but 90%+ actually are wage slaves and work for the capitalist elites, often 2 or more jobs until they die. Capitalist societies are ruled by a few dozen rich families.
Socialism at least never says people should have freedom and instead provides people with ONE job without psychological pressure and fear of a future of joblessness. Socialist societies are ruled by a few dozen of hardcore party networkers.
You're ignoring the funniest part, which is that you're not even free to kill yourself. It's fucking illegal, they will force you to live and try to get you to a point where you can work.
>>72973243
Capitalist Germany still puts suicide on the list of punishable crimes. The GDR never did that.
Sign me up OP socialism is the only way to real individual freedom. Capitalism makes oppression of people too damn easy.
Tearing down the Berlin Wall was a mistake, you East German cucks should never have been given freedom.
>>72972873
Ziss iss tdrue. But do you really want black people and spics to have a ton of money? I certainly dont. I hire only white people at my company
>>72972873
Why don't you flee to a communist country?
Let me also remind you:
Communism is anti-white.
Capitalism
>love in wealthy middle class neighborhood
>white
>peacful
>good job from hard work
>enjoying the fruits of my labor
Meanwhile is socialism
>food lines
>poverty
>government censorship
>very very tiny elite live good lives
I'll enjoy capitalism
>>72972873
This. Socialism is the way. We may disagree on which orientation, if left or right, but socialism is far better than wagecuckery and its fake freedom sense.
Pic sorta related
>>72973688
>Why don't you flee to a communist country?
Because there are no German communist countries and I am a patriot and a socialist.
Why don't you flee to a capitalist country in Africa, such as Somalia?
>>72973856
>food lines
>poverty
>government censorship
>very very tiny elite live good lives
You're blupilled about socialism
>>72974112
>what is Venezuela
There is no socialist country that looks like this
>>72974112
hes right mussolini
>>72974895
This is a dying thread literally no reason to post it
>>72974246
>>what is Venezuela
What is cucked bluepilled Americans?
Food lines exist in capitalist shitholes as well... no, wait, in capitalist shitholes people just starve while the elites are obese. Great shit, no? You do know close to 1 billion people worldwide, due to our great capitalist society, are starving right as we speak? I am sure they all love trickle down, worldwide, capitalist economics.
>>72975110
Don't you understand? It was a thinly veiled stealth bump.
>>72975482
1 billion people are starving because 3rd worlders were poor to begin with, and they have tons of children
Show me an example of starving Westerners. In America, you can be arrested if your kids are starving
>>72975482
>most hungry people are on uncapitalistic shitholes
>blame capitalism
Communist, everyone.
>>72975762
>1 billion people are starving because 3rd worlders were poor to begin with, and they have tons of children
They weren't starving by 1 billion at a time before global capitalism took over 200 years ago, did they?
>>72975762
>Show me an example of starving Westerners.
Hand me a link of starving GDR citizens.
>>72975954
>>most hungry people are on uncapitalistic shitholes
>>blame capitalism
Name one country in Africa which isn't capitalist and has starving people. I challenge you.
>>72973856
Meanwhile is socialism
>food lines
>poverty
>government censorship
>very very tiny elite live good lives
I lived in socialism and it was very comfy life(born in communist Poland).
Even 45% of former solidarity members said in poll that communism was better.
>>72975482
>no, wait, in capitalist shitholes people just starve while the elites are obese
tell me one capitalist shithole.
>>72973243
They arent watching you 24/7, if you wanna go jump off a bridge/blow your brains out they probably wont be able to stop you.
>>72976487
>tell me one capitalist shithole.
Brazil
>>72976487
>tell me one capitalist shithole.
Ok, here are 50.
>>72976487
India
>>72976487
>tell me one capitalist shithole.
USA
>>72976067
Zimbawe is literally being run by a communist asking whites to come back because blacks though it better to eat the seeds they had to plant?
>>72976694
Let's prohibit new competitors in industries where government has companies land?
>>72972873
>Slave because you have to work
Killoneself
communism so good people would risk getting shot to escape it
>select all the food
>>72976908
>>72976815
>Zimbawe is literally being run by a communist asking whites to come back because blacks though it better to eat the seeds they had to plant?
It is still capitalist. Read about it.
>>72976991
>>72972873
Wage slave is an oxymoron.
>>72976816
>>Slave because you have to work
>Killoneself
You don't know what a wage slave is? You must be a seriously blue pilled wage slave! Good job, Norway!
>>72972873
Get back to work.
>>72977064
behold the great workers' paradise
>>72972873
Only petulant children wake up in the morning wondering what the world's going to do for them.
real talk
>>72976703
>Angola
>Capitalist
Stopped reading there
>>72976694
>brazil
>capitalist
retard
>>72976703
>africa
as i thought. some of these even have communist symbols on flag, africa is not capitalist.
>>72976746
not capitalist either, just use google
>>72976816
He did.
Guys, communism doesn't work because humans don't want to help some random hobo who can't be bothered to get off his ass.
Welfare is fine, but trust me when i say that communism doesn't work, because if there is no egocentric reason to work, then why do it?
Not everyone shares your utopian world view. Most people are in it for themselves.
Pic related, it's the people who want communism.
>>72976703
>zimbawe
>capitalist
>djibouti
>capitalist
>eritrea
>capitalist
>like half of those
>capitalist
When it fails, it's all capitalism.
>>72976996
Read about what? The still occurring nationalization, economic tribalism, and massive minutae control of both cash flows and businesses?
>>72977078
But anon, if you don't get free shit so you can do whatever makes you happy, you are slave to something.
>>72972873
t. berniebot
>>72977638
India is a pure form of capitalism. Mind to explain why are they such great country?
>>72973856
>>72974112
>>72974246
RE Socialism can work if a country brings in enough income on the international market.
This is done through trading manufactured goods, technological innovations and valuable products etc.
>>72977649
>When it fails, it's all capitalism.
There you go, now you understand. You do know what capitalism is, right? It is a system based on money purchases for goods and services.
Again, are you seriously saying that Zimbabwe, Dijbouti, Eritrea etc. are not capitalist systems were money rules?
>>72973688
Because countries that actually exist aren't real capitalism.
>>72977351
>as i thought. some of these even have communist symbols on flag, africa is not capitalist.
Uhhhhh, some countries have communist symbols "on flags". Damn, they must be communist, you know, they got that flag!
Pic related, m8, pic related.
>>72973978
>Why don't you flee to a capitalist country in Africa, such as Somalia?
not him but I wouldn't because I have better choices.
Death to the reds! Better dead than red.
Sage
>Communist: Capitalism is wrong! It's inhuman!
>Capitalist: Can I have the shirt off your back?
>Communist: No, it's mine...
>Capitalist: How naturally capitalistic of you.
COMMIES STUMPED
>>72978171
>It is a system based on money purchases for goods and services.
Are you this retarded? Capitalism has nothing to do with "money"
Capitalism is simply an emergent feature of a society that respects personal property, if the government can take your farm because you're white (or rich) it's not capitalism even if there's currency
>>72978359
>implying Austrian coat of arms is representing the same as this
10/10
>>72977638
Communist 2.0 at the age of the machines ?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheqZdysK_Y
>>72972873
you see homeless people dont you? you have the freedom to not get a job. stop trying to live the good life without working the grind stone. thats communist as fuck kielballah
>>72972873
Lmao, germans still mad 70 years after the fact. God bless America. I hope I get to see the day when the US dollar is used in Berlin.
>>72972873
Capitalism is fine but working hours need to be reduced. Increase pay, reduce hours, and hire more people for more shifts.
>>72978171
That's not the definition of capitalism, and money rules in all communities (just ask nunneries, the Amish, and the bedouin) because having more resources is generally something people consider good. If that was the definition of capitalism, everything is capitalist no matter what it is.
>>72972873
>Capitalism = global mega corporations that are operating in coalition with government
pls anon
>>72977978
India is horrible, but it has potential.
Suffers from horrible overpopulation, which is the big killer for India imo. also....
POO IN LOO FFS
>>72972873
East Germans are the most based Germans, I'm sorry the west decided to rape you now. Enjoy your "freedom" and Arab cock
>>72979062
>capitalism is fine but I want to regulate it more
>also I think people should be wealthier :^)
Just vote bernie already
>>72972873
This.
Capitalism is just empty promises.
>>72979208
Who do you think are the ones voting for mass immigration in general? is it the conservatives or is it the leftists?
>>72977978
Hinduism and caste system.
If you are starving in the street its because you were a bad person in your previous life, so you deserve it.
>>72979402
If you are below average in effort and capacity, yes.
You are not going to become wealthy by not doing anything, and capitalism has never promised you anything else.
>>72979062
That only makes economic sense if there wasn't a fix cost per employ as there is now.
>>72979120
Overpopulation is a meme. What India needs to do is liberalize and destroy its horrendous bureaucracy which hampers everything.
>>72973978
>patriot and socialist
>>72972873
Kill yourself.
>>72978682
>Capitalism has nothing to do with "money"
You like retarded?
"Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit."
>>72979003
>you see homeless people dont you?
we didn't have any homeless people until SJWs fucked up our wall and brought in Coca Cola.
Fucking American CIA agents who staged this shit. Fuck them.
>>72974246
Venezuela was going to shit since the neoliberal 80s. Chavez actually made a few improvements.
>>72975954
Capitalism in many cases doesn't allow for economic freedom in exploited countries. Look at Haiti.
>>72972873
if you use the term wage slave unironically you deserve a trip to German Nazi concentration and extermination camp™
>>72980682
>Haiti.
Lulzy.
>>72972873
The answer to the global problems of our time isn't socialism. We simply need better capitalism.
Burgers are working on it, and if Trump actually delivers there are going to be manufacturing jobs that pay well above current minimum wage and well enough to start a family.
>>72976815
Mugabe calls himself a Marxist but does virtually nothing to support that claim. He's filthy rich. Even Stalin did more and lived more simply.
>>72972873
Just got a $65K a year job in my field as a writer, thanks entirely to capitalism. I did some freelance work for them, and they decided to bring me on full time. It's not the highest pay, but there's actual room to grow. It was based entirely on my efforts, the fact that I demonstrated value, and that they had the means to pay a salary and benefits.
In a socialist society, I wouldn't have had this chance.
>>72980682
That's a load of bullshit. Haiti wasn't exploited anymore than the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, or Aruba. Their economic mishaps are entirely the fault of their people and their constant attempts at redistributing land, wealth, and jobs.
>>72981134
He being rich is incidental to his Marxist policies. It's a given that th absolute leader will decide he needs to live nicely if your political system makes him responsible for distributing th wealth around.
>>72981298
>Just got a $65K a year job in my field as a writer, thanks entirely to capitalism.
So, I make 250k Euros a year. Still think capitalism is shit.
>>72981691
>Euros.
Enjoy your fail, Eurofag.
>>72972873
>wageslave
>real slave
retarded faggetkraut
>>72981691
Sure thing bro
I make at least six gorillion a year and I think capitalism is A-ok
>>72981691
That's fine. Think whatever you like. But unless you have a government job, you never would have gotten to where you are without it.
>>72972873
Just read books and start a buissnes you lazy fuck
>>72972873
Capitalism says nothing of freedom in any sense other than freedom to make financial decisions.
>>72972873
Hunter gatherers say people have freedom, but 90% actually are hunting and gathering slaves and work the same job until they die. And they have no free health care.
>>72972873
capitalism will evolve to basic income when automated machinery and AI take over
in the very long run of this progress, people will only become consumers in the grand scheme
>>72978613
"Hi, I don't understand the systems I oppose."
>>72975482
Even the homeless and jobless don't starve in the US. All of the countries in which the most people are poor are usually poorly governed, i.e. undemocratic, no civil liberties.
>>72973377
You can move to [insert south american shithole] anytime, faggot. Let us know how awesome socialism is after a few years, if you live that long.
>in capitalist countries, poor people are fat
>in communist countries, poor people starve to death
hmm which is better for the poor
>>72975482
If you starve in a capitalist society, you had no business living in the first place, maggot.
>>72972873
>Socialism at least never says people should have freedom
Do you get your information on socialism from Cold War-era comic books?
>>72982731
>malthusians and luddites will never lose hope they'll be put in charge so they can avert disaster
>>72983087
>All of the countries in which the most people are poor are usually poorly governed, i.e. undemocratic, no civil liberties.
So you want the state to provide for people... as in socialism?
