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Why has Celtic nationalism failed ?
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Taig here. I don't understand why all the movements for liberation of the celtic nations have just evolved into Marxist, SJW type bullshit. Sinn Fein, SNP, and Plaid cymru are the most notorious. I may as well just vote for either a far left or green party at least they are honest.
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No longer 50 BC
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Because the class struggle of the Indigenous Celtic people has been comodified by the capitalist British system.

The solution to this isn't BNP tier malarky, it's even more leftism. Vote Workers Party.
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>>72422132
>Isle of man
<think they're a real country
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>>72422132

The problem wasn't Celtic nationalism, it was Celtic traitors. Although I'm surprised you don't see though the BS. Sinn Fein don't believe in any of it. But they know the political establishment is out to get them. So they just spout out some libtard nonsense so anytime someone speaks out against them they can just say "Hay why are you hating on a progressive government". You'll see a very different sinn fein if they ever get in.
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>welshman here
Most welsh aren't multiculti progressive cucks. They did, however, get extremely butthurt about Thatcher and turn their support to trade unionists and by proxy socialists. No party that calls itself conservative will make progress here just because there's so much bad blood there.

However since all the economic left parties have steadily become more and more socially leftist parties, they've retained that vote share and managed to get elected on a platform of ridiculous progressive policies because of it.

Since it worked so well for Labour, Plaid copied the model - especially from the early 90s and onwards - and gained a lot of popularity with metropolitan leftist voters as well as their traditional voterbase of welsh speakers in ceredigion and north wales.

Therefore we have a massive majority of leftist, progressive faggots in the welsh assembly and an overwhelmingly Labour representation in Westminster.

Despite popular belief 'we' are an intensely xenophobic people and fucking hate pakis, which may be why UKIP are looking to poach a fairly high vote share on May 5th.

Also we're hugely dependent on English taxpayers and don't hate the English quite as much as Scots do which is why the independence movement is such a laughing stock
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>>72422616
Really, how so?
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>>72422132
Because "liberation movements" and "popular revolutions" are only successful when Anglos finance them.
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>>72422132
Because any right-minded person realises remaining part of the UK (or in Britanny's situation, France) is the logical choice.

>>72422616
Irish and Celtic nationalism/republicanism has always been inherently Leftist.

>>72422487
>>>lefty/pol/
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>>72422691

Which part, Celtic traitors or Sinn Fein?
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>>72422825
Sinn Fein.
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>>72422616
To an extent you are right. However I think you are just refering to the older people in the party. Most of the younger members especially at QUB are literally just marxists and feminists. For example they wear hammer and sickles on their clothing
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>>72422921
The older members are left wing as fuck in my experience as well. If not as worried about gay rights, abortion and so forth.

I don't think enough people realize that Sinn Fein makes Labour look like far-far right radicals.
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>>72422132
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in Wales it is just a reaction against England which is richer and more conservative leaning
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>>72422814

From the horses mouth himself. I do believe that he will have leftism in a nationalist sense such as free healthcare and JSA but no doubt they will be exclusively for the Irish people only.
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>>72423287
Better drawn version
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> Be Celtic
> Talk about day about amazing Celtic culture
> In English
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>>72423376
Fucking embarrassing. Not as embarrassing as having to post under the British flag though.

>>72423425
>Be Celtic
>Cry about "muh english oppression" all day like an African
>In English
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>>72423376
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>>72423376
>>72423673
Why pick on Wales?
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>>72423425
You saying you'll understand it when we speak gaelic then you wise ass. Gave it a good shot though, you did.
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>>72423714
Because Wales has no culture.
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>>72423714
This. Dunno what they've done to piss off both sides. I'll always consider Wales better than Scotland and Ireland.
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>>72423782

They're the only celtcucks with surviving culture.
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Irish republicans counter-protest PEGIDA march/rally in Dublin.
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>>72423865
There is literally nothing wrong with gayness.
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>>72423772
Thanks yoda
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>>72422132
Plaid are moving to the right rapidly. Everyone here is starting to get fed the fuck up. We're an extremely white country and people want it to stay that way.

t. Sheepshagger
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"tiofaith ar la!"
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There aren't even any dragons in Wales
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>>72423960
Well, I can understand why you would say that with women like this.
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>>72422487
Rotherham
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>>72422921

ok, that's a pretty fair conclusion to come to. You're right to separate the two, the generation gap in the sinn fein party is pretty massive. But how many of the younger generation in the party actually hold a position of influence in N/Irish politics. Even if many of the younger leftists wanted it, they wouldn't necessarily be granted it.

>>72422882

Sinn Fein have a vested interest in behaving as nationalists. They will gladly implement leftist ideals for the Irish people but as nationalists it would take a form of exclusiveness. Which DESU is the only form of leftism that actually has a chance of working.

They do however have to play political chess until then. They can't vary well come out in public and say "Free health care... but only for native Irish people". They would get crucified, so for now they just omit the last part and will likely append it later when it's time.
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>>72423885
Scottish culture
>Buckfast
>Rab Burns
>Cocteau Twins

Irish culture
>The IRA
>James Joyce
>Seamus Heaney

Welsh culture
>?
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>>72423782
I'm Welsh born and raised and you are seriously wrong about that. I'd say in-fact that people like you saying that are the reason Welsh nationalism is starting to die out, luckily the flag is flown here a lot and and people are proud of Wales. The eisteddfod is as popular as ever and we actually celebrate our national saint day, unlike England which is truly unfortunate. Wales is a beautiful place, with a strong and long lasting culture, it's >95% white, we feel okay being nationalistic and we have less than 3.5million people and only 6 cities in the entire country (most of which are tiny) so our likelihood of housing 'refugees' is low.
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>>72424010
meet some of our women
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>>72424153
rugby, dylan thomas and anthony hopkins lad
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>>72424177
>pic related

>>72424153
>Rugby
>Eisteddfod
>Sheepshagging
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>>72424066

I need to reply to my own post here, I did not type desu, wtf is this shit. who the fuck changed my post >:(
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>>72424066
I don't buy that tbqh.

Nationalism in Ireland is inherently leftists are different to the imperialist nationalism of other western European countries. It's much more akin to third world national liberation in that respect.

I have no doubt there are some Blueshirts running around Sinn Fein incognito, but I don't imagine it's ever going to be the party line.
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>>72424153

At least they still use their own language
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>>72424153
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>>72422132
They realise how superior Anglos are.
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>>72424374
So does Albania. Doesn't mean anything happens there.
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>>72424066
Seriously the generation gap is literally huge. The only way I can describe it is
>SJW taig goes to university
>Sees blacks use skin color as weapon in American politics
>Sees faggots do the same
>How can I do this
>Joins cuck fein
>Muh reperations
Seriously just look up what the university students are like. In fact most of them say they are socialist not nationalist its just parroting other SJW movements
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>>72424516
countries where nothing happen are safer and comfier
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>>72424617
Doesn't get much safer than Albania tbqh, you've got me there.
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As an Irish northern nationalist i have to agree with the guy talking about the generation gap. I think its mostly due to the north being such a backwater, the socalist republicans literally act as if its 1916 when it seemed like socalism might be the cool new thing. They just ignore the last 90 years of history and this has made them very vulnerable to globalist SJWisms. For example, being stuck in the old "brothers of the revolution" mindset with support for palestine, has switched to a more general pro-muslim/antiwest among some of the more extreme types.

I'd say the Queens side of it is the same as any other western uni, hopefully Trumps election and the coming realignment on the continent occur before they can do too much damage.

It has actually made me appreciate loyalists/unionists alot more desu, hopefully we don't have too long to wait before the correction.
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>>72425449
Socialism is the cool new thing, and Palestine are our brothers in the revolution.

If you are not anti-west you are west-Brit.
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>>72422921
Just look at those fucking idiots. We're a nation of 4 million who can't even feed ourselves never mind sandniggers.
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>>72424169
>celebrate our national saint day, unlike England which is truly unfortunate
thats because you guys all get a holiday for it we dont
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>>72427125
Why did you only grow potatoes?
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>>72428981
Yeah, if they made it a holiday people wouldn't be ashamed of St George, a true legend.
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>>72429011
Because the Brits took all our land, so the only way you can grow enough to feed a family is with spuds.
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>>72424169
Who else /readthisinawelshaccent/
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>>72422616
I don't think anyone falls for the "Sinn Fein are just pretending hehe" shit to be honest, just seems like typical damage control from a republican who's jealous that the unionists are the conservative ones
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>>72429218
lol
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>>72422132
Why isn't Galicia ever included? Is because the language?
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>>72427125
This. The banks are still taking people houses, there are people homeless right now and yet, these cunting liberal lefties want to bring in arab and africans, house them and give them all the comforts the aforementioned homeless don't have/
It's the same with mass emigration of Irish to Australia while allowing 10000s of fucking Slavs in at the same time.

FUCK THIS ISLAND
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Fuck Provisional "Sinn Fein"!
Martin and Gerry are traitors.
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>>72430194

While I agree with everything you've said, the homeless problem which is really bad in Belfast (dunno how Dublin is) along with our youth emigrating gives us an easy way to expose the leftists.

Anytime the migrant invasion is brought up on talk radio there are massive phone ins from both nationalists/loyalist communities calling out whatever do-gooder faggot of the day is on, along with the normal cucked BBC presenters by bringing up the points you mentioned.
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