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So I'm doing a paper on the Reptilian Elite conspiracy theory where I have to examine flaws in its logic and try to convince the people that believe in it that they're wrong.

The problem I'm having is that after doing my research, I've found that this conspiracy is so fucking stupid that I don't even have a base to stand on to argue against it. It takes a fat shit over all rational logic. The only argument I can think of is that it's so ridiculous that it's clearly wrong.

Can any fellas who are good with argumentation help me deconstruct this theory? Or think of some fallacies that it's committing?

Here's the theory in a nutshell for the uninformed:
>basically giant lizardmen from space have been mind controlling the ruling class of people on Earth for centuries. Their only goal is to create discord and brainwash the human race through mass media, religion, and poisoning our water.
>The lizardmen engineered everything from WWII to 9/11 and use secret societies like the Illuminati to create some kind of NWO
>The creator says we can't see them because everything is really a hologram caused by vibrations and the lizardmen exist on a higher frequency than our brains can register.
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hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>72322776
hint: there is no evidence to support his batshit fucking crazy proposition.

.oh and... hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>72323219
But how would I convince someone who believes it otherwise?
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>>72323335
the burden of proof lies with he who claims something to be true.

>basically giant lizardmen from space have been mind controlling the ruling class of people on Earth for centuries
how does he know this?

>Their only goal is to create discord
how does he know this?

>poisoning our water.
where can we find and test some of this "poison water"?

>The lizardmen engineered everything from WWII to 9/11 a...
how does he know this?

>everything is really a hologram caused by vibrations..
what is the nature of these vibrations? how can they be meaured? (Note: there are some interesting theories about reality as we know it potentially being a hologram on the rim of a black hole.)
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>>72322776
>>72323335
just debunk the youtube videos on how lizard people's irises change live on TV.

>>>/x/
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The Lizardmen are humanity's eternal foe, and have existed for aeons. The Picts and Aryans (ape slave races) successfully overthrew them in Atlantis and they've bitterly hated the Germanics and Celts with special intensity for it ever since.

They're not aliens, they're the descendants of the dinosaurs and advanced chameleons who don human disguises.
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>>72322776
>deconstruct
No you can't, it literally mutates whenever someone does and reconstructs itself to survive next time, if you write a paper next time you hear it, it will have changed into something your original argument can't explain anymore.

Its a literature thingy, you are better of examining what all these stories have in common

>inb4 people take it seriously
Yes, thats the point
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>>72322776

Eh heh heh yesssssssszzzz..thisssss isss all a mere consssszpirazzy! hissssss..
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>>72323916
>basically giant lizardmen from space have been mind controlling the ruling class of people on Earth for centuries
>how does he know this?

This idea came about from the fact that royal lineage has been inbreeding since Babylonian civilisation (fact) and that's where the idea that an "elite bloodline" (reptilians) has been governing the underprivileged and consumer classes. Even if they're not literal lizards, the metaphysics of it still functions.

>Their only goal is to create discord
>how does he know this?

Not like we have George Soros funding bogus shit like BLM and FEMEN right? To anyone who gives credence to this trendy pop conspiracy shit, the ruling elite and "reptilians" are synonymous with each other. George Soros is a reptilian even if he's not a literal reptilian.

>poisoning our water.
>where can we find and test some of this "poison water"?

There actually is oestrogen and other shit in the water supply. Fact. Frogs are turning hermaphroditic because of all the chemicals added to it in the post-processing phase.
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>>72322776

First of all, we evolved from lizards and kept that smooth muscle movement ability from those times.

Then we evolved a mammalian exterior to the interior limbic system

Reptilian conspiracy was created to scare uneducated and religious people.
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>>72324872
>They're not aliens, they're the descendants of the dinosaurs and advanced chameleons who don human disguises.

That's a cool story idea.
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>>72322776

Fuck off to /x
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>>72325634

Isn't that basically the Silurians from Doctor Who?
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>>72322776
As a member of the scalie master race I see nothing wrong with deceiving the foolish mammals
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It's basically impossible to debunk rationally, because adherents of this belief make such ridiculous leaps of logic that they will claim that any contrary evidence you provide is part of the conspiracy, and thus invalid.

If the person you are debating with is absolutely unwilling to accept any other viewpoint as a matter of faith, you cannot ever win.

cf: religion.
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>>72322776
t. Yotlssykthys Goldslither
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The use our subconscious as a form of energy.
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>>72322776
>I don't even have a base to stand on to argue against it

So you can't actually challenge the idea, but are sure that it is wrong?

Come back when you have learned to reason and argue.
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David Icke KNOWS what's up. Reptilians have taken over and infiltrated every level of human society (including our governments) for many thousands of years. The reason they've gotten away with it for so long is that they can assume a human form. They don't come from another physical planet per se, but from another band of frequency that vibrates very closely to this one (which enables them to flit back and forth from their dimension to ours).
Credo Mutwa called this frequency band/dimension 'the heaven between heavens'.
Their 'food' is our fear, our hatred, our suffering, our anger and our despair.
Shifting into a human form and entering into our dimension takes a lot of energy for them, so they can't stay here for long unless they possess the body of a human who is in vibrational resonance with them.
These humans are of a hybrid nature, their DNA is different from ours in that it is compatible with the reptilians (which is what allows them to be possessed). These humans are your kings, your banking dynasties (like the Rothschilds, for example), your presidents, etc. They have certain traits in common, like a lack of empathy, an obsession with being in control, lack of imagination, etc.
Oh, and they love lolis and gold.
These reptiles are pedophiles.
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Actually they are demonic. The serpent in the garden, the beings with faces like vipers that Moses's father saw (Dead Sea scrolls), the various serpent beings of native North and South American tribes (that demanded human sacrifice) , etc.
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>>72326602

Reptilians have a galactic empire, which is the Milky Way galaxy. Star Wars was right, kind of. Reptilians are non-physical beings, they can't stay here for extended periods of time. Their world occupies the same space as ours, but operates in a different frequency range and lacks an energy source of its own, so they get the energy they need to power their world (and also to keep themselves alive, by the way) from our world. But because they are such low-vibrational creatures, they can only absorb low-vibrational energy (like fear and suffering). This is why they engineer war and poverty - so that they can maintain their food supply.
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>>72326602
Kinda what he said except the demon theory explains their inherent evil nature and extrademensional properties. And the "hybrids" are just like the nephalim of the Bible, men of renown, the result of fallen angel human breeding.
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The reality of the situation is far more bizarre, According to the Kabalah We live in a dimensional reality, one where different pockets of dimensions co-exist side by side with each other, sort of like an onion and its layers. The entities which live in these dimensions, what secret knowledge calls spirits, demons, angels, etc. are capable of influencing us and interacting with us in our dimension, provided they follow certain, inherent rules.

The game is deception, keep mankind from accepting God and Christ in any way, shape or form. So the answer is to dilute knowledge through mass deception through disinformation and controlling context. If given enough leeway and power, these entities can transform into whatever they wish, fish men, lizard men, etc, but they are not lizard men in actuality, merely taking the form of such to fool mankind into building a false narrative which separates man from God. It's easy to tell someone a lie and give them the wrong idea, even if the experience tells them otherwise, controlling the context of the experience controls the perspective, which in turn defines the person and their beliefs and thus by extension, mankind itself.

The serpent is considered to be symbolic of the gods, with the exception of the Abrahamic religions, which views the serpent as a group of fallen angels pretending to be gods. By understanding this fact, you know who is pretending to the lizard men and for what purpose.
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>>72322776
Take this angle.

Selfish behavior comes from a part of the brain that we have in common with more primitive creatures. Reptiles being a good example.

Our elites are entirely selfish and obsessed only with their own advancement. They lack all empathy and as such are like a totally different race to true humans who have empathy.

Its a metaphor for the human race being ruled by psychopaths.

The part about the brain thing is actual science. I cant remember the name of the part of the brain that rules selfish emotions and primitive drives but its not the same part of the brain that governs higher functions like empathy.
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The leader of the Illuminati is known as the "Pindar", or the Penis of the Dragon, and he's chosen from one of the 13 ruling elite families such as the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers.

The ruling elite are the Anunnaki, inbred families who have reptilian genes, or the R-Complex, from interbreeding with reptilians hundreds of years ago.

King Charlemagne, to whom many United States presidents can trace their lineage back to, carried the reptilian complex in his genes.

In every United States election, the candidate with the most reptilian genes has won.

There is a reptilian conspiracy. You just have to sift through a lot of the bullshit.
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>>72326691
Not this.

>>72326841
This.
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>>72326979

Yes, major world-leaders and banking dynasties are related to each other. Pic related (it's from a MAINSTREAM magazine, if I remember correctly).
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>>72322776
JUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zycSqINXe4
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>>72326979

The Annunaki are the same as the Nephilim, who were children of the Fallen Angels in Enoch, a text quoted by many in the Bible, including the Lord Jesus Christ. They've been done away with in the flood and now make up the demonic forces which plague our Earth, forever wandering knowing the pleasures of flesh once but now cannot indulge without the consent of man.
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reptilian proof here

watch it and try to debunk this without using google for as long as you can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFZX2qyp_d4
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>>72322776
Go search 4plebs for a thread about Paul Watson being Reptilian. We found evidence in several videos.

I showed them to a friend who researches that kind of stuff and he agreed
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Daily reminder that the ruling families are based in Europe, not America nor Israel. They are controlling America (and, indeed, the rest of the world) from Europe for its economic prosperity and military might via their secret society networks. These secret society networks hoard many things (like money - which they create anyway, natural resources such as gold and herbal medicines, and, most importantly of all, KNOWLEDGE). These secret societies hoard knowledge of TRUE history, TRUE mathematics, TRUE astronomy, TRUE health, TRUE physics, etc. and, most importantly of all, knowledge of the TRUE nature of 'reality' itself while teaching a false, incomplete and distorted version of those subjects to the general public, who usually unquestioningly accept all of it. They want people to point the finger of blame at America (and Israel, in the Muslim World), while not focusing on Europe in the belief that it is a faded superpower (which it is at the level of individual European countries, but that's not the point). The point is that these people are based in Europe (for historical reasons), but have set themselves up globally. They're found mainly in the City of London, Bavaria, Paris, Frankfurt, Rome and Geneva. The ruling families knew about the so-called 'New World' before individual European colonial empires even 'discovered' them, due to the ancient knowledge of geography hidden in their secret societies. The ruling families still control so-called 'former European colonies' via their secret society networks via the individual European countries that originally colonised those countries. (end of part 1)
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Serpent Seed Doctrine
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>>72327456

(start of part 2) There are secret societies controlling all of the major aspects of human civilisation, such as politics, the media (both mainstream AND alternative, yes, they have infiltrated the alternative media community too), international banking, corporations and entertainment. The secret societies have a FIERCELY compartmentalised, hierarchical structure and there is ultimately only ONE secret society that has ALL of the knowledge of the other secret societies, this secret society controls ALL of the other secret societies and thus, the whole world. (end)
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>>72327393
A large bug flew into his mouth which looks a bit like his tongue in the blurry footage and that is why he is complaining about why he hates the country.

Pretty obvious.
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The 'God' of the Abrahamic religions (i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is actually the Demiurge. Worshipping the Demiurge and praying to the Demiurge gives energy to the Demiurge. The Demiurge receives an energy bonanza from Muslims in particular, who pray to him five times a day. Energy flows where attention goes.

Human dynasties = Darth Vader

Archons = Emperor Palpatine

Demiurge = Dark Side of the Force
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>>72327683

God (the REAL God, not the Demiurge who is posing as 'God') created humans for the same reason that It created every other form of life - to experience Itself through those forms of life. God manifested this universe from Its consciousness, this universe is naught but God's dream. God is pure consciousness, hence everything in this universe (and in 'reality' in general) is consciousness. Everything is eternally alive and has an identity of its own, even so-called 'abstract' things like war and peace. When God manifested this universe, all that was not in harmony with the natural order of the universe assumed an identity that some people today call 'the Demiurge'. This identity is essentially a self-aware distortion. Although the Demiurge is conscious (like everyone else and everything else), it does NOT have a soul (actually, it IS NOT a soul, to be more accurate). This is why I like to call the Demiurge 'the Machine'. The Demiurge is cold, emotionless, sociopathic, relentless, exceedingly Machiavellian and PROFOUNDLY EVIL according to the conception of 'evil' that is accepted by the average person (although the Demiurge does not think of itself as being 'evil', because it considers itself to have transcended the duality of 'good' and 'evil'). The Demiurge has an important job, its job is to keep the machinery of the universe in perpetual motion. At some point in time, the Demiurge manifested a bad copy of the universe made of computer codes and now, due to the Demiurge's fuckery with our DNA, most people on this planet can only perceive the copy universe, not the more expansive original universe. Edgar Allen Poe was right when he said "All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream."

Original universe = Original illusion

Copy universe = Demiurge illusion

Most people on this planet are perceiving an illusory universe nested in an illusory universe. The universe that most people on this planet are perceiving is a fake!
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>>72322776
OP serious here look up the lacerta files. It's an interview with an apparent reptilian it could be very helpful for you since it's all transcribed and what not.
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you mouth breathing surface dwellers think you are the original sapient life? Many "keks", as you're current vernacular would deem
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>>72322776
>muh frequencies
this 1 always gets me kek
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>>72327734

Pierre Sabak is a man who has spent over a decade going through dictionaries, he's obsessed with words as well as their etymologies and derivatives. Pierre discovered that if we follow back the derivatives of the words in the languages we use now to their origins, then they tell a story of reptilian beings taking over the human species and also how they symbolised these reptilian beings not as they really are but instead as eagles, hawks, owls and angels. If you take the word 'angel' back to its origin in Sabak's research, you get a word meaning 'snake' or 'serpent'. And so we have the eagle on the coat of arms, flags and logos of so many countries. We also have the so-called 'owl god' Moloch, who is worshipped at Bohemian Grove. Read 'The Murder of Reality - Hidden Symbolism of the Dragon' by Pierre Sabak.
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>>72322776
why is American education a bad joke? If its not gender studies its this pseudo nonsense. Fuck you filling up this Uni as well we don't need more retards here.
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>>72322776

>I have to provide arguments to falsify a fiction with no basis in reality

That's not how it works, a hypothesis becomes a theory once you have at least a sliver of fact to base it on
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>>72322776
Hisssssssssssssss buy the filters hisssssssssssssss
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>>72325479
>evolved
yet there has never ever been a single fossil or proof of anything in transition forms. the fossil record shows everything fully formed from the beginning with no intermediaries, it shows a cataclysm that killed off everything then everything magically came back exactly how it was before
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>>72327782

The Demiurge made a 'video-game' (so to speak) when it (I say 'it' because it is a gender-free entity - it is simply a self-aware distortion) created what we think of as the universe. What we think of as the universe is NOT the original universe, it is a 'bad copy' of the original universe. It is a virtual reality universe. The Matrix movies were right all along, we live in the Matrix and the Demiurge is the Architect, while the Reptilians are the agents and the Archons are the Machines. Both the Demiurge and Ray Kurzweil want to computerise the entire universe. Start watching this video from 1:18:35 because that's when Ray Kurzweil starts saying something about computerising the entire universe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsg-__K_IAI
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Icke has CORRECTLY predicted MANY things. One recent example I'll give you is that David Icke's book 'The Biggest Secret', released in 1998, claimed that former UK Prime Minister Ted Heath sexually abused children. In August 2015, the London Police were investigating allegations of child sexual abuse by Ted Heath, yet unsurprisingly, nothing about David Icke's claim about Ted Heath in The Biggest Secret is mentioned in the mainstream media.

How can one man be so based?
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>>72322776
As stupid as the theory is, you're an idiot if you think their goal is just to create discord and brainwash. There's a further goal, I just don't know enough about the theory to know what it is.
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>>72322776
If they had the capability and technology to pull off such a ruse, why the fuck would they care about us?
This is like a human trying to mind control an ant in order to affect how the ant colony develops. It might be fun for 5 minutes but then you pour molten aluminum into their hole.
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>>72327866
Study some biology. You will like it. Life is wonderfully complicated and beautiful. If you are still not convinced afterwards I wont even mind.
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I would steer away from the more modern information and instead look into Zecharia Sitchin's material. Maybe some Icke too, he's really invested in the subject.
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>>72327871
You know you are in a new-age cult, don't you Australia?
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>>72328014

This. They're not creating discord and brainwashing people just for a laugh, there's something else going on here.
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>>72322776
>where I have to examine the flaws and convince people its fake
Sounds like something someone would say if they were being controlled by the reptilian elite....

Can't trick me, argonian!
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>>72327683

You are correct in some aspects, but ultimately this story goes back to the fall of the angels.

The Demiurge is actually Lucifer and his minions, who descended at the early morning of the world. They control our reality through 'deception' of knowledge and we are unable to see the truth of the manner, Lucifer is a cold, relentless, manipulative and evil being who wishes for mankind to burn in eternal fire alongside him when the day of judgment comes.

Lucifer and his cronies messed with mankind's DNA through interbreeding with the daughters of man to create half-angelic half-human hybrids who terrorized mankind, alongside other twisted experiments which such advanced and intelligent beings are capable of.

A lot of what you say isn't wrong, the improper context turns it into a different aspect of truth, when in reality it matches up very well to other sacred text and knowledge.
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>>72326617
>/9K/r
So close
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>>72322776

if you believe in evolution why cant reptilians be real?
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>>72327866

I completely agree with you. What the fossil record indicates to us is quite creepy.
Plants first appear in the fossil record about 450 million years ago. There is no indication of them having developed out of any earlier form. They simply appear. What's more, every major form of plant arrives together. This can only be explained in orthodox evolutionary terms if none of the millions of intermediate stages which led to this dramatic development ever fossilised. The chances against this are ASTRONOMICAL.
The first flowering plants also appear in the fossil record fully formed. Although we have an abundance of fossils of the earlier, non-flowering species, not a single one of these can be described as an intermediate form on the evolutionary path to flowers. At one point, there were no flowering plants. At another, flowering plants were all over the place.
You find exactly the same bizarre pattern in the animal kingdom.
The earliest fish with spines and brains appeared some 450 million years ago. In all the many curious lifeforms discovered in the sea, they had no apparent evolutionary ancestors. According to orthodox doctrine, the cartilaginous skeleton found in the certain fish - like the ray - gradually evolved into a bony skeleton. The fossil record shows cartilaginous fish appeared (without apparent ancestors) 75 million years AFTER bony fish.
Orthodox doctrine also insists fish with jaws gradually evolved from jawless varieties. The fossil record shows nothing of that sort. Fish with jaws suddenly appeared, with no discernible ancestry. Furthermore, these jawed fish somehow evolved into one jawless species - the lamprey - despite the fact that jawlessness is supposed to be a characteristic destined to be selected out of the life stream. (end of part 1)
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>>72328440

(start of part 2) Darwinian theory suggests that lung-fish, capable of breathing both on land and underwater, eventually evolved primitive legs out of their gills and crawled onto a beach to become the first amphibians. Amphibians certainly exist. What isn't known to currently exist is a single intermediate fossil tracing the famous lung-fish gills-to-legs evolutionary sequence. Some 320 million years ago, fossils of fully a dozen orders of amphibians began to be laid down. All had well-developed limbs, shoulders and pelvic girdles. None showed the slightest sign of having evolved from fish or even from anything else that evolved from fish.
Fish species themselves show no signs of evolution. The shark who terrifies swimmers today is the same beast he was 150 million years ago. Oysters and mussels have been around unchanged for even longer - they appeared in their present form and were arguably just as delicious 400 million years ago.
Mammals appeared suddenly as well. The orthodox theory suggests that they evolved from a single, tree-dwelling, shrew-like creature that expanded into the niche left when the dinosaurs perished. There was indeed such a creature, but the fossil record gives no indication whatsoever that it evolved into anything. Instead, 10 million years after the dinosaurs disappeared, a dozen or so separate and distinct mammalian species turn up without warning in the fossil record... in areas as distinct as South America, Africa and Asia. There are no intermediate fossils showing a connection between these mammals and the earlier shrew. There are no fossils showing any inter-species evolution either. Among the fossil mammals that appeared so abruptly at that time are lions, bats and bears that you would recognise IMMEDIATELY if you were chased by them today. What's going on here? (end)
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>>72327761
>doesn't know about string theory

What a pleb.
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Here is merely SOME evidence (though DEFINITELY not ALL of the evidence) suggesting not only a human presence on Earth BILLIONS of years ago, but also suggesting complex human civilisations on Earth BILLIONS of years ago:

* A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago
* A human footprint with accompanying paleoliths (stones deliberately chipped into a recognisable tool type), bone tools, hearths and shelters, discovered in France and dated 300,000 to 400,000 years
* Paleoliths in Spain, a partial human skeleton and paleoliths in France; two English skeletons, one with associated paleoliths, ALL at least 300,000 years old
* Skull fragments and paleoliths in Kenya and advanced paleoliths, of modern human manufacture, in the Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, dated between 400,000 and 700,000 years
* Neoliths (the most advanced stone tools and utensils) in China of a type that indicate full human capacity, dated to 600,000 years
* Hearths, charcoal, human femurs and broken animal bones, all denoting modern humanity, in Java, dated to 830,000 years
* An anatomically modern human skull discovered in Argentina and dated between 1 million and 1.5 million years years (eoliths -chipped pebbles, thought to be the earliest known tools- at Monte Hermoso, also in Argentina, are believed to be between 1 and 2.5 million years old).
* A human tooth from Java yielding a date between 1 and 1.9 million years years
* Incised bones, dated between 1.2 and 2.5 million years, have been found in Italy
* Discoveries of paleoliths, cut and charred bones at Xihoudu in China and eoliths from Diring Yurlakh in Siberia dated to 1.8 million years
* Eoliths in India, paleoliths in England, Belgium, Italy and Argentina, flint blades in Italy, hearths in Argentina, a carved shell, pierced teeth and even two human jaws all bearing a minimum date of 2 million years (end of part 1)
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>>72328636

(start of part 2) Curiously enough, several of the very earliest artifact discoveries display a truly extraordinary level of sophistication. In Idaho, for example, a 2-million-year-old clay figurine was unearthed in 1912. But even this discovery does not mark an outer limit. Bones, vertebrae and even complete skeletons have been found in Italy, Argentina and Kenya. Their minimum datings range from 3 million to 4 million years. A human skull, a partial human skeleton and a collection of neoliths discovered in California have been dated in excess of 5 million years. A human skeleton discovered at Midi in France, paleoliths found in Portugal, Burma and Argentina, a carved bone and flint flakes from Turkey all have a minimum age of 5 million years.
How far back can human history be pushed with discoveries like these? The answer seems to be a great deal further than orthodox science currently allows. As if the foregoing discoveries were not enough, we need to take account of:
* Paleoliths from France dated between 7 and 9 million years
* An eolith from India with a minimum dating of 9 million years
* Incised bones from France, Argentina and Kenya no less than 12 million years old
* More paleolith discoveries from France, dated at least 20 million years ago
* Neoliths from California in excess of 23 million years
* Three different kinds of paleoliths from Belgium with a minimum dating of 26 million years
* An anatomically modern human skeleton, neoliths and carved stones found at the Table Mountain, California and dated at least 33 million years ago
But even 33 million years is not the upper limit. A human skeleton found in Switzerland is estimated to be between 38 and 45 million years old. France has yielded up eoliths, paleoliths, cut wood and a chalk ball, the minimum ages of which range from 45 to 50 million years.
There's still more.
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>>72328659

(start of part 3) In 1960, H. L. Armstrong announced in Nature magazine the discovery of fossil human footprints near the Paluxy River, in Texas. Dinosaur footprints were found in the same strata. In 1983, the Moscow News reported the discovery of a fossilised human footprint next to the fossil footprint of a three-toed dinosaur in the Turkamen Republic. Dinosaurs have been extinct for approximately 65 million years.
In 1983, Professor W. G. Burroughs of Kentucky reported the discovery of three pairs of fossil tracks dated to 300 million years ago. They showed left and right footprints. Each print had five toes and a distinct arch. The toes were spread apart like those of a human used to walking barefoot. The foot curved back like a human foot to what appeared to be a human heel. There was a pair of prints in the series that showed a left and right foot. The distance between them is just what you'd expect in modern human footprints.
In December 1862, The Geologist carried news of a human skeleton found 27.5 m (90 ft) below the surface in a coal seam in Illinois. The seam was dated between 286 and 320 million years. It's true that a few eoliths, skull fragments and fossil footprints, however old, provide no real backing for the idea of advanced prehistoric human civilisations.
But some other discoveries do.
In 1968, an American fossil collector named William J. Meister found a fossilised human shoe print near Antelope Spring, Utah. There were trilobite fossils in the same stone, which means it was at least 245 million years old. Close examination showed that the sole of this shoe differed little, if at all, from those of shoes manufactured today.
In 1897, a carved stone showing multiple faces of an old man was found at a depth of 40 m (130 ft) in a coal mine in Iowa. The coal there was of similar age.
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>>72328700

(start of part 4) A piece of coal yielded up an encased iron cup in 1912. Frank J. Kenwood, who made the discovery, was so intrigued he traced the origin of the coal and discovered it came from the Wilburton Mine in Oklahoma. The coal there is about 312 million years old.
In 1844, Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster reported the discovery of a metal nail embedded in a sandstone block from a quarry in the north of England. The head was completely encased, ruling out the possibility that it had been driven in at some recent date. The block from which it came is approximately 360 million years old.
On 22 June 1844, The Times reported that a length of gold thread had been found by workmen embedded in stone close to the River Tweed. This stone too was around 360 million years old.
Astonishing though these dates may appear to anyone familiar with the orthodox theory of human origins, they pale in comparison with the dates of two further discoveries.
According to Scientific American, dated 5 June 1852, blasting activities at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester, Massachusetts, unearthed a metallic, bell-shaped vessel extensively decorated with silver inlays of flowers and vines. The workmanship was described as 'exquisite'. The vessel was blown out of a bed of Roxbury conglomerate dated somewhat earlier than 600 million years.
In 1993, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson reported the discovery 'over the past several decades' of hundreds of metallic spheres in a pyrophyllite mine in South Africa. The spheres are grooved and give the appearance of having been manufactured. If so, the strata in which they were found suggest they were manufactured 2.8 BILLION years ago.
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>>72328725

(start of part 5) What are we to make of these perplexing discoveries? They cannot simply be dismissed. If even ONE of these discoveries is TRUE (and I believe that MANY if not ALL of these discoveries are TRUE), then it changes EVERYTHING that modern mainstream anthropologists THOUGHT they knew about the human species. (end)
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>>72322776

justsss a conspirassssy

>hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>72322776
Just watch old infowars videos if they're still around. The good ol days of Alex. Sadly now he's just another political pundit. Sad.
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>>72328039
because they feed off our pain and suffering and negative emotions.

This conspiracy actually is a bunch of other little conspiracies all woven together. it can be kind of interesting sometimes.
What I said at the top of my post is actually a theme in a book series. Weird part about the book series? the person who introduced me to it was a friend from elementary school from a high class family. A sociopath who knew/believed alternative history theories in the third grade that he told me about and i didnt understand until after highschool. Hes a cold bastard now. really weirds me out.
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>>72327393

oh wew lad a crappy video shows some shit must be reptillian tongue
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What we call 'reality' is holographic in nature, so we are in fact smaller versions of the whole (which you can call 'God', if you want). Every part of the whole contains the whole and, to be more accurate, IS the whole. And just as a drop of water contains the same qualities as an entire ocean of water, we likewise contain all that is within us - but merely on a smaller scale.

"To see a world in a grain of sand
And a heaven in a wild flower
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand
And eternity in an hour." - William Blake
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>>72329069

The base state of all things is energetic wave-form information, which has been confirmed by quantum physics. This is why everything can be perceived in an infinite number of different ways, because nothing can exist without being perceived and to be perceived, there must be a perceiver. When you see a rose as being red, a bee sees that same rose in shades of ultra-violet and a bat perceives that same rose as vibrations of sound. It all depends on the way that the information is 'read' (so to speak).

"If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is - infinite." - William Blake
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>>72329109

What we need is to raise our level of consciousness, both individually and collectively. If even one person raises his or her level of consciousness, it has a ripple effect that benefits EVERYONE ELSE, even if they don't believe any of this stuff - and this is because 'reality' itself operates in accordance with HOLOGRAPHIC principles. One of the ways that they have manipulated us so deeply for so long is by suppressing our sense of the possible. What we call 'reality' is COMPLETELY ILLUSORY and thus MALLEABLE - and they KNOW THIS, while most other people do NOT. EVERYTHING is illusory, EXCEPT consciousness itself. NOTHING is impossible in a universe that is ILLUSORY to begin with. We have the power to transform this prison illusion into a PARADISE ILLUSION, so let's USE that power.
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>>72329144

Meme magic is real because what we call 'reality' is holographic in nature. The late scientist Emoto used to put written messages next to containers of water, then freeze the water and examine the crystals that had been formed using microscopic photography. The water that had been placed next to positive messages like "I love you." turned into visually pleasing crystal formations, while the water that had been placed next to negative messages like "You make me sick, I want to kill you." turned into irregular crystal formations. In the ancient Indian poem 'Ramayana', a bridge to Lanka is being built with stones for Rama by an army of monkey-like humanoid beings. However, the stones don't stick together to form a continuous structure. Hanuman, Rama's devotee, suggests that Rama's name be written onto the stones so that they stick together. This is done and the stones then stick together to form the bridge that they want to build. In both Emoto's experiments and that story from Ramayana, it's not the mere act of writing that accomplishes those seemingly miraculous results but the VIBRATING ENERGY FIELDS OF INFORMATION of what was written. One of the COMPLETELY FALSE assumptions of modern mainstream science is that our internal world (i.e. our thoughts and our emotions) has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on our external world. But the truth is that there is NO BOUNDARY between our 'internal world' and our 'external world'. They're BOTH movies that originate from the SAME projector room.
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>>72326903
this

you have to look at the so-very-subtle symbolism in media as parables
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>>72329196

In the ancient Sanskrit language of India, the word 'siddhi' means 'perfection'. In its most common usage, the word 'siddhi' refers to an ability that is a natural and inherent faculty of our true identities as eternally alive souls. The soul is smaller than an atom and larger than the universe. The soul is infinitely small and infinitely large. The soul is ALL-PERFECT AND EVER-PERFECT. The soul is the storehouse of ALL ENERGY, ALL POWER AND ALL STRENGTH. The soul is PURE CONSCIOUSNESS. The soul possesses ALL siddhis and there are an INFINITE number of siddhis. Among all of these siddhis, there are considered to be eight major siddhis. Siddhis can be awakened through a variety of methods. In Patanjali's Yoga Sutras IV.1, it is stated:

"Siddhis may be attained through birth, the use of herbs, incantations, self-discipline or samadhi."

Here is a list of the eight major siddhis (in no particular order):

Laghima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as light as you want.

Garima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as heavy as you want.

Mahima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as large as you want.

Anima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as small as you want.

Prapti siddhi: Having unrestricted access to any and/or all places.

Prakamya siddhi: Fulfillment of whatever you desire.

Isitva siddhi: Control over any and/or all of the laws of nature.

Vasitva siddhi: Being able to control any and/or all beings.

"A man is a god in ruins. When men are innocent, life shall be longer, and shall pass into the immortal, as gently as we awake from dreams." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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On September 19, 2011, a Swiss scientific study led by Dr. James Glattfelder proved that a staggering 80% of all the money that was being made in the world was filtering back into the pockets of the Federal Reserve through very carefully disguised "interlocking directorates" of corporations. This includes the big media conglomerates. Supercomputers were used to analyse a database of the top 37 million corporations and individual investors worldwide. Shockingly, only 737 corporations controlled a network that was earning 80% of all the world's profits. This information was deeply hidden within the data and required supercomputer power to discover. These 737 entities enjoyed power in the system that was ten times greater than they should have had from their wealth alone. With even greater number-crunching, this web of ownership could be further narrowed down to a superentity of only 147 companies. An astonishing 75% of the corporations within this superentity are financial institutions. The top 25 financial institutions within this highly covert group include Barclays, JPMorgan Chase & Co., Merrill Lynch, UBS, Bank of New York, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and Bank of America - all of which are allegedly members of the Federal Reserve. The actual banks running the Federal Reserve have never been openly and officially revealed - ostensibly for their own safety and privacy. (end of part 1)
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>>72329365

(start of part 2) Representative Alan Grayson, former representative Ron Paul and now deceased senator Robert Byrd forced through a congressional audit of the Federal Reserve in 2011 and found that the Fed secretly gave away $26 trillion dollars worth of American taxpayers' money. Twenty-six trillion dollars - not to the people, not to the government, but to the top Federal Reserve banks themselves - to bail them out. Several of the bailed-out banks were not even based in the United States. Had this money been redirected to the people, it could have done wonders, considering this staggering figure is well over a third of the value of the entire world's gross domestic product in a given year. However, the greed of the financial institutions is so high, and the gambles they have taken are so huge, that this was only barely enough money to keep them alive. Furthermore, the Nazi Party was financed and supported by Federal Reserve bankers. The Bolshevik Revolution, which created the Soviet Union beginning in 1917, was also financed by Federal Reserve bankers. (end)
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What you should be doing is redpilling people on Jewish control by presenting facts and then arguing against them as a strawman.
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I'm going to tell you about a concept that I call 'conspiracy misdirection'. It's basically a type of misinformation/disinformation. Conspiracy misdirection is what happens when a conspiracy theory is propagated that is considered to be the truth about whatever that conspiracy theory is about, but actually is NOT the truth and hides an even GREATER conspiracy that is TRUE (and thus NOT a 'theory'). One of the MAJOR techniques that intelligence agencies such as the CIA, MI5, the Mossad, etc. use to deceive us is conspiracy misdirection, which is to make certain conspiracy theories popular in mainstream society that are used to push us further away from the truth. I'll give you an example: They'll tell us that the Apollo 11 Moon landing never happened, although I think that what most likely happened is that the Apollo 11 Moon landing not only happened, but they found more than they bargained for on the Moon like artifacts and ruins which CONFIRM that we are NOT alone in the universe. Eventually, we might have even been warned to never come back - which might explain why we've never gone back to the Moon since 1972. Even if we weren't warned to never return to the Moon, we DID land on the Moon and found WORKS OF INTELLIGENCE on it. I am UTTERLY CONVINCED that people on the NASA payroll are pushing the 'Moon hoax' conspiracy theory to push people further from the possibility that beings (possibly even ancient HUMAN beings) landed on the Moon a long time ago and built stuff there. The 'Moon hoax' theory might have even been CREATED by NASA employees. COME ON people, THINK. What do you think is the more paradigm-shattering secret?: The possibility that we DIDN'T land on the Moon or the possibility that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there? OBVIOUSLY it's the second possibility. (end of part 1)
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>>72329467

(start of part 2) You see, the REAL reason why the second possibility is being hidden from us is NOT because a loving government wants to prevent mass panic (that's just the cover story), but because they want to prevent us from asking 'too many' questions. If it were confirmed that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there but were lied to about such a historic discovery, then people (and LOTS of them) WOULD ask more questions about what else they've been lied to about. They'd say "Well, they lied to us about that, so what ELSE have they lied to us about? The origin and history of the human species? The pharmaceutical industry? Free energy? The banking industry?" It opens the door to EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. And THAT'S why the 'Moon hoax' theory is FIERCELY promoted, while most people have almost NEVER heard of that second possibility (and, more worryingly, probably haven't even THOUGHT ABOUT IT). Another example of conspiracy misdirection is the sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory. The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory is a CIA psyop designed to divide and distract people from the TRUE nature of Earth, which is that Earth is HOLLOW. Earth's crust is about 800 miles thick and there is a 'sun' at Earth's centre (which is actually a nuclear fission reactor) which is about 650 miles in diameter and the distance between a dweller in the Inner Earth world and their inner central 'sun' is only about 2,900 miles. (end of part 2)
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>>72329498

(start of part 3) Okay, this is a shorter version of what conspiracy misdirection is for people that don't like reading lots of text: Conspiracy misdirection is when a false conspiracy theory is used to hide a true conspiracy theory that has even more far-reaching implications than the false conspiracy theory. (end)
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>>72322776
reptilian shill confirmed
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>>72329467
You are lowering the tone of /pol/. That is pretty amazing considering the quality of the average post on this site.

Well done.
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>>72329459

As influential as they are, Jews are merely vessels for an even greater force. If you think otherwise, you are mistaken. inb4 JIDF (I don't even believe that Jews were gassed)
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>on a bus
>mother and child sitting in front of me
>child looks at me and says "mummy, look at the lizardman"
>mother panics and hushes the child

If lizardmen are a myth, what was she so afraid of?
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>>72329782
A chimp man.
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>>72329852
The truth hurts :'(
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Here is something that Christine Fitzgerald told David Icke:
"The Queen Mother..... now that's a serious piece of wizardry. The Queen Mother is a lot older than people think. To be honest, the Royal Family hasn't died for a long time, they have just metamorphosised. It's sort of cloning, but in a different way. They take pieces of flesh and rebuild the body from one little bit. Because it's lizard, because it's cold-blooded, it's much easier for them to do Frankenstein shit than it is for us. The different bodies are just different electrical vibrations and they have got that secret, they've got the secret of the micro-currents, it's so micro, so specific, these radio waves that actually create the bodies (holograms)."
What I think is interesting here is that Christine Fitzgerald said "They take pieces of flesh and rebuild the body from one little bit.". In the ancient Indian epic poem known as the 'Mahabharat', there is a group of one hundred royal brothers known as the 'Kauravas'. The Kauravas are the antagonists of the Mahabharat. Do you know how the Kauravas were born? The Kauravas were born from a piece of lifeless flesh which was cut into one hundred pieces and then each of these one hundred pieces of flesh were put into one hundred jars filled with oil. After two years, the jars were opened and the Kauravas were released from the jars. If Christine Fitzgerald does not know about this story from the Mahabharat (which the Mahabharat ITSELF claims to be an account of actual historical events), then in my opinion, that gives more credibility to the things that Christine Fitzgerald has said to David Icke.
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>>72322776
Lizardman is codeword for jews.
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>>72330103
And Jew is codeword for internationalists.
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>>72324872
Cool story, bro! KEKed good! °,..,°
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>>72322776
It's just disinfo to begin with. Crafted to brand anything or anyone touching any topics similar to the theory as crazy shit or crazies.
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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dinosaurs-from-space-64403301/?no-ist
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The best way to explode a myth is to adopt it and show contradictions and internal inconsistency.

The best evidence for Reptilians is wishful thinking.
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