as of subject: are chemtrails redpill or retarded faggots material?
pic somehow related
Extreme tinfoil bullshit
>>72331230
Chemtrails you say?
>>72331267
This.
> what is a contrail?
the only chemicals in these fuckers might be some vapor gas
tinfoils make my skin crawl
>>72331267
don't you think it might be possible there is a geoengeneering undergoing?
I mean, not talking about poisoning people, just not letting people know that without artificial clouds bouncing sunlight earth would become unabitable
>>72331501
but I do actually noticed that some contrails last long and have curious behaviours
>>72331230
Chemtrails are excellent litmus test to filter out insane people.
The delivery mechanism is fundamentally shit even if someone wanted to contaminate the whole planet with x for whatever reason and that's where it all ends.
>>72331701
>even if someone wanted to contaminate the whole planet with x for whatever reason and that's where it all ends
I would be more prone to believe they are just blocking sun in order for earth not to become a desert rather than contaminate people...
I mean, I don't think they would ever admit "yeah folks, you know, without blocking some sun we would all be dead by 2050"...you know?
>>72331701
>filter out insane people.
p.s. totally agree with this
>>72331688
dude they don't go away within 20 seconds
they're clouds, there's no rule book on what clouds are supposed to behave like unless you know actual ayy lmaos start coming out of them that would be bretty strange
>>72331949
>dude they don't go away within 20 seconds
when I was little in the 90's they lasted 30sec/1 minute, now tens, half hour, you know?
didn't you noticed they changed since you were little gud boi?
>>72331230
cloud seeding. they are aerosols used to make it rain. I know because i am part of it.
>>7233168
>but I do actually noticed that some contrails last long and have curious behaviours
That's because the temperature in the upper atmosphere fluctuates from area to area. Sometimes you may see contrails last for a long time and watch them dissipate slowly.. other times you might get no contrails at all.
Also depends on the altitude the aircraft is flying at.
>>72332121
>http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/sky-criminals/
Airplane exhaust is not supposed to linger, that not how the plane is supposed to work.
There are many accounts of trails making people physically ill. I noticed, in southern Indiana that when the trails are being spread over the town I live in, there is always a warm spell and strong winds and storms. I can't testify that the chemtraiks are used to physically harm people, (though I don't doubt it) they are certainly used to alter weather, perhaps even create the façade of climate change.
>>72331230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8
>>72331230
Very tinfoil.
>>72332194
not a criminal. You voted for it in Italy. Berlusconi signed the law for artificial rain in italy. In Italy it is by LAW, by italian LAW, no secret conspiracy.
>>72331230
tinfoil
Isn't there a way to test what kinds of molecules are in the air? And in what amounts? Wouldn't we have noticed if the amount of a certain chemical in the air has increased?
![alex_jones_radio_host_a_l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oG5G4Pb.jpg "alex_jones_radio_host_a_l[1].jpg")
I really want to take this guy seriously but holy shit every time he starts talking about chem trails and his male vitality supplements I just can't really respect his opinions that much.
>>72332397
And also why the fuck would anyone want to put toxic chemicals in the air? We all breathe the same air, you know.
>>72332397
just look up man... haha its so funny, you have here a person that WORKS for them, and you dont ask questions? Aerosols are a way to fight global warming and drought. thats it. chemicals? yes, plenty of aluminum or barium. fields can resist 100 years of spraying before plants stop growing. we need a better solution by then
>>72332543
geo engineering, we do it because you wont stop polluting so the only solution is to shield from the sun and have more rain
>>72332190
then why do they pull shit like pic related?
>>72332628
>geo engineering, we do it because you wont stop polluting so the only solution is to shield from the sun and have more rain
>>72332317
This is just jawdropping, how can she be so stupid?
>>72332350
>Berlusconi signed the law for artificial rain in italy. In Italy it is by LAW, by italian LAW, no secret conspiracy.
sauce
>>72331230
It's retarded faggot material. This blog debunks it pretty much well, it's even in italian
Fuck, this system thinks my post is spam so I had to place the link in my name
>>72332794
Fuck, the system thinks my post is spam
>>72331230
Just look at how quickly and vehemently people will shill against chemtrail theories on /pol/.
Cloud seeding is an established science, it's perfectly plausible, and the differences between chem and contrails is distinguishable. But these retards will post constantly about how you're so dumb, they're so smart, and yet no one will bother to explain or acknowledge the phenomena using their supposed knowledge on the matter.
Frankly there's something up with the exhaust from certain aircraft that causes this supposed condensed water vapor to expand and create large cloud banks. This is easy enough to acknowledge, but instead this thread will be removed by the mods soon to make room for off-topic threads about cucks or some shit.
>>72332668
because italians are tinfoils. I am here telling you the truth, yet you won't listen. Politicians keep it "secret" just to feel the rush of knowing a "secret", i think. But the truth is that YOU voted for a LAW and berlusconi signed it. Aerosols are legal in italy.
>>72332794
>>72332742
>>72332628
Why are Italians so tinfoil about chemtrails? I've met a few Italians in real life and they all had opinions about them.
>>72332522
>chem trails and his male vitality supplements
wut? he believe they are used to make people faggots?
YOU DON'T MISS THE SUN
DELETE THIS THREAD
>>72332794
>>72332837
>>72332807
Here's the link, pic related
>>72331230
Chemtrails are sprayed into the sky to assist with wireless technologies as satellites are not real. Try to find one single picture of a real satellite, they don't exist.
>>72331949
Cloud types and formations are actually very well documented.
>>72332190
How do any of those factors turn a thin trail of condensation into a massive cloud bank? Why is this a relatively new behavior?
>>72332856
>this supposed condensed water vapor to expand and create large cloud banks
this
this I noticed
>>72332668
How dumb can you be
they took the fence with the kids on it and pasted it on another background. You can even see that the background isn't the same.
>>72332880
We got a guy called Rosario Marcianò, who is a r9k tier wizard faggot who still lives with his mom and made a documentary about them to get some money, selling a shit tier electronic tool supposed to "depurate air" from them
he's pretty famous in the hoax underworld, along with another guy called Massimo Mazzucco
>>72332880
they are not chemtrails, they are aerosols for geo engineering. do you deny geo engineering exists? you know, i work for them...
>>72332742
give me 2 minutes, i am not a lawyer, so i need to browse a little
>>72331701
>>72332326
oy vey shut it down
>>72332891
>kek (top)
>hail
>be out in winter
>breathe
>white vapor comes out because the air outside is cooler
>be out in skies
>air is cooler up
???????
HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS FUCKING RETARDED?
>>72333118
delete this
>>72333118
When you breathe out on a cold day, does the cloud from your breath continually expand until it becomes a massive cloud bank?
>>72333043
read my post, don't get shilled
there are some true conspiracy (shills, cia actions, nsa monitoring us, fucking kikes) and chemtrails is not part of them >>72332947
>>72333077
Aerosols aren't chemicals?
Please enlighten me. I see a few of them on my country, too.
>>72332668
>hey let's make a movie
>do you want a perfectly clear blue sky or a sky with a line in it?
that's not proof of anything
>>72333006
>as satellites are not real. Try to find one single picture of a real satellite, they don't exist.
ok, the only thing I want to say about this argument, is that as predicted by every wig history, they pretend "we been to space" but actually unless one take the moon landings for real, we have never left earth atmosphere and even iSS is just 12km above earth if I don't go wrong.
So, I think it's actually possibile to send satellites around earth, but I am very skeptic whenever they speak bout "muh space voyage" etc.
Moreover, what would be the point by you to make people believe satellites are real if they aren't? got any sauce?
If sexts, chemtrail are real.
>>72331230
Redpilled
The government and thousands of people are purposefully creating those trails made of dihydrogen monoxide
>>72333173
>sea level is the same as a low-pressure environment
>>72333173
>Does a plane jet engine exhaust as much air as a person that's breathing normally?
DOUBLE FUCKING RETARDED
>>72332742
article 2, paragraph 2
now i will link you more
ICE CRYSTALS, SILLY GOY.
>>72333210
Go ahead and use your vast knowledge to tell us how it happens, then.
We all know that contrials can remain for several minutes if the air current is still. Now tell us the natural processes involved in them becoming immense cloud banks.
>>72333400
oops
http://www.isprambiente.gov.it/files/acqua/legge36-94.pdf
>>72333173
>No, anzi, è logico proprio l'opposto: nessun aereo potrebbe contenere così tanto materiale, di qualsiasi tipo esso fosse, da poterlo spargere ininterrottamente per tratte così lunghe.
>Ciò che forma le scie di condensazione, cioè l'acqua, non è tutto contenuto nell'aereo. Il carburante, che già in un aereo commerciale pesa più del carico trasportabile, bruciando e combinandosi con l'ossigeno dell'aria, produce una quantità di vapore acqueo superiore al suo peso. I motori, aspirando aria già umida di suo, la arricchiscono in umidità con quest'acqua. Se le condizioni in quota sono quelle giuste, basta l'arricchimento in umidità dato dal motore per provocarne la successiva condensazione una volta espulsa.
>Il grosso dell'acqua presente nella scia viene appunto dall'atmosfera, cioè da fuori l'aereo, e quindi il contenuto totale di acqua di una scia di condensa corrisponde a molte volte il carico utile di qualsiasi aereo.
>>72331230
Chemtrails = smartdust
>>72333053
yeah but why putting a random contrail in it? what's the point? normlization of the phenomenon? why on earth would anyone go "guys, guys, pls stop, wtdf are you doing? how come there isn't a single contrail in this frame? who the fuck is the cuck who didn't put a contrail in it? put a contrail in it asap"
I mean, what's the point? why?
>>72333432
here is where i started my studies, after the aviation studies
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
>>72333368
It has nothing to do with initial volume. Explain how a thin contrail grows exponentially.
>>72333354
Why doesnt ever contrail become a massive could if it's the pressure? They dont, because it's not. Contrails left at the same elevation as chemtrails will dissipate
>>72333432
I'm pretty sure you are trolling right now, or you are some Marcianò shill
>>72333473
>>72333210
>>72332947
read the fucking link
you came here with questions, here's the answer
>>72332109
No they didnt.
T. Aerospace engineer father. Chemtrailfags delusion is just that. A delusion of people that make up and explanation for something they don't understand backed by paranoia.
>>72333497
Are you dumb?
Because it's part of the background image they used. There is no deeper meaning. The entire background is new.
You might aswell ask why there's more trees in it now. There weren't before. Why? What's the point of trees? PSYOPS
>>72333509
sorry i thought you was OP
>>72333302
>that's not proof of anything
I know but why on earth should they ever want to put a fucking contrail on it?
I really can't see any logical reason but for psyop and normalization
>>72333497
It's rarely random or a single one. It's usually a grid formation that expands until the sky is lightly overcast.
Personally I think it's more to trap solar radiation than to reflect it like others think. Can't tax carbon without a good crisis.
>>72331230
They're real. Referenced by name by official patents and bills.
>>72331599
That would be extremely inefficient considering how thin the trails are.
Just for example how much light is actually being blocked from hitting the ground in OP's pic?
NOTHING WRONG WITH GEOENGINEERING, GOY. WE ARE CLEANING UP THE MESS YOUR CARS HAVE CAUSED.
>>72333344
nice digits, now pls go back to p l e b i t
>>72331230
To think that planes can shoot out chemicals is obvious, its been done with crops for years.
To think that every trail that you see in the sky is a chemical is beyond retarded.
Same shit with flat earthers.
>>72333716
Yes. If I remember correctly, some document in your Congress actually referred to chemtrails as an 'exotic weapon'.
>>72331599
Then how do you explain the habitibility of earth before aircrafts had the ability to 'modify weather'?
In essence, how do you props humans lived before aircrafts?
>>72333319
as above so below. Modern nihilism and Godlessness only exists if the people truly believe our creation was an accident and we are floating on a ball through an infinite universe. It's all a lie, space as everyone supposedly knows it is not reachable. There is no sauce for you brother, but I give you the truth.
>>72333694
Read my fucking post >>72333590
>>72333590
>>72333590
>>72333590
>>72333590
Can't you see it? I'll click some more >>72333590
>>72333590
>>72333590
I'm starting to think you are fucking Rosario Marcianò or one of his shills
>>72333796
>That would be extremely inefficient considering how thin the trails are.
That's the thing. They dont stay thin. Contrail do, or they dissipate. Chemtrails will expand, likely because they contain hygroscopic particles.
>>72333716
Yes, cloud seeding technology is decades old. Good luck getting the shills to acknowledge that.
>>72333862
>To think that every trail that you see in the sky is a chemical is beyond retarded.
No one thinks this, it's a strawman argument.
>>72333890
This is the typical response you get in these threads. They call you stupid for asking questions then follow up with nonsense.
THE SKIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WHITE, DON'T BELIEVE THE PAINTINGS FOOLS.
>>72333617
>Because it's part of the background image they used. There is no deeper meaning. The entire background is new.
you are literally retarded as every swissman kike I've met in my life.
I work in the movie industries, and let me tell you that unless the director froced by the producer asked for it, noone would have never put that whitre thing there without permission.
no way it is "pure coincidence" you kike
>>72332522
This, chemtrails are cringe tier tinfoil.
>t.pilot
Our technology allows us to force our flying machines through the air at after and faster speeds, just look at this beautiful bitch.
The faster you go, the more violently lift occurs, creating condensation and increased vibrations, among other things.
>>72334119
It costs quite a bit of money to make an edit like that, yes.
>>72333710
>ersonally I think it's more to trap solar radiation than to reflect it like others think. Can't tax carbon without a good crisis.
nice pow
why is it that when you look at the sky some planes will leave a trail that lasts for hours and some trails disappear within seconds or minutes? there will be dozens of planes crossing every day but not all will leave these trails. Also, 20 years ago i never saw a trail last more than 15 min, now that is normal. i don't know what, but something has changed.
>>72333927
>>72333981
>>72334042
The chemtrail theories contains itself a lot of tinfoil bullcrap which often contradict their-selves. Often there's nothing to debunk, but people already debunked it all
read my post >>72332947
you can help with google translate
every single piece of chemtrail theory is already debunked
focus on real problems you retard
you are posting on a botnet site, ever heard of re fucking captcha?
>>72334144
Yes, we all know about contrails. This thread isnt about contrails, genius.
Nothing about the properties of condensed vapor, air currents and pressure explains the exponentially expanding nature of what people refer to as chemtrails.
Cloud seeding does, though. Hygroscopic particles do. This is technology that's older than you.
Aluminum helps with ionosphere reaction to "weather weaponry" and helps amplify signal of rfid chips. It keeps soil acidity high so that farmers must buy gmo crops. Damages lungs slowly for population control applications. Then theres the terreforming. Any or none of these could be true anyone have other theories they've heard?
>>72334207
>>72334119
OP CONFIRMED FOR CHEMTRAIL SHILL SAGE EVERYTHING >>72333920
>>72333920
>>72333920
>>72333920
>>72333920
>>72334320
If you cant make the arguments, then you have no arguments. I'm not combing through your blog with google translate.
>>72333590
this is exactly why italian politicians dont tell you the truth, because you DONT want the truth. I will link you where i started my studies, in case you missed it.
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
in UAE, where i stayed for 4 years, they announce that they will make it rain, 2 days before they do. Then on said date planes spray aerosols. the same aerosols i am now spraying in italy, and later it rains, oor at least the sun does not burn crops.
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
>>72333796
>how much light is actually being blocked from hitting the ground in OP's pic?
if they were to block ANY light we would be dead in a year. It's more like creting some sort of artificial radiation reflecting some of the most heating rays...dunno
>>72334042
I can't tell if you're trying to argue again't me, but I just asked a simple question, never did I call anyone stupid
>>72334144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XciXCRnqiPw
You can never shut them off!
>>72334335
Cloud seeding is totally different from chemtrails
don't act jew and read my fucking post
is stuff debunked literally from years
>>72333927
>Yes, cloud seeding technology is decades old. Good luck getting the shills to acknowledge that.
This. They used cloud-seeding technology in the Vietnam War, it was called 'Operation Popeye'.
If you deniers are brave enough, build some cloudbusters. Just don't let the angels keep you up at night.
>>72334427
No, you're being a retard. "hurr how did weather exist before people tried dicking with the weather".
You're like that idiot in another thread who insisted people who believe in chemtrails think that clouds arent naturally formed.
>>72334493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
>>72334421
>http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
cloud seeding is a known thing in north regions
nothing new or suspicious here
>>72334427
I gave you the answer
I'm not english native and meatball instruction is shit tier
but you can google translate this post >>72333473
don't be a retard
>>72333890
>Then how do you explain the habitibility of earth before aircrafts had the ability to 'modify weather'?
maybe we didn't shot half a thousand atomic bombs everywhere (atmosphere included)
maybe it's just a normal earth warnimg cycle but harsher than others.
I dunno, I am just saying that sometimes they act very weirdly given to what was I accostumed to when younger in the 90's
>>72334463
>Cloud seeding is totally different from chemtrails
No, cloud seeding is the method used to create chemtrails. You cannot have contrails turn into cloud banks without a some form of particulate present to attract water particles.
>>72334598
>Mario butthurt that chemtrail microchips fell in his pizza
Fuck off.
>>72331230
among the dumbest shit i ever heard.
The logistics alone... thousands of secret laboratories producing those chemicals, every aircraft producer in the world involved including everybody who works there, airport personnel as well... This shit would require tens of millions of people to keep their mouth shut.
If you are willing to believe in chemtrails you are probably schizophrenic or whatever else makes people this paranoid.
is this a fucking JOKE?
I WORK FOR "CHEMTRAILS" (aerosols) I GAVE YOU PROOF FROM UAE MINISTRY WHERE I STARTED MY STUDIES, AND YOU STILL DEBATE ABOUT IT?
CLASSIC.
RETARDS.
KEEP POLLUTING AND WE KEEP SPRAYING, ASSHOLES.
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
>>72334527
>claims I personally attacked someone
>goes on to personally attack me
Look, the italian said that the chem trails were used to modify weather and somehow increase the Earth's habitibility, but humans have thrived long before the use of such weather modification. So I pose a simple question, which is why would we need to modify weather to increase habitibility when humans have been on earth for millions of years without needing such modification?
>>72334623
except you can
>>72333473
translate it is a well known thing
come on, deny this
do more: create a reasonable and undebunkable scientific argument explaing
a) what chemtrails are
b) what is their specific scope
c) who created them
d) deny scientific arguments against them
>>72334772
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
now kill yourself, please.
>>72334772
>Implying NASA can't run programs under the public's radar.
Ok, Ahmed, if you say so.
>>72334307
>why is it that when you look at the sky some planes will leave a trail that lasts for hours and some trails disappear within seconds or minutes
this
leaf post good post
>>72334767
>>72333053
Because the ad is supposed to be the kids from a movie about trains set in 1905 displaced into an advert for modern railways. It's just a visual cue to say "this is now". There weren't any aeroplanes at the time the film is set.
Moron.
>>72334910
Hai rotto i coglioni, sei sicuramente uno shill di Marcianò e Mazzucco
le tue teorie del cazzo sono state debunkate da un pezzo, levati da pol porco dio
è grazie a gente come te che non si può red pillare nessuno
>>72333902
This is such stupid flat earth bullshit.
Like that's the reason there's a global conspiracy to keep the truth of a flat earth from the masses. That's the reason ? Because the heavens are supposed to be above the sky? Because we have to be the center of the Universe to be God's creation?
Muthafucka my God created the ENTIRE Universe. The heavens are beyond this. He created the Universe and wants us to explore it but it wasn't necessarily made just for us. I suppose this is the thought that scares you the most..
Fuck you. This is just yet another way for religion to fight science and ultimately hinder our progress.
>>72334810
in fact i actually wish that aerosols actually kill you, you are tooooo retarded to stay on this planet. Its because of assholes like you that the planet is now fucked. You want to continue polluting so you believe what you want to believe. science means nothing to you guys does it? Aerosols are science, pollution and climate is science. get it?
>>72334983
Was for
>>72333497
>>72334421
there's a difference between seeding to make it rain or creating an artificial grid of clouds to somehow either preserve or fuck earth environment, I don't see why you continue to talk bout cloud seeding as it was related...when they do seed, does it look like they are leaving chemtrails behind?
have you ever spoke with your collegues about chemtrails tinfoils? what's your opinion?
You guys are all idiots if you think no one ever has thought "gee I wish I could make it rain more"
There are dozens of patents for a process of "seeding" the rain.
Some devices are ment to attatch to planes and sprinkle particles of various compositions that, as they fall will collect water vapor.
Find the blue prints then call me crazy
>>72335048
dai basta, non ci sei riuscito. piantala.
>>72335070
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
kill yourself
>>72334772
Most commercial aircraft arent involved. The belief in chemtrails doesnt negate the presence of contrails.
Also, the involved chemicals and particles being included into a fuel mix and exhausted via the normal way with no modifications is a possibility.
>>72334823
I never claimed anything other than what's obvious: you're being silly. Weather modification has more purpose than making the planet more inhabitable. Only he argued that purpose, and you presented nonsense in return.
>>72334827
I translated it, it says nothing about how a thin trail of vapor can turn into a large cloud bank.
It repeats the tired argument that contrails exist, therefor chemtrails cannot.
It claims the process is untenable, but it doesnt account for advances in a technology that's decades old.
>>72334335
>fuselage skin reaches temps of 127C
>turbofan exhaust reaches 300C
Huu huu its da chemicals guise, that's why I is walmart and can't get mo skettys
>NEW EVIL BLACK CHEMTRAILS SPOTTED, THEY ARENT EVEN HIDING IT!!!
>>72335168
What the fuck do you think it looks like when you spread micron sized particles out of the back of a plane aka seeding
>>72335203
>>72335203
Non sono io lo shill qua
state portando stronzate ammucchiate e combinate senza capo ne coda, come una specie di idra dell'essere finocchi nella speranza che qualcuno creda alle vostre cazzate
e tutto ciò che riuscite a portare sono strawman, accuse di essere Rosenberg e articoli sul cloud seeding
create problemi, perché ogni volta che si parla di cospirazioni la gente mi associa a gente come voi
grillini di merda vaffanculo
This thread needs a fucking /thread, so I'm going to try.
It's pretty fucking simple. I'm just going to leave two things. First, the most fundamentally basic chemical equation. Jet fuel is pretty much kerosene, so I leave you:
2 C12H26 + 37 O2 --> 12 CO2 + 13 H2O.
More than 50% of what is expelled is water vapor. Now read up on condensation. It has all to do with pressure, temperature, and humidity.
Also, how Chemtrails are logistically impossible:
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/a_million_poisoning_planes
>>72335308
It explains how it is possible that the contrail became a large cloud
it depends from atmospheric condition
explains even why there's a difference between you exhaling air here and contrails became clouds
not all contrails become clouds
>>72335234
Whatthefuck?
Cloud seeding isn't anything new or relevant to my post.
I think you're lost
>>72334772
>thousands of secret laboratories producing those chemicals, every aircraft producer in the world involved including everybody who works there, airport personnel as well... This shit would require tens of millions of people to keep their mouth shut.
what about if it was just some additive in the fuel or some kind of "new" fuel plane have to use? your theory will be shit, isn't it?
>>72335371
Why cant you show some professionalism. Its your damn job....shame on you.
>>72335168
>there's a difference between seeding to make it rain or creating an artificial grid of clouds to somehow either preserve or fuck earth environment
At a point, but not in the basic principles of what makes it work. Both would use a hygroscpic particulate of sorts that attract water particles. There are several types of this material and like everything else on this planet, people have been researching it for years.
>>72335168
there are several formulas for aerosols, depending on conditions and purpose. Some aerosols just create a cloud shield to decrease the temperature. Italy would be 5 degrees warmer by now if we did not spray. You would have 25 degrees in march if we didnt cover everything in clouds. Notice it, when its sunny and there are no clouds, the temperature goes up like crazy.
We think that tinfoil people at least can look up and notice that the sky is not blue, and the sun is shielded. those who deny it are just idiots. we talk about them the way we talk about any other random idiot.
What we talk about the most though, is why? Why do we save crops and food? to feed the assholes that are killing the planet? If it were for me i would definitely spray poison around, but we actually spray a shield for you fuckers.
>>72335578
>>72335578
Marcianò esci
>>72335472
/thread
The Jews are out sprayin today, Sky is filled with those trails
>>72334823
>humans have been on earth for millions of years
>millions of years
>millions
do you want to rephrase that or you do really believe mankind was on earth when it was a giant lava ball?
>>72335595
Because idiots like you don't deserve it, it's sad but it's just a reality of the times. Your opinion is not valid just because you have it, you need evidence and you have literally 0.
Also if you haven't heard of me on the news, I am doing my job well ;)
>>72335397
articoli su cloud seeding? Questo è il ministero degli Emirati Arabi Uniti, dove ho studiato e lavorato
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
Il programma di aerosol è reale, sei scemo?
>>72335371
You have failed to counter my argument. Yes, contrails exist. How does that negate the existence of chemtrails? How does that explain what is supposedly water vapor displaying the properties of a vapor laden with hygroscopic particulate?
>>72335542
Nothing in what you posted explains that.
Explain how any contrails become massive clouds. Dropping words like "pressure" isnt an argument, explain how the forces produce the result. Explain how multiple contrails left at the same altitude (and pressure) behave differently in the same air currents.
>>72335801
Notice how this faggot never answered me
I'm totally sure he is a shill now, he's scared af
>>72335550
chemtrails are global scale cloud seeding and sun shielding. get it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8
The difference is obvious. I don't know why people are still trying to dispute this.
>>72334983
>It's just a visual cue to say "this is now".
so "now"="contrail"
slow clap
when turbine engines churn and heat up high pressure, high humidity pockets, they can inadvertently form long clouds in their wake.
Saying they're "seeding clouds" is like saying large boats are "seeding tsunamis" with their wake.
It's retarded.
>>72335308
I'm going to break my own rule here and call you fucking dense. My question was quite simple, but you managed to somehow butcher it in interpretation.
I never implied weather modification had no purpose and by calling my question nonsense just goes to show how fucking tinfoil ed you are. The burden of proof lies with you cucks and if something contradicts your beliefs all you do is insult and disregard.
>>72335801
Do You wanna rephrase that?
Or do you really think the Earth was a lava ball millions of years ago ?
>>72335472
And how does that water vapor turn into a massive cloud bank under it's own volition?
How does it attract other water particles without the presence of a particle that has such a characteristic?
>>72331230
Both and none.
No chem trail bullshit in regular jet fuel, but a country can purchase chem trail services in the form of jets with barium loaded jet fuel for weather control, usually during droughts.
The consequences are unknown though
>>72331599
I believe spreading aluminum flakes in thr upper atmosphere to combat global warming has been suggested or some shit but I haven't heard anything else on the matter.
>>72335173
Not a valid argument
>Find the blue prints then call me crazy
You find them and show me evidence then I agree or disagree I'm not looking for a possibly BS patent and wasting my time. You supposedly know about it so go find it
>>72335706
mamma quanto sei vuoto e ignorante... e poi chi cazzo è marcianò? Un tinfoil che non sa cosa sia la geoingegneria?
>>72336006
You basically said "how did we survive this long without weather modification"
It's pretty clear that weather modification at this point, done in secret, isnt about survival.
Go be stupid somewhere else.
>>72335965
Yeah but the guy I was replying to was talking about satellites being a conspiracy. And the only people to believe that are flat earthers. I wasn't talking about chem trails at all
>>72335974
http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
global scale geo engineering through aerosols. thats what it is
Why would the government be intentionally poisoning their revenue and labor source? I could definitely see some shady weather manipulation conspiracy (though unfounded) but not the deliberate killing off of people.
>>72335390
I don't fucking know.
maybe they just go very up and kind of let if go alltogheter or they leave long trails, i am actually curious, that's why I was asking
>>72336193
my bad, i must have read wrong post
>>72335801
It is a widely accepted scientific fact that humans diverged from chimps fucking millions of years ago you fuck
Life has been around for at least a billion years.
>>72336294
see this >>72336244
>>72331267
this, I was into conspiracy theories in 2008/2009 and when you reach the bottom of the rabbit hole, everything just falls apart, david icke is a conman and only writes that crap to sell books to gullible people who still buy them, my favourite theory is that about the english queen being a reptilian alien who eats babies at night in satanic rituals in graveyards, top fucking kek.
>>72336294
it is a global aerosol program to cool and water the earth
>>72336099
I dont think they use aluminum
>>72336004
You're ignoring the fact that after the perfectly natural contrail is formed, other suspicious things can happen. Like them growing like those toy alligators you put in a jar of water.
>>72336052
It's most likely a form of hygroscopic salt, yes.
>>72336031
Burning fuel literally creates H20.
>H20
>300C
>low pressure/high altitude
Hurr how do clowds even work?? Scary!
i dunno if they be sprayin some illuminati shit but I think they at least polluting the fuckin sky way way to fucking much
when was the last time you saw a sky with a vibrant deep blue hue?
theres no clouds out above me right now and the blue is a murky grey-ish hue
I haven't seen a real blue sky in probably 15 years
go back and look at your old photographs, you will see a different sky
>>72336294
Whether or not it's poisonous is unknown, and beside the point IMO.
>>72336398
Could have the opposite effect, trapping heat and lending credence to the argument that we need to tax carbon and make certain group unfathomably wealthy and powerful.
>>72335894
>http://www.ncms.ae/en/details.html?id=825&lid=575
>articoli sul cloud seeding?
fottiti shill
>>72335895
>Explain how any contrails become massive clouds
Literally what i posted
>Explain how multiple contrails left at the same altitude (and pressure) behave differently in the same air currents.
how do you know they are at the same altitude? that shit is debunked too
I can't post it because the system says it's spam and if I wrote it here it goes to 4000/2000 characters
first, how do you know those contrails and planes are at the same altitude?
second, even if they are at the same altitude with a lateral distance of a few metres, the contrails behave in a totally different way
the article is "Influence of propulsion efficiency on contrail formation", pubblicato in Aerospace science and technology (2000; 391).
alright guys, you had your chance to know the truth. I am out now, gotta go to a dinner.
>>72336490
Yes, I know what a contrail is. Now explain how that process keep going for hours afterward.
You are the worse type of shill.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT CONTRAILS ARE. THEIR EXISTENCE DOES NOT NEGATE THE THEORY. NEXT ARGUMENT.
This happened in Canada last year
>>72336490
Also humidity, check atmospheric conditions when contrails are present, higher humidity is a necessary condition. I live in Sacramento, and it's usually very dry here and we have severe clear blue skies almost every day, but when it does get humid, the contrails are there.
>>72336547
very true, there is a lot of research now on the local green house effect it creates. But that is long term issue. In the short term crops dont burn. that is the purpose. In the long term, people gotta stop polluting, or else we are doomed
>>72334772
not one cell phone video of the production, shipping, installing, or distributing of the MILLIONS of tons of chemicals that would be required to do this.
this would be the biggest story in the history of media and there isn't one whistleblower?
am I being trolled here? are people dumb enough to believe this? is it schizophrenia?
>>72336013
>Or do you really think the Earth was a lava ball millions of years ago
ok maybe not, but humankind definetely isn't "millions of years" old
>>72336129
marcianò è il maggior spreader della teoria della geoingegneria in italia, il suo sito si chiama tanker enemy, è un neet frocio che si arrichisce spammando bufale
poi vuoto ed ignorante fanno parte del manuale del flamer finocchio underage post-2010, TOP KEK va via
>>72336589
>how do you know they are at the same altitude? that shit is debunked too
It's easy when you live near an airport or under a heavy flight path. Altitudes in those areas are highly regulated.
>>72336542
INCORRECT GOY. WHITE SKY IS COMPLETELY NORMAL
>>72336707
>But that is long term issue
I'd say that we're in the long term already. How long has this been happening?
>>72336597
Ciao Rosario, chiudi bene le finestre mi raccomando, non si sa mai cadesse qualche nanomacchina degli illuminati nella minestra.
>>72336728
la teoria della geo ingegneria? hahahah ma tu sai che ci sono UNIVERSITÀ di geoingegneria in italia, e che i laureati entrano nel circuito dello spargimento degli aerosols a livello globale? ah no, sei un coglione, non puoi saperlo.
>>72336052
nice point.
but then why would they use it only for rain? they are a worldwide phenomenon, then it must means that there have been some huge fucking up with the earth ecosystem they are trying to fix without the public noticing....I don't know
>>72336542
see my post here >>72336700
You live somewhere humid, dont you?
>>72336542
this
the sky is white because we shield it from global warming
>>72336648
Nice evidence you got there. I am totally convinced by your logic and scientific reasoning. I sure wish you could link me to infowars.shill
>>72336719
How hard would it be to cover up the addition of a fuel additive? Most-likely added by someone who doesnt know what it is and doesnt ask questions about things that dont pertain to him? Fuel additives are very common, and one consisting of a hygroscopic material that wont combust and is expelled in the exhaust is plausible.
>>72336810
15 years in Italy, and more than 50 in USA
the long term is 100 years, that is when the aerosols will even KILL tha plants by soil saturation of metals
>>72336648
>Now explain how that process keep going for hours afterward.
Am I missing something or do clouds not stay on the sky for hours?
>>72336849
nano macchine? ma sei idiota? di cosa parli?
>>72336861
>hurr durr si fa il cloud seeding!
>significa che c'è un complotto per la rovina della terra! scie chimiche!
>guarda! Frocionstein mi minaccia via geo ingegneria!
TOP KEK M8
>>72335472
>http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/a_million_poisoning_planes
if you believe in any type of chemtrail conspiracy read this link and then kill yourself ASAP
>>72336377
if you strike reptilian you might not be that far from truth
>elm's guest house
>>72336936
Are you denying that certain "contrails" linger far beyond normal periods and tend to expand into massive clouds?
Been outside lately?
You're just upset that shouting CONTRAILS isnt an argument. Because that's all you have the ability to do.
>>72336052
YES THIS! FINALLY!
>hur is X redpill?!
>REDPILL ME ON THIS
>redpill
fuck the hell off with that stupid saying you retards.
>>72331267
No no no, see the elites are poisoning the air!
See, they breathe the- wait a tic....
>>72337126
We are denying that
and we already explained why contrails behave that way
You have to explain us specifically what I asked you before >>72334827
>>72337089
non è un complotto per la rovina della terra, ma sei così idiota? Ho scritto chiaramente che è per raffreddare il pianeta e le nazioni. Ma quanto sei idiota?
>>72337050
Contrails arent technically clouds. The lingering presence is only caused by still air, and typically wont last more than 30 minutes at most.
The forces used to create the contrail fled away from it at the back of the plane. Are you telling me that it's a naturally self-sustaining reaction?
>>72332668
The ENTIRE background has been changed you retarded nigger
>>72337126
Yes. Because it's dry as fuck here and the sky always looks like this. Literally just walked outside to take this
>>72337272
>cosa? si può modificare il comportamento delle nuvole e del clima? si fa da anni ed è pubblico e non c'è nessun complotto dietro?
>CAZZO POL DEVE SAPERLO
va via mr.Nò
>>72336862
yes, if we turn off cloud seeding in italy it turns to desert in 3 summers
>>72336689
nothing wrong with this goy.
perfectly totally absolutely normal plane vapour.
now please refrain from looking at the sky and keep on as usual
>>72337253
>and we already explained why contrails behave that way
No you didnt. Please link to it.
>inb4 you link to how contrails are created which in no way explain how some self-perpetuate.
This is like arguing with kikes.
>>72336979
it would be incredibly hard. not to mention that changing the ratio of chemicals in jet fuel would certainly be noticed by mechanics, pilots, engineers etc
if it was such a small amount of chemical that it wouldn't effect the fuel's performance it certainly wouldn't be enough to have any meaningful impact on the environment.
the amount of "spray" required to cover any significant area is mind-boggling
http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/a_million_poisoning_planes
Why do people even try to argue with idiots who believe this shit?
They take it on faith that chemtrails are real and look for anything that confirms their bias. Anything that contradicts the bias is part of the conspiracy.
I'm really tired of the meme that it's done to combat adverse climate change.
>>72337300
Your entire argument is based on contrails not being clouds. Explain how condensed frozen water vapor in the sky is not a cloud and then we'll talk.
>>72337410
I can't link, 4chan says it's spam
They self perpetuate due do specific and rare cases of the atmosphere, the one I told you b4
also you did not answer me
this chemtrail meme has been around since like 2007 or even longer
why the sudden spike of interest?
>>72337358
Where do you live? If it's dry there's less humidity for the hygroscopic particles to attract and therefore your area would naturally be a lesser target for such things.
even heavily clouded areas have clear days, anon. But have you really never observed a contrail turn into a cloudbank?
>>72336979
agree
>>72337074
ah ancora non sei arrivato alla fine della tana del coniglio da quanto vedo.. buon per te, buona cena.
>>72331267
Fpbp
>>72337546
remove the http and . to avoiding triggering the filter
example
www jewbook com
>>72337546
Go ahead and post the pertinent sections, translated, you lazy fuck.
Cant even post your own arguments.
>>72337358
C-chem trails only w-work where it's h-h-humid you dumb sheep
solar radiation management is real and has been going on for decades, most of the stuff about chemtrails is bunk
there are many proposed geoengineering plans that call for high altitude aerosol spraying of particles to reflect sunlight, which are essentially chemtrails, it will become public knowledge eventually, but they'll probably pretend they started now, and never admit they've been doing it for a while...
As for what they're putting up there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6r0GqbH9Os
you're welcome cunts
>>72331287
Fuck this nigger. I refuse to pay for shallow DLC just to make this 3DPD piece of shit to show up more easier.
>>72331230
I got to looking at this topic the other day, but as soon as I made a post, the thread went 404.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Clouds/
I've always assumed that contrails, or chemtrails were being done in a manner that would help keep the surface of the planet cooler, if only by a fraction of a degree. Turns out, according to what I was reading, actually make the surface temp raise.
>High, thin clouds primarily transmit incoming solar radiation; at the same time, they trap some of the outgoing infrared radiation emitted by the Earth and radiate it back downward, thereby warming the surface of the Earth.
>>72332238
It's not exhaust, m8. It's the result of excess vapor being released from jet engines because of the effects of increasing g the pressure on air within a jet engine.
>>72337643
Lel, I was being ironic and then I read >>72337555
Conspiratards literally jumping through hoops to validate their delusions
>>72337229
>poisoning the air!
not saying they are poisoning people.
maybe poisoning it's just a side effect for soild.
but to me it seems plausible they might want to try and fix some problem with earth climate without telling people...I dunno, but I don't think mocking and making fun to be the bases for a constructive discussion
>>72337647
>there are many proposed geoengineering plans that call for high altitude aerosol spraying of particles to reflect sunlight, which are essentially chemtrails, it will become public knowledge eventually, but they'll probably pretend they started now, and never admit they've been doing it for a while...
YEEEES! THIIIIS!!
>>72332317
Rainbows are a government conspiracy... Jesus I don't know whether to laugh my ass off or kill myself to escape the hell I've wandered into.
>>72337527
Not a cloud because natural weather conditions did not create them, and they do not persist.
One could argue that water vapor is water vapor, but one could also argue that all living life shares 99% of the same DNA and is therefor the same.
But go ahead and finish telling me how contrails become self-perpetuating and grow to immense sizes
>>72337639
I tried and I got past the character limit
>>72337338
see >>72334119 you negroid kike
>>72337647
>you're welcome cuts
Thank you for pinching out a hot loaf of horseshit for us.
>>72337555
AZ. Near sky harbor. No I have never seen them form clouds, only become wavy and dissipate into nothing.
I would post a pic of that too but this thread will be long gone.
>>72332668
1 background is different, possibly cgi or a different camera angle
2 the clothing the kids are wearing is period specific. Specifically a time before there were planes. Going for authenticity in a filmed medium isnt proof of conspiracy.
>>72337647
as i said, i work for them, in italy, but its sooooo hard to talk to the public. Just look here, i tried for 2 hours now, and NONE believes undenieable truth..... i linked them to italian laws that regulate it, i linked them to the research center where i studied, to the UAE ministry that openly talks about it.... but nothig. People are too dumb
>>72337770
Please tell me how humidity isnt a factor when we're discussing a material that attracts residual humidity in the air.
You people are getting more and more pathetic.
>>72331230
THE JEWISH REPTILIAN ALIENS MASQUERING AS HUMANS THAT RULE OVER US ARE SPREADING CHEMTRAILS IN THE SKY TO INFECT US WITH TOXINS TO MAKE US LESS RESISTANT WHEN THEY BRING US TO FEMA DEATH CAMPS WAKE UP SHEEPLE
WATCH ALEX JONES AND READ DAVID ICKE TO KNOW THE TRUTH
>>72337874
>one could argue that water vapor is water vapor, but let me tell you that's dumb because DNA and that is why planes can't make clouds, and btw clouds don't persist only stuff from planes exist
Holy shit nigger are you trolling me?
>>72337960
they added the trails, not remove them
>>72337647
That's what I've always assumed they were. But then what say you to this information?
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Clouds/
According to that, the only clouds that will reflect sunlight and cool the surface of the earth are low thick clouds. Anything else will result in an overall gain in surface temp.
>>72337974
è roba che si sapeva già ponzio
per questo ti prendevamo per il culo, perché ne parlavi come se ci fosse un complotto dietro
>>72332856
As usual the longer the post the crazier the poster
>>72337952
>No I have never seen them form clouds, only become wavy and dissipate into nothing.
Glad to hear you havent seen it.
Personally, I see it almost daily in central Florida.
I like how when dumbass conspiracies like this get debunked, everyone just finds a new reason why they think it's happening.
Chemtrails are particles used for mind control!
>Nope, just water vapor
They're used to make people sick to keep us inslaved by the health industry!
>Still just water vapor
Uhh... They're uh... to keep the sunlight out so we don't burn to death
>That's what the atmosphere is for
>>72338094
>and btw clouds don't persist only stuff from planes exist
Did I fucking say such a thing?
Natural clouds persist because the forces that created them persist. Normal contrail do not because what created them is traveling away very quickly. Understand? Do I need to dumb it down for you?
>>72338140
No... non c'è un complotto, hai letto la persona sbagliata. Io dico che tutto è chiaro e limpido, sono aerosols. L'unico equivoco è fatto dalla popolazione stessa, e i politici italiani ci sguazzano.
Un'altro problema è rivelare al pubblico quanto questa cosa sia estesa, da quanto va avanti, e cosa succede appena si spengono gli aerosols. quello è difficile
>>72332522
Alex Jones is the tinfoil god, don't question him.
>>72338146
As compared to you short, sweet shitposts?
>>72338180
Yeah and not to far from you is a major international airport, retard.
>>72337747
nasa pretend they put a fucking dune buggy on the moon and played golf on it yet they recorded "accidentelt" on the original tapes...
sorry if I don't trust their resources, but it would like believing usama bin ladin wasn't often a guest at the white house and his hideout in Pakistan wasn't agreed with muricans
>>72338362
Yes. Sanity is efficient.
>>72338180
Hmm... How humid is it there? It's almost like something is keeping the trails from dissipating ;)
>>72336689
this happens almost everyday in the summer in new england now
>>72338275
Are you telling me that you are incapable of understanding that even though the humidity is high, it doesn't mean that clouds will form, however humid conditions are still necessary for water vapor to condense. Just because clouds aren't forming doesn't mean that they wouldn't persist if they were there. If it's humid and a plane comes through and makes a cloud, it's STILL a fucking cloud whether or not nature happens to be forming any at that time. AND YES IF ITS HUMID YOU PROBABLY HAVE BOTH. Maybe these contrails turning into cloud banks you're witnessing is maybe just IT GETTING CLOUDY WHILE THERE HAPPEN TO BE CONTRAILS AROUND
>>72338238
>Chemtrails are particles used for mind control!
>>Nope, just water vapor
No one said that, just you arguing against nonexistent strawmen.
>They're used to make people sick to keep us inslaved by the health industry!
>>Still just water vapor
No one said that, either.
>Uhh... They're uh... to keep the sunlight out so we don't burn to death
People have said this because scientific research has been done in the area. And guess what? Our atmosphere is deteriorating, particularly the ozone.
Not to say any of that is the reason, for now let's just argue the very existence while not shilling like retards.
>>72338125
Or your info graphic like most infographics, is skewed to try to push a certain point of view as correct.
>>72338238
>I like how when dumbass conspiracies like this get debunked, everyone just finds a new reason why they think it's happening.
>Chemtrails are particles used for mind control!
>>Nope, just water vapor
>They're used to make people sick to keep us inslaved by the health industry!
>>Still just water vapor
>Uhh... They're uh... to keep the sunlight out so we don't burn to death
>>That's what the atmosphere is for
I'm convinced that these chemtrail retards aren't this stupid, they can't possibly be so stupid, they must be trolling.
Just like I'm convinced that BoB was trolling when he said the earth is flat... no one can be that fucking stupid, right?
