https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/03/he-thought-he-could-help-concealed-carry-gun-wielder-intervenes-in-domestic-dispute-and-is-shot-dead/?tid=pm_national_pop_b
>Just before noon on Monday, 35-year-old T.J. Antell, who had served in the Marines, watched the unfolding of a domestic dispute between a man and a woman outside a Walgreens in Arlington, Texas, authorities said.
>The man, a soldier stationed at Fort Hood, allegedly fired a gun twice, one bullet burying into the ground and another striking the woman.
>He then climbed into his truck in the parking lot and attempted to leave when Antell tried to stop him.
>Antell, a father of three and CrossFit gym owner, retreated to his vehicle, grabbed his own gun, and approached the shooter, Arlington police said.
>Instead of abiding by Antell’s commands to stop, police said the shooter climbed out of his truck and fired his gun again.
>The shot hit Antell in the head, reported the Dallas Morning News. He was pronounced dead at the scene.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>guns dont kill people
>lets arm teachers
>its an Americans think they are in a John McLain film episode
>>72868309
Yeah screw him for trying huh?
0/10
>Crossfit gym owner
Every asshole who does crossfit thinks they're some tier 1 SF operator, good riddance, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>72868494
>be American
>get shot
He let the perp slap the gun out of his hand and then was shot. He lost his heart and paid for it.
The problem here isn't gun control.
The problem here is trying to intervene a domestic abuse situation. You need to realize that at the end of the day, you're a fucking stranger, and even though these people are beating each other they're still have a relationship and will put you under the bus before they would put each other under the bus.
I've heard so many stories of guys wanting to cape for women being abused only for them to be on the receiving end of a beating from both partners.
There is nothing to gain in playing superman. Call the police at most and keep walking.
>>72868309
>ex-solider actively shooting people
>point gun at him hesitate to shoot and ask him to stop
>surprised when he doesn't stop
>get shot
You draw a gun on someone you use it and only for use in self-defense. He assumed more risk on himself for getting involved.
This man was trying to play hero basically. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Being an armed citizen isn't an invite to be a vigilante.
>>72868309
OOH RA!
That Leatherneck would've never lived it down if he was stopped by a Crossfit SJW.
Don't fk with marines
Don't EVER play captain save a hoe. Ever.
>>72868309
>CrossFit gym owner
T.J "CrosshairFit" Antell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4LxPBk6WHY
Never works out
Aaaaand the shooter.
>US Army
>>72868309
>marine thinks he is some bad ass
>soldier no scope headshots him
>>72868309
lets blame the object instead of the person who controlled it (albeit badly)
by this logic, anyone who wrecks on the autobahn provides justification for outlawing of personal vehicles and their confiscation (for the betterment of the state, of course)
i thought austrians were supposed to be able to apply principles of critical thinking?
>>72868760
>be Austrian
no one knows anything about you
you're completely irrelevant
>>72870047
And?
>>72869824
Trying to save a black woman being beat on by her black man.
Why did he even bother?
>>72868309
>not retreating to cover and then engaging
What is it with Americans growing these obnoxious beards? I mean sure everyone had a beard here 100 years ago, but it seems like only younger Americans do this shit nowadays.
Meanwhile police officers magdump into anyone they encounter
And our tax dollars pay for that
>>72868908
This
>>72868875
this
I shoot my wife everyday
>be american
>point gun at guy and tell him to stop
>watch him get out of his car, gun in hand, and raise his arm towards you
>get shot
american education everybody
>>72870210
Hipsters.
>>72869824
never change /pol/ i was surprised it took this long for someone to mention it.
im sure he dindu nuffin
>>72868494
>stick your nose in other peoples' business
>be surprised when it goes bad
He got no less than he deserved.
>>72870047
austrians/germans have been more relevant to in human history than americans.
>its an Americans think they are in a John McLain film episode
Fucking hell. We do, I really do.
>>72870135
So kill yourself
>>72869824
A revealing selfie provoked the argument
http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/1-dead-several-injured-in-shooting-at-arlington-walgreens.html/
White knight should be shot.
>>72870725
Why?
>>72868309
LOL! Crossfit gym owner thinks he's Jason fucking Bourne. You point a gun in someone's direction, it's not a fucking conversation, you shoot. I'm assuming this idiot had no idea the guy was a soldier, but if he's facing down an angry nigger that just shot a bitch, you should PROBABLY ASSUME he's not going to hesitate to smoke your ass.
>>72868309
Who the fuck tries to "command" people who have already fired their gun several times? At that point you shoot them until they drop.
>>72870210
They're trying to hide their weak jawlines.
>>72869824
>dying trying to save the woman of this thing
I'll taking worse way to waste your life for 1000 Alex
>>72870753
>>72868309
At least he tried.
I doubt you would have had the balls to do this, most likely you're the kind to bow down to shitskins and let them fuck your wife, mother, sister and daughter while you're forced to watch.
>>72870887
People who've been trained with firearms in countries that actually allow you to possess firearms.
You people are missing the point.
If an ex-marine gets killed after even having the time to go get his gun, why would guns ever prevent gun-crime?
I hope the black man gets off for this, and it's excused for self defense.
You know if a white man shot a black guy in this situation he'd get no charges.
>>72868309
Why aren't we gassing the entirety of the American military? Those good for nothing faggots do nothing but stir up shit and go crazy and kill people. Most of them are bigots, too. Complete drains on society.
>>72868875
So if you see some getting murdered on the street just keep walking? Since when are we as inhumane as chinks?
>>72870871
this, guy opens fire... tried to talk to him lol
>>72870999
>I doubt you would have had the balls to do this
The balls? To get into the middle of a domestic squabble between a couple of wild dindus?
Whatever frenchy. Try that shit and enjoy your cultural enrichment.
>>72870624
whats this from?
>>72870047
>Le ur irrelevant kid
I mean I like Americans and all, but its too far in between I see one put up a relevant argument.
>>72871057
Because this situation is identical to every other one.
Not an argument Osterman
>>72868309
Reminds me of a Texas soldier I tweeted with. He didn't like Trump because of muhh torture, this guy probably was the same cuck, hesitant to shoot first
>>72870696
When it comes to atrocities maybe.
>>72871203
Not sure if that anon realized the psycho had already discharged a few rounds.
I would have shot the fucker desu senpai, no talking. Unfortunately this cross fit tard tried it as the guy was already leaving.
Stop replying you fucking idiots
>>72871057
no one here is "missing the point"
do you really want me to spam this thread with news articles of gun owners protecting themselves/families from criminals?
do you really want that?
>http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/woman-80-fatally-shoots-intruder-after-he-stabs-her-husband/
>http://abc7ny.com/news/ct-store-owner-fires-shot-at-would-be-robbers-sends-them-fleeing/1304768/
>http://www.wyff4.com/news/gun-owner-who-ended-manhunt-i-told-him-to-get-down/39181358
>http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/police-respond-to-string-of-robberies/nq2sK/
>>72868309
You're laughing at a guy who got shot trying to stop another guy who shot a woman? You're a confirmed faggot, OP.
>>72870696
Yeah the ones that come too America that is.
>>72870999
>At least he tried.
Never come between a bro and his degenerate ho.
>>72871203
>white knight detected
>>72871470
or getting btfo by americans
>>72871584
Honestly either blast him if need be or just at least try and treat the girl who got shot.
>>72870135
Fuck. It's getting harder and harder to repel this meem staus.
>>72870210
It has to do with copying what they believe SF operator types are doing. It got popular over in Afghanistan, kids here copy them.
>>72871057
The fact that he was an ex-marine is probably what led him to that mindset of "I'm going to go play captain save-a-hoe"
He tried to gain control of the situation, acting more like a peace officer than a armed citizen. A marine isn't used to that, being a citizen I mean.
You have no back up if your shot at.
You have no one nearby with medical training and equipment
You have a false sense of confidence and try to gain control of the situation
You die for it
It's that simple. An Armed citizen ONLY draws in self-defense and you don't hesitate when the moment comes.
Do you have any idea how many cases of successful self-defense incidents that go unreported?
>>72869824
Colored me surprised.
>>72869079
The crossfit owner WAS the marine, retard. Ooh Ra.
>>72871930
I'm with you, you either shoot without saying anything; anyone, who's an aggressor, and fires their weapon in public for no reason has lost the privilege of trying to be reasoned with.
He should have just taken care of the chick who got punched
>>72868309
>Instead of abiding by Antell’s commands to stop, police said the shooter climbed out of his truck and fired his gun again.
So he never used his gun. What a fucking retard. You put that monster six feet under the second you have a clear shot.
>>72871470
>>72871872
no im talking about the bottomline of influence on history and scientific, philosophical and other achievments.
>>72868309
>be American
>ban guns
>get knifed by nigger
If you pull out your gun, FUCKING USE IT.
It's CC 101
>>72869222
Witnessed!
>>72872222
You either shoot without saying anything, or get shot*
>>72871057
And what point is that? If you're gonna shoot...shoot....don't talk.
>>72871203
Well he is dead now.
So...yeah he probably would of been better in just calling the police and leave well enough alone.
>>72868309
>crossfit
>beard
You sure the gun killed him?
>>72868309
>Telling someone who just shot someone else to please stop and not just emptying the clip into his truck
Natural selection if you ask me.
>>72870999
>At least he tried.
Why would he meddle into the personal affairs of another couple they do not know their problems. I read the article and I can tell you, the dindu ain't that bad.
Its the other who pulled a gun out and DEMANDED some outrages bullshit in which later he got shot. You just can't point a gun at someone and not expect anything to happen.
What is it about Fort Hood that breeds crazies?
Having said that, this guy seems to have made the one mistake you should never make. He wasn't prepared to take a life when he pulled his gun. He tried to use it as a deterrent and didn't have the mindset of being ready to pull the trigger if need be.
Just gonna leave this here.
he should have been carrying. Instead of keeping his gun in his car. Then he could have drawn on the man and had the initiative. He also should have shot the man when he got out of his truck to shoot at him.
>>72870996
Lovely nigress I must say
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>>72870487
Nice bantz, leaf
>>72871033
Seems that civilian firearm/crossfit training really helped him here. Every 18 year old male should be put in basic military training either through a registered militia or the armed forces. No excuses.
>>72871203
>murder in the street
>a couple fighting
Are the same thing ?
>>72868309
Umm
I'm pretty sure when you see somebody shooting people, you blow them away. You don't walk up and try to reason with them with a gun in their face. What a retard.
>>72868309
best wishes go to that man's family. May they pass through the pain and move on as quickly as possible. And may that army vet get what he deserves, raped, by a bigger blacker guy, then get turned over to an in the closet heterosexual like myself
>>72870172
>not waiting for the tank division
>not calling for air support
>>72868760
>cause both world wars
>nobody cares
>>72872560
What he said.
>>72871033
I'd like to meet someone who would actually call it training to instruct someone to point a loaded firearm at another person who also is carrying (and has recently fired at another person) and then try to give that person commands. "PUT YOUR GUN ON THE GROUND! WHERE'S THE BOMB?! TELL ME ABOUT BANE!" That's not how shit works duder. There's not really any scenario where you approach someone who has a gun with a gun and do anything but unload on them and then claim that you were using your super duper operator training. Little common sense here guy.
>>72873338
>not getting a 7 kill streak and then calling in the gods
baka
>>72873500
>dogs*
fuck i might have lysdexia
>>72868309
Having a conceal and carry gun is to protect you and your loved ones, it is not there for you to police other people and get into fights with them. Getting into fights with other adults who have guns is a bad idea. Adult fights often end up deadly, so realize that instead of believing that the world is like a schoolyard. That sucks that he got shot in the head, pretty shitty of that nigger to do that instead of unloading a few rounds in the torso so at least he would have a fighting chance. And if you do get into a fight, make sure to kill the other person before he decides to end your life.
Moral of the story:
>dont be a white knight
That shit will get you killed.
>>72868309
>CrossFit gym owner
Average faggot with a beard doing crossfit thinking he is a hard ass.
that shit form probably fucked up his aim to top it off
>>72870502
See this is why cops shoot niggers first before asking questions. Every now and then nigs get a lucky shot in.
>>72868309
should have minded his own business and not gotten involved in monkeyshines. If you want to help, call the police and record plate #'s
God, look at this. What a fucking piece of shit. Firing a gun at a shoplifter.
Important to remember that these are rare cases and that it is no argument against being allowed to protect yourself, but some people are inept of brain.
>>72870999
He acted like a fucking idiot and wasn't trained to deal with the situation. There's a reason cops (and the military) in the process of apprehending someone, will tell that person to show their hands etc. - the implication being that if the person doesn't or otherwise makes a move, then they absolutely will not hesitate to put them down. This fuckwit pointed a gun at the guy and DIDN'T shoot which is against absolutely fucking everything you're ever told when trained in these situations.
And he had a kid. What a fucking clown.
>>72868309
so nignog in the fight with wife pulled a gun on her? then murrica tried to save the day, nig ran, he followed and got shot there?
>>72874732
>has a wife and kid
>pulls a stunt like this
I absolutely agree with you. What the hell was going on in that brain of his to point a gun at another person and not expect them to open fire on you. Which is why if you point a gun at someone you should already be shooting. If someone goes back into their truck and is going away, let the police apprehend him later. What was this guy thinking, now he left behind his wife and kid...
His intentions for owning that gun was probably to protect his family, so I really don't understand why he did this. Small minds here.
>>72875402
so the nig first pulled gun on wife?
>>72868309
Why is /pol/ always so right?
>>72868309
>CrossFit gym owner
Literally deserved to die
>>72868760
the butthurt you inflicted on
>>72870047
>>72873352
delicious
>>72875696
Don't be surprised if this guy gets away with the killing. He'll get charged with discharging a firearm in public or some shit but he was well within his rights to shoot the white guy.
>>72868908
Worse than that. Article says the dude slapped the gun out of his hand. FFS, he was within arms reach of an armed aggressor and didn't fire!?!
>>72868309
Having a CCW doesn't mean you're no longer eligible for the Darwin awards.
The lady had gone back in the store, the 'shooter' was attempting to flee, he had no need to intervene.
>>72868908
Current soldier and ex soldier in a gun fight.
>>72868309
Defending roasties ever. Fuckin pleb.
>>72868908
>defending someone else from attempted murder is vigilantism
>>72868309
>and CrossFit gym owner
deserved it tbqh
>>72875862
>He'll get charged with discharging a firearm in public or some shit but he was well within his rights to shoot the white guy.
>attempted murder of his girlfried
>murder of soemone attempting to participate in good samaritan laws
He will get one count murder one attempted at the very least.
The democrats are running with this to try and say nobody should be allowed to carry.
Fuck that, this guy fucked up.
If you see a nigger shooting at a woman empty two mags into him, don't try to reason with wild animals.
Just deport all niggers, crimerate would suddenly fall due to magic.
>>72875880
Like I said. He was acting like a marine when he should have been thinking like a civilian.
>>72876222
Defending others can and has backfired on people before. You can try it but don't get ass blasted when results end up like how this story played out.
>>72875989
Marine and Ex-Soldier in a gun fight.
Read the story ffs.
>>72876318
>magic
>>72871584
He should have shot the other guy the second he saw him moving out of the truck. You get shot acting like some hero. If you have your gun out you need to be prepared to shoot the second you see a threat. Not wave it around trying to deescalate or some shit.
>>72876422
It's clearly meme magic since they dindu nuffin.
>>72876528
clearly
>>72868309
The guy did the right thing. He was unlucky. He should've just opened fire from the start.
>>72876222
Sadly based brittrips, it usually is, and definitely would have been in this case. Most likely the man who got shot knew this so tried to use the gun as a tool of leverage rather than a means to end the fight by shooting the man.
>>72876662
But anon, facts are racist. They're all good boys.
>>72876422
Statistics are racis anon. They were invented by the white man to keep POC down. How fucking dare you, you shitlord.
>>72876836
I agree
>>72870651
>>72876906
yes
>>72871140
Pussy. Why don't you do it yourself?
>>72876274
They'll charge him with the girlfriend shit - no doubt - but it's hard to see anything else sticking given he was leaving the scene and a guy - regardless of whether he was playing good samaritan or not - shoved a gun in his face. It's unreasonable to expect the black guy to place his life in the hands of some (a far as he knew) civvie who may or may not shoot him. It's simple self-defence.
>>72869824
Always...
>>72868309
>crossfit
When will they learn
>>72877289
I'll be very eager to see how this plays out in court. It will be interesting to see if the defense attorney goes the self-defense route.
>>72868309
>crossfit
>beard
>tattoos
>backward hat
douche
Crossfit faggot got himself killed for being a retard.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A BAD GUN OWNER.
If you pull a gun out you should raise it and fire until your target is dead. Doing anything else is moronic.
>>72870210
Why not? Beards are intimidating and women like them.
>>72868760
Be anything else
Get invaded and rape-cucked by muslims
Have bad teeth
Get bombed by americans
Not be a millionaire
Rape children
Get beheaded by members of your own religion
>>72876402
>Marine and Ex-Soldier in a gun fight.
Former Marine and current US Army soldier.
>>72877289
Yes, but the prosecutor will argue that his previous actions led to the intervention.
His attempt to flee an attempted murder scene and consequent murder will be connected
>>72868857
Yeah he would have been cleared and set free by the cops if he had unloaded on the nigger
>>72877538
It seems cut and dried to me. A guy who isn't a cop stuck a gun in his face and he reacted to remove that threat.
Which only makes Crossfit guy's part in this even more fucking dumb as it will be for nothing.
>>72874732
Actually, bonger, marines are trained to deal with situations exactly like this.
>>72877945
>current US Army soldier.
Obamas military in a nutshell
>>72877623
Completely agree. Never ever point a gun at someone if you don't know, for certain, that you will use it.
This is what we get for bringing up a generation of kids who think Greedo shot first
>>72869222
The bitch owes his dead body a blowjob
>>72877289
>>72877289
Disarming someone and then killing them after shooting someone in public is not self defense it's straight up murder after an attempted murder. To argue self defense would be an embarrassment.
>>72869824
Niggerrrr
>anecdotal story comes out
>shills come out of the woodwork to hurr durr and shitpost on the constitution
the guy just had poor judgement, most of the time the CCW owner wins because they are smart enough to magdump a nigger before asking questions
>>72878054
I don't know that they can charge him with murder; he was reacting to a threat.
I dunno. You might be right. I'm not a lawyer so it will be interesting to see how it goes down in court.
>>72868309
>GUN CONTROL
no nigger control
>>72877755
>hobo look
>intimidating
>>72868309
>guns used hundreds of thousands of times a year to defend people and themselves alike
>one guy dies
>WE NEED MORE GUN CONTROL
>>72876402
It was an ex-Marine and a current soldier you dipshit.
ex-Marine died to current soldier who also shot his wife.
I guarantee this gets played off as he dindu nuffin he was ptsd it's the military's fault.
If a gun does not even help an elite special forces soldier to defen himself than how'd you expect the a v e r a g e Lard will do it...
>>72878468
w2c lego panzer?
>>72868309
>Bradden was driving away from the scene when he called and confessed to several Army supervisors at Fort Hood that he had slapped the gun out of Antell’s hand and shot him
>he had slapped the gun out of Antell’s hand and shot him
Tip top kek
He was stupid. Don't draw a gun unless you plan to shoot it.
>I'll just pull out my gun to threaten him until police arrive!
Fucking retard.
>>72878146
>It seems cut and dried to me. A guy who isn't a cop stuck a gun in his face and he reacted to remove that threat.
You would be wrong, you can't shoot at someone and then kill the first person that tries to stop you from leaving and expect not to get a murder charge.
What if he was an off duty cop or plainclothes?
Citizens arrest is still viable in some municipalities.
>>72878498
>I don't know that they can charge him with murder; he was reacting to a threat.
A threat he created by attempting shooting someone else
If I rob a liqour store and shoot the clerk and then attempt to get in my getaway car and a CCW pulls a gun on me and I kill him I am not going to be able to use self defense.
This nig WILL NOT be able to use self defense in court unless you have some libshit nig judge.
>>72868309
>try to be a vigilante instead of helping the woman that just got shot
>grab your own gun and confront the shooter instead...
>...but don't shoot him, just let him shoot you
As expected of a crossfit guy. Just all around retardation.
His mistake was trying to reason with a chimpening nigger. If he would've shot first he would still be alive
>>72878737
>I guarantee this gets played off as he dindu nuffin he was ptsd it's the military's fault.
Not in Texas. Texas courts can be pretty fucking based.
>>72878738
Except they do it all the time and an anecdote isn't an argument.
>>72868309
Better to go out trying to do some good in this fucked-up world, Eurofaggot, than just sit back and suck another Muslim cock as your people seem to be content with.
RIP to a guy who should have shot first rather than risking his own life.
>>72878213
Yeah but the training is if the other guy doesn't do what you fucking tell him, you put him down.
If you tell the dude to put his hands on his head and he doesn't, you shoot him. This fucking idiot let the guy ignore him and climb out of the truck. If Crossfit guy had been serious in his intervention, the dindu would have been smoked the second he reached for the door handle.
>>72879134
Did I mention that he used to be involved in Holy Crossfits
>>72879088
Wasn't really talking about the courts, though good to hear it's in Texas, I meant more in the media, if it even makes it there.
>>72878738
>elite special forces
He was a dumbass that drew on someone fleeing and then got close enough to have his gun slapped out of his hand.
If he was going to pull his gun he should have done so when the shooting was occurring and mag dumped.
>>72868760
Thanks for Glock, though. Now go fuck yourself back to slavery, euronigger
>>72879134
Justice boner swelling.
>>72868587
![5ca06e8b28a52e88b88eeea8fcc20ee8[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EW1C2yp.jpg "5ca06e8b28a52e88b88eeea8fcc20ee8[3].jpg")
>>72878529
>looking like a little boy
Leafy plz
>>72876713
Degenerate faggot.
>>72878738
But a gun does help. His problem was that he didn't use it.
>man cuts wife with machete
>cockfighting ring owner intervenes with his own machete.
>Man steps back out of truck and cuts cockfighting ring owner with machete as whiteknight doesn't do shit.
How is this about guns again?
>>72868309
>Austrian laughing at a white man dying for trying to do the right thing
Sounds about right. Thankfully the nigger is going to get a needle in his arm because he shot a Marine in Texas.
>>72870047
>Glock
>Franz schubert
>FUCKING HITLER
Irrelevant? Goddamn stop riding coat tails and do something with your life.
damn hahaha he confronted a veteran too - the guy had no chance lmao
>>72872781
So basically... This was a defensive shooting?
>>72880357
Neither of these look good on account of being fat fucks
>>72868309
>this gets on national news
The agendas are strong
>>72876318
Oy gevalt!
B-b-but Anon, if more niggers stay in the US, t-then Africa will have somewhat less crime, so let's keep those biological cement shoes around!
>>72871203
She wasn't getting murdered. She was getting beat by her boyfriend. Don't white knight abuse victims it almost never works. There is a reason she is still with him despite the fact that he hits her. They have a fucked up emotional bond. Its not a good or healthy one but it is one. She may be getting beat but she would still rather protect her boyfriend from a rando.
>>72882705
She was shot in the leg or foot, had enough time to hobble back into Walgreens and yell at her coworkers to lock the door.
>>72882035
But which one would you rather fistfight with?
>>72883353
why would I engage in nigger activity with anyone?
>>72883353
Choosing between a nu-male liberal and a manchild? Fuck it, I'll fight both at the same time
>>72868309
This is why you when you pull your weapon, you use it. Also, don't get within arms length. Engage from cover, at a distance. If you are going to carry a concealed weapon you should understand the basics of combat handgunnery.
>>72868309
Domestic dispute.
Key word there: domestic.
Nothing fixes a domestic dispute. The police are worse than useless. The feminists are angry at the laws they wrote.
>>72868309
>CrossFit gym owner
Into the bin he goes. Mans got to know his limitations as Dirty Harry said.
>>72878905
>You would be wrong, you can't shoot at someone and then kill the first person that tries to stop you from leaving and expect not to get a murder charge.
>What if he was an off duty cop or plainclothes?
>Citizens arrest is still viable in some municipalities.
But self defense is a viable excuse when some stranger points a gun at you and starts ordering you around. Who knows what the hell they're thinking?
>>72868494
>stick your nose where it don't belong
>be surprised when it's chopped off
I wish more pro gun nutjobs have this happen to them
>>72868309
I love how the WaPo article is just exultant at this guy's death.
>>72868309
>Moron is dead
>Nigger going to jail
What's the bad side of this?
>>72868309
>CrossFit gym owner
he never had a chance
>>72868309
I love how this gets the Washington Post treatment, but the several other occurrences of successful self defense go completely without mention.
No bias, none whatsoever, I'm sure.
A memorial fund was set up to help the deceased's family (his wife and three children), Jewgle:
>T.J. Antell Memorial Fund
>>72871642
Notice how the OP gets the washington post treatment, big top of the line national news.
And notice how the successful self defenses get regulated to low viewership, local news in the same time span.
They want the idea that self defense is worthwhile buried. They want the 'effective self defense' meme to die, and they're doing it.
>>72868309
Woulda been fine if the pussy had shot first.
>>72885621
so when there's 3 niggers raiding your house that shot your wife and kids, you wont want the cops to come because thats your own business, right? nice
>>72874177
>Important to remember that these are rare cases and that it is no argument against being allowed to protect yourself
But that's exactly what's being argued, by saying self defense is pointless and you shouldn't do it because you're more likely to harm yourself and others than protect yourself.
It's like that "lets not turn this rape into a murder joke" except siding with the rapist. Don't fight back, or he might hurt you more. Self defense is harmful.
And it's being done by pushing articles that frame self defense, concealed carry and guns in a very negative light to the forefront of a national newspaper, while burying successful self defense cases in the smallest local outlets in the middle of Nowhere, USA.
It's propaganda to make people think that self defense is a bad idea.
>>72868309
President.
Donald.
J.
Trump.
>CrossFit gym owner
>/pol/ if I had a gun I would have stopped that nigger!
good guy gets shot trying to stop nigger
>what a idiot
You guys are cowards
>>72886624
They're pissing their pants with joy because they can use it as a great story for self defense, concealed carry all failing.
You can't defend yourself, here's a Washington Post article where a marine with a concealed carry permit died trying to help someone. See, we need more gun control, defensive gun use is a myth and gets people killed.
They couldn't have made a better story if they tried, and they sure do all the time.
>>72890016
This.
If you look at the actual situation, OP is lying. The gun owner was not entering some private residence to white knight away a shouting match. The murderer here was totally out of control and was firing wildly in public.
>>72869824
>You get any confirmed kills?
>>72868309
Why would he try to whiteknight it up and stop the guy? Especially if he wasn't carrying in the first place
Pretty dumb, should have just rendered basic aid to the woman and waited for EMTs
>>72877897
>Be a millionaire
This is the country that has tipping because the working class are poverty tier
>>72868309
>belligerent man
>has a gun
>clearly has no problem using it
>dumbfuck still tries to talk him down instead of putting him down
>>72889834
Except that is the cops job.
it's not anyone's job to fucking avenge a total stranger getting shot non-fatally.
>>72868309
Stay out of Arlington. It has been taken over by niggers
>>72869079
kek nice reading skills you disposable cannon fodder
>>72878769
wow
>>72892068
This
>>72892634
Yeah, no one should try to save a human fucking life is possible or anything.
Fuck him for trying help.
I guess the Swiss have got the neutrality thing so down they'd just pass up some woman getting raped and just go. "Can't help you lady, that's the cops job. Hope they show up in time."
>>72872348
Philosophies like the final solution amirite?
>>72889834
>so when there's 3 niggers raiding your house that shot your wife and kids,
It wasn't his house that was getting raided
>>72892634
>it's not anyone's job to fucking avenge a total stranger getting shot non-fatally.
Self Defense laws can apply to protection of other people.
It isn't your job, no, but its a well meaning act, even if he completely blew it
>>72893389
>Self Defense laws can apply to protection of other people.
He was driving away in his truck.
Mr. Domestic Saviour walked up to the truck with the gun in his hands. Nigger got out, slapped the gun out of his hands and shot him in the head.
That's not self defense by any stretch of imagination, it's being a white knight and getting shot because you pissed off a nigger with no impulse control (as he has just demonstrated)
A truly well meaning act would've been GIVING THE VICTIM FIRST AID. I don't know why nobody thinks of this. You see somebody get shot and the perp drive away, WHY THE FUCK would you not go help the victim? Why would you go after the perp with your gun instead?
He was trying to play cop, that's why. To his detriment, he wasn't as triggerhappy as a real cop, so he got shot. End of the story.
>>72868309
RIP Cuck.
He got involved in some shit that didn't involve him, and paid the price. Learn from his mistake and mind your own business (and live)
>>72868309
He tried to talk to him. Then he just let him get out of the car when he knew the guy would use the gun.
If you're going to draw on someone you should be shooting them
>>72868309
I knew that guy, hah. He was a douche.
>>72893274
You're just helping his case.
>>72868309
WHITE KNIGHTS LITERALLY BTFO
>>72893785
>That's not self defense by any stretch of imagination
Except it is, well it is defense of another.
>He was driving away in his truck.
>Mr. Domestic Saviour walked up to the truck with the gun in his hands
So you are suggesting just let him flee? And you are suggesting he walk up to a man who is known to be armed with his gun not drawn?
>He was trying to play cop, that's why.
He was trying to defend a member of his community.
>>72893785
>A truly well meaning act would've been GIVING THE VICTIM FIRST AID.
I'm impressed, every civilian where you live has to knowledge to be giving first aid to someone who has suffered a gun shot?
>>72868309
felt bad until i heard he did crossfit
fuck those guys
>>72895093
>Except it is, well it is defense of another.
The dude was leaving in his truck. I'm pretty sure you don't have the right to shoot a suspected criminal unless they are literally trying to kill you. This idiot was trying to be Batman here.
>>72868309
Another white knight goes down. Don't do that guys.
>>72872452
Someone, put Ted Cruz's head on that wrestler
>>72895093
>Except it is, well it is defense of another.
>He was driving away in his truck.
It is not self defense or defense of another if he was fleeing.
>So you are suggesting just let him flee?
Yes. The woman is alive, she knows who the man is. Why would catching him be a priority, let alone a priority for a civilian?
>And you are suggesting he walk up to a man who is known to be armed with his gun not drawn?
Really? Is that what you got from my post?
No, I'm suggesting he should just let him drive away. Not his problem.
>>72895262
>every civilian where you live has to knowledge to be giving first aid to someone who has suffered a gun shot?
Yes, most do. Infact, you need to know this in order to have a driver's license and many people know it regardless.
And even if you don't, calling ambulance is more important than trying to arrest a man when you're not even a cop.
And please please stop saying it was self-defense, defense of another, or defense of anything. Read the article. The nigger was IN HIS TRUCK. He was driving away or about to. He was no further threat to the woman.
>>72875577
>so the nig first pulled gun on wife?
You are surprised by this?
>>72894028
>He tried to talk to him.
Yeah. Unfortunately, likely in the heat of the moment, he appears to have forgotten the single most important variable at play here: he was facing a nigger, and he erroneously tried to talk the nigger out of it and likely took the niggers' word for it.
He relaxed.
NEVER relax.
>>72875402
Holy fuck, he shot first? CCW holder had the greenlight to flatten this guy. I am extremely pro second amendment but I got my CCW in 12 hours and there were people who couldn't even rack the slide on their new guns who were passing the test with me. It's too easy to get, easier than a driver's license.
Oh well, his right and choice to play hero. Rip
>>72868309
>crossfit
He deserved to die. It was a mercy really, before snapcity got to him.
>>72871383
You picked 1 comment among dozens of quality posts. Idiot got involved, didn't act decisively, and died for his efforts.
>>72896338
>>72896289
I like to imagine that he lowered his gun because
>wait. BLM showed me that I should not shoot this man simply because he's black. I would be no better than a racist cop. Maybe we'll just talk it ou-BLAM
Sounds like the guy with the gun unnecessarily escalated the situation
>>72868309
>MSM picks up on outlier situation that fits their narrative
>misses the hundreds of stories that only make it to local news if lucky where guns prevent crime
ok
>>72868309
THIS IS ALWAYS WHAT GUN CARRIERS REALLY IMAGINE IN THEIR IDIOT HEADS.
Because their gun is NOT to "protect themselves", it is to PROJECT their power onto other people.
btw, little dick gun fags, the Second Amendment ENSHRINES government regulation.
>>72868760
>be Austria
>Heil Hitler
>>72872856
You just bought yourself a bailout.
>>72896954
The guy with the gun being the violent boyfriend.
>post something anti-concealed carry
WE CAN PUT A HALT TO CRIME! WITH GUNS EVERYWHERE THEY'LL BE TOO AFRAID TO COMMIT CRIME!
>guy exercises his concealed carry right and gets royally BTFO by a criminal who didn't even stop to think about the guys gun
HAHA WHAT AN IDIOT! IF (insert every /pol/ack here) I WOULD HAVE SHOT HIM IMMEDIATELY AND SAVED M'LADY!
sometimes I forget /pol/ is satire
>>72868587
>>72868309
>crossfit gym owner
makes sense
>>72868309
>crossfit gym owner
>>72870047
Are you sure?
>crossfit gym owner
not sad to see him dead as fuck tbqh
>Marine gets his gun slapped out of his hand
And you wonder why you haven't won a war in 71 years, and even that didn't really count.
>>72869222
This. Women are responsible for the men they choose to date. You may as well try and help someone who jumps into a lion pit.
>Hurr, I'll go out with this unemployed, aggressive nigger. What's the worst than can happen?
>>72892634
Self-defense applies to the lives of other. A man is fleeing the scene of an assault with deadly weapon; he could clearly be a very real threat to the next group of people he encounters. This is how shooting sprees start.
>>72876274
>If you see a nigger shooting at a woman empty two mags into him,
Fuck you, white knight. You dont know what happened beforehand. Maybe the woman started it. Maybe she tried to stab him or shoot him and he was acting in self defense.
Always blame the man. You goddamn feminist.
>>72869222
Forever and always.
ffs, white knights need to stop trying to intervene in "domestic disputes." just fucking call the police you fucker. you're not gonna get any pussy out of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Leone
>>72897962
>he could clearly be a very real threat to the next group of people he encounters. This is how shooting sprees start.
Do you have a precedent case?
>>72870210
OBVIOUSLY HE WAS A LUMBERJACK
GOD HAD PLANS FOR THIS CROSSFAG HERO
