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How can you be liberal and support bringing in Rapefugees?
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How can you be liberal and support bringing in Rapefugees?

Rapefugees are socially in the fucking Stone Age in regards with how they treat others, their views on rape, on women, lgbt, etc.

Fuck these people.
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>>72943943
because they are constantly fed lies which their bias agrees with.
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because they are poor and brown coloured

two requirements for abandoning all other principles
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>>72943943

>How can you be liberal and support bringing in Rapefugees?
U wot m8
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>>72944211
I think OP believes liberal still means classical liberal.
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>>72944730
What would you say it means now?

To me it always meant that everyone deserves the right to personal freedom. That I have the right to live my life the way I want (without infringing on the rights of others) with others treading on me.

I can see how certain social programs can be a part of that (education, health care, infrastructure, security, etc..).

Liberal should not mean forgetting about all of these values just because the people are coming from a shitty part of the world.

It's some mad fucking doublethink to forget the very clear value differences that these conservative Muslim individuals have. It's fucking retarded
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>>72943943
the majority of Muslims have brown skin therefor they are on the oppressed list according to liberals. even though they oppress woman and lgbt and other religions this fact is easily over looked again cause of the brown skin thing . don't ever equate liberals with any form of logic it just cant be done to truly understand them you must be one at some point in your life .
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>>72943943

Liberals would enter into a contradiction if they had a problem with rapefugees

Their claim is all that all the problems of the world are caused by evil artificial structures, including borders

Recognizing that borders actually have a function would demolish their own arguments in many fronts at the same time, all the way to segregation and gay marriage (the latter which is a dissolution of the border between man and woman)

So they literally can't
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>>72945308

Classic Liberalism (and Christianity to a large extent as well) are the source of fuel for leftism

When you declare that freedom is the only value that deserves civilization revelance, every kind of border, from social or culture, that would limit such freedom becomes an enemy
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>>72943943
>How can you be liberal
Modern liberal is buzzword.
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>>72945890
Nope.

Modern liberals are simply taking the project of Robespierre to its logical conclusion

One that is very similar to the betrayal and destruction of white haitians during the french revolution
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>>72945308
Classical libralism was about limited government and more power to the people

Social libralism is adopting certain aspects of socialism to libralism (I.e social security)

Modern liberals are more social liberal than not, libitarians would be classical liberals.
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>>72945562
I don't have a problem with gay marriage. I'm not religious. Again I would consider myself to be on the liberal side of certain social issues (but fuck sjws and safe spaces) which is exactly why I don't want to bring in a bunch of crazy Stone Age fundies.
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>>72946433
Well are you a classical liberal then?
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>>72943943
>How can you be liberal and support bringing in Rapefugees?
Out with the old, in with the new. That's literally their motto and why they insist on citing the current year. It doesn't matter if the 'new' is bad.
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>>72946433

The core of the issue is simple: If you believe that freedom is the ultimate value, then the freedom of goatfuckers to move nextdoor override any concern you may have about them

You may not mind being a hypocrite, but most white people have been influenced by christian morality, and take an issue with it

As long as christian morality is linked to liberalism the western world is fucked


(it is very telling that the ones pushing for rapefugee immigration the hardest are the pope and the christian churches)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
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>>72946836

I don't see how I am being a hypocrite. The fundie values the refugees bring would actively work against many of the freedoms I value, therefore I don't want them here. It's only logical.
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>>72947272

You would sacrifice the freedom of others to save your own freedom

You may not care about it, but that is onto itself a contradiction must liberals can't tolerate as long as they believe in a christian framework of morality
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>>72947514
Who's freedom am I sacrificing? These people are not citizens. They do not have some magical right to come here.
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>>72943943
Liberals do things that feel good, while conservatives do things that do good.
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>>72947785

> These people are not citizens.

The classical liberals of the french revolution didn't create "the particular declaration of the rights of the french citizens"

they created "the universal declaration of rights of all humans"

You wrongly assume that classical liberalism works on a particularistic framework. For most liberals that is not the case, insofar their framework is an universalist ones based on Galatians 3:28 (even if they are not even quite aware of that)

it is very telling that your particularism was not shared by those french men of 1789, who declared themselves, not a local government, authors of law that would govern all of humanity!
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>>72947785
He's describing their mindset to you, modern liberals belive in fairness and equality even when it involves removing their own rights, modern libralism is a gross mutation of what it used to be.
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