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TRUMPKINS ON SUICIDE WATCH
CRUZ VICTORY IMMINENT
CRUZ/FIORINA 2016
In Indiana's Republican presidential primary, Cruz is favored by 44.8 percent of survey respondents, compared with 29 percent for Trump and 13.3 percent for Ohio Gov. John Kasich, the Downs Center said. Thirteen percent of respondents said they were undecided.
Despite the wide margin between Cruz and New York City real estate developer Trump, who is the national front-runner for the Republican nomination, the Downs Center cautioned "the race still could be in flux" because of the number of undecided voters, Kasich's decision this week not to campaign in Indiana as part of a reported agreement with Cruz and Cruz's announcement Wednesday that Carly Fiorina would be his running mate if he would become the GOP nominee.
The poll found that 57 percent of Cruz's supporters are women, compared with 44.8 percent for Trump, who has made disparaging remarks about certain women during his campaign.
http://www.journalgazette.net/news/local/indiana/Young--Cruz-favored-by-Hoosier-Republicans-in-IPFW-poll-12818419
If Cruz seriously steals the nomination in a contested convention, I'm voting Shillary.
>>72469966
LOL they started this poll over two weeks ago. this is a complete outlier
>>72470267
>The survey was conducted among 400 registered likely voters in Indiana April 13–27 and has a margin of error of 4.9 percentage points.
>>72469966
>Downs Center
Makes a lot of sense
Cruz can win everything between now and convention and it still won't matter.
Cruz was eliminated a long time ago.
>>72469966
The poll was started two weeks ago, has a smaller sample size than others, and completely contradicts not only the polls that have been made public, but even Cruz's and Trump's internal polling that have been leaked as well.
So much butthurt after Trump wins Indiana assuming the establishment doesn't try to pull some last minute rigging. This is Cruz's pathetic last stand to try and steal the nomination after all.
Lyin Ted
Oh, I forgot to mention.
Its the only poll showing anything like this whereas every other poll shows a Trump lead.
Trump is still going to win Indiana and the nomination. A botched poll isn't going to change that.
>>72470431
And if Trump gets anything under 1237 delegates, the GOPe won't hesitate to hand the nomination to Cruz or Kasich.
>>72469966
>the Downs Center
literal garbage poll
>>72470641
How is this supposed to work, exactly?
There isn't some secret council in a back room who decides the nominee. The nominee is the one who gets 50%+1 delegates.
Ted would somehow need to flip 400-500 delegates to vote for him before Trump could flip 0-100.
It makes no sense for Teddy to stay in the race at this point- even if there was a contested convention, he can't win on a 2nd, 3rd, or 500th ballot.
>>72470641
They can threaten that all they want but they have already shown their balls to be nonexistant.
They would be piss scared of Trump voters staying home.
Denying Trump would be the fastest way to give Hillary Clinton the presidency.
>>72469966
Wow you could make a lot of money betting on Cruz in Indiana, got enough confidence to bet your shill money on Cruz to win Indiana?
>>72469966
>CRUZ VICTORY IMMINENT
Is it even possible at this point?
>The poll found that 57 percent of Cruz's supporters are women, compared with 44.8 percent for Trump, who has made disparaging remarks about certain women during his campaign.
Only Rosie O'Donnell
>>72469966
2/10
It took effort for sure, but after the last 2 days its too late for this post to work.
>>72470361
>400 voters
![black-woman-throwing-her-head-back-laughing[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NnWrDNz.jpg "black-woman-throwing-her-head-back-laughing[1].jpg")
>>72470120
Drumpfkins THIS MAD
>>72470872
Delegates will vote the way the Party wants them to vote.
>>72470907
Except the republicans would rather have Hillary than Trump.
>>72469966
Now it's pretty much proven that Lyin' Ted cannot be president because he's not born/native/naturalized in the US. So if he wins, he's ultimately OUT of the race. Meaning whoever wins on the Democratic side will become President by default.
>shillary
Anything Lyin' Ted is doing is just an act to get her in.
>>72469966
This. Ted Cruz is the only one who can truly win and secure the nomination.
>>72471195
I agree. Ted Cruz is going to win. Donald Trump is a Chaos Candidate.
>>72470872
>Ted would somehow need to flip 400-500 delegates
A good chunk of the delegates are party insiders or Cruz supporters only voting for Trump on the first ballot because they are bound based on how the people voted. In particular, Cruz has had his staff in several states rigging the process for selecting the actual delegates to be in his favor should the contested convention occur.
>>72470641
>the GOPe won't hesitate to hand the nomination to Cruz
They aren't Rattos biggest fans either last time I checked.
But anyway, its an outlier and weak poll according to 538:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/indiana-republican/#polls-only
And Trump doesn't need Indiana:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/upshot/donald-trump-doesnt-need-indiana-anymore.html?_r=0
>>72471195
>>72471231
>>72469966
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/in/indiana_republican_presidential_primary-5786.html
LMAO fucking idiot. Look at it compared to the other polls, its obvious what went on here. Even with that huge outlier of a poll added to the average Trump is leading.
>>72470120
I'm pretty sure all of /pol/ would start supporting Hillary just to spite Cruz.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/in/indiana_republican_presidential_primary-5786.html
>>72471135
Unless Trump bribes just enough delegates to win the first round, which is allowed.
>>72469966
>400 sample size
>18 day period
Ayyy
>>72469966
Cruz will probably win Indiana. He'll definitely get Nebraska. But then what? Trump will get West Virginia for sure. He'll also probably get Oregon and Washington. Not even June yet, and that gives him about a hundred delegates on top of what he already has. Then he waits until June, California happens, and Trump wins. The other states hardly even matter, California is almost enough for him to win by itself, and you're delusional if you think a bible-thumper like Cruz has any chance there.
Trump will win the Republican primaries. If the party choose to nominate someone else anyway, it will be the death of the GOP and the birth of a new political party under whatever name he chooses. The kind of support he has doesn't just go away. The party can either embrace Trump or be destroyed by him.
>>72469966
>400 sample size
>18 day period
Okay
>>72471305
If they seriously take away the nomination that got more votes in the primary than the last republican candidate, Romney, there will be hell to pay.
>>72471133
Get out of my country nigger.
>>72471431
There's no bribery in the first round.
>>72471569
There's still "unbound" delegates on the first round.
>>72471438
>~20 respondents/day
Fuck ass lazy
>>72470120
>>72471399
Nah you guys would vote Cruz.
If Cruz does win Indiana, it is almost certain that he will end up winning the nomination on the second ballot at the convention.
>>72471569
>>72471431
>>72471682
He got support of about 50 unbound delegates in Pennsylvania
>>72471695
Low energy
>>72469966
If cruz is about to winwhy is he holding a gun to his head and about to kill himself op ?? I am worried about cruz...
>>72471766
That's assuming that half of Trump's delegates are 1. secretly Cruz supporters and 2. actually willing to vote Cruz when Trump is so close. Both are very big "ifs".
>>72469966
>The poll found that 57 percent of Cruz's supporters are women, compared with 44.8 percent for Trump, who has made disparaging remarks about certain women during his campaign.
women say disparaging remarks about other women all the time. bitches be catty as fuck yo
>>72469966
>Believing outlier polls that have the same sample size as other polls
Sure thing, OP
>>72471922
There's nothing secret about it. Trumps delegates are mostly party loyalists are who will vote whichever way the GOP tells them to in the event of a contested convention.
However, it's becoming increasingly unlikely that there will be a contested convention. California alone will give Trump at least half of what he needs.
If they fuck us and give it to Rato, we're finished.
Well, the GOP is, anyway. Hillghazi will make
America more hellish and divided until
we balkanize after civil war 2.
>>72470120
>>72471399
>>72471766
If Cruz gets the nomination I think /pol/ would back Gary Johnson (and rightly so)
On that note, a Gary Johnson/Trump ticket would be perfect
>>72471922
If Trump doesn't win on the first ballot hundreds and hundreds of his delegates will jump ship. This is already a fait accompli.
If Trump is going to win he needs to either get to 1237 before the convention. Or get 1237 on the first vote of the convetion.
If Cruz wins Indiana both are virtually impossible. If Cruz limits Trump to only like 40 delegates in Indiana, the second is possible but not necessarily going to happen.
I'll give you a hint PA has 54 unbound delegates and Trump thinks 30ish of them are "his people" This is not the case. All of those people in order to be able to be voted on as delegates had to submit their nomination papers to the PA secretary of state 2 years ago. Those are not Trump people.
>>72472048
The GOP isn't one person. Lots of high party members have different opinions and lots don't like Rato. There's no central committee with the power to give marching orders to the delegates.
>>72471766
I will write in Trump, burn my Rep registration and re register Independent. If the delegates, and not the voting public, are all that matter then I have no practical reason to belong to either party.
>>72471399
Nothing would be worse than Hillary. Nothing. Sanders would be better than her.
I'd be pretty torn if it somehow came to Sanders v. Cruz though. They're both equally shit in totally different ways.
>>72472473
>If Cruz wins Indiana both are virtually impossible
Keep dreaming, Rat:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/29/upshot/donald-trump-doesnt-need-indiana-anymore.html
>>72472644
>I will write in Trump, burn my Rep registration and re register Independent. If the delegates, and not the voting public, are all that matter then I have no practical reason to belong to either party.
I don't believe you.
>>72472556
It's not about backing Rato. It's about not letting Trump win. They are terrified of a Trump presidency and are hoping Clinton will be president.
>>72472473
>being retarded
>>72471781
Drumpfkkkins got tricked, they will vote for Cruz imagine that!
>>72472723
Too bad, halfwit. The Preacher doesn't stand a chance against Hellary. It's Trump alone.
Death to the Oligarchy.
>>72471195
>>72471231
Jesus, that is embarrassing.
>>72473052
I know right, that guy posting and responding to himself, totally oblivious of /pol/ having ID tags.
>>72471140
Why?
>>72472944
Hey look I don't buy the doom and gloom predictions made by people who say Trump has no chance against Hillary. I just think Ted Cruz has a better chance. And probably Kasich has the best chance. But Kasich isn't really conservative so we don't need him.
>>72473293
We don't need a conservative in the house, we need a Republican.
>>72470641
>GOP actually nominating Cruz
Wew lad. Notice the movement is called
>Never Trump
Not
>Cruz for president
Cruz is merely a tool, and they will discard him at the first opportunity. Hungry Kasich honestly has a better shot.
>>72471517
Neocons don't care. Those like Bill Kristol prefer Hellary anyway.
https://youtu.be/2CFT88cMlQo
Only religios zealots for Rato can't see it.
>>72469966
All recent polling shows Trump ahead, AND it's an open primary. Trump tends to over-performs in open primaries. He's going to win.
>>72473618
If that is your only criteria then you should support Kasich. He has the best shot.
Nah, I'll stick with someone who actually cares about limited government.
Cruz shills can quit dreaming, if their wet dream comes true and they somehow screwed over tens of millions on a rigged second ballot we are going to backstab that son of a bitch in the general
>>72473293
The media is holding back.
Against Hellary they will tear him to shreds.
And I can't stand the lying rat, no way
I'd vote for him.
I've been voting since '88, I know how the game is played.
>>72469966
INCREASINGLY.NERVOUS.MAN
>>72473826
>we are going to backstab that son of a bitch in the general
False. There will be three days of angry pepe images screeching reeeeee. Then the normal grieving process will proceed from there. By the time Cruz stomps Hillary in the first debate /pol/ will be firmly behind Captain Ted.
>>72470516
Not only that, it contradicts private polling from the same period.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-cruz-indiana-primary-polls-222287
I thought the Clout poll was the establishment push poll, because they wouldn't be stupid enough to publish a poll that directly contradicted every other poll. I thought wrong. They really are that stupid.
>>72473927
On the GOP side, Trump has been the best at handling the media. But Cruz, Rubio and Fiorina have also been really good as well. Cruz won't back down to the media like Romnney or McCain, or Dole. He is smart and tough.
>>72471133
Actually we would be. It'd be the greatest satisfaction to see Cruz getting destroyed in the general after strong-arming the voter base with help from the establishment.
>>72474030
Are you shitposting or really this deluded?
yeah you can ignore that poll. That paper is a joke and everyone here knows it.
>>72470120
Kill yourself
Vote third party
>57 delegates in indiana
>571 delegates left
>Trump only needs 241
Face rats, Trump will take it
>>72474092
When your backs against the wall and it's time to shill all pretenses of integrity go out the window.
>>72474030
>/pol/ will be firmly behind Captain Ted
In 2012, /pol wasn't even firmly behind Romney, who won mostly fairly, and even ended up with >50% of the popular vote. At least half of /pol/ voted third party, wrote in Ron Paul, or stayed at home.
Imagine Ted Cruz, who not only has been trying to blame Trump for riots and terrorist attacks, spreading half-truths, and stealing delegates, but who's only hope is an undemocratic process of putting only his followers up as delegates.
A few people will vote for him against Hillary, but he's burned all his bridges for me and many others.
>>72473293
As a complete outsider from another country there's no way I'd vote Cruz - even watching his town hall stuff he gives off a very creepy attitude, if you told me he was a cult leader I'd completely believe you.
He's done so much cringey shit on camera, all the star wars quotes, that stuff about wanting to be on the Simpsons etc. I now it's all PR stuff but he comes across as a complete weirdo desperately trying to be liked but failing miserably.
If I was a voter in the US with no knowledge of either Cruz or Clintons policies I'd vote Clinton. I can imagine a lot of people in the US who don't know much about politics would do the same.
Not to mention his whole evangelical stuff completely alienates a lot of people, I know Romney was pretty religious but he at least seemed like the kind of guy you could have a drink with and talk to.
Well I have been a Trump supporter ever since he announced he was running. I have stuck with him through thick and thin. But this outlier poll is the straw that broke the camel's back.
I'm now a Cruz Missile
You guys are cruzin' 4 a bruisin'
thx 4 helping me finally c the light Op
>>72472473
Go away Mark Levin
>I'll give you a hint PA has 54 unbound delegates and Trump thinks 30ish of them are "his people"
But you have "proof" they are for Cruz? Hint: you don't. In fact most of the delegates claimed they'd support whichever candidate won their county on the first ballot. So they either stick by their word seeing as Trump won every county or be exposed for Lyin' Ted-Heads
>>72474224
>smart...
>tough
Now I know you're shitposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jKvl-SQW4
>>72474582
Yea this is a good point too.
Cruz is the most unlikable candidate in decades. There's no way he sways anyone who isn't already in the tank for him. Everything about him is just off putting.
My mom pays very little attention to politics and her words on Cruz are.
>Every time I hear him talk I just want to slap him and tell him to go away.
>>72471195
>>72471231
first day on the job?
>>72471766
You know every single state, every single primary has been hyped up as the end all be all state, they even tried it with Iowa. Most people are sick and tired of this constant ball game and we need to start giving support and fundraising for the future nominee, who barring Communist political maneuvers, will be Trump.
>>72474030
Well I guess I can only speak for myself but I'm backstabbing that son of a bitch and as a Texan I wouldn't even support him to continue being senator
LOLOLOL here are the polling specifics:
>Sample size of only 400 registered Republicans
635,589 cast a ballot in the 2012 Primary, and this was AFTER Romney was declared the de facto nominee.
>75% were called on a landline, only 25% on mobile
And which demographic is still likely to own a landline? Exactly....
This "poll" is garbage.
>>72472473
They have either declared their support for him publicly, or said they will vote what their district voted. They aren't bullshiting when they say he has 30 unbound delegates from Pennsylvania.
>>72475785
>They have either declared their support for him publicly, or said they will vote what their district voted
Yes. but there is no legal requirement for them to vote for him. They are unbound. And if rule 16 of the convention is repealed they may not even be required to vote for anyone on the first ballot or any ballot. So maybe they won't vote for Cruz at first, but they just abstain, which is still a vote less for Trump who needs 1237 delegate votes to get the nomination.
And from now until July these delegates are going to be courted by the Cruz campaign itself, as well as other members of the GOP telling them that voting for Trump is bad because of x, y, z.
How do you think some of these delegates who have likely been involved in republican politics in PA for decades will react when their former senator Rick Santorum meets with them to try to persuade them that voting for Trump at the convention is bad for PA, bad for the GOP and bad for America?
>>72470976
These attacks are absolutely scathing. Like, holy shit, does Cruz cry himself to sleep knowing that everybody he knows hates his guts. I mean those attacks are so brutal that even people on 4chan could never attack someone so personally.
>>72470907
>Denying Trump would be the fastest way to give Hillary Clinton the presidency.
The GOP Republicans are part of the same establishment, doesn't matter to them if it's a D or an R.
>>72470120
The thing is that the GOP elites would prefer Hillary over Trump, Cruz or not. Cruz = they win, but Hillary = they win too.
>>72471195
>>72471231
Too obvious, $0.05 has been taken out of your account.
>>72470120
don't be a dumbfuck
I hope Cruz does it. He is the one who can beat Hillary and save America.
>>72470361
The fact that they strung it out over 2 weeks from even before the NY primary is a greater cause of suspicion for me.
Oh look it's another anti-Trump outlier "shock poll" a few days before a primary.
We've only seen that before every single primary date. Why do people keep falling for this trick?
>>72469966
I was aboard the Trump train, but after seeing the report of this poll without even looking into the methodology, I just can't do it anymore. I am now a Cruzlim.
As of right now Trump has around a 75% odd of winning Indiana and this is not even taking into the massive amounts of absentee ballots into consideration.
>>72477286
I will sacrifice a goat to my dark lord Cruzifer.
The Culling is coming.
>>72469966
>who has made disparaging remarks about certain women during his campaign
ONLY ROSIE ODONNELL
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>>72470120
kill yourself faggot
You know the GOP hates Cruz right? He's not a team player at all.
Fact: Kasich polls way better than Hillary in a general.
Give one reason they won't pick Kasich
>>72477357
Trump will win Indiana. Is it going to be a blow out? Probably not, but he will win Indiana by a solid 5pt margin.
>>72477470
The time is ripe for the priesthood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3t7Hcvqzsc
>>72477644
Rule 40b requires that in order to be eligible to be nominated to be a presidential candidate a person must have won the majority of delegates from at least 8 states or territories.
Rule 40b can be changed by the convention rules committee which is comprised of a man and woman delegate from each of the 56 states and territories chosen by that state or territory's delegates. The majority of the states and territories delegates will be comprised of a majority of delegates that are loyal to Trump or Cruz.
Essentially Trump and Cruz will get to decide whether rule 40b stays in effect. I am confident Cruz can communicate his desires to his delegates, and am more confident that Trump can now as well due to his hire of Rick Wiley.
Why would you trust that poll? not reputable at all.. and i really doubt snot cruz has it, he should fuck off.
>>72477357
This. All the media outlets are dismissing this too.
Started 04/13, completely contradicts every other public poll of Indiana released in April and, come on, if Cruz does win, it's not going to be by any fucking sixteen points.
This pollster's going to look like an ass in a few days.
