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>Currently a net loss of councillors
>Lost control of Dudley Council
>Now third in Scotland behind the Conservatives (no, really)
>Lost vote share to UKIP IN WAYULS
It's JUST for Jezza and Labour!
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First for Sadiq khan
>Labour behind Tories in Scotland
Who could have guessed?
RESULTS IN
How did UKIP do?
>>73174752
The fire rises
>>73174713
>UKIP +12.5%
>Labour -7.6%
MUH DICK IS SO HARD!!!
>>73174752
Gains in Wales and English councils.
Scotcucks remain cucked
>Green doing better than UKIP for London mayor
FUCKING HELL WHY??
Actually I guess its not that hard to figure out. City of foreigners doesn't like a part that wants to restrict immigration. But how the hell did the green meme do better?
nth for Rt Honourable based Osborne
>>73174957
>based Osborne
I can't wait to see the next leadership election of the Conservatives, either Osborne's going to be publicly humiliated or the Conservative Party is going to fuck itself over.
>>73174561
> They are people that cannot use any of the resources available to someone in 21st century Britain to better themselves.
Because usually they simply cannot afford to.
Or the local councils resources are horrific at best of times, so they simply cannot find the resources to better themselves.
Not to mention a lot of people grow up without even knowing WHERE there local governments offices are, because of shitty parents not informing them of hugely important things like this.
Fuck, I had a friend who went through HELL with the DWP because he had bad ACNE.
He regularly looked for jobs for over a year and a half and regularly got sanctioned because of his looks.
He also never got a lot of said jobs because of said acne.
He was already on medication to try get rid of it, but it wasn't helping much.
He moved to another town about a year ago. Got a job with help of that council pretty much instantly.
A store job at that. Very public-facing.
Inequality between councils is a pretty huge issue across the whole country.
It is something we really badly need to work on.
Some people even go to entirely different job centres because they get victimized in their own one because someone just doesn't like the look of them.
The job center needs to die. It is rotten at the core.
The overhead costs are through the fucking roof for something that barely helps people get work.
People go on about disability abuse, most of it exists in the Job Centre.
>>73174752
No progress in Scotland which is disappointing but not unexpected
Small gains in England with vote share gouged from Labour
Big gains in Wales, UKIP enter the Senedd for the first time with 7 representatives (LAB 29, PC 12, CON 11, UKIP 7, LD 1)
>>73174545
So what will this mean for brexit? Are voters showing early signs of wanting eu-friendly parties to fuck off? Please tell me your exit polls take voter intent information down.
>>73175077
i think he should be considered for PM desu senpai
>>73175103
>exit polls
>local elections
kek
>>73174800
Any lefty tears captures, lads?
>>73175106
He has a terrible record as Chancellor, he has a terrible public image, he's a totally insignificant orator and public speaker, he hasn't done well in the Commons at all and he'd be seen as a shoe-in successor to Cameron without proper process and debate taking place in the party (ie the right would hate him).
He'd be a fucking terrible party leader.
Who /ruth/ here?
>>73175289
who?
>>73175162
How do you expect your political parties to improve if you don't understand why a voter cast their ballot? To be honest I don't remember watching bong news discuss exit polling data for your general election either, but maybe I just missed it.
>>73174919
guy in the centre is my candidate. he got about 3,300 votes last year. green candidate got 1,300 votes, kek.
the greens are a liberal hug box. more of them about than ukip voters in the whole of london i would think.
>>73175089
Well if we're going for reposts.
>>73174561
>You would not say that if you were an estate agent. I speak to these people every single day. I would have thought browsing /pol/ would have made you aware that there is always some truth to a stereotype.
Some truth =/= everyone.
And again, while I won't defend their actions, it's very hard for the average dumbfuck to get out of the benefit-cycle. The rare smart one might do it on sheer talent and the lucky one will get a job but most are fucked and stuck in a repeating pattern that breeds criminality and 'fuck it' as a mentality.
Attempting to get a job will also cost you time and money as you'll live on a shitty run-down estate miles from any possibility of employment.
And even if they do pull themselves up there are only so many jobs available in a 'service economy' because it's mostly just moving funds around internally. With high competition for jobs you're going to pick the academically qualified kid whose parents have pushed him to bulk out his CV over the poor fuck no matter how hard he tries
And in all of this yes, there is that minority that is pure scum and likes it that way. That doesn't mean everyone chose a life of poverty or near-poverty.
Oh and finally there is plenty proof out there that the bedroom tax costs more money in terms of forcing people into more expensive smaller houses (often privately rented) and that most people can't even find another fucking property.
You can say all you like that 'landlords are allowed to discriminate against those on benefits' but to then complain they won't move houses is bullshit.
>>73175122
>>73175122
Well, is there?
>>73175089
Yeah and the fact is with these useless cunts who work at the Jobcentre, they're getting paid. They're taking home taxpayers money to act like pricks. We should sack them all.
>>73175289
Would be good tactically, but what about Boz?
>>73175333
>exit polling data
Exit polls are just to get a sneak peak at how people voted, anon.
Regular polls are for anything else.
>>73175387
Aren't they winning tho?
>>73175077
>I can't wait to see the next leadership election of the Conservatives, either Osborne's going to be publicly humiliated or the Conservative Party is going to fuck itself over.
He already got fucked over with the panama papers anon. Osborne would be a poor choice for leader anyway.
>>73175418
peek* fugg
>>73175333
>I don't remember watching bong news discuss exit polling data for your general election either
There was a shitstorm over it, twitter lefties melted down over the labour drubbing.
Actual polling is used for vote reasoning and such
>>73175103
no exit polls for regional elections mate, turnout is too low and no one cares enough for it to be worth it
UKIP gains and Conservatives holding strong bodes well for brexit but we're still a month out
Barring any major fuckery between now and June 23rd it'll be decided by turnout. Because of the way the in and out camps are distributed across demographics (LEAVE are old people, men and white people whereas REMAIN are students and single mothers) the lower the turnout the more likely we are to get a LEAVE vote.
osborne blatantly has aspergers.
I voted UKIP and I voted to abolish the Senedd.
>>73175439
Labour got BTFO in Scotland, lost 7% of votes in Wales and is LOSING council seats whilst in opposition (this hasn't happened since the 80s when Labour were shit and the tories were getting 150 seat majorities with ease under thatcher)
>>73175439
Labour? lol fuck no.
They should have been making gains in local elections as the opposition to a party that has effectively been in government for the last 6 years. They actually lost some instead.
>>73175396
You know there have been silly ideas like 'no benefits if you don't sit in the job centre all day waiting for work' right?
The job centres exist to keep up the pretence of their possibly being work for these people. Also anyone trying to remove them will be accused of encouraging the lazy poor not to try.
Much easier just to keep them around and waste taxpayer money instead of facing up to the truth.
>>73175535
no he doesn't.
>>73175418
In the United States they take polls along with 'who did you vote for' at the same time as asking things like how important you think the economy is vs. Foreign policy. It helps a lot to know what the people who are actually assed to go vote think than a more random sample of people who won't be a garuntee lock of voting at some later date. Turnout I'd usually pretty low in local and off elections isn't it? That's why I was curious to know if anyone was asking voters now what their intent was in late June.
Wings Over Scotland digging into the Greens for killing independence.
>The first thing to note is that independence is now categorically and unequivocally off the table for at least half a decade.
>The failure of the SNP to secure a Holyrood majority last night (for the want of less than 500 votes) combined with the Greens’ weasel-worded opposition to a second referendum – and make no mistake, opposition is what it is – will ensure that even if the rUK votes to leave the EU and Scotland votes overwhelmingly to stay in, there will be no indyref before the next Holyrood election in 2021.
>The scenario warned of by this site, Scot Goes Pop! and Derek Bateman – while others sneered and tossed around terms like “SNP apologist” – came true. A perfect storm of Tories capitalising on Labour’s collapse by playing the Loyalist card, Unionist tactical voting, reckless self-interest from the Greens and naive stupidity on the list saw D’Hondt take its revenge on the SNP for breaking it in 2011.
Kek. (http://wingsoverscotland.com/dont-say-we-didnt-tell-you/)
>>73175535
Nah, that would make him good with numbers.
>>73175524
This. Was discussing this last night, the undecided voters who'd swing it to stay just wont turn out to swing it.
>>73175289
No.
But am reluctantly /the-tory-candidate-I-voted-for/.
>>73175439
They came 3rd behind the Tories (technically a MASSIVE paradigm shift, given that lefists constantly stick their fingers in their ears and scream "Scotland is communist LALALALA!" all the time), that isn't winning.
>>73175524
>Barring any major fuckery between now and June 23rd it'll be decided by turnout.
Is anyone else hoping at this point that there'll be another terrorist attack somewhere or that the news will be inundated with migrant shit?
The news have been suspiciously quiet about the migrant crisis for a while now, I really hope they're not keeping everything quiet until after the referendum.
The funniest part is a bunch of Labour cucks signed a petition calling for a general election this year after Dave's offshoring was revealed.
Now ignoring how fucking stupid that is It would have been great to see it happen just to see them get even more blown the fuck out than last year.
>>73175569
Thank god!
>>73175602
Ok so that mudslime cunt won't be mayor because it literally made me sick thinking about it
>>73175699
Nice dubs!
Good to hear lad!
M.E.G.A
>>73175767
No, they are winning in Londonabad
>>73175767
>Ok so that mudslime cunt won't be mayor because it literally made me sick thinking about it
No he probably will, but that's their ONLY saving grace this time round. Mayor of London is a meme position as well.
>>73175646
Honestly I'm pleased by this.
The SNP-Green argument means the Greens won't have influence in HR (thank fucking god).
The lack of an SNP majority means we'll likely see SNP minority and the cons on an issue-by-issue basis keeping them down here in the real world.
It also means that people will stop voting green in 2021 but by then the cons will hopefully have made a good enough impression we'll get another SNP minority.
>>73175637
Nah, turnout is shite for local stuff and not brilliant for general either unless it's been heavily politicised.
I don't remember my polling station ever having exit poll people there on generals, either, I think it's a thing that the larger areas do.
Dugdale damage controlling?
How do Labour control such a high amount of council seats but get fucked when it comes to MP's?
Someone please explain, pls
>>73175803
>>73175815
Well that's some what comforting.
Why is the mayor of London a meme position?
>>73176111
First pass the piss.
>>73176193
Yeah but both systems are FPTP?
>>73176111
Most of the seats up for grabs yesterday were in Labour areas in the north m8.
If most south west councils voted there would be 1000+ more tories/lib dems
>>73174545
this is awesome, i wouldn't have thought ukip would gain so much in wales, we're usually so cucked
>>73176183
The main functions are:[7][8]
Strategic planning, including housing, waste management, the environment and production of the London Plan
Refuse or permit planning permission on strategic grounds
Transport policy, delivered by functional body Transport for London
Fire and emergency planning, delivered by functional body London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority
Policing and crime policy, delivered by functional body Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (before 2012 by functional body Metropolitan Police Authority)
Economic development, delivered directly by the Greater London Authority through subsidiary company GLA Land and Property (before 2012 by functional body London Development Agency)
Power to create development corporations, such as the London Legacy Development Corporation
Who will replace Shaun Wright
London as it stands:
> Labour - Sadiq Khan - 44.0%
> Conservative - Zac Goldsmith - 35.0%
> Green - 6.0%
> Lib Dem - 4.0%
> UKIP - 4.0%
> Women - 2.0%
> Respect - 1.0%
> Brit - 1.0%
> Cannabis - 1.0%
> BNP - 1.0%
> Ind - 1.0%
Still with 20% of the vote to count and the more conservative places lagging.
Zac should get UKIP, Brit, and BNP votes second votes so throw on 6% to him there.
Lib Dems and Greens will be split. They both endorsed Zac as their second vote early on but later back out. However both demographics are typically white, middle class, and care about the environment which makes Zac their natural candidate.
Who /norniron/ here? Voted for no local parties
>>73176111
Fraud, low turnout, paki politics, 'this is how my father voted' and suchlike.
And a bit more fraud. Sometimes they even find 140 fucking votes just lying around.
>>73176183
>Why is the mayor of London a meme position?
Why is the President somewhat of a meme position (internally that is, not foreign policy)?
On paper the Mayor has little power. In practice he has even less without support.
>>73176322
Welsh reddit is butthurt and calling for heads to roll
>>73175753
best case scenario some ahmeds come across on the tunnel from Molenbeek, try to storm Buckingham Palace and get rekt by Phil, Charles, Will and Harry using some 19th century hunting rifles and a sharp flagpole with a union flag on it
>>73176405
>Respect - 1.0%
At least George got BTFO.
>>73176489
Scottish Reddit has gone conspiracy theory and is blaming the Tory success on English ex-pats.
>>73176322
Wales is probably quite anti-EU and growing anti-Labour now that so many jobs have been lost and de-industrialisation has been taking place.
I know a few friends in Wales who hate Labour now, especially given Blair. Labour are fucked in Wales.
They have the history of turning away from socialism under Blair and going to the centre-right, there's a small but steady and probably growing nationalist sentiment to siphon votes and they've got their stance on the EU to struggle with as so much of the south is fucked over and unemployment and all social issues that come with it manifest themselves.
>snp intending to form a minority government
Vote of no confidence by a con-labour coalition when?
>tfw London will be the first European city to have a Muslim mayor
We are going to get bantered to death lads, not even Sweden has a Muslim mayor.
>>73176602
That's who the Welsh ledditors are blaming for ukip
>>73176673
It would fail without LD and Green.
I believe there are also special rules in the Scottish parliament instead of simple majority but I may have made that up.
>>73176602
>English ex-pats
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'D MOVE TO A COUNTRY NOTORIOUS FOR HATING THE FUCKING CONS.
Fuck me the English ex-pats I know up here are actually normally the most die-hard SNP voters or non-political.
>>73175380
It's not just the fear that the tenant may be a scallywag, it's that every DHSS recipient is a pain in the arse and causes the landlord a lot more paperwork. Working tenants just pay, housing benefit claimants require the landlord to fill in forms and provide the council with all sorts of information. It is very annoying. On top of that benefits of anyone can be reduced or stopped more easily than someone can lose a job. To have the rental income of your property reliant on a bureaucratic decision you have no power to affect an unattractive instability for a landlord.
On top of the councils, when they stop or reduce payments leaving the tenant unable to pay the rent, routinely advise them to just stop paying the rent and that they have a right to domicile and can not be evicted for a few months. This is the worst case scenario for a landlord.
The system itself makes DHSS tenants unattractive, not just the high proportion of them who are unreliable ragamuffins.
>>73176674
>lots of tory areas yet to announce
>still have the second choice voting to go through
don't give up hope yet lad, merchant man might still swing it
and if he does the leftist asspain will be fucking monumental
>>73176731
>BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'D MOVE TO A COUNTRY NOTORIOUS FOR HATING THE FUCKING CONS.
I really don't think what party a given area votes for factors into the decision to flee north because brown people are going into the cities in England.
(Not that I think the Con swing is down to anything but Labour dying on it's arse.)
>>73176414
>Fraud
>Paki politics
...and the difference is?
>>73176674
If we Brexit, it'll be ok
If we don't - We need to leave /pol/
>>73176673
>Vote of no confidence by a con-labour coalition when?
Terrible idea.
Votes of no confidence without a fair motive means people just vote SNP to get a stable government. And seriously why would the cons risk these results? They might provoke Labour to do it and stab them in the back though.
Proud to be Welsh lads. Shame our Nige wasn't standing for a seat.
But Plaid also did well. I wonder if we'll end up like Scotland, with Plaid vs UKIP being like the SNP vs Tories.
Also I don't think Scotland will go for independence. SNP seem to have hit a wall and the growing strength of the unionist Tories will keep them in.
>>73176674
Sorry lad, I'm afraid I'll have to join in though.
It's the only way you're ging to change
Fuck you dad, why did you have to leave us?
>>73176939
Because your whore of a mother and your uncles filled your mind with nonsense
Based Whales
>>73176825
paki politics is 'i can't read the ballot paper but my imam told me to put an x in the box next to the rose'
fraud is 'hello my name is mahmoud al-kebab ibn towerhamletti and i am here to surrogate vote for my 23 sons and 11 daughters who are all currently on university work programs in france' and 'labour have won an astounding victory in rochdale where they took a 98% share of all returned postal votes'
>>73176866
fuck it I think we should just send the tanks in and
burn holyrood to the ground
put all SNP MPs and MSPs up against the wall and restore direct rule from an office on whitehall
>>73176673
>con-labour coalition
Has that ever happened outside of war time?
Although politics in this country is fracturing. So it wouldn't surprise me if we end up like continental Europe, with dozens of competing parties but the centre-left/right still dominating.
>>73176489
haha! wonderful!
>>73176628
i can see labour losing out in the coming years, as it has in scotland, but i hope with the rise in nationalism it doesn't mean we vote PC
>>73176817
>I really don't think what party a given area votes for factors into the decision to flee north because brown people are going into the cities in England.
The vote might not but the culture does. Scotland's cities are actually more like England's cities used to be (white, fairly friendly, not too gentrified) and it's similar in the countryside. These type of communities are what the cons used to stand for pre-thatcher.
Despite what /pol/ thinks Scotland is hardly a communist area.
>>73176825
Paki politics isn't legally fraud only morally.
>>73176882
we don't want nige locked up in the senedd mate he's too valuable in the wider world
>>73176991
R-reeeeee...
>>73175646
>all this snp butthurt over the greens
Aren't they irrelevant anyway?
>>73177040
WM is worse than HR anon. Shooting the SNP is hardly going to help solve what's wrong with the UK as they are merely a symptom not the cause.
>>73177128
I hope you realise that if we get cucked into staying in the EU it's your moral responsibility to elect Trump and annex the UK
>>73176882
I don't think Plaid will be like the SNP. They tend to lean more to cultural nationalism rather than political
>>73177069
the only people who care about Plaid Cymru are the Welsh speakers up north
lots of people are fed up with Labour, and they won't vote Conservative because of bad blood in the past so that leaves UKIP
>>73174545
My city is still Labour
It'll never fucking end, will it?
>>73177164
Greens split the pro-independence vote and are wishy-washy as fuck on the issue.
The Greens being irrelevant is exactly why they're upset. I'm more amused by the Greens who get upset that the SNP call them out on what they've done.
>>73176999
Mona Wales is also ok tbth
>>73177209
Father,
I'm not bailing you out on this one, ask Canada.
Sincerely Don't Give A Fuck,
'Murica.
>>73176674
That's not true. Rotterdam has a muslim mayor.
Look who the Scots just elected to their parliament.
>>73177397
topkek
>>73176405
>> Women - 2.0%
>> Respect - 1.0%
>> Brit - 1.0%
>> Cannabis - 1.0%
>> BNP - 1.0%
>> Ind - 1.0%
nice joke candidates
>>73177297
based schlomo
>>73177397
Who the fuck pushed Frankie Boyle into the The Fountain of Youth?
>>73177069
Plaid probably won't be anything significant unless some huge political event happens, they'll just be a decent-sized influence party that can siphon votes from Labour.
England and Wales have more ties and are more alike than England and Scotland, south Wales simply isn't interested in nationalism unless a huge demographic shift happens to retarded youth (but it doesn't look like that'll happen).
UKIP are pretty comfy in Wales now, I'd imagine. Votes might go back to Labour but not for a long while, and they simply won't vote Conservative while UKIP exists to be the softer alternative choice of the two.
>Be Welsh
>MFW People celebrating my country because we're a little less cucked than last election
We made great strides but we need Labour OUT. Even Plaid are better than Labour. The best thing is it's a good way to oust Corbyn-laden
>>73176405
>> Ind - 1.0%
that's independent not india right?
>>73177209
this might be my favorite thing a british person has ever said
>>73177397
hhahahahahahahahaha holy shit
>>73177397
>voting for a teenager
>>73177508
>Cannabis - 1.0%
these fellas have it good, getting neetbux from the taxpayer, smoking weed all day and barely having to work since they'll never get enough votes to legalize cannabis
>>73177297
sauce
>Based Alex Cole Hamilton stops the SNP from getting my seat in Edinburgh West
>>73177648
1% is surprisingly high
>>73177583
We'll never get Labour out until Wales stops being poor 2bh
Holy fuck the 'save our NHS' chant was noticeably nasally
>>73177598
yeah (an actual India Party would probably manage about 10-15% in London unfortunately.)
>>73174691
maybe the scots will shut the fuck up about how they need to leave the uk because england is so tory
>>73177648
It's a protest vote
>>73177745
Only if you are high yourself.
London results start appearing in ten minutes.
Independent holds Dorset PCC
>>73177873
I thought mayoral doesn't come out until Sunday?
>>73177873
>London results start appearing in ten minutes.
I'm not drunk enough to witness the fall of London.
>>73177814
>India Party
>10-15%
Nah mate Pajeets don't engage in as much voter fraud at Ahmeds
A literal 'islamic gommunism bardy :^DD' would probably do well though
>>73177976
MAY be 5pm tonight according to the Telegraph
>>73177598
It's a mad Polish prince who wants to kill Farage in a sword fight. Pretty based t.b.h.
>>73177583
Theoretically Plaid could continue taking the the Labour vote from them while UKIP gathers up the anti-EU and Conservative vote.
If Labour doesn't fix itself (unlikely), they could end up being pushed to the back like in Scotland and UKIP could gain an actual stronghold in the UK. What's more promising is that most of the tribal Labour support is the older generation who'll die off eventually, and there's nothing really but those they've managed to influence to replace them.
Wales could be pretty comfy for UKIP eventually as their main opposition would be a PC/Lab split.
>>73177990
>implying London hasn't been going to hell over the past few decades
multiculturalism is one hell of a drug
>>73178052
>It's a mad Polish prince who wants to kill Farage in a sword fight. Pretty based t.b.h.
Fuck that would be fun to watch.
Tories hold Suffolk PCC
>>73178124
We need a referendum to ask whether we should split London off from the rest of the UK.
Preferably with a large wall. Armed with nukes.
>Natalie Bennett
>Greens
>>73177397
fuck. me.
i want to get into politics at some point, but thinking that at 22, people would brush me off for being too young. Then here's this amebic looking orange scarecrow fuck who's actually been elected! Cunt doesn't look like he's finished his GCSE's
>>73177976
It depends, I think if paki man gets an overall majority on the first ballot he wins outright
If he doesn't the second choice votes get counted which will take much longer and will probably favour goldbergschindlerstein leading to a much closer race than the 9% gap we're seeing now
Not sure though another anon will probably correct me
>>73178064
in my experience it's the old Labour voters who are switching to UKIP, they're being replaced by students, chavs and Muslims
>>73178193
My vote in action.
>>73177760
which is ironic, since Labour are the ones keeping wales poor
>>73178064
old labour vote is going UKIP in droves here, it's the middle aged and recently retired who still have a chip on their shoulder about thatcher that need to fuck off
>>73177745
>high
>>73178222
He's 21.
Went to an ex-poly uni then dropped out to "organise the youth pro-independence campaign"
>>73176405
>Women's Equality Party
>2 %
Makes me fucking violently ill desu lad
>>73178124
Yeah, but this is like finally putting Grandma to sleep after watching years of her battling alzheimers, Khan is the doctor turning of the life support and destroying hope for recovery.
>>73177397
SCOTLAND THE BRAVE
>>73178243
>>73178306
Ah, fair enough then, that all still sounds promising for UKIP.
So long as Labour stay fucked and can't regain Wales as a stronghold then everything's probably going to be okay.
>>73178336
Khan is the carbon monoxide in her blood, seeping slowly into her organs, poisoning her and causing irreparable brain damage. Khan is the eventual organ failure caused by the disease she has battled with for so long but alas in vain.
Khan is the reaper. The silent darkness.
R.I.P.
>>73178211
Would support that. London is basically its own city state now
>>73178336
Is he honestly that bad? I know he's Muslim, but is he that bad? Might not stop him from doing a bad job?
>>73177226
Try living in the utopia that is manchester. Must be the only tory for miles m8.
>>73178330
If I ever meet a WEP candidate, I'll unleash the red-pill on them.
>>73177397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8
>autists not understanding that the mayor of London is a glorified transportation manager
Seriously, its like none of you people know anything about the role.
>>73178638
RARE
>>73178324
>Went to an ex-poly uni then dropped out to "organise the youth pro-independence campaign"
there is no way in hell that this guy wasn't literally memed into existence
i demand to see a birth certificate and contemporary evidence of his childhood
>>73178567
I honestly wouldn't mind it.
And make the UK a fed.
Each nation having its own general autonomy.
I think the North of England have even said they'd want to split and create their own country within said relationship.
There were mentions of it again during the Scottish Indie ref.
>>73178567
>Might not stop him from doing a bad job?
he's a paki, what do you think?
>>73177508
Gotta love the women party. In reference to the cock up with voting in Barnet yesterday
>Sophie Walker, the Women’s Equality Party mayoral candidate, has registered a complaint with the council, along with the London Assembly. She told the Press Association: “I am very disappointed. I have spent my morning responding to messages from people upset that they could not vote. “Women first got the vote 100 years ago and there are women today who have been unable to vote.”
>>73178638
>tory
>EU flag
wew
>>73178638
what country is that
>>73178691
>its like none of you people know anything
Apt description of 4chan in general, my friend.
>>73178729
christ almighty.
Did the Muzzie become mayor in london? sorry I'll leave once you tell me.
>>73178712
Scotland has been run by the SNP for 9 years.
Wales ha sbeen run by Labour forever.
The North of England councils have been 100% Labour for decades.
Tories still always being blamed for these areas being terrible.
>>73178567
He was on HIGNFY once and seemed like a friendly enough guy for a career Labour politician, but the symbolism of watching the 1st of the Western capitals fall to a Muslim mayor... It must be people felt after the Goths sacked Rome.
Did anyone else have no UKIP or independent to vote for in the local, by the way?
I ended up just protesting the ballot and writing 'none' across it. We're still awaiting results but it feels so shit that I literally don't care remotely what our result is.
The most I have to look forward to is finding out if our independent PCC won, just as a fuck you to Labour and Conservatives.
>>73178881
Not yet, results expected around 5pm
>>73178729
Kek what was that about? She upset they didn't get more votes?
>>73178638
Stop wasting tax $$ you prick and get back to work.
>>73178892
>Tories still always being blamed for these areas being terrible.
To be fair they did purposefully shut down all the industry over (arguably semi-legitimate_ worries about muh marixst revolutions.
So in that respect the Tories are, in part, still responsible even now. Labour have of course done nothing to help the situation instead just sitting there and crying about the mean Conservatives but that doesn't change the facts.
KEN LIVINGSTONE ON BBC ONE
EVERY INTERVIEW HE HAS DONE THIS PAST 24 HOURS HE KEEPS BRINGING UP HITLER ALL BY HIMSELF
>>73174545
Prof. John Curtice has the overall Projected National Share as follows:
>LAB 31 CON 30 LDEM 15 UKIP 12
With this PNS, at a general election on a uniform national swing, would leave us with the the following result in parliament:
>CON 277 (-51), LAB 263 (+31), LDEM 30 (+22), UKIP 2 (+1), SNP 57 (+1), GRN 0 (-1)
As of 3pm - Thus far Labour have made a net loss of 24 councillors (substantially lower than 150-200 figure predicted by pollster and pundits before last night) the Tories have made a net loss of 15. Lib Dems have increased their number of councillors by a few dozen, as have UKIP, but these are on the whole relatively minor changes to the 2011 result.
In the London mayoral vote, Sadiq Khan is looking on course to win against Zac Goldsmith by a significant figure, but the votes are still being counted for that one.
>>73179085
in a sense but most people in Wales are whining crybabies who are living in the past, I see kids here born in the 90s complaining about Thatcher as if they were even born then
>>73179128
Was that the guy that said Hitler supported the creation of a Jewish state, and then everyone called him anti-Semitic for it?
>>73179085
>he thinks the tories hit the 'shut down industry' button
>not that de-industrialization was a process brought about by globalization and market forces
Corbyn go home
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36227570
GOVERNMENT U-TURN ALERT
>Plans to force all of England's schools to become academies are being abandoned in a government climbdown.
>>73175439
>Aren't they winning tho?
Yes they're leading the overall share of the vote and the number of councillors elected.
They have lost 24 councillors out of 2500. The polls were predicting they'd lose somewhere between 150-200 seats.
>>73179201
>>CON 277 (-51), LAB 263 (+31), LDEM 30 (+22), UKIP 2 (+1), SNP 57 (+1), GRN 0 (-1)
Ergh Lib-Dem/Labour Coalition
why are the conservatives not conservative anymore?
how fucked is London? i know here the mayor can do things like control liquor/tobacco. That's why every time NYC elects a libtard the age to buy tobacco goes up (I think it was at 24 under de Blasio at one point) and then the moderates get elected and put it back down
Could the terrorist mayor try to institute some Sharia by limiting access to liquor?
>>73179289
Bit late to be announcing that, right?
They likely lost a shitload of teacher and parents votes over that.
>>73179305
>losing councillors is winning
>i fell over 90 metres into the 100m sprint but all the pundits were saying i'd fall after 80 so i win :^)
>>73179244
>Corbyn go home
Things like the Miner's strikes worried them heavily. It was also good to keep the UK EU aligned permanently. It's a common argument now that we have no industry...
>>73179403
lol no, they deal with transport and bins here
>>73174545
I love Wales. Everyone must watch this at least once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzR_-WAPtL0
>>73179403
He'd better bloody not. That would be a protest I could get behind.
>Pic related
>>73179212
>in a sense but most people in Wales are whining crybabies who are living in the past, I see kids here born in the 90s complaining about Thatcher as if they were even born then
I agree that whining about it now doesn't help and that's on Labour but the Cons are still responsible for the original cock up. Better for everyone to admit their mistakes and move on.
>>73179372
>Ergh Lib-Dem/Labour Coalition
SNP-Labour would be more likely and have a clear majority of about 15-20 by the looks of it.
Problem is the Blairite wing of the party would not accept that, so there's about 15 or 20 Labour MP's who would probably prevent that from taking place.
>>73179403
>how fucked is london?
>>73179403
>>73179403
>Could the terrorist mayor try to institute some Sharia by limiting access to liquor?
lol Amerifats
>>73178729
it's like they were born 100 years too late and are bored now
>>73179289
>first the children
>then the contracts
>now this
They are fucking terrified for a defeat this close to Brexit
Such low energy
>>73179085
>Tories shut down the industry meme
wew lad
>every taxpayer in the country should subsidise my local industry just because our region is too stupid to diversify its economy and the pit employs 90% of our adult males
>fuck thatcher how dare she stop subsidies and make sure that our economy is actually making money
Thatcher didn't shut down anything, she just stopped the insanity of local industries being keptafloat purely through gubment bennies despite chronic and unchanging losses.
Pretty much my entire northern family all agree that all that shit needed to close and it was long overdue.
Absolute joke, fuck northern Labour.
>>73179216
Yes, merely by suggesting facts that Hitler wasn't the complete anti-christ of the shoah resulted in every Jew in Labour screaming
LONDONERS BTFO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-36204795
>>73179403
No. The powers of the London mayor are extremely limited, its mostly a show position of no consequence.
Of course, when Khan wins this piece of information will be forgotten, as /pol/ throws its own shit and smears it all over the wall over the prospect.
>>73179471
>worried them
Maybe for like a year in the 60's. If you seriously think "muh establishment" smashed industry, whilst laughing and congratulating themselves on ending marxism, your off your rocker.
>>73179562
Of course it because protesting Rotherham would be a bit extreme eh lad?
>>73179505
>dem concentration centers.
MULTI.
CULTURED.
BRITAIN.
Self-segregation is still segregation.
>>73179201
Yeah but as has bee said, these elections have very little relevance to the GE, Millipede swept councils if you remember
>>73179582
SNP-Labour will never happen anon.
And the SNP will go for a minority anyway.
>>73179469
>>losing councillors is winning
No, winning the most votes and having the most councillors is winning.
>>73179668
Don't wanna get arrested for hate speech desu :(
>>73179201
people starting to see sense
I'll hang around if results are coming in 2 hours
can't get BBC right now, is Sky News stream good enough? pretty sure this is going to be a big story in the US if London gets a muslim mayor
>>73179565
This picture makes me so happy
>>73179672
to the rest of the country london is a concentration centre
>>73179655
>Maybe for like a year in the 60's. If you seriously think "muh establishment" smashed industry, whilst laughing and congratulating themselves on ending marxism, your off your rocker.
It wasn't the entire concern as economics certainly played a part (those indian and chinks don't want rights and so on) but if you think it wasn't a relevant factor you are delusional.
Corbyn and co play it up instead of giving actual solutions and that makes them just as guilty but that doesn't change the facts.
>>73177217
Plaid is totally cucked and exactly the same as the SNP, yeah they have done things for culture in the past but most of that generation has died off, Leanne Wood now goes on television and talks about how not allowing seven billion people into the UK to get medical treatment is evil
>yanks are going to flood into the thread
>WHATS A LONDON
>GUYS YOU HAVE NO GUNS
>MUSLIMS MAYOR KEK
>LONDON IS NOW RUN BY 100% MUSLIMS
>THE MAYOR IS SUPER IMPORTANT
Fun thread whilst it lasted
>>73179783
>certainly played a part
Yeah, nah, that's bullshit.
If not, citation please.
>>73179842
It wont just be this thread.
Everytime our flag is seen people will bring it up.
Like how Indians are always harrassed with Poo in Loo
>>73179805
she isn't even Welsh, Wood is an English surname
>>73179842
Fun while the Labour butthurt was in full effect early this morning
>>73179842
and we will shitpost about how their country will have a white minority in 30 years it goes in circles m8
>>73179932
I miss Ed memeband
>BBC cameraman
kek
>>73179842
calm down, I'll just be watching the results quietly
>>73179732
http://www.livenewschat.eu/sky/
Sky link if the OP one doesn't work
i'm beginning to think leave.eu are just in it for the banter since they didn't get the official nomination
Why can't I handle all these gains
>>73180108
Kek is this real?
>>73180108
>they didn't get the official nomination
Really? Who did in the end?
>bexley first result in from london assembly
>+10% ukip
>>73179932
>Yeah, nah, that's bullshit.
At the very least they are guilty of allowing it to die out when they could easily have stepped in.
>If not, citation please.
Surprisingly most of this isn't easily proven anon.
Still the entire bullshit with the miners' strike is a solid example. I'd argue in that case she isn't 100% to blame as there were significant issues there in the first place but closing it all down rather than paying the short-term costs of modernising was clearly politically motivated.
Was it the only factor? No. Was it relevant? You better fucking believe it. The strikes were not a small thing. Hell they'd 'won' in the 70s and trade unions were getting out of control.
>>73175646
> independence off the table until 2021
As a Scotsman who voted UKIP this pleases me.
Tbh the problem with British politics isn't what figurehead you elect to cut ribbons in London.
It's that despite all the recent terror attacks, despite the Euro hitting record lows, and the entire economy of Europe tanking due to retarded east and Baltic states pulling everyone else down, you guys are still having a hard time deciding whether or not to leave the EU.
America threatens to pull out of the UN every few months, there's currently a bill before Congress to ban the UN from receiving any funding in the US budget, and that organization isn't nearly as toxic as the EU is.
>>73178638
Try Brighton that's hard mode.
>>73180378
The media is about 90% pro-EU and fighting a propaganda war
>>73179505
>London is shaped like Poland
>>73174545
>born in wales
>moved to shitposting capital when i was 3yo
Im still proud they've shown some self-respect though, hopefully UKIP makes even more gains soon
>>73179655
>smashed industry, whilst laughing and congratulating themselves on ending marxism
this is exactly what happened tho
ken making more israel comments
>>73180259
leave did GO didn't
>>73180282
>closing it all down rather than paying the short-term costs of modernising
KEK
They closed their own industries down when the subsidies were stopped and they had to face the fact they were chronically running at a loss.
It was unprofitable, just as it would be today.
Holy shit do you SERIOUSLY think that with global economic development and the development of international trading markets at the time and since that it was just a case of fucking 'modernising' it?
Do you seriously think that the UK can profitably compete in raw materials and heavy industry with the world with globalised markets?
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>73180539
He just can't help himself can he.
>>73178222
Probably best to wait until your at best early thirties, and have a life of experience rather than idealism.
>>73180437
Is that the green constituency? Gutted 4 u lad.
>>73179965
Well not necessarily, traditionally Welshmen tended to use patronymics opposed to surnames. Starting in the modern era, a lot of people whose surnames weren't adaptations of patronymics (e.g. Jones/Edwards/Thomas/Williams/Powell) were obligated to take surnames (derived from either language) based on their occupation or place of residence, so Wood (woodsman, woodland dweller) could've simply been one of those
>>73180591
The mining industry was closed down to break the NUM and cripple the power of organised labour and the trade union movement, thus enabling the 30 years of wage stagnation and vast redistribution of wealth towards the top 0.1% that's taken place since.
It had nothing to do with economics. It was a political battle.
>>73180378
The problem is the scaremongering from the media and stay campaign. On top of that the world has been pretty negative about the UK leaving the EU. Your own president hinted that we would not have the same relationship with the US if we leave and the bloody backstabbing French have been pretty oppositional to the motion.
>>73179396
More concerned with free market cuckoldry and growing the GDP than they are with conserving the nation.
>>73180757
Yes.
>GO ON THE INTERNET AND LOOK IT UP SHITLORDS
t. ken livingston
>>73180514
Come home, Welsh man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtnWVvDX6k
>>73177397
literally looks like a smash bros character introduction
>>73180256
If you're actually EU-based (which I doubt), then how fucked would you be if Brexit happened?
>>73180804
>it had nothing to do with economics
If you honestly believe that then you are completely delusional. Thatcher wanted to break up the power of the unions, and the ways she went about cutting off the subsidies and support of mining was due in part to that, but it was an economic move.
The mines weren't making money, and they still wouldn't even if more was thrown into them to 'modernise', and they'd be running at even more of a loss if they were still around today.
You're literally just a delusional lefty if you believe that bollocks. There's lots to criticise Thatcher about, but cutting the subsidies and support to chronically unprofitable industries is not one of them.
>>73180931
he claimed a number of jewish people agree with him.
Whittle 3rd in Bexley & Bromley!
UKIP gains everywhere
It's beautiful
DAMP RAG ON BBC
>>73180361
>As a Scotsman who voted UKIP this pleases me.
As a Scotsman who voted SNP (them or Labour in Glasgow, what can you do?) I am also pleased.
>>73180591
>They closed their own industries down when the subsidies were stopped and they had to face the fact they were chronically running at a loss.
Which could easily have been solved given the political will. The UK is still importing more than 2/3rds of its coal and every area that relied upon mining is fucked.
I'm not going to argue the miners aren't responsible for it to a degree but arguing that 'fuck the trade unions' wasn't an open policy of the Thatcher era is retarded. Union membership is down 50%+ across the board since the Thatcher era.
>Holy shit do you SERIOUSLY think that with global economic development and the development of international trading markets at the time and since that it was just a case of fucking 'modernising' it?
Worth the costs in the long-term. However in that would also have kept the unions strong.
>It was unprofitable, just as it would be today.
Just as coal mining in the rest of Europe and the Western world is unprofitable...
British coal mining was sacrificed to destroy the power of the unions who, to be fair, were far too strong at the time. To claim otherwise flies in the face of pretty much every interpretation of the strike even those that are massively pro-Thatcher.
>>73181102
>The mines weren't making money
This is meme. The majority of the mines closed in both 1984 and 1991 were profitable, and profitable mines closed quicker than unprofitable ones simply cos they had stronger union organisation.
>>73181102
>You're literally just a delusional lefty if you believe that bollocks.
There's nothing delusional about calmly and rationally looking at the historical record.
There was no dispute about the motives behind the miners strike at the time btw, the Tories were perfectly open about it since they'd been turfed out of office in 1974 by the miners and had sworn revenge ever after.
The purpose was simply to use state violence to break the power of organised labour so that wages could be kept stagnant in order to boost corporate profits.
And people say Brexit isn't going to happen.
>>73180591
>Holy shit do you SERIOUSLY think that with global economic development and the development of international trading markets at the time and since that it was just a case of fucking 'modernising' it?
Norway still builds ships.
Germany still builds cars.
And so on and so forth.
>>73181252
>British coal mining was sacrificed to destroy the power of the unions who, to be fair, were far too strong at the time.
That depends on whose side you were on.
I would rather live in a society were working class people had substantial political power to one dominated entirely by the City of London and entitled born-to-rule Oxbridge wankers.
You are right though that the miners strike was pure class warfare and little to do with the economics of coal mining in Britain.
>ROTHERHAM: LABOUR HOLD
L E L
>>73181102
>If you honestly believe that then you are completely delusional. Thatcher wanted to break up the power of the unions, and the ways she went about cutting off the subsidies and support of mining was due in part to that, but it was an economic move.
Cutting subsidies flat and provoking a massive strike is a stupid move from an economic point of view. Doing things slowly and with an actual plan is how you would act if your wanted the industries to actually be worth something afterwards.
The goal was always to crush the unions in a big battle. The miners were unpopular anyway.
>The mines weren't making money, and they still wouldn't even if more was thrown into them to 'modernise', and they'd be running at even more of a loss if they were still around today.
Again plenty of other modernised mines running in Europe just fine. Still a few in the UK too. And they weren't as unprofitable as Thatcherites like to claim particularly if you count the hidden benefits to the local economy of people actually working.
And yes it would have cost in the short-term but how much are those same areas costing now in mass unemployment?
>You're literally just a delusional lefty if you believe that bollocks
Stop misusing literally. It is clearly possible to hold such a view and not be a lefty.
>There's lots to criticise Thatcher about, but cutting the subsidies and support to chronically unprofitable industries is not one of them.
The way she went about doing it was designed to provoke mass strikes not save money in the long-term.
>>73181372
>+24
There are literally thousands of seats being contested, this is well under 1% of them.
>>73181053
I'm not. For some reason my works WiFi gives me the EU flag. I live in manchester.
>>73181553
Fucking pathetic
>>73181513
>I would rather live in a society were working class people had substantial political power to one dominated entirely by the City of London and entitled born-to-rule Oxbridge wankers.
I'd rather live in a sane one where neither group was in charge frankly. The earlier strikes probably hurt the other working-class people more than the rich.
The Cold War was also a thing.
Sky News doing the whole multiculturalism is our strength and the immigrants do the jobs Londoners won't do.
>>73181252
>Which could easily have been solved given the political will. The UK is still importing more than 2/3rds of its coal and every area that relied upon mining is fucked.
Because it was and still is cheaper to import.
Why should industries that use coal be punished with higher cost just because British mining can't be as profitable as the rest of the world?
Why should British taxpayers as a whole prop up these unprofitable industries that force other UK industries to buy at a higher cost or the taxpayers end up paying more because the prices are kept competitive with the rest of the world artificially?
You're fucking delusional. The mines ran at a loss, so either the industries that used them should pay more for no reason just to keep them going and suffer as a result or our government should prop them up for no reason just to krep them going and taxpayers suffer as a result.
This is a globalised economy, get the fuck over it. The UK simply cannot compete in every area of industry as the rest of the world, and nobody in their right fucking mind should seriously be suggesting that taxpayers shod be expected to prop up things that want to try it just because a local region and union organisations can't diversify their employment.
Uh, guys
>>73181564
>Again plenty of other modernised mines running in Europe just fine. Still a few in the UK too. And they weren't as unprofitable as Thatcherites like to claim particularly if you count the hidden benefits to the local economy of people actually working.
The mines (or at least some of them) were subsidised because it made the cost of generating electricity cheaper as they could get access to cheaper coal than the market rate. It was deliberately set up that way - making a loss in one sector (mining) to reduce costs in another (energy)
>lammy's beard
jesus christ
>>73181439
And the UK still builds ships and cars, what the fuck is your point?
>>73181688
>Because it was and still is cheaper to import.
I know fuck all about coal, but:
Import from where?
If we're importing it from the EU...
>>73181594
Interesting. Does your ISP have a default proxy on something?
I'm in Wolverhampton, if that makes you feel any better.
>>73181697
That's just the first result from Bexley lad.
>>73181350
Post fall of Soviet Union markets were flooded with super fucking cheap open cast Polish and Ukrainian lignite.
We could not compete.
>>73181795
UK civilian shipbuilding is a fucking joke. We build our own military equipment, which is essentially indirect state subsidy.
UK car manufacturing isn't too hot compared to some other countries either.
>>73180558
no the establishment tory group Vote Leave got it, leave.eu and GO were the ones who got shunned
>>73181877
>Post fall of Soviet Union markets were flooded with super fucking cheap open cast Polish and Ukrainian lignite.
That's very interesting but the miners strike was in 1984.
David Lammy looking smug as fuck with his new beard on BBC2
First PCC gain, Lincolnshire, tory gain from ind
fuck off lammy.
MAGA
MAKE BRITON PYTHON AGAIN
>>73181931
In business you have to be pro-active. Thatcher and Reagan knew the Soviet Union was on its last legs and used this as an opportunity to dismantle agitators .
Just like Reagan did with the US air traffic controllers in 1981.
Somebody just fucking nuke us already
>>73181905
The UK is one of the best exporters of luxury cars in the world.
50 seats for ukip lad
>>73181688
>Because it was and still is cheaper to import.
On a very basic level it might be mildly cheaper if you compare effectively run modern mines to outsourced shit abroad.
Taking into account all costs it's still better to have people actually fucking working. You still have to pay those same miners benefits rather than wages after all not to mention the costs of crime + law enforcement, social decay and so on. You also get jobs around the heavy industry (people need to eat, live, travel and so on) and the vast majority of the money you pay out in wages goes into that local community.
Importing sees no local benefits beyond maybe the people in the ports.
>Why should industries that use coal be punished with higher cost just because British mining can't be as profitable as the rest of the world?
Why is British coal magically unprofitable? Granted the way the nationalised industry was run is poor but what makes it impossible to effectively privatise it etc? Again the Germans mange it fine.
>Why should British taxpayers as a whole prop up these unprofitable industries
It could easily be run in a more competitive manner if the will existed.
>The mines ran at a loss
Which is heavily overstated and could have been reduced.
>This is a globalised economy, get the fuck over it. The UK simply cannot compete in every area of industry as the rest of the world
So we should outsource everything to some chinks who will work for pennies? How then are we to solve things like the deficit? And once again other western countries manage industry just fine.
Service economies don't work. The government ends up paying the now unemployed people benefits (you simply cannot magic service jobs out of nowhere) anyway instead of getting good work out of them and all the profit goes abroad.
The UK has massive unemployment with lots hidden under thins like excessive education (ages 16-21 are essentially unemployment for most).
>>73182191
Blaming the miners strike on the collapse of the soviet union, even though the miners strike took place 7 years before the end of the USSR, is still pretty dumb and demonstrates your utter lack of historical knowledge.
>>73182308
This Nissan have a HUGE plant in Sunderland.
Shame that we hung Birmingham up to dry though.
The World at One Verified account
@BBCWorldatOne
Prof John Curtice says Labour party would "probably" be in lead if there were a general election now, based on English voter behaviour #wato
>Rotherham Borough Council has held firm for Labour:
>LAB: 48 (+1)
>UKIP: 14 (+2)
>IND: 1
They deserve it desu fuckin cucks
>redditch
>>>/out/
>>73181711
That also.
This exact argument was used for the retarded Beeching Cuts. Look at one loss-making part of the economy in isolation and it looks like free savings. In practice it was propping up the rest of the country.
Voodoo-economists don't really give good advice either.
HAHAHAHA Wales has elected UKIP officials, England still too cucked to even vote for Nigel himself in the last general, enjoy your mudslime mayor
>>73182488
lulz cucks
>Labour not punished at all in Rapeherham
For crying out loud.
>>73182390
>You still have to pay those same miners benefits rather than wages after all
This argument also runs the other way around:
You can pay him a reasonable wage to be a worker, which requires subsidizing a mine.
Or you can stick him on the dole (at a lower pay rate than as a worker) and burn the mine down.
Ignoring social costs and a long term recovery the latter is far more efficient.
>>73182392
Killed a bit of time though.
>>73181795
>And the UK still builds ships and cars, what the fuck is your point?
Cars for German companies (who take all the profit) and ships at a massively reduced rate. Why do you think parts of Glasgow are so fucking poor nowadays? The ships they do make are mostly just feel-good projects funded by the government anyway and the Clyde is a shadow of its former self.
Who was responsible for the massive cuts to the arms industry and the armed services?
Oh that'd be Mrs Thatcher again. We'd have lost the Falklands if it'd been a few years later for gods sake.
The state of the SA80 was, in part, down to the people making them knowing they were getting made redunant right afterwards. The UK couldn't even fix it and will never make another domestic firearm but that's ok, we'll just spend millions importing them. Those German workers will be thankful for the wages the British taxpayer is paying.
>>73182572
They'e not lost a single seat, it's disgusting
>>73182577
Fucking disgusting. Not a single seat lost.
>>73182488
The proud white man putting up a valiant last stand with those Ukip seats
>>73182577
It's official, Rotherham is the most cucked town in the UK. They deserve to have their children raped
Just kill me fucking now, Labor still held in Sheffiled, POC still labour. Rotherham and Barnsley will get cucked by muslims
Fuck me, tell the vikings to come back
>>73182577
Second time in a row as well after the GE.
I think someone ought to go to the next Labour meeting there with a camera, or go around town looking for (white) Labour voters, and ask them news-report interview why they continue supporting them after all the child rape they enabled.
>tfw Scotland is more conservative than England
>>73177555
underrated
>>73182855
pretty much, conservatives fucking gutteed the north in the 80's, this was rape of entire communities it left a scar on the psyche of the inhabitants and even now the hatred endures. Had the same thing happened in the US, with access to guns I bet there would have been an armed uprising against the south.
>>73182488
>get twenty+ people to vote for UKIP every election
>it doesn't make a single fucking difference because old senile cunts, brainwashed teens, and shitskins will vote for labour no matter here
I wish somebody would just fucking firebomb the town centre and bus station already.
>>73182948
>Labor still held in Sheffiled
They also substantially increased their vote in the 2 by-elections in the city too.
>>73183116
Sounds like where I live. Where are you?
>>73179505
I love how Asian-Indian is shown in brown.
>>73178324
he did a shit job too
>refused to send 'yes' campaign materials to people he felt 'hurt the campaign' based on his own subjective opinions.
that the youth pro-independence campaign could be so childish is actually very amusing.
>>73182308
Shame the profit is mostly made by the Germans.
Still they'll get what they deserve with increasing mechanisation of their workforce. Shit should be fun to watch.
>>73182605
>You can pay him a reasonable wage to be a worker, which requires subsidizing a mine.
But which gives you cheaper coal for cheaper power production and gives work for faggots on trains, people feeding the miners and so on. Also someone has to build and maintain the machinery and trains. Also keeps him and his family happy and fed more than if they were unemployed and encourages them to value work over laziness. Oh and he'll spend those wages locally anyway.
>Or you can stick him on the dole (at a lower pay rate than as a worker) and burn the mine down.
And spend millions importing coal, relying on fluctuations in the market and giving whichever other country a fuckton of money in the process (which will NOT be spent locally). And produce massive ghettos which cost a fuckton to police, repair and so on. All for a small saving in wages.
You also have to pay for the infrastructure behind the benefit like means testing, job centres, fraud detection and suchlike.
>Ignoring social costs and a long term recovery the latter is far more efficient.
Only for maybe 10 years but then again that's an entire political career and who cares after that? You won't have to deal with it.
>>73183190
I literally live above a shop in Rotherham's town centre.
>>73183253
>>73183253
>>73183253
>>73183253
>>73183253
New Thread
fucked up the title a bit because I'm a literal and actual mouthbreather
New thread when?
>>73183116
Actually UKIP get more funding the more votes they get even if they don't win a seat as long as they get at least 1 overal (and more importantly cons/lab/lib lose that funding).
So yes, your vote does make a difference
BBC election tracker now showing Labour and Tory are tied on number of net losses, 24 each, and with the London councils still to declare, where Labour has been performing strongest, many results it's likely that the Tories will lose more council seats than Labour than by the end of the count as well as losing in the overall share of the vote.
>>73182776
>Who was responsible for the massive cuts to the arms industry and the armed services?
>Oh that'd be Mrs Thatcher again. We'd have lost the Falklands if it'd been a few years later for gods sake.
Thatcher was responsible for a huge success in the British arms industry. UK exports (particularly to the Saudis and Middle East in general), however questionable, shady and corrupt, brought in billions and still continue to.
Labour were the ones at the time who wanted all the cuts to it.
>blaming Thatcher for the SA80
come on now
>>73183566
>Thatcher was responsible for a huge success in the British arms industry. UK exports (particularly to the Saudis and Middle East in general), however questionable, shady and corrupt, brought in billions and still continue to.
Billions for the now privatised companies that pay little-no tax making select items for shitty countries sure. Arming durkas with small numbers of fancy toys is not comparable to arming a force capable of projecting itself halfway across the world. The state's ability to produce arms sufficient to actually arm its own armed forced is no longer there. It's common knowledge the UK could not produce sufficient weapons to replace the SA802 without going abroad, for example (fuck me they couldn't even fix it without doing that).
>Labour were the ones at the time who wanted all the cuts to it.
Thatcher famously cut the armed forces so heavily the Falklands War would have been unwinnable had it come a little later. This can be easily verified. The RAF pulled off the world's longest bombing raid just to try and justify their budget.
