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>tfw your minister of defence is an overweight feminist dyke that looks like elton john
What's she gonna do? Crush isis between her massive fat tits?
Fat shaming is a much more serious issue than ISIS, OP.
>>72936116
She eats ISIS for lunch every day.
>>72936116
Looks like she has some pretty big tits.
oh fuck she even the glasses
>>72936116
xray this.
>>72936116
Considering she oversees a military that literally promote mentally ill homosexual self harmers into position of power AND a military that produced an Australian of the year who has literally advocated for turning Australia over to the Chinese...She seems perfectly at home.
>>72936116
She's been the best so far.
New french subs are pretty good kit, though it's a shame we didn't get honourabre Nippon steel.
The new AFV's for the Army will be the next sticking point.
looks like she would be good at softball
>>72937331
>America makes us buy subs
>Doesn't get a reimbursement
>Doesn't get the best option from Japan
>Gets mediocre subs from France despite Germany offering equally mediocre subs for half the cost
She's a fucking idiot.
>>72937331
Can buy new submarines from:
>Germany
>Japan
>France
They went for fucking France. France. France has the worst most overpriced military industry. We're better off if we buy from Japan and Germany.
>>72937331
the fact we didn't go with japanese subs is fucked up. Fucking china has something to do with this.
The japanese subs were far superior to the french or german ones. France doesn't even make electric diesel subs as big as we want them yet japan does.
it's such a fucked up deal......
>>72937443
>>72937443
>america makes us buy subs
>le french are expensive so must be shit
You're both fucking retards.
Feels good to have an alpha male defence minister.
>>72937600
Why is Australia a cuck to the french submarine jew?
>>72936116
>>72937804
Still pissed about your last naval engagement against the French?
>>72937770
Why does nearly everyone of our defence ministers have those kind of glasses?
>>72937701
>>72937920
the french subs are shit. Go look at the tenders. germany and France have NEVER made a 4000 ton diesel electric submarine, there design needs to be modified to suit our needs.
Japan has made subs that size in diesel electric and has already done all the testing and ironed out the creases.
They were going to hand over shitloads of classified sub technology to us as part of the deal.
Then China had a giant hissy fit over it and oh look Japan didn't get the contract.
>>72937443
Japan does not export military goods.
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>>72937812
Best one is Syria
>that badass field marshal moustache
>>72937920
I just want to hear speculation on why Straya went with the french sub instead of superior nip sub.
our mod looks alright
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>>72938241
I can see why ISIS are terrified of him
Fuck do we need subs for? Last i checked, IS couldn't swim
>>72938258
It's not that complicated, china has them by the balls and they hate us
>>72936116
Only people with military experience should be minister of defence. Instead half of the western world has self-entitled women.
>>72937443
>Mediocre subs from France
Literally the best. You don't know jack shit what you're talking about. Shitposting as usual.
>>72938144
They do now...all they need to figure out now is how to win tenders.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-29/japanese-submarine-deal-with-australia-may-rattle-china/5487402
>thicc
>>72938471
sauce
>>72938458
We still love ya japan nip
>>72937443
I think ur minister has been eating ur subs
>>72938388
Subs sit at the top of our ORBAT. Right now, there are Aussie subs and unfriendly subs in all sorts of places they shouldn't really be. You really need to put the bong down and real a little...
>>72938466
this is feminism for us though, gotta have dat woyman quota go somewhere, and what better position that the destruction, and inserting socialist beliefs- i mean defense of a country.
>>72938471
you haven't built 4000 ton diesel electric subs before.
>>72937600
>japanese subs were far superior to the french or german ones
Citation needed
>>72938675
I've never shitposted either, but damn you're a good teacher
>>72938618
Boku no Race war now
>>72938458
We don't hate you. My grandparents do...but I married one of you and bought you home with me. Old Based Tone gave Shinzo the wink and the nod and you Japs thought you were a shoe in and the tender process was just formality. Meanwhile, Tones got shafted, and we realised with $50bn we better check out some options. Japan isn't used to bidding for international military contracts, and was outplayed. Plus we don't want to piss off our Chink overlords...
>>72937443
>Not building your own ships
You're a disgrace to the anglosphere
>>72938466
It used to be like that but since the MoD's position has become something more of a glorified PR agent for the state, they'd rather put women with social degrees than rugdy old men to do that job.
Plus it's free votes for MUH FEMALE CABINET MEMBER.
>Modern french military equipment
That really helped them in the world wars. Sacre bleu time for another white flag.
>>72936116
Why the fuck do western countries put women into this post? Half of the european defence minsters are female as well. What are they trying to prove? I will never understand why the defence minster doesn't come straight out of the military anyways.
>muh democratic elected representive
It is not like any western country votes for this posts directly.
>>72938816
We build English ships as well, and even the royal navy in the 19th century was using French designs and were designed by émigrés who fled the revolution.
>>72938741
Prove you can build a 4000 ton diesel electric sub then you surrender monkey
>>72937701
French subs are mediocre.
Learn to read faggot.
>>72938144
Yes they do.
>>72938471
I don't mean to be rude. We can't even build our own subs. But your subs...they be mediocre. We're just not allowed to use U.S. or British designs.
>>72938816
We're too small to have a sub-fleet. We don't even need it. We're just getting them because you're making us.
>>72938471
Why do you believe that the french are the best? I am speaking money/performance rating.
Honestly curious.
>>72938815
I think he was suggesting China hates then and had us by the balls
>>72938738
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collins-class_submarine_replacement_project
read about it faggot, the Japanese are at least a decade ahead of the french when it comes to submarine technology.
>>72936116
Yfw she's Julia Gillard and has snuck back into power.
>>72939253
>We're too small to have a sub-fleet.
>Only nation in the world that is also a continent
>only nation that is also a continent and surrounded entirely by ocean
>All our military threats will be naval
>we don't need submarines though
you are a retard
>>72938095
So the option for Jap sub was off the table then. Politics as Australia can't involve any real stamping of our feet, we're not powerful in any real way.
Hopefully we keep the Barracuda long enough to get some nip upgrades further down the track.
>>72939308
Cool story faggot. French technology is better, and unlike the Japs they don't import and redesign shit from German companies
>>72939323
after sneaking to the fridge
amirite?
>>72939400
>I like the chinese fucking my ass raw and not even paying me for it
you sound like a faggot, we have no reason to fear the chinese. They are a paper tiger.
>>72939395
Yeah, we really needed them in WW2 didn't we?
Our population is too small for a sub-fleet. We don't need it. That's what America is for.
>>72936116
She's trying to become morbidly obese so she can ascend to the health portfolio.
>>72939306
True. If (when?) there's another major regional conflict, we'd be fighting with the Japs against the Chinks. Our biggest problem is the all the Chinese infiltrators already here...we are dumb fucks and need to stamp out dual citizenship immediately
>>72936116
Was she ever even in the military?
>>72939433
Tell that to your own government who recommended the far too expensive Jap submarines as the superior choice.
The French subs are meh, and everyone knows it, including the military. But we never go with the better option in these cases because of money and political considerations.
We should just be getting British subs anyway, since they're still our parents.
>>72939395
Honestly, Australia doesn't even remotly have the manpower to fend of an invasion. How do you wanna defend your massive coast? Even if you had 10 times the population it still would be unrealistic.
>>72936116
I don't get this "your Minister of Defence needs to be some army guy" meme comes from
Do any of you understand what a Defence Minister actually does, particularly in a Westminster system?
>>72939556
Why the fuck would Japan and China fight ?
Subsidiary question, do you really think Australia and Japan could win a conventional war against a China that isn't:
1.governed by incompetents
2.in a state of feudal warfare and internal strife
>>72939433
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%8Dry%C5%AB-class_submarine
>The Sōryū-class submarines (16SS) are diesel-electric attack submarines that entered service with the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force in 2009. The design is an evolution of the Oyashio-class submarine, from which it can most easily be distinguished by its X-shaped tail planes. The Sōryūs have the largest displacement of any submarine used by post-war Japan.
It is Japan's first air-independent propulsion submarine. The class are fitted with Kockums Stirling engines license-built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, allowing them to stay submerged for longer periods of time. Some recent information suggest that the last units in the series will have their air independent propulsion systems replaced with banks of Li-Ion batteries.
They build the engine with a license from Sweden.
The Sōryū-class evolved from the Oyashio-class which evolved from the Harushio-class
all built by mitsubishi and kawasaki heavy industries.
>>72939556
>we'd be fighting with the Japs against the Chinks
Not if you were smart you wouldn't
>>72939603
Yes.
Which is precisely why it should be someone who can manage more than a local council meeting about what to get for lunch; McDonald's or More McDonald's.
This is Ursula Von der Leyen. She wants our military to get rid of the G36 and all it's variants because alleged overheating is causing it not to shoot straight.
>>72939600
We let them in, then they die. It takes a hell of a lot more men and material to attack a continent than to defend, especially an island continent.
>>72939603
HE should be putting YOU in a concentration camp (melbourne) with the rest of the cucks.
>>72939499
> That's what America is for.
and that is exactly why Trump is winning and he will win is because faggots like you take the americans for granted and don't even offer to pay them.
I look forward to our government shitting itself when america pulls back from asia.
This is the senior female of a top Ministry of the Israeli government.
>Israel's Minister of Justice
>>72939654
>Why the fuck would Japan and China fight ?
don't read much history do you frog?
>>72939793
This cunt gets it.
Everyone has shit on us for the better part of the century so we're taking our toys and going home.
>>72939654
China and Japan are constantly on the brink of Angry Words. They loathe each other and bicker incessantly about each others presence in each others regions.
1. This sort of answers your question; The Chinese are absolutely retarded and have a complete mess of a military rife with late soviet era style corruption and mishandling.
2. Japan alone could win a conventional war against China. They outgun them and have a bigger war chest.
Australia would just, I dunno, lend a hand.
I'm not even sure what Australia would even be doing involved in this hypothetical situation.
Plus it would be all of Asia vs. China. Not just Japan and Australia.
With the Indonesia wild card smack bang in the middle.
>>72939306
What would China have done if Straya went with the nip subs?
>>72939597
Our country recommended the Japs for convenience. Even though they have no experience making shit for others. Let alone compete price wise with other tenders.
>>72939829
It seems I know history a little better than you do senpai.
>>72939907
>1. This sort of answers your question; The Chinese are absolutely retarded and have a complete mess of a military rife with late soviet era style corruption and mishandling.
>2. Japan alone could win a conventional war against China. They outgun them and have a bigger war chest.
australian shitposting out of hand
>>72939710
Well be fighting the Chinese too. If our cousins get attacked you better believe we're coming.
Besides China needs taken down a peg. It's a lot less smart to live in a world where they have as much influence as the US does now. And that's only a few decades away. Get them now. That's the smart move.
>>72936116
same
>>72939737
Kek absolutely Savage bantz
>>72936116
nope, but she gonna send you strayacucks to die for her own personal security because you voted her to be your commander.
the day of the rope soon?
>>72939896
I just want you to know I really appreciate everything you guys have done for us.
Thanks. I mean it.
>>72939786
I'm not saying she necessarily any good, retard.
I'm pointing out that the Defence Minister just makes administrative decisions about the military (mostly to do with finance and that sort of thing) and just signs of any stuff the Department tells her too. Geopolitical/defence strategy etc is developed by the APS and the PM and Foreign Minister mainly.
Defence Minister is much less important role here than, say, Defence Secretary in the US system.
>>72936116
Fuck it, I'd happily stick my face into those bazookas.
>>72939793
>Take the Americans for granted
We literally let them screw us in the ass on trade on an endless basis, let them govern our country by proxy and routinely provide material support for all their conflicts, at the first hint of marching orders.
This is exactly WHY they protect us.
This is exactly why they have very important military and intelligence assets in our nation, a strategic crux and dominion for them in the Southern Hemisphere.
>When America pulls back from Asia
When is this happening?
Because Trump wants to increase the presence MASSIVELY, and that's after Hilary's democratic advisers have already steered Obama to massively increasing their presence in the region. Remember "the pivot"?
That's why we're being ordered to Sub Up in the first place.
>>72936116
Can someone explain to me why an "overweight feminist dyke" is MoD then lets say...A former general/commander with actual combat knowledge.
>>72939970
Senkaku islands is just one possibility.
>>72939896
>Taking our toys and going home
No you aren't.
Trump wants to expand the military. It will be even more heavily reliant on Australia as a glorified garage if he starts to go toe to toe with China on trade.
>>72939654
Any number of reasons. Most likely flashpoint is Takeshima, but that would be unlikely to result in a regional conflict...although America is obligated to defend Japan if the Chinese attacked them so it could escalate.
They don't have a proper blue water capability (yet), so we could probably limit their ability to move invasion forces around. No way Australia could fight the Chinese in China. Japan probably could with full mobilisation (they did it in the past), but I think any conflict with China will be with them acting as the aggressor, and us reacting to their expansionism/belligerency. Victory for us would be stopping them from heading south and forcing them go back and lick their wounds. All this is purely hypothetical and assumes it remains conventional. Australia needs to develop nuclear strike capability to truly act as a deterrent to China.
>>72939910
To have gone with the Jap subs would have meant high level technical treaties and shit that would make Japan and Australia close allies. The Chinks know that the French always dog on deals when the political situation gets hot, Exocet missiles, Russian ships, Mirage fighters, the frogs have dogged on more deals than anyone. By taking the French subs we're actually saying, subs, what subs.
>>72939970
What part is wrong?
>>72940184
literally nothing will come out of this century old "feud", it's about as likely to provoke war as Jersey and Guernsey.
>>72939763
Wat the fuggg? >:DDDD
>>72939910
Throw their toys out of the cot and use their sternest possible words about how it wouldn't be in the interests of the region. Fuck China.
>>72936116
Why would you make a women the defence minister?
>>72939485
A paper tiger who we need to keep happy so they keep buying our shit and sending over their uni students.
Don't like that we aren't a fucking world power? Too fucking bad cunt, we're the bottom bitch in this relationship and unless we go nuclear weapons that's where we're gonna stay.
>>72940263
This.
This is as retarded as thinking Germany and France would go to war over Austria-Hungary invading Serbia.
>>72940346
Because leftists
>>72940213
>Japan probably could with full mobilisation (they did it in the past)
Look up the context of China during the Japanese invasion(s).
>but I think any conflict with China will be with them acting as the aggressor, and us reacting to their expansionism/belligerency
So America manufacturing a bullshit excuse painting China as the aggressor like they did with Iraq and Libya and have been trying to do since the "pivot" you mentioned earlier, gotcha.
>>72940239
both, the army in China is literally the one thing that works well
>>72940354
>Keep buying our shit
>Keep sending Uni students
That well is drying up.
China has done nothing for our country. We were fine before the Great Chinese Migration, and we'll be fine aferward (kek, probably not, but that's what we get for being greedy lazy fucks dependent on other nations).
>>72940133
>they fuck us on trade
THE ONLY REASON WE CAN FUCKING TRADE WITH ANYONE IS CAUSE THE FUCKING AMERICANS FLEETS KEEP SHIPPING CHANNELS SECURE AND SAFE YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED
>Trump is going to follow obama's policies
>Trump is going to happily have american soldiers on foreign soil FOR FREE
>Trump has been consistently saying he will provide american soldiersa FOR FREE
you are a fucking retard. The whole western world is going to start getting bills from america for the military security they provide once he becomes president.
>>72940109
>b-b-but the defence m-minister doesn't even have any r-real p-power
Tell that to Cosgrove when he sents you to cuck jail you frigging faggot.
>>72940346
We're militarily cucking ourselves for our globalist overlords. Our only hope is annexation by the god emperor.
>>72940205
>Trump wants to expand the military
Yes he does but he doesn't want to keep protecting other nations FOR FREE
Have you even watched his speeches or read his policies?
>>72940482
Except the Chinese army is notoriously fucking useless and rife with corruption and incompetence.
They are militarily DECADES behind Japan, let alone the U.S.
>>72940384
the problem with your flag is I never know if you're an idiot or just shitposting
>>72940531
I'll write a letter to the Queen asking for Aussie recolonization. I'll print out your post out and attach it.
>>72939764
No we don't shit for brains, we stop them with naval and air power.
That's our whole defence, if they make it too land then we use terrain and cut off their supply lines and mop up survivors.
I bet you've never even read a fucking White Paper cunt.
>>72940354
Guess what happens if china is angry at us and stops trading with us?
We don't keep heaps of cheap shit and our university sector suffers
GUESS WHAT HAPPENS IF CHINA DOESN"T IMPORT THE FOOD WE PRODUCE
THEY FUCKING STARVE
China cannot produce enough food to feed it's own people. China is more dependant on imports then the west is.
The moment cunts like you start realising these simple facts the sooner people will stop acting like china is some sort of fucking threat.
>>72940514
I'm trying to educate you a bit you fucking redditor
I couldn't give a fuck about this fat trollop.
>>72940482
>China has not been expanding in the last decade and taking new territory
You don't keep up with current events much do you?
>>72940687
Sorry Ali, we're not joining the UK Emirate.
Make sure to wish Sadiq a happy Eid for us though, okay?
>>72940488
Are you clinically retarded or is this an elaborate shitpost?
>>72940346
Why would you make a nigger the president?
>>72940506
>THE ONLY REASON WE CAN FUCKING TRADE WITH ANYONE IS CAUSE THE FUCKING AMERICANS FLEETS KEEP SHIPPING CHANNELS SECURE AND SAFE YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED
This isn't 1944 you immense idiot.
>FOR FREE
...
>FOR FREE
Did you just completely miss all the services we provide for the U.S.?
Did you just completely not understand WHY the U.S. provides us with security? Do you think it's because they really enjoyed Crocodile Dundee?
They provide security because the only reason we have any threats is because we are a U.S. Proxy.
That's it.
They want to station military and intelligence apparatus here, in return they provide security.
Do you think we spend billions on military operations in the Middle East, Africa, South East Asia for fun?
You're a colossal moron.
>"Trump is going to follow Obama's policies"
No, he's going to OUTSTRIP THEM.
ESPECIALLY in our neck of the woods. He's already made this clear as fucking crystal.
>>72940796
I try to avoid American medias, they leave me with a bad taste of Pravda
>>72940732
>implying you and your wife's son can teach me anything at all
Hit the bricks dipshit, you already got roasted like a lamb on Sunday (or your wife on Manus).
>>72940482
China is the one fucking with their neighbours by taking disputed territory in the South China Sea. China invaded Tibet, and wants to take over Taiwan. Sure, the US are the big swinging dick that likes to slap it in their face now and then, but it's only China and North Korea in the region that are fucking with their neighbours. Australia doesn't have any disputes with China directly, but we will support Japan over China any day in the event of conflict.
The Chinese were peasants when they were conquered by the Japanese, but so were the Japanese. They had a technological edge and better Navy (same as now). I think they could do it again, but probably the biggest thing against that hypothesis is the current generation of Japanese young people that would rather read comics than die for the emperor.
>>72940558
Yes.
Do you know what the word "free" means?
Fine. Expand your military. And then have nowhere in the South Pacific to stage from.
Makes perfect sense.
![gerry-brownlee-3-getty_w452[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b9DFSGK.jpg "gerry-brownlee-3-getty_w452[1].jpg")
>his minister of defence isnt a stony faced monster fatcunt
>>72940578
Luckily I don't have that problem with your flag.
How come there's so many women as ministers of defence
>>72940701
>Australia is the only place in the world that grows food
It's easier to think clearly if you remove your head from your arse.
>>72940844
Explain one thing about the post that is wrong without resorting to an unrelated ad hominem.
Yeah, I know you can't.
>>72940801
Sure mate, enjoy next Chinese New Year
Has she ever held a gun before? What are her qualifications?
>>72941019
>lol pull your head out of your ass m8 lol cunt
He's right.
It's why China, Korea, Germany and Switzerland are purchasing massive tracts of our agricultural land.
You're a confused and simple person who should probably go back to /b/.
>>72940945
We could literally just use the Philippines and I'm sure they'd be much more cooperative.
>>72939907
stop being a retard mate, china could flatten japan without even using any of its modern technology
>>72939499
>Yeah, we really needed them in WW2 didn't we?
>in 20XX, you will have to fight WW2 again
>>72940922
Bravo neo/pol/
You can sure shitpost with the best of them
>>72940928
>China invaded Tibet
Tibet was legally relinquished over to China.
>and wants to take over Taiwan
they don't because Taiwan already depends on China for the greater part of its economy, hence why Ma and the KMT had a good relationship with the PRC^.
>but it's only China and North Korea in the region that are fucking with their neighbours
China literally is dumping NK and has very warm relations with SK, the issue of the islands has existed since Vietnam took its independence from China in the 15th century and the whole island shenaningans only started when Obama and the U.S. decided to focus their policy on Asia.
>The Chinese were peasants when they were conquered by the Japanese
Qing completely fucked over the Chinese power structure and stripped China of its navy, when it collapsed China was cut into half a dozen warring states which is when Japan invaded.
When Japan invaded China Japan was technologically on par with the west after the great modernization provided by France, England and America in the 19th century culminating them beating Russia, China only started recovering from the late Qing era in the 70's.
>>72940877
>hurr this isn't 1944
you don't seem to understand how important the USA is when it comes to shipping.
>we spend billions on operations all around the world for them
Billions is nothing to an american. Fucks sake Trump has several billion in his own chest.
America provides security because of the ANZUS agreement. They already turned their back on NEW zealand for not letting a single ship dock at a new zealand port.
he has openly said that asian countries need to pay america for the security they provide.
>>72938816
Australia is a cuck nation, we're the only Western country that is a net importer of arms
We produce none of our own weapons
Our Armies tech is European
Our Air forces tech is American
Our Navy is a mix of American and European
>>72936116
she is going to suck and fuck her way towards peace in the middle east since kebabs have no standards.... assuming aids doesnt kill her first
>>72941188
You already DO use the Philippines, but it's a shitty area, that much was proven in WW2, and it's a mess of a country.
I mean, we didn't invite you. You came and you want to stay. Feel free to leave.
Leave the Philippines and Japan too.
Hell, leave Europe.
Again - No one is stopping you.
You DEMANDED to be let in here. We said sure. But we're not going to pay you cash for the privilege.
You want to eavesdrop on Chinese cell phones? Cool. Give us 5,000 Marines to sit around playing Xbox 24 hours a day.
>>72940945
What is phillipines?
What is Guam?
Sounds liek you are the colossal moron mate. The USA doesn't need Australia for staging.
>>72939763
Didn't she also buy a bunch of helicopters that don't work?
>>72941209
>China could flatten anyone other than mongolian sheep herders
There is zero basis for your absurd claim.
>>72941244
Who are we going to fight?
Germany again? Kek.
>>72941265
And the (You)s just keep rolling in. Keep em coming matey, like your missus keeps those lebos cumming.
>>72941159
>buying our land to grow food that magically transports across the world
Yeah definitely not buying it as an insurance policy because of the upcoming collapse in chinese currency.
>>72940701
lmao our econony would fucking shit the bed if china decides to stop trading with us. WA is the money earner after all and once china stops buying those metals from us down goes the rest of the economy. You eastern state scum should at least build up some industry.
>>72941311
>you don't seem to understand how important the USA is when it comes to shipping.
I don't. Enlighten us.
>Billions is nothing to an american. Fucks sake Trump has several billion in his own chest
...and?
>America provides security because of the ANZUS agreement. They already turned their back on NEW zealand for not letting a single ship dock at a new zealand port.
So cancel the agreement. Again, the Americans are the ones asking for these agreements. It's actually made life much more difficult for us.
But they won't, because that's the trade off. You make it sound like it's a fucking charity, or that we ASKED THEM.
When we explicitly asked them NOT to do this to us. The result? Our Prime Minister ousted by the CIA and 40 odd years of co-operation.
If they want to end it, they can. Again, no one is stopping them.
>>72937443
>>72937536
>>72937600
You cunts have no idea. This wasn't a decision based upon which country has the best subs and at what price.
Mal and the gang when "how the fuck can we get some votes in the upcoming election where we need them"
SA marginal overall - could go either way, SA also is dependent upon iron / steel production as an industry (which is has been slapped by china)
So it is no fucking brainer to have the subs built here in SA to get some easy votes.
If the subs didnt get built here billy would have ripped them a new one.
Hence the french cunts who offered to build here won the contract.
go back to shitposting boys
>>72941371
We actually produce quite a lot of things under license.
>>72941390
The Philippines love the US so much I'm sure they'd do whatever it takes to get a permanent residence for a military base there.
Plus with the terrorism going on in their country.
>>72941403
Really poorly located and run U.S. outposts with unreliable governments?
>The USA doesn't need Australia for staging.
Someone forgot to tell the U.S.
Will they stop demanding we operate as such from now on then? Maybe we should charge them for the right?
>>72941515
>Magically transports across the world
You call exporting agricultural goods, one of our three largest industries, magic?
You really are dense.
>>72941549
>WA is the money earner after all and once china stops buying those metals from us down goes the rest of the economy. You eastern state scum should at least build up some industry.
China has stopped buying the metals. The boom is over.
W.A. never earned anywhere near as much as N.S.W. and Victoria.
These are actual facts. Cry more.
Oi don't you talk about my fat wife like that
Since you have no Black men in Straya to inspire to fight for you ,what gives with the fat White woman??
>>72941569
The Germans offered to build the subs here too, for half the price.
>>72941631
Two thirds of their country love you. That two thirds is third world and retarded.
One third hates you, and that third is even more third world and retarded.
>>72941794
>fat husband
>fat wife
posology
>>72941568
Investments have an element of risk to them. Now when there isn't naval hegemony provided by a power like the USA that means there is an increased risk in your investment. This drives up the costs of shipping.
It's pretty fucking simple mate.
>cancel the agreement
>america is the one asking for this agreement
you need to stop posting and go read more mate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS#Origins
>However, the governments of Australia and New Zealand were extremely reluctant to finalise a peace treaty with Japan that would allow for Japanese rearmament. Both countries relented only when an Australian and New Zealand proposal for a three-way security treaty was accepted by the United States.
It was us that demanded it you fucking retard
WE DID ASK THEM YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>72939600
>
The east coast is densely populated while the rest of it is a barren hot desert and other areas with more creatures that can kill you then a jungle alongside a rugged Australian population who knows the terrain and are used to its elements.
It wouldn't be as hard as say... invading the United States, but it would be incredibly challenging nonetheless for any military.
>>72941436
gee whiz you're a dumb cunt. The day war is declared is the day japan will see its military bases btfo by hundreds of chinese rockets
>>72941670
>Guam is an unreliable government
The government of Guam is america you idiot
>>72941957
>The day war is declared is the day japan will see its military bases btfo by hundreds of chinese rockets
which rocket is that exactly? The anti naval fizzler?
>>72941828
>Two thirds
http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/1/
>>72941416
She completely over calculated her budget.
Stupid and sloppy decisions while trying to appear like she knows what she is doing.
>>72941884
>Increased risk
From WHO.
>We asked them
No, we asked for Japan to not be rearmed. The U.S. wanted to rearm Japan to use them as proxy. So we made a deal.
Something Trump would understand.
>>72940263
But everyone agrees Jersey and Guernsey most importantly their own populations. Senkoku are uninhabited and near gas deposits. More likely then the Falklands since their pop also loves being British. At least there's never been a war over them...Oh wait.
>>72941983
I'm sorry, I could have sworn you said Guam AND the philippines, you "idiot".
>>72941957
>China
>Rocket
>Hitting anything further than Taiwan
Too much COD m8.
>>72941737
>doesn't understand mockery
>calls others simple
Do you even know what you're arguing? That we're in some kind of position to boss around China when even the USA gives pause before pissing them off?
>all these australians
>at least a few of them probably aren't shitposting
I feel like I'm on a trip. There's just too much to even hope to know what is real and what is not.
>>72942369
>implying the opinion of the invaders has any weight
And don't worry, the Falklands will soon be in Argentinian territorial waters.
>>72941873
Fun fact: She used to be quite thin and attractive.
I guess being a left wing cunt infiltrating a right wing party takes it's toll.
>>72942073
>>72942401
You're confusing China with North Korea.
>>72941891
No military of any consequence has any interest in invading Australia.
Even our greatest threat, in WW2, the Japanese never considered a ground invasion as it was essentially pointless. They only mobilized an attempt to isolate us because we were a launching pad for U.S. and British operations.
The plan, had they won the war, was to divide us between themselves and Germany.
>putting a bull dyke in charge of your defence
This is ours
>>72936976
Too fat for her tit size to matter
>>72942480
Now
THE GREAT WALL OF
POWER COUPLE
>>72942524
You're confusing China with a country with a capable military that has ever performed a single notable international operation.
>>72942403
>Boss around
...And we want to do that, why?
>>72942619
>You're confusing China with a country with a capable military that has ever performed a single notable international operation.
Spoken like a true anglocuck
>>72937536
You buy icebreakers from us, also. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cXiNk05uQ
>>72942335
>from WHO
fucking anyone you fucking idiot, fuck I might go out and raid some shipping if there is no one there to stop me.
>>72942335
>No
You are wrong. Try reading some history instead of just presuming you know everything.
>Both countries relented only when an Australian and New Zealand proposal for a three-way security treaty was accepted by the United States.
>was accepted by the United States.
>accepted
that means we asked them.
>The U.S. wanted to rearm Japan to use them as proxy.
that didn't happen, did you read that on some blog did you? USA was interested in using South korea as a proxy, not Japan.
>>72942701
Yes. Anglo's are noted for their ability to think rationally and understand geo-politics, hence the successful colonies.
Hows Algeria doing?
>>72942529
>Even our greatest threat, in WW2, the Japanese never considered a ground invasion as it was essentially pointless.
that's a fucking lie. The japanese themselves have admitted and shown they planned to invade australia.
What the fuck do you think the Battle of the Coral sea that happened on the Great Barrier Reef was about?
Why do you think they wanted Port Moresby?
You seem to be clinically fucking retarded and never read any actual history and just make shit up.
>>72941828
A German sub would probably explode on impact screaming like a goat.
The Chinese have always had a shit tier army and always will. Seriously, have they ever won a war against another country and not just themselves?
>>72942733
>fucking anyone you idiot
Concise and well thought out answer.
>We asked them
You mean we asked for a provision in the agreement they wanted to sign?
Oh cool.
Is this like when we asked them to remove Pine Gap and to sit out the Vietnam war?
>that didn't happen
It literally happened and is still happening. These are objective facts, not your paranoid fantasies.
>>72941371
you produce the f88 & ef88 m8
>>72940506
>Keeps shipping lanes secure
Can't even handle a few Somali peasants in rowing boats.
Has to assemble international fleet.
>>72942774
not doing too well desu, low oil price, dying president and all that, but to come back to the subject at hand, do you really think that because a country doesn't boss people around it means it doesn't have a competent military ?
I mean I get it, you like to get the big throbbing american army down your throat but really.
>>72942859
You say you are stating "objective facts" but you haven't provided a single fucking source or even a wikipedia page for any of your claims.
meanwhile I have BTFO of all your stupid and incorrect points.
I'm presuming you don't have a job to go to tomorrow but I actually do so I cant spend another hour showing everyone how retarded you are.
>>72942830
>that's a fucking lie. The japanese themselves have admitted and shown they planned to invade australia.
lol wut?
They drew up proposals and concepts and immediately scuttled them as useless and impractical.
You're historically ignorant.
>Why do you think they wanted Port Moresby
I dunno, according to their own military it was to blockade and isolate Australia to prevent U.S. operations and logistics from being based in Australia.
But hey, you seem to know the secret conspiracy history of the world.
>>72942982
>You're historically ignorant.
>I dunno
>Ignores the fact they bombed the shit out of darwin in preperation for an invasion
I have never claimed to know some secret conspiracy unlike you, I have only referred to actual history not made up david duke tier bullshit
>>72941436
I'd fight Germany again to free them from Merkel.
Even just to see her blow her own brains out desu
>>72942904
>do you really think that because a country doesn't boss people around it means it doesn't have a competent military ?
No, I think because they have a technologically backwards military with incompetent, unskilled and inexperienced leadership that is based entirely around cronyism and bribery that they have an incompetent military.
Do you think because they can field large numbers they HAVE a competent military?
In that case, we should all be shaking in our boots about the Norks.
>>72942967
The fact that the U.S. military has bases and manages the Japanese "military" is a fact so well known that you shouldn't need sauce.
That's like asking for a wikipedia entry on whether Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere.
>>72942480
Bet he thought he got a good deal on a hot red, then she turned into captain Ahab and stole his manhood. rip
>>72943113
>In preparation for an invasion
lol, is that why they bombed Pearl Harbour too?
You should pick up a book and not get all your information from the One Nation supporter down at your local RSL.
>>72943142
>No, I think because they have a technologically backwards military with incompetent, unskilled and inexperienced leadership that is based entirely around cronyism and bribery that they have an incompetent military.
ok senpai
>>72943217
>>72943113
Oh, but in case you need dat der precious sauce;
>The Bombing of Darwin, also known as the Battle of Darwin,[5] on 19 February 1942 was the largest single attack ever mounted by a foreign power on Australia. On that day, 242 Japanese aircraft, in two separate raids, attacked the town, ships in Darwin's harbour and the town's two airfields in an attempt to prevent the Allies from using them as bases to contest the invasions of Timor and Java.
>Official Australian War History, War Memorial, Canberra
>Japan
>Invading Darwin
Where do you get this shit m8?
>>72936116
the secretary of defense role is the new placeholder of diversity hires/that bitch who nobody likes, let's stick her somewhere useless for many western countries. Goes to show what's being prioritized.
Just wait till Emperor Trump starts making you euros pay for your NATO membership. Maybe you'll take your security seriously then.
>>72936116
Those countries haven't needed a legitimate Defense Minister because until now they've been able to rely on the dumb ol' USA to provide security.
Trump will fix that bullshit in a hurry.
>>72943142
Good thing they haven't recently started a modernization of their military or have enough numbers of mindless drones so that they can learn from their mistskes and adapt.
>>72943514
Rip anglobro, Trump will see in the cultural genocide of white Americans. Enjoy the new United States of New Mexico
>>72943514
>U.S. leaves
>Literally nothing changes except we save a few billion on not having to invade the Middle East every other week
We have shit tier defense ministers because we have nothing to defend. The only time anyone tried to blow us up was because there were Americans here.
Our biggest hostile threat is fucking Malaysia.
>>72943604
By the time their military matters I'll be dead anyway.
Not like it's relevant, since China has zero incentive to use it's military ability in a hostile manner against Australia under our current political leadership on either side of the floor.
>>72943856
I don't fucking care if you're dead you hopeless cunt.
I'm most likely going to live into my 80's and I don't intend to have to learn fucking Mandarin in my twilight years.
>>72937812
>don't do anything silly poland
>>72937942
Himmler glasses are a tradition.
>Nobody has posted our minister of health yet
>>72942455
Kek you actually are bJersey and Guernsey are British aren't you.
I'd like to see them try. Their military is in worse shape then the 80s and we butchered them then. Even with you snivelling surrender monkeys selling them exocets after we helped save you from the daily German buttfucking you were getting. The dirty argies only have one fully functioning warship for Christ sake. Another one they had sank while docked. While fucking docked. Plus they are broke as a country.
Yeah mate I'm real scared. Falklands will forever belong to the Crown.
>>72944421
how the fuck did you let this happen?
>>72936116
When did the whole trend of having incompetent women as ministers of defence start anyway?
Seriously, who started this shit and why do they think it's a good idea?
>>72944605
delete this
>>72944605
oh my fuck
>>72944605
seems pretty based tho
>>72944148
Buddy, they don't need a military for that. That's going to happen regardless.
>>72944608
It's "progressive" and appeals to female voters.
Appealing to voters is why we're getting these fucking French submarines anyway;
Option A: Let the U.S. open the naval base in Western Australia that they wanted.
Option B: Buy Submarines and do patrols on their behalf instead.
Option B is more expensive, less practical and inefficient. But it allows our politicians to win votes by;
1. Appealing to MUH EBIL U.S. EMPIRE GO HOME voters.
2. Appealing to MUH STRONG AUSSIE MILITARY BTFO ASIANS flag waving voters.
3. Most importantly; Appealing to South Australian voters, who live in one of our most economically depressed states, who will now get Unionized Labour jobs subsidized by the government that will last for years and years as the French management squabble and redesign the subs a few dozen times based on random suggestions and whims from politicians and military leaders.
>>72944605
Man I loved that meme when hundreds of hungarians sent her facebook comments calling her a fat bitch earlier this year. Good times.
>>72937812
Why is Poland so based
>>72941568
Kill yourself
>>72936116
Allahu akbar. It's a martyrs death.
>>72936569
With a diet coke
>>72942859
Kill yourself
>>72942904
Surrender after like a week isn't competence
>>72944421
NOT SO FAT BELGIUM
>>72939499
> relying on the world Police to defend us from the red menace and Islamic menace.
Are you fucking stupid?
>>72936116
>Drops $50bn on subs
>Turns out to be boats not sandwiches
>>72938771
come on senpai
>>72936569
ISIS is an ice cream brand in Denmark.
>>72947438
No fucking way in hell is that a health minister. If it is, then that nation is is SERIOUS decline.
>>72939395
All Australia needs to defend itself is air superiority. It's modern warfare, aircraft could take out boats from miles away.
>>72938815
all hail our chink overlords. whom have giveth us wealth and can there taketh away
