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10 HOURS UNTIL THE DEATH OF THE LABOUR PARTY AND THE RESIGNATION OF CORBACHEV
>Council Elections
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/24/labour-set-for-worst-council-defeat-in-opposition-for-34-years/
>Labour 8pts behind Conservatives
>Literally another Shoah
Labour: -220 or more
>Welsh Assembly
Labour: -2
UKIP: +7
>Porridgewog Parliament
Labour: -12
>London Majlis
Labour: -1
>NI Assembly
Curry my yoghurt can coca coalyer
>How to vote
Polls open at 7am tomorrow. You should have received a poll card telling you where to go. If you haven't then phone your local electoral registration office as soon as polls open to check you're registered. If not, tough shit. Once in the polling station speak to the people sat at a desk, giving them your name and address. Mark an 'X' in the box next to the UKIP candidate (or select them as your '1' choice, depending on what the instructions say), fold the ballot paper in half, then place it into the ballot box. It is your choice as to whether you tell the Labour teller outside a) to fuck off, b) that you voted UKIP, and c) that the day of Our Nige is coming.
>It's only a local election
A local vote for UKIP strengthens support for the Leave campaign. Unless you want to be sucking on Angela's dick in two months' time, vote.
Godspeed lads.
>>72979122
IT BEGINS WHY FREINDS
THE LONG ROAD TO EUROPEAN VICTORY
UKIP please
>>72979122
ANTI TRUMP= ANTI WHITE
>>72976580
Anti Trump PAC tweeted that they "hate white children"
Reminder to join the Nationalists on /r/MHOC, UKIP have been taken over by liberal cucks and the Crown National Party are American LARPers.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/MHOC/comments/41tznv/join_a_party/?sort=new
>only 2 months until we destroy the EU
>>72979122
obligatory meme magic time
HERE... WE... GO
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72979375
>thinking we will ever be free
even with a 100% no the EU commission would delay till our next parliament then overturn the leave vote.
its worth it just to watch them turn on each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgS7p40ERg
Official Thread Song troops
Fresh OC
>>72979554
Not true, the referendum is legally binding unlike the negotiators believe and unlike most of the referendums on the continent
>>72979131
Keep fighting the good fight
>>72979375
Aw fuck I can't wait til Scotland denies you and you have to stay
That'd be absolutely ideal
Maybe then the mass media wouldn't conspire against independence and we could finally be free of right wing soulless cunts we didn't vote for
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-XNFokmDKrE
YOU
I WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT THE EU
I WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT THE EU
>>72979615
Fuck the Greens, but the advert with the kids being politicians was pretty cute.
>>72979615
MASSIVE TUNE
Green's have the best official propaganda fairplay
>>72979410
Thanks mister nige
>>72979780
>using right-wing as an insult
>on /pol/
>>72979122
Is Labour gets blown out will the Third Way faction take control again or will they continue trotting out the democratic socialism?
>>72979780
>we could finally be free of right wing soulless cunts we didn't vote for
HAHAHAHAHAH nope. Enjoy being part of the jews' global empire.
>>72979122
The Nige appears to be one of the few that can actually pull off wearing a fedora, tbqh.
>>72979615
Why didn't we send this to Eurovision?
>>72979780
>conservative party
>right wing
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
There's no saving our race demographically through parliamentary democracy, but it's positive to strengthen UKIP for positive propaganda prior to the EU referendum
>>72979898
u heard
Side note why do the socialists always have the best looking birds? Can the British right compete?
>>72979410
Thanks, Mr. Nige
>>72979899
They've got no one. They're dead. Only a muslim / nigger / femacuck party now. Completely out of touch with the zeitgeist.
>>72979656
I hope so my friend
Its just not wise to fully trust politicians or bankers
>>72979122
Just placed a bet on Corbyn going this year.
He won't be forced out. He'll resign.
Also Zac will win London. Despite what the polls say.
>>72979780
Scotland has 5 million votes in a country of 60+ million people.
>>72979780
Shouldn't you be molesting schoolgirls achmed?
>>72980170
The result is gonna be tighter than Diane Abbott before Corbyn got in there, though.
>>72979975
Is this real? Because by the standards of Jeremy Kyle its quite likely.
>>72980134
>he fell for the bipartisan left-right false paradigm jew
>>72980170
And the rest of the UK is going to bounce are 50 % leave and stay. While Scotland and Norn Iron probably will be about 70% stay and you'll all be fuckin raging.
>>72980257
Just like the last election, right?
Who are these mystery in voters? Everyone I know and their gran is voting out.
Love me a bit of Dan Hannan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC9nDCmqjn8
>>72979122
Brexit: The Movie
Where is this?
>>72980316
Is she a candidate though anyone could stick some slag in front of a sign. I want your top tier right wing candidates. Le Pen is alright, but she's no Cat Boyd.
>>72979122
Farage is a fucking coward who doesn't dare to critize Islam but instead opts to shit on Eastern Europeans.
>>72979554
There will be a revolution if they try anything. Once we're out we're out. Or we'll find leaders who will get us out.
>>72980387
I know, but they're coming from somewhere. We're gonna have to rely on students and militant leftists being too busy organising menstrual blood bake sales to actually go out and vote remain.
>t. Oppressed Leave-voting Student
>>72979410
Thanks Mr nige
>>72980513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_RKEhT6-f8
fuck of m8
>>72980496
>Le Pen is alright, but she's no Cat Boyd.
DELETE THIS
>>72979780
I didnt understand this at first but then I remembered the conservatives are supposed to be right wing
>>72980167
I can believe Zac could win London. Although Khan is the favourite of them two, I wonder how much that would rely on second preference votes. There are fewer parties on the right so Zac will easily pick up more first preference votes and may win a large enough majority that second preferences don't need to be taken into account.
I still think Khan will win, but Zac is still in with a chance.
>>72980513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OSbZUjg3_k
>>72980316
>average UKIP voter
Well dressed, polite, smart, pretty
>average UKIP HATER
fat, ugly, loutish, rude
>>72979122
I'VE ALREADY POSTED MY VOTING SLIP
GO UKIP GO
TO THE TOP
FUCK ANTI-WHITE LABOUR
FUCKING DIE YOU CANCER FUCKS
>>72980513
>Nigel Farage seizes on Paris attacks to blast 'problem' among Muslims and claim mass immigration has failed
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-seizes-paris-attacks-6844095
>Nigel Farage accuses Muslims in UK of 'split loyalties'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/16/nigel-farage-accuse-british-muslims-conflicting-loyalties
>Nigel Farage: British Muslim ‘fifth column’ fuels fear of immigration
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/12/nigel-farage-british-muslim-fifth-column-fuels-immigration-fear-ukip
You lads should really download the regional flags plugin. It's breddy gud:
https://github.com/flaghunters/Extra-Flags-for-4chan
>>72980513
You don't understand British politics mate. Actually, how far would you get in Belgian politics if you get called islamophobic?
>>72980691
ILL GET YOU FARAGE!!!!!
>>72980513
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/16/nigel-farage-accuse-british-muslims-conflicting-loyalties
We're British, we don't want Hajis and we don't want Slavs either.
>>72980639
BASED
>>72980438
He is very wise.
>>72980673
It's all relative innit. I'm sure you'd call me a radical leftist for wanting higher taxes and spending, but in Scotland that's just standard centre left.
>>72977320
Why do women make such shitty voters?
The Americans tend to use the "They're more left-wing" meme, but they historically broke for the Conservative party and only moved to Labour in the Blair years.
They've always trusted the SNP less than men, they're less pro-Trump and pro-UKIP. It's actually impressive, no matter your political colour if you actually want to DO anything other than be a managerial fuckhead women won't vote for you. (See: Surging SNP support after it was demonstrated minus independence they don't actually really do anything.)
HUZZAH PROUD TO BE BRITISH!
>>72980513
He regularly and loudly criticizes islam
Thats the main reason my faggot mates wont vote for him
>>72979122
Hello /pol/, My names Sadiq and im going to be the new Mayor of London tomorrow.
I just wanted to thank you in advance for all your votes and let you know that everyone, no matter the colour of their skin or flavour of their religious beliefs, will be treated fairly in my new Islamic Republic of Londonistan, as long as all non-believers pay the Jizya (kuffer taxes).
And i wanted to reassure you all that we will continue to be accepting of waves of muslims, so that no longer will we be able to return to the dark days of majority rule, and London will never again have a white Mayor.
Once again, thank you.
>>72980552
I think the remain vote will be higher than the polls suggest because plenty of people will say one thing, but when forced to actually think about it in the voting booth they will shit their pants and vote for the status quo.
>>72981020
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ESSENTIAL WATCHING FOR BRIT/POL/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abEa3-rx6MQ
>>72979122
>RESIGNATION OF CORBACHEV
Thank you for this
>>72979960
>>we could finally be free of right wing soulless cunts we didn't vote for
Nobody in England voted for the socialist SNP, but they're still grossly overrepresented in our parliament and yours.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72979122
>having a literal Jihadist as the mayor of your capital
JUST
>>72980691
>Loose Women
Literally everything wrong with women in this country today.
>>72980996
Blair put loads of women in the HoC and he really swung the female vote with it.
>>72981051
But at the same time people won't want to say about how they're racist fascist problematic leave voters. It's gonna be a dead heat.
Who else showed faith in based Trump?
>>72981124
A true English specimen.
God save him.
>>72980958
I dont think anyone would call you extreme for those things surely
Unless you want 99% tax and a world NHS or something crazy
>>72980774
Does it give you a dropdown box, or try to guess based from IP ranges or something?
>>72981211
BEEDY EYED MASTER RACE
>>72980804
Come at me chum
>>72981192
"Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production."
Fuck when did the SNP do that? What do the people control since they've came to power?
The SNP aren't anywhere near socialist.
>>72981322
The world belongeth to us.
>Nige will never buy you your first legal pint
Why even live?
>>72981228
Ive got a tenner on him
The odds are no good now though, I could of got 15:1 at one point but pussied out
>>72981330
الله أكبر
>>72981228
You Brits have an app for betting? It looks sort of multipurpose.
Can anyone explain to the barbaric slav what is going on?
>>72980691
>why would you repeat those kinds of inflammatory comments?
>because they're right
Blown the fuck out for all eternity.
>>72980691
>women
>understanding religion
>understanding politics
Why is it so rare to find one that understands these things?
>>72980691
They're all dullards, jesus christ.
>>72981124
>mfw I have swam drunk in that fountain
i am degenerate
also lizzy vaid a qt
>>72981505
>Smiling the entire time
I love this man.
>>72981563
Local elections soon.
>>72981518
Oh wait, the land of the free cant gamble at whim on literally anything? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>72981518
Every other ad on tv is for fucking betting app thqfh
>>72981460
Stole my meme off the_farage lad
>>72981518
There are loads of bookmakers over here and they all offer all sorts of gimmicky shit to get you hooked.
>>72981563
City council, Police Commissioner, Scotland/Wales/N. Ireland Parliaments/Assemblies and London Assembly elections. Nothing important but a good chance for political change.
>>72981611
are man nige
>>72981020
>no longer will we be able to return to the dark days of majority rule
Minority rule in london would be whites.
>>72981226
I think people are more likely to bluster about leaving than be afraid, but you're right. I'm voting leave, but I expect remain to scrape the win and there to be as much butthurt as there was in the Scot referendum.
>>72981020
But British white is already a minority in London. And I'm not sure voting for the Rothschild married Jew is a better option. I'm voting for the Pigeon anyway.
>tfw you will never walk around dreary old London and banter with Farage over Shitskins.
Although I am seeing Trump later this May so I guess I can't bitch.
Lets make sure Labour don't get in in London.
Then this year is really looking up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsuAbTTsV8
>>72980513
Cool your jets there Ahmed don't you have an airport to bomb or something?
>>72981699
Nah I stole it directly off @Nigel_Farage. No stale stolen memes in my thread.
>>72981750
still better than the US though
>>72981746
The man can even eat crisps Britishly
>>72981596
Ann Coulter is pretty rad
But for the British, it's like finding a quality post on /b/
>>72981700
So, in a society now are dominating Eurosceptics or pro-EU forces?
>>72981892
and a mister whippy
>>72981877
It's a containment policy senpai
Would you "fuck" Nicky?
>>72981996
Difficult to say. Polling on the EU is pretty much 50/50, with a tiny lead for leave and a lot of people saying "don't know". Our main left-wing party is probably going to lose a lot of seats tomorrow, though.
>>72982045
"containment"
Lads, let's confuse these Yankees by speaking in top noch Londoner banter speak, yes?
>>72982045
This. Also... White Americans are spread out. Plenty of us live hundreds of miles away from any population with under 90% whites.
I am not justifying it but there is some context to be had.
>>72981659
You're lucky you don't have natives like we do, those drunks soak up a hell of a lot of the gambling rights.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72981192
>and yours.
Not really, assuming you mean Holyrood [since there is no English parliament]
45% of the vote yielding 53% of seats is reasonably close to proper representation [over-representation, but not grossly so.], Especially when you're dealing with Blair's 35/55 for comparison.
They're grossly over-represented at Westminster thanks to a voting system which was kept thanks to a referendum held on the matter rejecting change. Even then they're only over-represented if you think results should be proportional to national voteshare instead of representing individual FPTP elections. [Personally, I'll take as a given 50%/95% is hilariously laughably "This is the example teachers will use for a generation when advocating PR" disproportionate.]
>>72982059
I know a man who would
>>72981877
>Almost 10% of Leeds is mixed race
Not surprised, I've been to Leeds once or twice and I was kinda shocked with the amount of blonde white women holding hands with niggers
>>72982119
Pretty comfortably white where I'm at
>>72982174
Can't believe she got that breast reduction to be "taken more seriously", Merkel didn't bother with that pish
>>72982159
I have to give the feather shits one thing. I can win a lot more often at an Indian casino compared to a kike ran "white" Casino.
>>72981275
It knows your national IP ala /pol/, but you have to fill in the region name yourself.
>>72982199
kek
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72982222
stay mad
Anyone been over to calais recently? I went over at the start of the year and the migrants were roaming around all over the place, i cant immagine its gotten much better.
Binned the poll card lads
can I turn up without to vote to make Britain great again?
>>72981930
>Ann Coulter
>Not fucking retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJGi110hIzQ
Shalom.
>>72982449
Yes, you just need to tell them your name and address when you get there.
>>72980804
>>72981221
>>72981587
>>72981596
>>72981598
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebGMfrpWORU
>>72982449
yes but you have to bring photo id
>>72982199
Natalie looks like she can't contain her excitement at all. It's almost scary to be honest.
Sturgeon looks like she's doing that intrigued face old women do when they're getting attention from someone they refer to as "Young Man" even when the guy's in his 30-40s. Actually, that man is probably usually Ed.
Leanne looks like she's bashfully turning away because of how odd it is a girl from the valleys gets to meet someone from the big city like the failure of an opposition:Ed Miliband.
>>72982449
as long as you are registered to vote you can vote
>>72982273
Yeah, as the saying goes, especially in Vegas, "The House always wins".
>>72982059
Would you "fuck" Natalie?
>>72980134
needy scruba
>>72982468
>Bill Maher vs Ann Coulter
Truly a battle of intellectual Titans of our time. Jesus fucking wept for the future of mankind.
>>72982494
>>72982538
>>72982531
Thanks chums
>>72979780
>tories
>right wing
Oh I am laffin
We should appease the SNP by getting rid of Trident by using it on Scotland.
>>72982473
hello comrade
>>72982771
>appease the SNP by getting rid of Trident by using it on Scotland
You will never be in a room with Nige and Izzy, why even live?
>>72979344
fuck off Reddit. The_donald is the worst thing to happen to /pol/
>>72981996
Establishment is still totally pro EU but the people are really starting to doubt
Most people I know are very unsure about being out or in and alot are determined to leave
I havnt met someone who is firmly voting in yet (excepting students obviously)
>>72982498
2:50 woman clapping after some red-haired uggo disses the greatest pillar of western civilisation
>>72982531
I miss Ed.
Corbyn isn't fun.
>>72982624
Pre-empting the next question, Wood is mine. Hands off.
>>72981877
Why do brits love posting this? nobody else posts it but you, not even australia. Just trying to civil here. Besides your on the same road just a different point.
Has Farage ever mentioned Trump at all? Good or Bad?
>>72982645
No, it's clips of her shitting the bed. Who else is onscreen is irrelevant.
Why is brit/pol/ so safe from newfags and redditors? Is it because they don't have the attention span to care about proper generals?
Probably my favorite general to browse next to /sg/.
>>72982999
It helps to ease the pain
>>72979780
And fuck you too. We voted to stay in the United Kingdom, shove your independence up your arse cunt.
God save the Queen.
>>72982880
>wanting /pol/ to go onto reddit and trigger them
>somehow being part of reddit ruining /pol/
>>72982969
Ed was highly memeable
>>72983058
He hasn't mentioned him at all
Back in December some news reporter asked him what he though of Trump's muslim ban, he replied that perhaps this would be the end of Trump's campaign but didn't explicitly condemn it
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
I can vote in local elections even though I'm a Pole without British citizenship.
>>72979122
FUCK YOU, FUCK BREXIT AND MOST OF ALL FUCK YOUR MEME PARTY AND IT'S POSH, EX-STOCK MARKET TRADER, CLOWN LEADER.
Thank you for reading.
>>72983082
here's a (you) to help ease it.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72983188
I still don't know why he was in a bus.
>>72983278
These lefty tossers are getting mad over the Fabulous Farage and I'm just like
>>72983192
>>72983058
Not entirely true. While he made a step to raise an eyebrow at the Muslim ban, Farage has come around and has openly endorsed Trump as the best leader for UK relations in modern history.
>>72983188
I miss him, /pol/.
>>72983278
>3rd largest part
>not as posh as the cons
>Farage was a commodities trader not stock
>>72983438
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/649917/Nigel-Farage-backs-Donald-Trump-race-Whitehouse
Someone give me a layman's summary of this. Is UKIP gonna win some seats? Is a muslim really gong to be the Mayor of London?
>>72983119
I bet you always talk about how remain voters are sucking the EU's dick
And then go on to bend over all lubed up for inbred Lizzy's feminine German cock.
>>72979122
Voting UKIP here in local English council election.
If I was in London I'd vote Tory tactically to keep the Labour Islamist fucker out.
>>72983082
(You)'s to ease crippling Anglo depression. Shhh, don't worry, lad. UKIP will win, UKIP will win. Britain will rule the waves once again. Don't worry.
Who /labour/ here.
>>72983603
No
Probably but he's not a fundamentalist or anything, seems pretty chill
>>72983397
>>72983502
>TFW your milipede collection is irelivent
>>72983278
Craig Mackinlay aka "rare pepe" is not South Thanet's MP. he is token eurosceptic and probably homo as well :DD.
>>72983692
You are mate.
Any of you chaps know if there will be any live coverage of this stuff? I'm thinking brillo tier?
>>72983761
The #Milifandom will never die.
>>72979244
>Europe
>Victory
Those words do not belong in the same sentence. Let me correct this for you:
>United States, please save us again!
>>72982059
You mean wee Jimmy Krankee
>>72983599
>>72983603
Likely to gain a few seats from Labour, not sure how much they'll affect the overall split with the conservatives.
As for Sadiq Khan, he's a man with friends in ISIS who called moderate integrated muslims UNCLE TOMS
>>72983841
>>72983841
Britain needs communism tbqhwyl.
>>72979122
who /justfinishedcanvassing/ here?
>>72983905
Doubt it mate, its only the local elections not exactly the most interesting thing in the world
>>72983692
Corbyn is the worst thing to happen to the left in years.
>Come to power on the promise of being the FULL SOCIALISM COMRADES candidate
>Immediately shit it and go back to Miliband's policies "m-maybe this will appease them"
>Instead, what were once policies that could reasonably be attacked from the left for being laughably moderate and pointless ["what would you change in the chancellor's last budget" "nothing"] are now portrayed as though you've lifted them directly from the communist manifesto, pushing the 'centre ground' even further rightwards.
>>72984073
who /neverstoppedcanvassing/ here?
>>72983705
Bollocks. He's a front man.. Ever hear of Taqiya?
>>72984014
Please refer to my posted picture for evidence of her shapely legs and sexy high heels thanks
>>72984141
While I'm dumping pictures of British achievement here's a feel
>tfw you didn't drop a tenner on the 5000-1 odds Leicester would win the league
>>72983604
> vote for independence
> give control to Brussels
> bring in 20,000 refugees
> remove trident losing 100's of jobs and their supporting companies
> complain about contract for new frigates time scale
> actually wants no frigates.
> wants to close down world leading shipyards at rosyth
On and on and on
You snp are a joke, you all watch braveheart but your policies turn the country into a fuckfest with no national identity other than "muh oil and tourism".
You lost now be a man and accept it instead of campaigning for referendum after referendum till you get your way like a fucking child
>>72983692
Comrade Cuckbyn pls go
>>72983058
He endorsed Rand Paul back when he was running.
#VoteRemain
#HopeNotHate
#RefugeesWelcome
#Labour
>>72984206
goodlad
good luck tomoz m8
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72983692
I support Corbyn and the left in Labour but won't vote for any Blairite careerist scum. We'll have to wait for Momentum to kick them all out. Until then Greens, Respect, Take Back the City.
who /voting UKIP tomorrow/ here?
This will be the third time I've crossed them off on a ballot paper. Better whip up my morning routine of listening to Rule Britannia, Land of Hope and Glory and I Vow To Thee My Country as I walk to my polling booth on the way to work.
>>72984279
>HELL YESH IM TUFF ENUS
>>72979122
NO! Don't vote out Labour! They are a force for good in the UK!
Check it out:
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/14/eu-referendum-jeremy-corbyn-to-say-uk-should-vote-to-remain-in-t/
>Jeremy Corbyn tells Labour voters: I don't think too many EU migrants have come to Britain
>The Labour leader said: "I don't think too many have come I think the issue is wages and regulations as I said in my speech. Hence the agency workers issue I raised in my speech and the minimum wage that I raised in my speech."
You NEED visionaries like this man! Your enrichment depends on it! Keep Labour in power!
>>72984254
God save the Queen mate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_innovations_and_discoveries
>>72984384
#VoteLeave
#HateNotHope
#FuckOffWeAreFull
#UKIP
>>72984147
To be fair it's mostly the rest of the Blairite shitebags in the party that are the problem. He knows he can't actually push the ideas he wants and was fucking voted in by the labour membership in the first place for, or he'll be backstabbed by Andy Burnham and co.
You already see the knives coming out any time anything remotely controversial comes up.
>>72984254
>>72984147
It's beautiful
>>72984447
>List_of_British_innovations_and_discoveries
m8 I don't want to download 700 terabytes of text.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72984304
>remove trident losing 100's of jobs
This is the dumbest argument for keeping Trident. Cost-to-job ratio it's hilariously inefficient.
[SNP policy would also replace it with an independent Scottish naval base, so the level of job losses is overstated.]
> wants to close down world leading shipyards at rosyth
Kek no. It would be politically infeasible for an SDF to procure ships form anywhere but Rosyth.
The other points I really don't care about "Trident for muh jobs" is laughably silly. You could cut every worker involved a cheque for a million quid and be left with money to spare.
>>72984404
Honestly I'm voting for Cannabis is Safter than Alcohol tommorow given the amount of liberals running with supposedly left-wing parties.
>>72984304
I'm not SNP I'm a green :')
>Remove trident losing jobs
Oh however could we replace them with all the money we saved in not having trident. You could literally pay twice the amount of people to stand around doing fuck all if you wanted and still save money.
>muh oil and tourism
It's not my fault you're ashamed to be scottish and have no national identity yourself.
I hope you Brits leave the EU. It's such a preposterous joke of an organization. In what fucking world does allowing one central authority to control the economy and border policies of over 20 nations with vastly different languages, economies, and lifestyles?
As a burgerclap the EU just perplexes me, it's beyond me how any joke was allowed to get that big.
>>72984651
> implying Scotland would have a respectable military after independence
Stop it. I can only read so much disgusting traitorous filth in one sitting
Voting in the election tomorrow.
Going vote for Zach purely because I don't want a poo in loo as our mayor.
>>72984755
Fucking cuck
Can't be bothered voting but if I did I'd probably vote ukip for the keks
>>72984517
>>72984509
And that's a net positive for the rest of us, especially when considering the open conflict in the not-conservative party - both parties are locked in deadly gridlock and civil war, while the only parties that could, operative COULD, take advantage of this would be the SNP, Greens and UKIP.
Except nobody cares about the Greens, the SNP is losing steam, and UKIP has consistent positive polling on a voterbase of a minimum 5 million.
And that's not counting everyone who would've voted if they thought UKIP could win (and if they did, would have led to UKIP becoming the largest party in the entire country) so voted for someone else.
>>72984354
>ITT: the usual knuckle-dragging, right-wing swivel-eyed loons and turkeys voting for Christmas.
Go suck a rich upper-class dick, you corporate cuck.
>>72979780
>Scots vote to remain in the union despite overwhelming support from England for them to leave
>this is somehow England's fault
Good to know nothing changes. Keep blaming everyone else for your mistakes, it's that mentality that keeps you irrelevant.
>>72984899
i love this woman
>>72984780
It started as something benign.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72984810
I'm implying no such thing.
It would be a token joke army. It doesn't NEED a proper army. (Just across the sea lies iceland; the GIUK gap is so strategically important that Iceland has no army and relies entirely on NATO.)
But it would have a few boats, which would need a base, which would be Faslane.
>>72984755
I'm British born in Scotland and so are you.
Where does it end? I hope you get your independence, then I hope Shetland leaves and takes its waters with all their oil with them.
You guys are living a fantasy world where Scotland was conquered by England. Read your history moron, we are the United Kingdom, one of the most powerful and influential countries in the world and your shitty generation wants to destroy that because you watched an Australian shout freedom
>>72984982
nice ad hominem my left-wing friend.
>>72984982
>look at how intelligent and know more than all of you dimwitted right wingers. Liberal thinking is the ultimate intellectual sophistry :^)
>>72984902
>Double taxes on Televisions
>>72984711
It's all pretty much a protest vote anyway given the way the main parties have sewn up the electoral system.
>>72979122
What exactly is this vote about? It's tomorrow right? I have a card somewhere but I don't follow politics.
>>72984982
>Wanting a permanent, controllable left-right schism easily controllable by the buddying figures in parliament
>Wanting a radical left that follows the destruction of national culture, pride and dignity with a glint in their eye and slobber dripping from the jaw
>Wanting mission creep, like with feminism and racial activism and identitarianism
I'd rather vote for Christmas than vote for an eternal hell.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72984899
>muh tax
That's right, pay tax so Fatty McFat can have her third stomach staple on the NHS while our veterans die homeless on the streets.
>>72984902
Requiring ID to buy council houses?
I'm OK with this.
>>72984949
True, but the ease at which the SNP will win a majority is the basis for their very average manifesto. They're not even trying, they can just pretend to be left wing but change fuck all.
They don't need to take advantage of it so they're not, but at least in the lefties I know everyone is sick of them saying one thing and doing nothing. If the greens can hold them to account and have some balls about it I can see them becoming a major player in scottish politics
>>72979410
Thanks, Mr. Nige.
>>72984902
>do nothing about young people
probably for the best
>>72979410
Thanks mr nige
>>72985109
You want to leave the uk, then give your law making powers to Belgium and Germany and put your safety in the hands of the US entirely.
So much faggotry
>>72985181
I genuinely think we're different as a people to most of England. Specifically the south. Why should we share a parliament when we agree on nothing.
>>72984902
>Ban Nick Clegg
I'm okay with this
>>72981850
I really hope this and British Grenadiers are played on /pol/ on the 23rd.
>>72984902
>Increase prison sentences for ice cream
Sorry lads.
>>72985109
Daily reminder that only a year ago an EU army was a "right wing conspiracy".
>>72985456
>They're not even trying, they can just pretend to be left wing but change fuck all.
This lefty attack is very silly. Devolution enforces mediocrity. The SNP can change fuck all within the union, that's the nature of devolution.
All the lefty parties are fucking idiots who want to do something stupid like raise tax and "use the powers we have" ignoring that all it will do in the union is send revenue to the UK treasury and not the Scottish parliament. [i.e. by people moving or altering the makeup of their income.]
The SNP exist to get independence, after independence - so the argument goes - they will have the powers to make things better. Until then, calling for more radicalism on their part is a mugs game.
It's like everyone but the SNP in Scotland is politically blind.
>>72984902
>Phase out the minimum wage
>>72985759
Farageposters are animeposters
What a twist
>>72979410
Thanks Mr Nige
>>72984920
itll take ten mins you faggot
Why would you not
>>72985863
Cuckposters hate anime.
Who knew?
>>72985426
>>72985456
I don't know about that. As a party playing to the same rules as the rest in Westminster, they're as vulnerable to the same changes in voter disposition as in the rest of the country.
The SNP have to constantly prove they have gone beyond an average outcome and an average manifesto and have done significantly better than the Big Two, else like you said, they'll risk the issue of people picking up on not doing what they set out to, which makes them just like the Big Two.
>>72984902
>Increase taxes on ice cream
No you fucking don't.
>>72979410
Thanks mr nige
>>72985943
I kind of miss Miliband, the memes were great
>>72985599
Your feelings don't mean shit you retard. Anyone who unironically thinks the SNP offers a viable alternative outside the UK is truly delusional.
"muh oil" - the oil that is half the price that Sturgeon said would mean you'd be financially stable?
"muh pound" - the currency you've been told you won't be allowed to use?
"muh eu" - leaving "English controlled westminster" so you can get the euro and have junckers pencil cock shoved up your arse?
The irony is that rUK literally hates the scots now.
We only argue about you staying because we actually feel sorry for you. You spergos always say "why do you fight so much if we're not helpful" - I'll give you the answer. It's because it's like watching your autistic child have a spaz attack without his spergo helmet on to stop him hurting himself. We have to put it on or we feel dirty and shameful.
>>72985548
I don't want to do anything. I'm making an argument based purely on boats, geography and "muh jobs" here. The conclusions are not in themselves pro-independence, they're just a guess at what independence would actually look like and what constraints/possible advantages it would have
>and put your safety in the hands of the US entirely.
The UK is a NATO member too, and unsurprisingly Scotland is already dependent on them for defence.
The UK is the island state that retired the Nimrod maritime patrol plane without having a replacement ready immediately. [White paper, if memory is right, said they'd start the procurement process for one, so Scotland would likely provide that for itself.]
Favorite seaside town?
>>72985776
I'll be honest here and say I know fuck all about how taxation works for Holyrood. I was under the impression that income tax paid in Scotland went to the HMRC anyway, so only came back to us in the block grant. I thought the point of tax raising powers was that additional tax on top of the UK rate would stay in Scotland. Genuinely curious. Might ask one of the RISE campaigners that will be about tomorrow and see if they have a fucking clue.
Are Nige BTFO??? (I think so)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ssYPBOQ0e8
>>72986056
>tfw I live on a lolis dainty ankle
Truly the Best Country.
>>72985599
>Why should we share a parliament when we agree on nothing.
But you have your own parliament too that handles a large portion of Scottish matters and is constantly getting powers devolved to it.
As for "different people" we're more culturally and economically entwined than you'd like to admit, and unravelling that to allow you to live out your misplaced braveheart fantasies would be ridiculous.
>>72986457
Gosport.
>>72985599
Abandoning hard working people in the north of England because if a border that hasn't mattered for 100's of years.
The problem is Westminster,m and London not England. Wales England Scotland and Northern Ireland, not to mention the overseas territories and even the common wealth all depend on the United Kingdom and her royalty. Scotland is the senior partner in this.
Walking away from that history and commitment would make Scottish people for 200 years in the past shudder at the faggots they've created
>>72986464
Reminder
>scots beg for more tax powers
>more powers given to them
>still not enough apparently
>get tax powers
>don't use them
>finally get round to using them
>propose tax plans that Sturgeon admits will cause Scotland to lose £30m a year
>Scottish deficit keeps on creeping up
>England foots the bill
Gee this sounds like a recurring theme.
Brits are intelligent.
>>72986409
>>72986310
>The oil that is half the price that Sturgeon said would mean you'd be financially stable?
The oil that Salmond lied about industry production numebers.
The oil that wouldn't have been split territorially, but per capita or taken along with the Shetlands.
The oil that, even if prices had stayed at $130, and even if Scotland had taken it all wouldn't have given them a surplus.
That oil
>>72979780
shut it ya soap dodgin cunt
fuckin weegies making the rest of us look bad
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72986457
Tie between Looe and Polperro
>>72981457
Tomorrow belongs to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN7r0Rr1Qyc
>>72986495
He tried to BTFO of Nige so bad, poor guy
>>72986155
>and have done significantly better than the Big Two
They got a referendum that came remarkably close to success considering where it started.
That RISE/Greens have already forgotten this is disturbing. I'm getting a strong suspicion those two are going to try and cause trouble and end up fucking the entire thing up for the SNP.
>>72986310
>half the price that Sturgeon said would mean you'd be financially stable?
Literally everyone got the price wrong by that kind of factor. It's not like she uniquely lied. [Shock, SNP estimates were slightly higher than average! Double shock, even the 'average' was out by a huge degree! because oil is volatile! wowzers!]
>told you won't be allowed to use?
It's already been covered: Sterlingisation is stupid, but you can't stop it.
>"muh eu" - leaving "English controlled westminster" so you can get the euro and have junckers pencil cock shoved up your arse?
Under the current system Scotland is fucked both by Westminster and the EU, independence has the offer of only one cock up your arse.
I'm not even approaching this from being pro-independence. I just hate these trite arguments.
>>72986541
I'd personally be happy with devo max, but it doesn't feel like it's coming. They could have killed any chance of a Yes vote with it if they wanted to, but they didn't. If they didn't do it then, why would they ever do it.
Different people politically. You just have to ask someone in a pub what they think of the Tories to see that people in Scotland don't want anything to do with them.
>>72979780
I'm scottish, the only way to get us to vote out is to promise another independence referendum
>>72979780
>>72986990
So just vote out for now, then you can vote to join the EU and you can happily take in more Turkroaches
JF living in London here, who we voting for tomorrow lads?
Gonna give UKIP my vote and Goldenbergstein my 2nd in the mayor
>>72987108
I'm completely for a brexit, but I don't know anyone who is also. I've been telling people we'll get another referendum even though I voted no
>>72986783
Cornwall is pretty GOAT I tent to hang about Falmouth and the rose pan peninsula during the summer.
>>72986810
>Literally everyone got the price wrong by that kind of factor. It's not like she uniquely lied. [Shock, SNP estimates were slightly higher than average! Double shock, even the 'average' was out by a huge degree! because oil is volatile! wowzers!]
NOT AN ARGUMENT
If you outline a plan post independence on how the economy would work using oil as a major contributor to the economy, you can't just shrug it off when your estimates are around 80% inaccurate.
>It's already been covered: Sterlingisation is stupid, but you can't stop it.
NOT AN ARGUMENT
You have been told you won't get the pound sterling. You either enter a currency that is failing and is designed to fuck you over and favour Germany, or you create a new currency and have all the thousands of problems that come with that.
>Under the current system Scotland is fucked both by Westminster and the EU, independence has the offer of only one cock up your arse.
No, you're not.
You're fucked by the EU. Get the delusion that you're fucked by Westminster out your head. Google the Barnett formula. You have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the UK, retard.
>>72986990
Can we get another referendum if you guys are successful and vote yes to independence?
New thread lads?
>>72986933
Do you think that large portions of London should break off as a separate country? Manchester? Liverpool? The Northeast? All of these vote similarly to pre-SNPcancer Scotland.
>>72986464
>income tax paid in Scotland went to the HMRC anyway, so only came back to us in the block grant
This is true.
> I thought the point of tax raising powers was that additional tax on top of the UK rate would stay in Scotland.
This was true, but new powers don't work that way:
https://www.gov.uk/scottish-rate-income-tax/how-it-works
But this doesn't mean you can raise taxes, because:
A) There's no practical border between Scotland and England, you can just move south. This isn't a problem with independence, but is a massive problem with devolution.
B) Small business types can just cut their own wages below the top rate and top them up with other payment methods. This keeps their income tax from going up while leaving their income unchanged and lowering the income of the Scottish government.
>Might ask one of the RISE campaigners that will be about tomorrow and see if they have a fucking clue.
That would be like asking a flat Earther about astrophysics. Ask only for comedy value.
>>72986495
>asking a libertarian if they would be an interventionist
Interviewer is pretty dumb desu.
>>72986933
Democracy is dead. How about getting a Scottish king on the throne instead?
>>72986541
>and is constantly getting powers devolved to it.
Mostly utterly useless ones like income tax.
>>72986689
>Scots beg for actual tax powers
>"Fuck you, you can have income tax."
>Don't bother with it because it's dumb
>Scottish "we're losing anyway lol" Labour promise tax rises just to show off
>SNP have to balance political objectives and leave the top rate static even though it's dumb as fuck
Scotland's deficit is near irrelevant because Scotland is not an independent country, unless we should also keep tabs on the 'deficit' of every other region.
>>72986727
>>72986810
>They got a referendum that came remarkably close to success considering where it started.
Not relevant.
A) Once in a LIFETIME
B) You lost a ONCE IN A LIFETIME
C) Has absolutely no relevance on GOVERNANCE.
>Literally everyone got the price wrong by that kind of factor.
By literally everyone, you mean absolutely no one but the SNP?
Salmond straight out LIED to hell and back about the industrial estimates of OUTPUTS, and then decided that budget should be solely held up by oil!
England, Norn Iron and Wales never said that they would do the same, and lick every puddle of oil off the ground for the sweet sweet dollar.
>WESTMINSTER IS BAD!
So instead of campaigning for a better nationwide parliamentary system, taking your equal share instead of swindling England out of money, and campaigning against your unrepresentative share of Westminster
You want to go and say fuck the actually elected, and say hello Mr Juncker?
Would you be happier if Scotland was ruled by a military governor? It doesn't seem like you care about democracy and whining and bitching about Westminster.
>>72985337
In essence, it is an ultimately correct sentiment.
Democracy only works when the electorate is greatly reduced in numbers, and when there is a mutual obligation between the nation and the electorate.
Think of how glorious the system would be if only taxpayers could vote. (Though personally, I'd limit suffrage further than that)
>Single Mothers can't vote.
>Majority of lefty students can't vote.
>Majority of muslims can't vote.
>>72987719
>>72986457
I've got a childhood love for Dawlish Warren.
>>72987753
Stick within the Overton Window lad
>>72987753
>Democracy on my terms
That's not democracy then you fucking half-wit.
>>72987363
>you can't just shrug it off when your estimates are around 80% inaccurate.
I'm not shrugging it off, I'm saying Sturgeon was not uniquely wrong on that matter. My contention is that you imply she lied with the estimate, not that the estimate being wrong is a very serious issue.
>You have been told you won't get the pound sterling.
No, Scotland was told it would not get a currency union. Unilateral use of Sterling would be impossible to stop.
>You have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the UK, retard.
This would assume I was referring to finance, instead of having a cultural or democratic objection. (As would provide two arguments for a genuine nationalist. Again, my issue is with the trite arguments being played here, I'm not driven by a desire for independence.)
>>72987753
>Single Mothers can't vote.
>Majority of lefty students can't vote.
>Majority of muslims can't vote.
>>72984902
rollin' for queen and country
>>72984780
The road to hell, you know.
I wish you Brits all the best. Hang in there and don't give up. Remember all that's said about learning from failures, if it turns out poorly.
Watching this all.
>>72979410
thanks mr nige
>>72987653
Jan Helfeld himself is a minarchist. Despite his awkwardness I usually like his interviews, but I'll be the first to concede that his encounter with Nigel is completely bizarre. His interview with Bernie Sanders is especially good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I
>>72987753
>2 years national service
>paid x amount of tax (easily achievable through several years hard work) that only rises with inflation and cannot be altered by parliament
>must be british born and if descendant of immigrants at least 3rd gen
i just solved modern democracy
>>72987753
In such a system only property owners should be able to vote. Paying tax alone is meaningless.
>>72987414
>That West Country
Shame Exeter and Bristol ruined it.
>>72987719
>Not relevant.
Yes it is. You want a significant difference from the big 2, then ignore the most significant difference of all.
>A) Once in a LIFETIME
>B) You lost a ONCE IN A LIFETIME
Again, way to miss this line:
>I'm not even approaching this from being pro-independence. I just hate these trite arguments.
I lost nothing.
>C) Has absolutely no relevance on GOVERNANCE.
Implementing a manifesto promise has no relevance in governance.
Everything else seems rooted in the dumbfuck assumption I'm pro-independence, instead of essentially playing devils advocate.
God save the queen and death to Gerry Adams.
>>72987945
>control of an organization or group by the majority of its members.
>The size of the member count makes it more or less democratic.
Fuck off.
>>72987399
NEW THREAD PLS
>>72987363
You literally can't stop another country using the pound, anyone can trade it however the fuck they want. You don't need a fucking licence jesus christ.
>>72987414
If you want and feel like you'd be a viable standalone country go for it friendo
how many of you lads are voting in council elections tomorrow?
how fucked am I on a scale of 1-10
>>72988151
I wouldn't begrudge you that. However, I'm not entirely sure I follow what the difference would be in the outcome..
>>72988144
>must be british born and if descendant of immigrants at least 3rd gen
3rd generation immigrants are the most alienated of the bunch, though.
>>72988467
2 years of national service would soon sort that.
>>72984902
>oi bin that ice cream
>>72984902
Abolish the BBC sound pretty good if you ask me
>>72988089
>>72988018
>I'm saying Sturgeon was not uniquely wrong on that matter
Still not an argument.
When the political policy UNIQUELY relies on balancing the budget with oil revenues, and that is THE central economic and budgetary policy, of course it matters when your leader inflates estimates not just beyond average, but beyond reliable industry estimates!
>Unilateral use of Sterling would be impossible
Mint release new note, all old now collected, replaced and destroyed.
Sterling mints in Scotland are destroyed or repatriated.
Congrats, you're now reliant on incoming UK sterling filtering in like sweat drops, just like Zimbabwe is on the dollar, and have to spend oil trying to buy reserves from other countries at extreme jacked up rates
Are you really this stupid
>>72988388
Jesus wept that's fucking dire. I'm guessing you're in the North West?
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