/pol/acks, I'm feeling down about Trump's chances in a general. If Hillary wins her Supreme Court picks will ruin this country forever. Give me a reason to believe trump has a chance. Please.
>>73205546
NC is red this year.
He doesn't
>>73205546
He can only win with your support. If people continue to be defeatist we're fucked anyway.
>>73205546
Trump in a landslide.
Trump won't win. Just accept this now, rather than later.
>>73205546
There's literally a not-tiny chance that Trump could wind up with 0 (ZERO) electoral votes.
>>73205546
>MI, NH, AND WI not blue.
Why live?
>>73205546
Another I want to know is why do people keep telling me that Trump could beat Hillary, but he could not beat Bernie? They say it's a rock paper scissors effect- Trump beats Hillary, Hillary beats Bernie, Bernie beats Trump.
>>73205546
MI, WI AND NH will go blue conservacuck
>>73205589
Sauce? Florida is going blue.
>>73205589
besides nc what other states are likely to flip to trump
>>73206013
Romney won it last year and the most dangerous block to Trump (blacks) will have lower turnout because Obama isn't running. Florida is up in in the air as usual.
>>73206041
Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia are winnable.
>>73205960
Only reason Shillary beats Bernie is because it's rigged. In a fair election, Bernie would beat both of them and Trump would beat Shillary.
>>73206173
last election*
>>73206173
Ohio went to Obama. No way trump wins with all the Mormons and then some.
>>73206174
>Only reason Shillary beats Bernie is because it's rigged.
Explain, please.
>>73206364
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/politico-exposes-clinton-campaign-money-laundering-scheme/
>>73206326
What? Ohio doesn't have a significant mormon population. Trump has the blue collar advantage. That's the best way for him to win.
I wish Trumpards would start living in the reality.
Northern Virginia is heavily Democrat
Las Vegas has allot of spics
Last time NH went red was 2000
PA,Michigan,Wisconsin haven't been red since 1988
Trump can't win Maine's second congressional district
You are delusional to think Trump could flip NY or NJ.
How is he going to get two more to get to 270? There is no way.
EXPLAIN IT?
AND NO, HE ISN'T FLIPPING PA. GET OVER IT
NEVER underestimate the Donald!
The son of a bitch said Cruz's Dad killed Kennedy! And still won nomination!
AWOOO! MAY HIS REIN LAST A THOUSAND YEARS!
>>73206542
Romney was 5 points away from winning PA and VA. That's a margin that can be flipped.
>>73206542
you can have nevada and new hampshire
>>73205642
>>73205755
>>73205789
>>73205960
>>73206542
fuckoff cucked shills
trump in a landslide
Today, I will remind them.
>Top Keks from butthurt democrats
>Democrats in power last 8 years
>Democrat voter turnout extremely low
>Democrat base disgruntled
>Hillary is swarmed with real world controversy
>Hillary has a huge career of being incompetent
>The Teflon Don won't win.
How are people this backwards? Are Autist allowed on the internet?
>>73206824
>coming from a danish cuck
please fucker, i think we know what is happening. shillary 2016
nothing we can do.
>>73206542
Its fairly easy. You know how Trump demonized, and then humiliated Jeb every chance he got? In every interview, speech, and sound bite?
Wait until he does it to Hillary. Half the country is going to hate Trump no matter what. The other half will be referring to her as Crooked Hillary in casual conversation at work, school, etc
Basically, it will be a landslide once the name calling begins and the gloves come off.
>>73205546
I must confess I haven't paid super close attention in the past. Arizona and Texas are fairly strongly Republican. Why is NM blue?
>>73206950
New Mexicans.
>>73206950
Native Americans. New Mexico is solid blue.
>>73206950
desert hippies
>>73206950
NM is blue for a few reasons, but mostly because it has a very high government worker population (unionized) and an extremely high Hispanic population
Basically NM has no white middle class. Everyone is either white and highly paid, or brown and dirt poor
>>73205546
>f Hillary wins her Supreme Court picks will ruin this country forever.
>Not knowing that Supreme Court cases can reverse rules later
>Being this stupid and this much of a panicky bitch
>>73207157
It takes a long time for the Supreme court to reverse decisions.
>>73206173
Florida has been blue for two elections, anon
>>73206748
>thinking Trump will win OH and FL
>>73206912
>i think we know what is happening. shillary 2016
fuck off defeatist kike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Virginia,_2012
Popular vote
obama 1,971,820
romney 1,822,522
shillary isn't getting obama numbers
king trump is getting more votes than mitt
virginia is red
>>73207223
>It takes a long time for the Supreme court to reverse decisions.
>a long time
Still not "forever."
>>73206879
Shills are allowed to use the internet sadly.
>>73207005
>>73207011
>>73207055
>>73207103
Thx m8s. It's a state I haven't been to yet. Arizona is beautiful though, the part I saw.
Here's a map.
>>73207309
It's still a swing state, highly dependent on candidates. Do I think Trump will win FL? No. Ohio, though, is very much in play.
>>73207375
>this delusion
Trumpcucks are pathetic
look how close florida was
>>73207309
Romney literally lost by 0.9%. A little more white vote and he would have won.
>>73207423
Right but that does major damage to the country in the mean time and the possibility of reversing a disastrous decision is very low.
>>73206326
Ohio doesn't have Mormons retard. It's a swing state. One with a very popular republican governor. If Kasich endorses Trump, He'll win there. And Kasich will endorse Trump. He's a party bitch.
>>73207419
200k felons allowed to vote.
America will turn into sweden if hillary wins, believe me you don't want that.
ohio's gonna be the most difficult
>>73207483
>tfw WA never red
Mt. Rainier eruption when?
>>73207680
>thinks the niggers are gonna show at all this year
>>73207309
it went red in 2004 fuck off
>>73205546
Your best case scenario.
>inb4 shill cuck etc
Trump is going to get raped
>>73207157
Look at SCOTUS cases that over turned other cases... It takes DECADES for most. Well over 100 years in others.
Cruz was right. We arent talking about a few years. Losing the SCOTUS means losing the court for multiple generations. Maybe your great great grandchildren will know a free America again... your grand kids certainly wont
>>73207839
>inb4 shill cuck etc
cuck shill florida will be red.
>>73207969
And Trump would STILL lose.
>>73208027
Red Florida and Ohio wins on that map. Those are both possible.
nevada might be difficult
Do you think bernie will endorse Hilary?
This election depends upon him I think.
nh seems like a state that could go red for trump
>>73208418
Trump will 100% win Nevada. He's got a gigantic glowing "TRUMP" on top of a golden building in Vegas.
>>73208418
Nevada is weird. Republicans won big in the 2014 midterm.
this might be best bet is clinton wins nevada, colorado, iowa, wisconsin, pa
and trump wins ohio, virginia, north carolina, florida, new hampshire
>>73205546
OH and FL are Trump's to lose at this point. PA has a lot of blue collar anger but I don't know if it's going to be enough if Trump keeps up this clownish weirdo shit and shooting off at the mouth about reducing debt with partial payments.
>>73208776
That's the problem. Trump can't win Virginia. There is nowhere else for him to make up those votes.
so trump p much HAS to win ohio and florida
then either nh, nevada, or colorado
>>73208931
Nevada + Colorado
>>73209044
He can't win Nevada. Maybe Iowa. Also, it isn't likely he will win NH.
alternative if trump loses virginia
>>73209158
Nevada is possible to win. I don't know about Iowa or NH at this point.
This is honestly the only way Trump wins (in my opinion)
> Nevada
Too many Mexicans and Hillary is certainly going to pander the fuck out of them.
> Colorado
A lot of Mexicans too and if you're not a democrat there, you're certainly a lolbertarian.
> Iowa
Mostly white but you're either a Bernbot, a libertarian, or a rural Cruz conservative. Trump does well with urban Republicans.
> Wisconsin
Same as Iowa really, but since Walker is not doing well with approval ratings, this would hurt republicans in general.
> New Hampshire
New England area and since they voted for Obama both times, they'd likely vote for Hillary.
>>73209423
not a bad idea
>>73207680
How are republicans getting these high numbers?
this doesn't look too good for pa chances though
Can we all agree this election depends on Florida?
>>73209997
No. Even if Trump wins Florida he still loses the election. He can't win Virginia,Nevada,NH, and it isn't likely he can win the rustbelt. He is in trouble.
>>73209997
It always comes down to Florida and Ohio. I think Trump's strength is that he puts a lot more states in play than Romney or McCain did. Sure there will probably be some Hispanic backlash, but at the same time Trump is almost certainly going to get more of the white vote. A lot of people are upset about immigration and he's capitalizing on that.
Trump will be fucked come november
>>73210117
Republicans gained seats in Nevada's last election.
if trump can get these moderate rubio-supporting republicans to vote for him i think he has virginia
>>73208580
Of course he will, he's a gutless faggot who won't run independent
>>73205546
>>73210337
I would phone bank for Bernie and donate my life savings if he would run as an independent.
>>73207331
>thinking he won't
I live in Ohio. People here are mad as fuck that they have been told their lives will be better by establishment cucks for decades, only to see the opposite. NAFTA ruined Ohio's manufacturing economy, we have Mexican drug gang executions going on here (Google Pike County murders), and amazing growth drug abuse.
Plus there is no magic negro running so black turnout will frankly never be as high.
FL is a different matter. I think the Cuba issue will be important for Trump as well as the fact that poor blacks and poor Hispanics from FL are the ones dying in the wars HillyShilly loves to start.
Trump needs to stop saying goofy shit and start appealing to people's souls--letting them work out the inherent tension between the Soma Cliton is offering and the poison she will actually bring.
>>73210433
I think if Kasick would endorse and promote trump big time in Ohio trump would win.
>>73209398
I'm from Nevada and I don't think he can win. Too many ignorant spics here that think they'll be deported even though their legal.
Most white people I know support him because their tired of being overran with beans, but Mexicans are borderline retarded and don't realize that less competition for their toilet scrubbing job means that they might actually get an extra nickle an hour and they won't have to use their tongues anymore.
Bernie holds the keys to this election.
If he win the nomination he wins the election.
If he loses the nomination but becomes Hillary's VP the Democrats win
If he loses the nomination but endorses Hillary, it's a 50/50 race between her and Trump.
If he loses the nomination and says anything less than 110% glowing support for Hillary, it's guaranteed Trump.
Everyone always seems to forget the large left leaning independent base that voted for Bernie but wouldn't for Hillary. Unlike in previous primaries where you could count on most of the loser's base to come over, here a large portion will either sit out or vote red.
>>73210725
Kasick is a faggot and would never do that.
i have a feel nh sanders supporters are more likely/just as likely to go trump than clinton
what do yall guys think about trump's odds of winning nh
>>73205546
Just think of it this way. If we lose this, that's it. We'll never get it back. We'll never change the browning out of America without massive violence and ethnic cleansing.
This is our best and last shot at turning everything around. We fail here, you can kiss America goodbye.
>>73209423
As an Iowan I approve of your description of Iowa.
>>73205546
I shillary for artillery now.
its quite known that trump supporters prefer a battle with bern later on. Most trump supporters prefer voters to shift from hillary to bernie.
This is probably because women are less likely to vote for bern than for trump.
looking at these stats is also making me think trump needs to pick kasich as his vp
it'll make the moderate rubio supporters in virginia more likely to vote him, help him secure ohio, and maybe help in new hampshire too
doesn't seem like he has much control over nevada or florida
>>73211111
Fucking check'd
>>73210117
lmao
>>73209997
And Ohio
>>73210239
>GA
bait
>>73210373
>NH, FL, and OH
>No VA
C'mon now, if he got those three he would definitely get VA
inb4 "muh NOVA"
>>73211094
God fucking dammit.
So fucking close but so far away.
Fuck this gay earth.
>>73205546
the media said he was going to lose to each of the 16 people he already defeated.
why listen to them now?
>>73211321
Kasick is way to soft on illegal immigration and the sick glutton would probably assassinate trump if he got into office.
>>73211111
>>73211580
It's different now.
Back then polls suggested trump would win and they hoped he would implode and fall in popularity.
This time around polls are saying Hilary will win and we are hoping she will implode fuck up and drop.
i still have doubts that mexicans would vote for a woman. it's not in their dna
>>73210996
You're forgetting that Kasich does what the party tells him. He might end up as the VP. Trump said he wanted him as VP. The general public likes Kasich. Kasich gets a key state for Trump. The party nominates the VP candidate. It makes too much sense.
Perhaps getting a Democrat as VP will help trump?
>>73212349
Trump/Bernie ticket...
Dear god...
>>73212349
Webb
>>73212136
Trump picking Kasich goes against his whole campaign strategy of sticking it to the establishment.
>>73212494
Guarantees that some retard tries to kill him.
Just be happy it's not Trump v Sanders or you'd basically get BTFO no question. Good thing it's a competition of who is hated the most/least.
>>73212349
duh
>>73206173
Dont be so sure on that. He beat rubio easy and it was his home state.
>>73206542
North Virginia isn't all of Virginia you retarded cuck. The state is far more red this year.
>>73212769
Honestly I think Trump/Kasich is one of the few ways to beat Hillary.
Kasich has the best numbers against Hillary, and he basically guarantees Ohio, freeing up precious time for Trump to get to work on the Rust Belt and other swing states.
>>73213449
>>73206542
Also being from NOVA myself, i can say that a lot of people in Loudoun are leaning towards Trump.
Actually look at the Governor of Colorado, Hickenlooper. Badass.
>>73205546
Trump is going to get BTFO unless there is a serious terrorist attack in the States or Europe between now and November
every single black and hispanic is going to vote for shillary
>>73213997
Blacks and Hispanics love trumps swagger or so I've heard.
>>73213997
>Trump is going to get BTFO unless there is a serious terrorist attack in the States or Europe between now and November
hillary is already doomed. that would just mean she gets extra BTFO
>every single black and hispanic is going to vote for shillary
says nobody that isnt a delusional SJW. Trump is doing better with blacks than any republican in the past 40 years.
hes going to win, get over it.
>>73215442
i'm for trump, i voted for him in the indiana primary
but the demographics are just a mess. look how badly obama beat romney...it was all the blacks and hispanics...and now it's 4 years later so there are even more hispanics and less white people.
it's going to be 2012 all over again
LBJ saw this happening and new the dems had to pander hard to the swarthy masses
>>73205546
>NY
>blue
it is not 2015 anymore
>>73215999
Kerry, a Vietnam war hero was made to look a coward by false swift boat ads. Hillary can't get past a socialist who won't even mention Benghazi. TRUMP destroyed the establishment, who had the greatest fund raising network in Christendom.
All TRUMP has to do is run against free trade. That's it. If the democrats use a globalist to push free trade, they are done.
If TRUMP names a female as a VP, the dems can't play the cunt card.
>>73206841
>hispanic turnout staying the same
>college-educated whites becoming more republican
>>73215999
> look how badly obama beat romney
ROMNEY<<< the neocon cuck? this isnt the same election m8. look at how much the voting map changed throughout americas history. its ridiculous to think it wont happen again. especially if its just a few states.
>.it was all the blacks and hispanics...and now it's 4 years later so there are even more hispanics and less white people.
insert feels.jpg
dude like i just said he's doing better than romney and every other republican in decades. stop worrying so much.
>>73216441
this. people refuse to think the map can change just because it didnt change much the last election.
>>73207419
fuck off, he isn't winning virginia
you think people who base their livelihoods on the government will vote for trump?
>>73207483
Iowafag here, he isn't winning the state.
>>73208418
>>73209398
trump won't win nevada fuck off
t. nevadan in las vegas
>>73208680
fuck you
>>73216666
>fuck off, he isn't winning virginia
yes he is. virginia has flipped completely this election. hillary has a better chance in NC than VA
>>73216825
>virginia has flipped completely this election. hillary has a better chance in NC than VA
yeah i'm sure they'll go red after their republican governor got arrested
despite the republican massacre in 2014, they elected a democrat governor
they have a democrat governor and both of their senators are democrat
no.
The real question is, is a republican presidential win even going to be possible in another 8 years?
Trump might not have a great chance of winning, but it kind of seems like this is the last shot for the Republican Party as it stands today anyway.
>>73211111
That's because I'm Iowan myself.
>>73216786
>mfw sandoval endorsed trump yesterday
>>73205960
Demographics. The people who are most drawn to bernie are white people who are disenfranchised with the system. Sure, there's tons of SJW aids skrillexes out there supporting him, but there's plenty of blue collar white people who simply don't know any better about his economic policies.
These are the people that could potentially turn to trump, but if he were up against bernie, they'd be split between them, while bernie would still have all the minority mudskin votes simply due to being the liberal candidate.
That and they run on similar platforms against free trade and government corruption and general anti-establishment stuff.
>>73217307
>he thinks that automatically now means Trump wins Nevada despite all the women and hispanics who hate him
no
>>73216994
kek keep trying bernout that doesnt change the shift that just happened in the last 6 months.
and there's more to come in the next 6 months.
he's going to win VA easy. like i said NC has a better change of going blue this election.
>>73216563
She'd never do it but Condi Rice would be the best VP pic of all time.
>>73217498
>kek keep trying bernout that doesnt change the shift that just happened in the last 6 months.
>implying i support bernie
see the problem with trumpcucks is they hate facing reality
VA = for Hillary
Hillary is going to Jail.
Im placing all of my cards on the debates.
This year's debates will probably be the highest rated in American history. People around the world will be watching them like a hawk.
Trump has a golden opportunity to show the entire planet how twisted the left has become, and how crooked Hillary really is. The way I see it, if he managed to do irreparable damage to other republicans like Cruz and Jeb, just imagine what he can do to Hillary.
He cant blow off this chance.
>>73213997
>Trump is going to get BTFO unless there is a serious terrorist attack in the States or Europe between now and November
on it.
>>73217307
There are reports that Hispanics are signing up in greater numbers than in 2012. Face it, Nevada has already been lost
>>73217721
THANK YOU GREATEST ALLY
>>73217682
Confirmed for not watching any of the debates. Trump only survived earlier debates because he was debating in a crowd and could get away with his stunning lack of policy knowledge. He refused to debate with Cruz because he knew he'd get BTFO one-on-one. Put him up against the biggest policy wonk in the race with no audience and he'll fall to pieces
>>73209790
People who aren't Democrats really really hate Democrats.
>>73217763
Clark County is crooked as fuck. He'll lose NV because the SEIU will bus beaners from work to the polls to vote for Clinton. They probably give them the names of dead people to use on the way there.
Clark County politics are a half a step above Chicago. I wish someone would nuke it.
>>73217721
doing G-d's work
>>73218064
Big city machine politics are truly frightening
>>73217721
greatest ally!
>>73206173
>blacks
>Low turnout
Dat denial
Blacks love hill dawg. Plus, Trump is a threat to dem programs
>>73218502
Are you kidding? There's no nigger to vote for so of course black turnout will be low (compared to '08 at least)
>>73217999
He didn't debate with Cruz because it would be stupid and disadvantageous. Trump is very intelligent and can adapt to the situation.
>biggest policy wonk
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to mean. Clinton has a bunch of failed, unpopular policies so it'd be easy.
>>73218932
>He didn't debate with Cruz because it would be stupid and disadvantageous
Precisely. Because Cruz actually knows what he's talking about. Trump has big ideas but little clue about a ton of other things presidents have to worry about (take his idea of a partial default of US debt - holy fucking shit). If he tried to bluff his way out of answer, Hillary would immediately pounce
>>73219364
Another republican debate would at best have kept his support the same. That's why he didn't do it. Clinton is a completely different story.
>muh lack of policy knowledge
This doesn't matter.
