What killed space travel?
Shitskins and jews.
Poor people and identity politics
>>72952877
Nasa's Muslim outreach program
Jews.
i'm too scared to even get on a plane, you expect me to want to goto space. no thanks
SJW's bitching about shirts.
>>72952877
Laws of physics.
>>72952877
My sick rhymes
>>72952877
The Great Society.
>>72952877
Cost
>>72952877
White people.
Uber
>>72953115
Dont worry, you'll be unconscious in 15 seconds and dead in about 120. It's a quick death.
>>72952877
The fact that it's all fake.
![220px-Orion_pulse_unit[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/av3HR5n.png "220px-Orion_pulse_unit[1].png")
>>72952877
nuclear weapons treaties. If it weren't for them, right now we'd be traveling at 5% light speed.
>>72952877
The lack of anything of value to be found in the empty void of space
>>72952877
The realization that any colony attempt would have to be "diverse".
NASA having to start a colony with Adam and Eve. Except Eve was born Bob but SJWs didn't let them discriminate.
Space is not for sausage jockeys.
>>72953546
And I thought japanese people were smart
>>72952877
all the smart Nazi scientists died off taking their knowledge with them. Literally at first the U.S. tried to have them give us the instructions of how to build the rockets and we did and then every test failed. So then the U.S. tried just letting the former Nazi's build the rockets 100% and viola we ended up on the moon a few decades later.
>also there's no profit in space for the Jews they make more money on war so we stopped reaching for the skies and starting funding an insanely large military industrial complex
>>72953717
What is up there that we could cost-effectively exploit with current technology? Please educate me.
>>72953580
WUZ
>>72952933
Ain't shit out there worth traveling to.
>>72953546
Right? A whole lot of nothing, and dangerous to boot.
>>72952877
The rocket equation.
>>72952877
We have to pay to house and feed nigger
>>72953793
>the human race has already passed its intellectual and industrial peak
>the rest is a long dwindling tail of browner and browner people twiddling with iPhones
kill me
>>72953982
KANGZ
>>72953982
ASSONAUTS
>>72953864
>he thinks the Earth is eternal
>he thinks the Sun is eternal
>he doesn't know about those asteroids filled with precious ores
>he doesn't wanna know the origin of the universe
You're supposed to be smart Japan.
>>72952877
THE ICE AGE!
>>72953982
Sheeeeeeeit
>>72952877
Patent suppression.
>>72953864
>such very small penis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_Resources
>>72954075
Don't worry Japan bro it seems bleak but we can ascend again
Trump will put us on the moon again MAGA and this time we'll take their moon oil or whatever the fuck is up there
>>72952877
Its incompatibility with human life.
The future is robots traveling and mining space and humans controlling our numbers here on Earth and reaping the rewards of the resources brought back to us by the space mining machines.
>>72952877
The fact that it's not profitable or needed. There were always two drivers for any type of exploration or expansion. The ,,I don't want to die'' driver and the ,,I don't want to die poor'' one. There's a third one, the ,,praise of royalty/deity'' driver, but religion is dead in the west and royalty doesn't even exist anymore.
The only space exploration done, be it the Soviet cold war project or the American cold war project, fell under the ,,I don't want to die'' category.
>>72953125
Those cunt's should fucking hang!
>>72953982
GADZ
>>72952877
Increase of the welfare state and consumerism.
>>72952877
realism
>>72953864
yet? Nothing. It'll take huge investments and decades of R&D before we can cost effectively gather resources from space.
the research done for space exploration trickles down though. MRIs, advanced fibre reinforced plastics, metal 3D printing, for example.
the military industrial complex killed it. then cloned it and kept the clone in a rape dungeon for a century.
>>72952877
Capitalism.
>>72953158
This is the correct answer.
>>72952877
Paying for 12 million niggers not to work
Paying for 11 million spic not to work
Paying for Europe's defense for 60 years
>>72952877
NASA's funding was fed to the 3rd world and the rest was wasted on blacks and spics.
>>72952877
The nuclear test ban treaties.
>>72954130
You haven't answered my question.
I'm not talking about building the starship enterprise.
I'm asking a question about current reality.
>>72954242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5smPcN8AoE
>>72954075
This is the problem with us /pol/bongs and products of modern society in general here. We think too much and realize things are only getting worse.
Just enjoy the decline ffs. Don't stress about it. Drink and go bang some hot nips. Burn thru that bank account, it's only numbers on a screen anyway.
The Van Allen Radiation Belt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt
Your daily reminder 4chan is the edgy reddit and a poorly disguised honey pot.
>>72952877
>Star Citizen
Is this game finally coming together or was it just an elaborate scam all along?
Much more of country's budgets being spent on the military rather than the space program.
It will never happen, but we need a global space program that is heavily funded by everyone if our plan is to spread humanity around the galaxy instead of dying here.
>>72954242
That nigbitch ate all the food for the hungry anyhow
>>72953864
>this is why the samurai or any asians never became great
>they can't dream
Explains a lot actually when you think about it. If everything is impossible and pointless, there's really no point in innovation or in developing new technology.
It doesn't give immediate results and profit, and takes generations for anyone to see the benefit.
>>72952877
a lack of standardized automated piloting systems.
we're on the brink of a new space age. stay calm.
>>72952877
What killed space travel, was, the American people got bored.
We walked on the moon, drove a car on the moon, built Skylab....Yawn.
Literally, the US viewers were not tuning in.
>>72954480
Shit management just like ninety percent of kickstarters
>>72952877
Physics, biology, and economics.
Lack of a dick measuring contest.
The only thing that spurred us to going to the moon was the space race, Russia got a man in space and Burgerland got all paranoid about the commies spying on us and shit, and the space race ensued. Sort of sad that a glorified somewhat paranoia driven pissing contest was what drove the most advanced space exploration for the time.
>>72952877
Space travel never died. The mistory of manned space exporation makes a lot more sense if you accept that the manned moon program was faked.
We haven't developed a lightweight method of shielding humans from radiation it's as simple as that. Even in low earth orbit there are areas with dangerously high levels of radiation.
>>72954610
>not actually an answer
>>72954430
rage inducing. Send him back to africa if he isn't happy with a society striving to improve itself
>>72954802
Thanks for proving my point.
>>72954629
>and takes generations for anyone to see the benefit
Bullshit, the fruits of the money dumped in NASAs and the soviets space program R&D were available to our society after mere decades.
>>72954160
Fucking kek
>>72954610
Not only that, innovation and experimentation of any kind is evolutionarily risky. That's why it's usually driven by desperation.
>mfw whites are forced to invent warp travel to flee the invasion of third world hordes
>>72954907
And thanks for proving mine, I guess.
although I was rather hoping someone would prove me wrong because I don't want to be right
>>72954207
>muh dick
I thought we were above this
>>72954427
But he did answer your quistion, we should aspire to learn more about the universe around us, we won't know what can be exploited or used until we go and find out, how hard is this to understand? Are you on a proxy? Or some burgerland police deployed in chinkland?
>>72953864
Investments to progress towards a cost-effective gain.
>>72954450
Great, we notice the decline. Now we just have to grab our balls from the deep freeze, organize ourselves and like-minded individuals. Secure what valuable knowledge this civilization has made in the present, and seal it away for the comming dark age.
>>72954802
Don't be salty because he's right.
>>72952877
Space Travel is experiencing a slow renaissance.
Expect some tourism, small moon base and Mars colony within 20 years.
The real boost will be discovery of first truly Earth like planets with biomarkers detected. Telescopes like ATLAST should be able to do it in your lifetime.
Then comes imagining them.
It will be a real booster and motivation to see pixel sized photos of planets with biosphere visible on the continents.
>>72954928
I'm really hoping the EM drive (memedrive) turns out to work because if we had a propulsion system other than chemical rocketry, it would be a total game changer and we could actually think about harvesting asteroids and all the associated riches.
Massive solar arrays powering EM drives would be an engineering feat of monumental proportions but it would be a workable system as opposed to trying to fly around with chemical rocketry and the associated huge fuel tanks
The demoralization of the west. Science has slowed down in general because on a subconscious level most scientific types see no hope for the future.
>>72955379
What's the news on the mEMe drive anyway? haven't heard shit about for a while now.
>>72955371
I feel like your time line is a tad optomistic. When you say tourist trips to even just the moon in 20 years, I feel like we are talking about something that only very wealthy people will be able to do at that point, in my lifetime, I could buy that, but 20 years seems like more of a rather exclusive ordeal.
>>72954822
Ffuhkuh ain't got no gibs me dats
>>72955499
>>72955379
NASA has confirmed that it does produce thrust even though it shouldn't not really any news since that end of last year
>>72952877
liberal left
>>72955635
shit, really? you got a source for the NASA confirmation?
>>72955140
Yes of course we should aspire to it and of course space research has many benefits but the OP specifically mentioned space travel, as in routinely flying people around to the moon and sending them to go die on Mars.
This is where there are extremely diminishing returns.
And "we won't know what is there until we go look" is a somewhat immature way of thinking about space exploration. We don't need to send Matt Damon to Mars with his little bean garden to determine if there is anything useful lying around on the planet.
>>72955379
meh, we could get far enough with ion drives, if we wanted. Just give the guys at JPL, energija and so on the money they need and let them do what they want, without stupid political interference
>>72954430
Literally the black man is keeping us down...on Earth.
>>72955369
>>72955149
>>72955140
But the Nip is right. Surely we'll find a way to destroy one another long before we would ever pull off some great cooperative space project. It's in our nature.
>>72953546
>empty void of space
Makes it easier to find the planets with resources right? Or do you believe Earth is the only planet with metals and other rare elements. Oil would be tricky I guess. But we probably don't need it when we get to this point.
>>72952877
Big government and oil company deals that buy up all alternative fuel sources and then shelve them so that the public at large can only use oil.
I met a mechanic once who had hundreds of racing and driving trophies and there was a picture of him with a bizarre looking car. I asked him what it was and he said it was a nuclear powered car.
Was the smoothest, quietest, and easiest ride he ever had he said. The only problem was that it was instantly bought up by shell and shelved. Apparently the engine would last for so long that the car body could rust to dust and the engine could be transferred to a new body without a hitch.
Moral of the story: big government and big business dealing together impede human progress.
>>72952877
Welfare
>>72955736
it's not sending people to mars that's usefull, it's developing the skillset that makes it possible. Also it has symbolic worth.
>>72955667
you're literally on the internet right now you could have googled it in the time you asked me to do it for you lazy fuck
Space travel will be a thing once we invent an FTL drive. You guys have till the end of this thread to figure out a way to travel faster than the speed of light. GO
>>72954042
>Ain't shit out there worth traveling to.
t. goy
>>72956111
HIGGS BOSON FLUX CAPACITOR
>>72952877
Reapers.
>>72955858
It rains hydrocarbons on Jupiter's moon Titan.
>All these nonsense answers
Duh. The public lost interest in space, like idiots.
We could have colonized the Moon and fucking Mars by now.
>>72955741
Well the thing about the memedrive is that we don't understand the principle behind it and (if it really works) it is currently incredibly inefficient but if we figure out the principle we may find a way to make it far more efficient; like the difference between a vacuum tube computer and a modern integrated circuit, and this would be something truly unprecedented and could open up a new era of human expansion.
Supposedly nasa currently has a detailed report under peer review, I think they mentioned that in March, but said the review would take a long time
Agenda21 killed it.
>>72952877
Mars.
>WE NEED TO GET OUR ASSES TO MARS PRONTO
>SO WHAT IF IT WOULD BE A FINANCIAL DISASTER, YIELDING NO RETURNS OR BENEFIT AND LIKELY RESULTING IN PERSONNEL DEATHS? THERE ARE AYYS AND SHIT THERE!
India has plans to poo in it. Space is now gross.
>>72956205
To bad there's nothing there you could use as oxidizer
>>72952877
No return on investment
>>72953864
>we
Well yea, you are right, it's probably not gonna be us who will benefit from it right now. I guess it's gonna be future generations when we have drained so much from Earth resources. How much Uranium do we have left anyway?
>>72955807
Well yeah that could and most likely will be the case, but his stance was just simply that there was nothing worth a shit out there, and we simply don't know that. And I reject the notion of "let's just not bother because we can't see anything that makes it worth it."
>>72955736
I guess I'm just naive enough to believe in progress simply for the sake of progress and potential discovery in these fields. I guess I get your point on why that causes the death of space exploration, without cause or some sort of potential gain, there's no reason to fund it.
>>72952877
Liberals and SJWs.
>>72953211
Space Niggers.
>>72955858
That's true but we're not going to be successfully harvesting asteroids and mining Ganymede with a space shuttle.
>>72956353
>use a picture of space lesbians from a video game
lmao niggers
>>72954480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpgUuGunU0o
All hands on deck for Squadron 42, so there's not much to see outside of what's in the playable "Baby Persistent Universe" that anybody who backed can play. They're keeping quiet on SQ42 because they're trying to keep a close reign on spoilers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzFcpQTEVAk
If you want to see what's in the game grab a video of the latest version off of youtube or something. You can find Let's Plays of the Baby PU in 2.3 and make decisions for yourself. Game is shaping up but the process has been slow.
>>72955006
This is proof how Japanese people think critically and logically, but literally can't understand the curiosity and adventure that compels the white man.
Either that or you're just a dumb mouth-breathing English teaching faggot.
>>72953211
My sides
>>72956225
an other thing about the memedrive is that, even if it works, it's something that'll take decades to be developed and implemented in a way that's useful. No reason to do nothing in the meantime. Mars, the moons of jupiter and saturn, all in our reach, even with shitty chemical rockets. Even easier/better to reach with ion drives that are available now, and may be further refined in the close future. All you need is better funding and a fat rocket that can lift 100+t into LEO relatively cheap.
>>72952877
Muslims
>>72956353
>superior technology
>space-faring civilization
>enslaved by cavemen
???
>>72954207
Good thing im bigger than all those averages, not combined, but bigger than the largest alone
>>72952877
Physics
Because most of population is pleb tier. Those who are not busy with other stuff like getting
brainwashed by SJWs.
There are no immediate needs neither feasible ways with current technology.
Nor there is a superpower dick measuring contest going on right now
>>72955967
>nuclear powered car
I'm sorry but I find that story impossible to believe due to the nature of nuclear electrical generation mechanisms and also the amount of shielding required around a reactor to prevent it from killing everyone within 500 meters
>>72952877
Jews probably.
>>72954042
http://www.space.com/13247-moon-map-lunar-titanium.html
>>72956592
Stop being racist you privileged shitlord!!!!!!
>>72956304
>How much Uranium do we have left anyway?
Enough, especially if IFRs catch on (the lefties did a good job at killing nuclear power though). If it ever runs out i'm sure we'll find an efficient way to use thorium.
>>72952877
The fall of the USSR
The USA has noone to compete with now.
>>72956451
Only when we really have too, but that space shuttle would be part of a big industry station or something. Right now, we don't really need too unless like.. the Earth is destroyed within a few years. There is just not enough motivation at this moment.
>>72954480
It will be the best PC game in the history of mankind along with Squadron 42, not even joking
>>72956520
star citizen looks cool, but I'm skeptical as to whether it'll ever actually be finished.
Where's the "awesome" private sector?
Capitalism will never support space colonization.
Too much risk, too little guarantee of return.
>>72952877
Soviet Union falling apart.
>>72954430
We need to cut all social spending, globally. Everyone works hard or dies under the hand of the cis scum patriachy
>>72956316
I actually agree with you about the importance of progress for the sake of progress, I'm just saying I don't think the technology is at a point where there is a real-world return for the real-world money that somebody will have to spend.
But it would be better than pissing the money away on endless wars or giving it to "refugees" who will burn your city in gratitude.
it was all wasteful spending. the em drive and ion propulsion dont provide enough thrust even scaled up. nothing they gave come up with will get you any were fast
oxygen levels have been declining for decades and liquid oxygen being 1 part for a 2 part fuel for rockets for the shuttle are not going to be allowed in about 5 years or so
oxygen levels drop to 10% in cities global average you wont be getting new satellites let alone more wasted time in the international space station
this isnt a global warming argument. its not about carbon emissions. plants dont make oxygen you idiots . oxygen is a atom. plants dont make denser atoms . it has been stripped from the atmosphere by the fucking solar wind because it rises higher
you dont have the means to leave and go to another planet in orbit around another star. you cant stock pile enough shit to even get to saturn
but you will find out in a few more years when its main stream news not just random statements from the scientific community
>>72952877
The cold hard fact that FTL travel is physically impossible and therefore anything out there in space that theoretically isn't a worthless lifeless rock is so far away we'll never actually see it, therefore making space travel an expensive and pointless thing to spend time and resources on.
>>72956592
kek I never understood that either
>we wuz the superior life forms an shieet
>them cave honkies was in caves while we wuz spreadin knowledge an culture an shieet
>???
>them damn cave honkies enslaved our peoples and took our earff away from us
>kill whitey
>>72957125
well, and i thought it won't get more retarded than flat earthers
>>72953211
its not even funny anymore.
imagine in 10 years when all the retarded apes think this shit is real and in 20 years itll be taught in schools
>>72956111
theough the warp emperor will it
>>72952877
Wallstreet dragging all the PHD's and science guys/math freaks, as well as sucking tremendous amounts of money to feed the western states who got fat and lazy with the "welfare system" meme.
Why don't we use androids to colonize space?
Pretty clear humans aren't interested in going.
>>72952877
We landed on the moon
>>72953793
I thought you had to buy Russian rockets made in the Ukraine to fly your first few space vehicles?
>>72957089
Isn't it fucking pathetic? we are such a sad little species sometimes.
>>72956542
Nice overanalysis, have a random screenshot of a cringey Japanese article about a /b/ thread that went viral
>>72957024
>but I'm skeptical as to whether it'll ever actually be finished.
I can't convince you differently because the only way I can attempt to do so is to segue into a ten paragraph explanation of how the game is iteratively developed and the state of being "finished" is an entirely arbitrary point in that iterative development process. I don't think it'll convince you because it usually doesn't convince anybody, so I won't waste your time.
At this point the game has pulled in $113,480,209 in crowd funding.
Oh and I fucked up. I linked the original Squadron 42 promo they made near the beginning of the kickstarter campaign instead of the more recent story trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EC4WHPxnrk
>>72957125
>this isnt a global warming argument. its not about carbon emissions. plants dont make oxygen you idiots . oxygen is a atom. plants dont make denser atoms . it has been stripped from the atmosphere by the fucking solar wind because it rises higher
like what
>>72952877
The cost of putting things into orbit. There has been little to no development in the launchers since their invention and currently the best launcher available is the Soyeuz rockets which where designed 60 years ago. The efforts and budgets and buerocracy behind making reusable launchers and SSTO spacecraft has been laughable.
Space exploration aside, there are lots of reasons why people do want to put things into orbit on the cheap, so the fact we still can't to that limits ANY extra planetary exploration we might do.
Even if we could make a cheap reusable launcher and put a spacecraft in orbit, with electric or nuclear propulsion to travel the solar system, humans don't survive well in space on the long term.
>>72957125
Holy shit that post is retarded
>>72953864
>What is up there that we could cost-effectively exploit with current technology?
ICBMs, Recon satellites, Com Satellites, Nav Satellites. They literally changed world order and the ways of life of ordinary people.
>muh asteroid mining
These people are just idiots.
>>72952877
It was cast as a race between two super powers that were competing on almost every front.
This was very useful in getting it off to a fast start -- tons of resources were funnelled inot programs in the Soviet Union and the US.
But the downside was, once the "race" was won, the incentive to continue pouring resources into it at that level evaporated. The Soviets had major problems with their "super heavy"launch vehicle and, with the death of Korolev, they lost the Chief Designer who had been a genius at building support for the program among Communist Party and government officials.
On the US side, the war in Vietnam, riots, Watergate -- the whole national mood was turning sour and pessimistic -- witht he race over, nobody was looking to the future any more, attention was focused on the day's domestic problems.
That said, the Soviets and later the Russian Federation continued their spoace station program and perfected their Soyuz craft and its laubch vehicles, and while the US got sidetracked into the overly expensive and dangerous Space Shuttle program, at least both nations kept flying.
We may even be seeing a bit of a rebirth now, with the Chinese getting into the game. Hopefully that will spur the US and maybe Russia to get their shit together and quit dicking around in low Earth orbit with the largely-symbolic ISS being the only mission.
We'll see.
>>72952877
not having the soviets around anymore to keep us from getting lazy
>>72956520
>>72957763
Nice slushy space truck, MISCfag
>>72958194
AEGISfag detected
The fact that there is a domed sky above a flat earth and God is real.
It has become easier to lie about the cost of space travel than to fake missions outside the Iss which is filmed in a tank underwater combined with zero g sessions in a plane.
>that's just fo praktiss
Are you really this gullible?
>much oblate spheroid
>ignores fact that all "fotoz" from "spaze" none of which have not been admittedly manipulated by nasa show a perfect sphere
>>72953495
I don;t know, we would still lack the will to do much in space, and I can see some serious potential issues that might have come up the first time a big nuclear reactor was launched and had a "mission anomaly" (Challenger was a "Mission Anomaly) and threw radioactive fuel all the Hell over the place.
Launch is still to prone to failure to be throwing nuclear reactors around.
>>72957763
sounds like elite dangerous
which was / is shit
The level of stupid in this thread has reached cosmic levels.
Your daily reminder 4chan is the edgy reddit and a poorly disguised honey pot.
>>72954928
they still use the engine design from the failed soviet lunar rocket to deliver payloads into space
>>72958442
If you say so.
>>72954421
Maybe YOU'D ride in an Orion, I think I'd sit that one out.
>>72952877
There's nothing out there better than our home.
Not to mention how long it'll take to get anywhere that's somewhat decent to live on.
>>72956245
no president wants his legacy associated with a very expensive failed martian colony
>>72952933
>>72952969
These fellow master race cardholders got it right.
We'd have been on Mars if the jews and LBJ hadn't decided to push their identity political agenda after they got rid of JFK.
In the ensuild perversion of JFK's grand visiun for the future of America, and, by extension, mankind, they chose to use the extra tax income that Jack and Dwight had created to fund NASA for the betterment of humanity, and instead used it to buy votes from niggers through what's now been decades worth of gibsmedat.
If we'd spent the money that went towards the "(((((Great))))) Society" on NASA instead, we'd be at "2001: A Space Odyssey" levels of technology and human expansion into space by now.
>>72954427
>I'm asking a question about current reality.
Memo --
To :King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella
Columbus just returned from his voyage, apparantly all he found were a few savages and a leaf that makes a mildly intoxicating smoke when burned.
Obviously, now that we have explored part of one small island, there are no known exploitable resources in this "New World," I suggest we stop waiting money exploring it.
>>72958622
how many times are you gonna post the same shit?
>also please do explain just what exactly we are being 'drawn' into by this honey pot thread on what killed space travel.
>>72956353
>space niggers
>not posting sun ra
keepin it pleb, anon
>>72958377
NaBrO, I'm an Originfag
The 300 series is old as fuck, they say they're gonna redesign it. I'm hyped
>>72957454
are you retarded? Please go research the original American space program for a while and then return
>space travel
You're delusional
>>72952877
>what killed space travel progress
The Information Age.
It became no longer possible to stage events, with an ever increasingly intelligent populace.
That's about as honest an answer you will get in this thread.
>>72952877
It's only the rich that could afford to do it.
When space travel becomes cheap enough that the disaffected can up and move to mars you'll see real mass migration.
Until then it's a complete joke.
>>72952877
Same thing that destroys everything else, women.
>>72957238
sounds kind of like the negro version of "everything was great until the shitskins and leftists ruined civilization"
>>72953211
Are these people stupid or just delusional about their own race? Seen a lot about this and wonder where they get this shit? I know they are niggers but that is no excuse for stupid, unsupported idea's
>>72958893
This,
LBJ and Nixon went and fucked it all up
>>72952877
Jews socially engineering, forcing non whites into the space program administration and businesses
>>72954430
>How come I ain't got no money here? Whitey's on the moon.
This one always enrages me. "Why spend all that money in space when we have so many problems here.???"
Protip you ignorant fucks -- Every dime spent on space was spent right here on Earth. Every job created was created here on Earth. Every new technology developed was developed right hereon Earth.
>>72952877
Nothing, we're only starting
>>72953495
The treaties are self serving. Both the USSR and the US didn't want nuclear explosions in Earth Orbit fucking with their satellites electronics.
That's really all there is too it.
So long as space is so married to terrestrial interests it will never be relevant. The elites have no interest in change.
Ayyliens. Tesla discovered how to harness free energy and some guy working for him made anti gravity technology and flying saucers. The ayyliens are holding us down, why do you think the CIA exists? So they can keep all the good shit for themselves and leave us with primitive garbage like jet engines.
>>72958943
>sending boats across the ocean to bring back gold and spending civilization-crippling amounts of money to build fleets of single-use rockets to go and harvest small chunks of tungsten from asteroids is totally the same thing and I made a clever analogy
I hope you're at least cute
>>72957763
backer #150k reporting in, haven't checked on the status of the game since early 2015
>>72959282
holy shit why have I never heard this argument
>>72952877
Lack of viable Earth alternatives.
>>72954776
>The mistory of manned space exporation makes a lot more sense if you accept that the manned moon program was faked.
Yeah, but the downside to that is that you have to be some sort of super-ultra-mega moron.
>>72959222
Both.
They're so butthurt that their race has accomplished absolutely nothing they have to WE WUZ everything.
>>72955379
It would be cool if it worked, but so far my money is on it being an error in measuring what was going on. But we'll see,,,
Still, solar sails, ion drives and other options are out there -- we can go out and poke around if we decide we want to.
>>72958973
This thread in particular is completely retarded just scroll up and read a few of the posts getting the most responses for evidence of this, the whole of 4chan mind you is a honeypot to lure bored semi-morons like yourself into spending an inordinate amount of time chattering "anonymously" about things none of you comprehend or could ever hope to comprehend. Its a time trap, a "meme" maker.
The fact that you are asking me to explain what exactly you are being "drawn" into provides proof positive of its effectiveness. I post the reminder not so much for burghers like yourself, more as subtle reminder to the agents monitoring this board and others that we are aware of their poorly veiled honey pot. It fucks with them on a subconscious level and often ends in the termination of threads like this.
>>72959403
You're probably better off. Keeping up with the bits of information isn't that exciting. When SQ42 gets released you'll know, and that's all that matters. The playable alpha build is a nice novelty but there's not much to do in it.
>>72952877
The fall of the Berlin wall.
>>72955140
>But he did answer your quistion, we should aspire to learn more about the universe around us, we won't know what can be exploited or used until we go and find out, how hard is this to understand?
most scientists do not think human spaceflight is necessary, refer to the graph.
they understand, better than the general public, that we have many ways to research space without using squishy humans.
>>72955635
Unless soemthign new has happened since last I looked, "NASA has confirmed" is a huge overstatement. The "let's try weird shit just in case" office has it, they have not proved anything is really going on to a sufficient extent to have the agency as a whole take an interest.
>>72952877
There's literally nothing we can travel to with current tech (or funds).
Give it some time and we might go to Mars in our lifetime, once space agencies get more monies.
>>72952877
the baby boomers
>>72952877
The civil rights era.
>>72959804
did they change the freelancer?
>>72960225
Like 3 times
It's bigger and much more detailed than its first appearance
>>72952877
not enough good space MMO games
>>72955741
>Just give the guys at JPL, energija and so on the money they need and let them do what they want, without stupid political interference
More or less agree, though some oversight is going to be mandatory since those guys are as capable of screwing around and wasting moiney as the rest of us.
I'd favor a more goal-oriented approach -- I think the big problem right now is that nobody but the Chinese have serious goals in space, and lacking goals, it is hard to plan how to achieve them. So everybody dicks around in LEO and proposes a new "amazing goal" every few months, with no commitment to anything.
"We choose to go to the moon" got us to the moon, even if we did then start backsliding.
>>72958973
;^)
>>72958667
they use heavily modified NK 33 engines for the antares and tested it in a sojuz 2.1w. There are many new engine designs, and enough old ones still in use (the RD 170 and all its iterations for example). There isn't that much left you can improve for kerolox engines. With methane coming up as fuel we'll see some new engines.
What does that have to do with the point though? Engines are only a really small part of the R&D for space missions.
>>72955967
>>72956353
So the sneks are kill ?
>>72959222
For them it needs to be true. Imagine being part of a race that's responsible for so much trouble and so little good. You'd be making a fantasy land up in your head too
What killed it? Fear.
Fear of the unknown and the unimaginable.
We have a bunch of theories and nothing more. We know little. Space is frustrating and challenging like no other.
I wish you and I were born 500+ years from today, it's just too damn early.
>>72953038
>>72953138
Both right
Breakaway space civilization.
All of NAZA was poorly faked cover stories.
>>72953152
If you want to play golf on the moon instead of helping the poor, you are literally Hitler.
>>72956111
Personally, I am thinking with portals...
>>72960353
good it was way too small
>>72960225
Yup, bigger now.
>>72954207
Thanks for reminding me asshole ;_;
>>72956111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_timelike_curve
>>72955379
>I'm really hoping the EM drive (memedrive) turns out to work
If EM Drive works it will become Extinction Level Event, you have relativistic kill vehicles that can obliterate whole planets(constant acceleration of objects until they reach light speed).
Humanity would have to disperse among the interstellar void to avoid destruction.
>>72956182
Higgs Particule or something is the name of a theoretical particle that goes back in time in the Higgs spectrum or something, I forget.
>>72959432
There's quite a lot of viable Earth alternatives, it's just getting to them that's the problem.
>>72952877
The fact that we need to leave mass behind in order to accelerate.
>>72957125
Looks like the memes about American education are true.
>>72960440
> though some oversight is going to be mandatory since those guys are as capable of screwing around and wasting moiney as the rest of us.
Yes, but it can only get better. They need to have someone with a vision and sound understanding of what his agency is doing in charge there, and it'll probably be fine. Build stuff that fits your needs, and don't give a shit about senators and whatnot that want to keep industry in their states.
I agree that we need big goals. Humans on mars might not be that useful, but its a visionary idea you can get people behind. You can repurpose the tech used to achieve that goal for other (unmanned) missions, to saturn and jupiter for example
It's not dead but with current technology it is prohibitively expensive and the time scales are just too long
>>72959402
I'm fat, old and have a tiny dick. Sorry.
I am also sorry that the analogy went over your head.
Giving up on exploration because there is no immediate return on investment would have been foolish then, it would be foolish now.
Before you can send fleets to bring back ships full of gold, you have to learn how to find the New World, you have to navigate there and back, you have to discover there is gold there, you'll need some guys with guns (or shovels, you could do it either way) to go live there...
None of which happens if you land on one island, or one moon, look around and say "Well, this sucks, I'm done."
That is why our current situation is analogous to the one I described.
>>72956647
your flag says you're 5" tops you little dick manlet
>>72961171
MayMay drive could work, they said the same about the large HARDON collider.
We're fine, it'll all be fine.
>>72952969
This. So very very much.
Want proof- look at that shit storm over that NASA engineer's shirt. Which had some bikini clad chick's on it. Which was made for him by a female coworker. That was what the dipshits focused on. That. "Muh sexism".
NOT THE FACT THAT HE JUST LANDED OF FUCKING SPACE PROBE ON A GODDAM COMET. FUCK I HATE SJW CRYBULLY LOSERS. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A BIGGER OBSTACLE TO HUMAN PROGRESS THAN THESE COCKGARGLERS.
>>72959222
Welcome to /pol/ most people here are exactly like that too
>>72961545
Well it is one possible explanation for the Great Filter.
>>72960458
Thanks for posting that -- saved mae a lot of typing, and I think you said it better than I would have -- so I'll just say "Second!"
>>72961171
>Humanity would have to disperse among the interstellar void to avoid destruction.
We're going to have to do that anyway.
W KNOW there are all sorts of things that can clobber a planet, and we seem to be inventing a few more. Sitting on one of them forever is not an option.
>>72961638
That's one theory on how we became to come into existence isn't it?
That basically some species from somewhere in the universe basically put a bunch of their DNA and shit etc on probes, landed them on comets and sperminated the entire universe or something.
We could do that? I don't know, I'm too tired, Astrobiology is boring so is Quantum Physics and GR.
>>72961382
Except it's not at all comparable.
A better analogy would be 1500's Spain trying to colonize Antarctica.
>>72961856
Our star will die eventually, no amount of green taxes will stop that.
We can be docile and die out like blacks.
Or we can sperminate the universe. I CHOSE TO SPERMINATE!
>tfw no Sea Dragon for massive ease of putting things into orbit and much cheaper costs
>>72961292
Only to get out of the gravity well.
And not even then if we can ever develop the tech for a Space Elevator.
But for now, yeah, to make orbit, "speedy think comes out the bottom, solid heavy speedy thing goes up."
>>72961888
No, Great Filter is the theory that something destroys civilizations before they can expand into space.
>>72961343
>don't give a shit about senators and whatnot that want to keep industry in their states.
That's an ideal situation -- but it might lead to Senators having less interest in giving you money. What early-NASA and Korolev did so brilliantly was they played the political game well enough to get the monies, while keeping their own teams on the goal. If you have to build your booster in Senator Foghorn;s district, OK, as long as that means you get to build your booster.
>>72962233
I said I was tired, I get all the theories mixed up.
Right now I've got transproson DNA and AYY LMAO's in my head.
Fuck science, too much of it.
Can you invent a teleportation device so I can poop in it, I'm too lazy to go upstairs.
Thank you anon.
>>72961382
it's a poor analogy because we are already exploring space, we're just not using humans for it (or not directly anyway). the spanish lacked the technology to study the new world without visiting it themselves, we are not in the same position with regards to space - we have a very good idea what to expect already, and can make decisions based on that information.
>>72952877
Conservatives.
>>72952877
Literally zero profit motive.
We will rise.
>>72962485
>>72961382
We need to merge nano technology and stem cells together so we can have little factories inside us that can repair our cells and increase life span.
Or merge with computers, upload consciousness to computers and send them around the universe.
How to counteract freezing of equipment? Can we use some weird freaky technology for that? American fart techniques?
>>72962399
it's sad, really. Why can't we just elect a space trump that tells them to go suck a big black cock if they want to influence where my 5% GDP space research money goes to
>>72952877
radiation
>>72962577
>Literally zero profit motive.
Mining comets could be lucrative business.
>MFW the Federal Reserve could peg future dollar bills to comets and the minerals found on them
>>72962799
i doubt that's much of an issue, there are enough people willing to increase their cancer risk in exchange for being send to space. Heck, there were enough people willing to die on mars when that scam mars one program asked for it.
>>72953864
ayy lmaos duh
>>72952877
The fall of the Soviet Union.
Unfortunately, most of murrica was only interested in space travel as a means to engage the soviets in a dick waving contest. Without the soviets, NASA's budget dried up and was diverted to dem programs.
>>72961902
Maybe -- though I'd argue that the ability to develop and refine technology is something we do better and faster now than they did then.
At the end of the day, I think it's worth a shot, if I am reading you right, you do not.
>>72963010
Radiation is problematic for long term space exploration.
It causes micro holes to be punctured in things, especially human cells.
Those Mars One goys won't survive the trip.
>>72962044
We'll never make it to the sun dying if we spend that time sitting on one planet and jacking off to animu.
>>72963113
I suppose you aren't reading me right then.
>>72962233
That is one of the more delightfully untestable theories I have ever seen.
![whitey+on+the+moon+09[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/h6zkdhL.jpg "whitey+on+the+moon+09[1].jpg")
>>72952877
Diversity
>>72963291
No we won't make it to the sun dying because it'll swell up and boil our oceans, causing the Venus effect on our planet quite quickly.
That's if we're not hit by an asteroid beforehand or a GRB.
GRB's scare me anon, hold me pls.
>>72962683
Because the "we" in your question is a pretty small minority. Pretty small minorities have a hard time electing anyone.
They CAN be part of a coalition to elect someone, though.
>>72963390
It's just a hypothesis offered to explain the fact that we don't see any evidence of other intelligent life like we had expected to.
