:
emancipation from social tradition
>Radical social change based on liberalism and other Enlightenment principles

3. Political Thesis:
Corporatist politics leading to monopoly and wage enslavement
>Lobbyism , political entities being endorsed by big companies.

4. Social Anti-thesis:
Anarchy, rebellion against the system
>Reactionary politics, Protest, revolution of the masses against the middle class.

5. New social infrastructure
>Egalitarianism, new rules based on the workers and of victimhood.

6. New Political Infrastructure
Mass destruction of western civilization via immigration and population displacement.
>Hordes of immigrants coming in, bomb threats, radical extremism, religious fundamentalism, more war.
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Plz clap
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>>73392181
wait, a thread about politics on /pol/?
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>>73392727
Oh fug.. Should I delete? I forgot that we're supposed to cuckpost.
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>>73392784
Fuck of faggot
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>>73392181

If you wanted to know what happens when a large segment of the population actively despises the civilization that spawned it, you're about to find out.

The main thing that gives me hope is that the self-hating, radical left will eventually self-destruct when it follows its ideals to their logical conclusion (the inherent moral unworthiness of Western civilization and its white, male, Christian inhabitants, which is most of the leaders behind the movement). Hopefully they don't fuck up everything too much before that happens.
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>>73392784
No, you can get away with it this once.

Is this a cycle for all civilizations, or does it just apply to our current iteration?

Is this model linear or cyclical?
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Everything is constantly falling. The only thing that changes is the way they fall.
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>>73393146

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

But of the problem is that people want to apply a 1-to-1 algorithm to try to compare our present societies to the past and it simply doesn't work that way.

You can discern certain patterns though, because people tend to act in certain, fairly predictable ways when subjected to different kinds of pressures and incentives. Many people have noticed that societies and civilizations tend to have a fairly consistent growth cycle, one of birth, childhood, adolescence, adulthood, old age, and finally decrepitude and death, similar to what biological organisms go through.

Nothing new under the sun.
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>>73393106
I'm sorry, but I think it's far past that point.
Historically, there's nothing in between the birth of a political infrastructure and its destruction. It all happens in one swoop. In this case, if immigration don't change the face of Western Europe and all the countries fall and are reborn (given the steps provided), the new political infrastructure will be something completely different, maybe theocratical, maybe liberal again, or maybe even nationalist. I hope for the latter. Fact is, if we should do anything, we should do it NOW. Now is the proper time. It needs to be planned out accordingly. Ironically, the key to a better civilization isn't to promote the western values we believe in, but to promote and hasten the opposite for just a little bit, to speed up the process. ANd when that's done, we become the antithesis of this political nightmare. Then once we establish a dialogue, and we form a new social infrastructure, the political infrastructure will soon follow as a reactionary measure.
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>>73393146
It's almost cyclical.
There is a lot of jaggedness, as if a child drew the circle. Some people stay in the antithesis phase (The anarchists). But, if this particular political infrastructure was destructed, then something else could theoretically replace anarchism as an anti-thesis; hell, fascism might be the anarchy of tomorrow. But this is how it usually goes. It happened in the 60s, and it's happening again in a larger wave; it's like the opposite of the raindrop effect; this raindrop doesn't lose inertia; it gains momentum until its sped out of control.

>>73393801
As said, the circle is jagged, but it is still somewhat of a circle. In a sense, the only thing in history that repeats is the beginning of something, the conflict, the resolution, and the end; the rhyme, in this case, is that movements may be a bit shifted or even replaced entirely. The leftwing's role in this cycle is only temporary; after the destruction, the "new leftwing" might be something completely different, may be theocratic in nature even. But the easier we accept the transition from right to left, the better of an understanding we can have to cause another transition.
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>Establishment of a secular and democratic republic that became increasingly authoritarian and militaristic
Why can't we go religious takeover instead? A Christian militia. 2nd crusades? I don't advocate a violent revolution as a first choice. I think if you really work for change on the first world someone else will be paid to incite violence. In the 3rd they do it for free. Hid your motives. If you want change you can't go with one head. Find one local school board and change its demographics. Get boots in the forces, this one's so easy nigger gangs do it. Stir up a ruckus in a local paper. Get a small scale trump to support you, any business man you know I guess. If you're friends are all idiots find someone that owns a lot of land. Everyone here for more than 2 generations could hold a rural rally with no effort.
There are multiple ways.
Bernie has piss poor "socialist" young adults and underage. Trudeau had that too but he had his father's name. You got a big name buddy? Play that shit.
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>>73393877

The massive silver lining to the refugee crisis that /pol/ doesn't seem to realize is that it happened so quickly that it couldn't be ignored by the native populations of Europe and is helping to spawn a massive right-wing backlash. Many European nations are electing far-right governments that would have been unthinkable five and certainly ten years ago, because the elites got greedy and arrogant.

That's what so deviously clever about using population migration as a political weapon, in that because the changes occur relatively slowly any reaction to them can be characterized as xenophobic or racist, but you can change the demographics of an entire society within a single generation or two as long as you actively suppress any negative information and reactions to the migrant populations amongst the native population.

But instead they tried to do what should have happened in 10-20 years in six months.

> Ironically, the key to a better civilization isn't to promote the western values we believe in, but to promote and hasten the opposite for just a little bit, to speed up the process

What do you mean by that? What's the alternative to present European/Western values other than Islamic values or going back to a pre-Great War nationalism?
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>>73392181
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>>73394719

What does this circle and your theories come from? I'm very interested in reading about them.

> The leftwing's role in this cycle is only temporary; after the destruction, the "new leftwing" might be something completely different, may be theocratic in nature even. But the easier we accept the transition from right to left, the better of an understanding we can have to cause another transition.

I think that's fairly accurate, they've done it before. You seem to think that since this is inevitable that we might as well let the left win, if I understand you correctly.
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>>73395192
Nietzsche's eternal recursion.
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>>73395350
Psychology is a Jewish trick. Fuck off jidf nice proxy. How's the glory hole scene in telaviv
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>>73395468
>psychology
Did you mean philosophy Jin-ro?

Because Nietzche would agree with you.
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>>73396113
psychology is just a kind of delusional paranoia in which you believe an independent entity who knows you more than yourself lives inside your mind
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>>73396113
I don't know half this words fuck off
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>>73396287
its also a rehash of ancient paganism, eastern woowoos, and syncretic religions
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>>73395192
No, not let the left win. Let's say that breaking your arm was inevitable. For whatever reason, the longer you wait, the less calcium your body has, and your arm eventually breaks, but you don't notice it happening, at which point you're going to be calcium deficient, and healing will take a long time if at all.
But if you go backpacking, and you break your arm, then you will have immediate care; the effects wont be as devastating, they'll do an xray and find you have a bone disorder/ calcium deficiency and give you treatment, so you will be big and strong as the days before.

If we gradually let the left worm their way into politics like they already have done, they will destroy our civilization. The only alternative is to cause fear mongering and speed up the process, A little exaggerated hyperbole as the Don says.
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>>73396353
I don't like "fear mongering." I think it's fair to say fear mongering when someone hypes an irrational fear. Islamization, anything LGBT past not being killed or fired on the basis, the state paying for anything that only improves one persons life.
Shit, isis has threatened major sporting events. They've targeted concerts. Regardless of being an israelI puppet, immigrants are murderers. Not "fear mongering," I shouldn't be fucking scared about watching my favourite team play football but now that the fucking caliphate of London is taking place I don't know what to expect
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>>73396901
If death is a legitimate fear, then just because death is miles away, doesn't mean we shouldn't fear it less. I don't want to fear monger; but it doesn't have to be that way; it can be realism as well; realism that "there's a one in a millionth of a chance that this concert is going to be islamified"; still enough to scare someone, but it doesn't have to. Just a fact, we can take em or leave em. But if we don't put the facts out there, then the west's destruction is final. They serve as constant reminders. "Hey, there's islamification going on right now"; liberals like the idea, conservatives don't; but if it's not said, then conservatives won't bother.
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>>73394749

>he's a DOOS VOLT /pol/ christian

You are aware that your own religion hates your type, right?
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>>73395468
It really depends on the psychologist. The reason psychology is a joke now is because it got packed with Jews as soon as, what basically comes down to guesswork, was treat as bonafide fact. Younger psychologists claim that thinks like transgenderism aren't mental illnesses and trigger warnings should be on everything, whereas older psychologists (who are actually doing their job and aren't pushing an agenda) claim the exact opposite, the only reason they don't get listened to is because they're now the majority and, as we, know the majority are always "right". Just look at that meeting with that dumb millennial who said there should be trigger warnings and safe spaces everywhere and the psychologist sat next to her basically tells her she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about and trigger warnings do more harm than good. Jews dominating these "sciences" reminds me of how the IRA became as powerful as they did

>IRA members couldn't go to a run of the mill hospital
>IRA members had no chance of getting a fair trial
>IRA members need to use middle men for everything they do
>Solution?
>The IRA start sending their own recruits to university to study law, medicine, chemistry and whatever else
>Suddenly the IRA go from terrorists to good cat'lick boys who dindu nuffin and were just oppressed freedom fighting so they were
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>>73397794
Not really. I just hate faggots, usury, sandnogs, leftists, etc.
>>73397608
^ they'll be the first to fall
>>73398816
Oy vey
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>>73392181
This turned into a good thread, OP.
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