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Why do you judge people who fap with fleshlights and plushies and such? It's 2016 equality with sex toys.
Also thinking about getting a prostrate massager
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>>72318058
Equality is the opposity of quality.
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>>72318156
Kek.
No.
Why not just embrace it desu? Having kinks and sex toys is totally fine now that it's the current year plus one.
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>>72318241
Better check your clock again NEET.
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Male sex toys are degenerate because they devalue the vagina and only women should be able to have control over that value.
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When a girl buys a vibrator, its seen as a bit of naughty fun. BUT when I order a 240 Volt FuckMaster Pro 5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed pulsating vagina, elasticized anus with non-drip semen collection tray, together with optional built in realistic orgasm scream surround sound system, I'm called a pervert?
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>>72318329
What's your dolls name?
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>>72318058
http://www.catholic.com/blog/matt-fradd/c-s-lewis-on-lust-women-and-masturbation

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C. S. Lewis on Lust, Women, and Masturbation
Matt Fradd
August 13, 2013 | 2 comments


Here are three beautifully worded, eye-opening quotes from C. S. Lewis on lust, women, and masturbation. I offer them in my seminars on pornography and wanted to share them with you.

Lust

“Lust is a poor, weak, whimpering, whispering thing compared with that richness and energy of desire which will arise when lust has been killed.”

- The Great Divorce

Women

“We use a most unfortunate idiom when we say, of a lustful man prowling the streets, that he “wants a woman.” Strictly speaking, a woman is just what he does not want.

"He wants a pleasure for which a woman happens to be the necessary piece of apparatus. How much he cares about the woman as such may be gauged by his attitude to her five minutes after fruition (one does not keep the carton after one has smoked the cigarettes).

"Now Eros makes a man really want, not a woman, but one particular woman. In some mysterious but quite indisputable fashion the lover desires the Beloved herself, not the pleasure she can give."

- The Four Loves

Masturbation

“For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.

"And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman.

"For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no woman can rival.
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>>72318448
"Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover; no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity.

"In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself. . . . After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.”

- Personal Letter From Lewis to Keith Masson (found in The Collected Letters of C.S. Lewis, Volume 3)
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>>72318329
Don't forget to buy the one shaped like a 9 nine year old, Texas.
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>>72318288
I'm not a NEET though.
Why do you have to be a NEET to want to get sex toys?
>>72318298
Is this unironic? I can't tell. Who even cares about having sex with 3D at this point tbqh. I'd rather just have a comfy gf.
>>72318329
>FuckMaster Pro 500
Now that's just an efficient design.
also
>pevert
In my opinion nothing in private is really even peverted anymore. Everyone and their mother has seen all kinds of wierd shit nowadays thanks to the internet. It's only the people who are creepers IRL that people dislike.
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>>72318519
>>72318448
How is this relevant to sex toys?
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>>72318058

Male sex toys aren't inherently degenerate, it is the people that use them that are degenerate.

When someone uses fleshlights and onaholes because they lack the courage to talk to and fuck actual women, then they've crossed the boundary of its use as a supplement to one's sex life. THAT is degenerate.

If you and your girlfriend (3D, not your waifu that doesn't actually exist except in your Chinese cartoons) want to play with toys and experiment, there is nothing wrong with that. If a guy wants to use one just for fun, but is not using it as an escape device, then I don't see much wrong in that.

Like I said before, they are sex-life supplements, not the end in and of themselves. That is how one should determine if it is degenerate.
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>>72318548
A real NEET would have actually checked to see if it was the right year.

Can you look your co-workers in the eyes now that you've defiled yourself?
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>>72318615
It means they actually are degenerate.
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>>72318058
Stop putting things in your ass, you cheeky cunt.
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>>72318521
9 nine years olds?!??! I'm sold whats better than that
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>>72318618
The escapism meme.
You know you can fap AND talk to women right?
If anything fapping stops me from following my dick around like an animal. Which is worse when it comes down to it?
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>>72318058
>Why do you judge people who fuck machines
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CTRL F "Shill"

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CTRL F "Slide"

0 matches

Why hasn't anyone called out OP on his shilling? Saged
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>>72318058
Use your hand or get a girlfriend, you fucking idiot. Your mum has to buy a dick shaped toy because I'm not available all the time, but you have a makeshift hole right in the palm of your hand.
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>>72318672
>workers
I'm not employed.
I'm not a NEET either.
>>72318685
So? That just makes it hotter desu.
>>72318730
I haven't put anything in my ass in the better part of a decade. It's long overdue desu.
>>72318795
>machines
I wouldn't qualify a fleshlight or something you put in your ass a machine but ok.
>>72318808
>shilling
How is anal masturbation shilling?
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>>72318058

Sticking things up your ass is gay m8
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>>72318888
>implying I wouldn't use my hand AND something for my prostrate.
as the old saying goes:
Why not both?
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>>72318915
It isn't. But faggots like you are shilling for degeneracy by making a thread about it.
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>>72318915
I didn't ask what you were. I asked how you look people in the eye.
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>>72318915
>So? That just makes it hotter desu.
You were saying sex toys aren't degenerate. I proved you wrong.
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>>72318948
Explain to me how a prostrate massager is not highly straight?
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>>72318618
But women only want exotic foreigners as partners, talking them is a waste of time. I also don't have status and money so a sex doll is a better option when you know you can't have a partner.
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>>72318990
>shilling degeneracy
If feeling good is degenerate then the 7 beers I had last night whilst playing Borderlands with a mate was degenerate.
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>>72318058
You're a degenerate of the highest order.
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>>72318770

>The escapism meme. You know you can fap AND talk to women right?

Considering that is what I said, I'll have to take issue with your ability to actually read what I had written. I stated that using toys purely as escapism was a problem, not the use of toys themselves, or in supplementing normal sexual experience. Specifically, I said it was fine for a guy to use them, so long as it isn't being used as a device to retreat from the world at large.

>If anything fapping stops me from following my dick around like an animal. Which is worse when it comes down to it?

This actually sounds more like an issue with willpower and self-restraint. Are you saying that you lack the temerity and force of will to control your own impulses? Weak.
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Sex toys and fapping are degenerate for the same reason MDMA and weed are: they're a fleeting short-term replacement for actual achievement.

Nobody expects you to completely stop fapping, of course, in the same way that everyone's smoked weed at some point, but you should try to rein in your impulses and direct your energy at the long term. Buying a fleshlight is like giving up on ever having a stable long-term relationship.
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>>72319026
Don't you realize faggots almost exclusively use prostate simulation?

Argue about how it may be straight, but it isn't "highly straight" you faggot.

Saged again.
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>>72318058
>anime
>namefag
>brixit
>clearly new to /pol/

STOP POSTING IN A SHILL THREAD EVERYBODY
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>>72318329
Haha, epic!
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Senpai. Just go to one of those sex parties where everyone wears a mask. Its impossible to be a virgin in this day and age.
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>>72319081
>"how is promoting hedonism
degenerate!?"
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>>72319020
>how you look people in the eye
With a smile and plenty of charm. Works wonders.
>>72319024
Poland pls go.
>>72319079
I wish I could avoid the 3D meme like you. I just work out and fap desu. I've never made an effort with women but from time to time I've had attractive looking grills hit on me.
>>72319095
Outside of pol no one seems to care tho.
>>72319114
I have a sex drive and If I don't fap I just end up so goddamn horny it becomes a distraction.
Maybe you just have low test.
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>>72318329
No, that's called fucking your mom lmao
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>>72319289
Post things you fap to for research purposes.
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>>72319079

>But women only want exotic foreigners as partners, talking them is a waste of time.

This is an outright lie.

>I also don't have status and money so a sex doll is a better option when you know you can't have a partner.

It isn't better. It means you've given up. What you have done is thrown in the towel without putting in the effort. "Shit is impossible, why even bother?" This mentality is completely fucked, as you set yourself up a self-fulfilling prophecy to act as a salve for your failure.

You need to try and continue trying. Take each failure as a learning experience. If you don't have status or money or looks, then earn them. Work harder, lift weights, etc. Let's be clear this isn't for the bitches, this is for you as a self-respecting MAN.

I work out, I even keep my house immaculate. Why? Well, a castle represents its king. Defeatism is what the weak do, don't do that.
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I don't care if someone uses a fleshlight or wank themselves in their own privacy. If they keep it private then I don't worry about it because feminism has made it so damn hard for guys to get laid, but if you're going to use a prostate massager then just admit you're a fag while your at it. any guy that gets off that way is gay as fuck.
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>>72319226
Guess it's time to do the impossible
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>>72318058
>Also thinking about getting a prostrate massager
>Willfully sticking things up your ass
Faggot
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>>72319480

"All Brits are faggots." - George Washington.
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>>72319161
>harmful drugs
>natural release
Pick one and only one
>>72319187
>now wanting the UK out of Europe
SHILL
>>72319226
If I do the secret handshake do I get in?
>>72319235
>not liking hedonism
I'll settle when I'm late 30's. Why not enjoy your prime like women do?
>>72319365
The list of what I don't fap too would be shorter desu.
It's all 3D though, I tried to get into 2D and I just don't get it.
>>72319480
>hurr hurr sex toys are gay
It's not the 1940's gramps, prostate stimulation is well known about.
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>>72319586
>I want to wait until 30 to become a wasted used up piece of shit to settle down

Spotted the jewess
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>>72319586
I'm very pro BREXIT.

You made a thread called BRIXIT and tried to explain what it was as if the entirety of /pol/ doesn't know. Lurk more.
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>>72319586
Doesn't change the fact you're sticking things up your ass like a degenerate faggot.
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>>72318241
Because as a man you're expected to have control of your urges and impulses.
Failure to do so means you're not living up to the standard.

If you wish to fail to meet such standards, that is your decision, however, you do not get to decide how the people who do actually meet the male expectations think of you.
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>>72318241
Do yourself a favor tripfag and drink bleach
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>>72319289

>I have a sex drive and If I don't fap I just end up so goddamn horny it becomes a distraction.

I guess this is less of an issue for someone who has sex regularly, but even without one can develop an iron control of their impulses. Be able to deny self-gratification is an important process in success. It does however, take effort.

>Maybe you just have low test.

Childish ad hom. Does saying this make you feel better about your lack of self-control or results? My test levels are actually high normal, which is probably why I've done quite well in the weight room and when I had played collegiate rugby. There goes that theory.
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>>72319586
My diagnosis: end your life.
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>>72319650
>muh spelling!
literally 'tism the post
>>72319699
The people who are so afraid of being seen as gay are usually in the closet. Even if I where a raging flamer I wouldn't care desu.
>>72319765
>have control
It's not 1953 mate.
>male expectations
Kek. Masculinity died when globalization happened. People make their judgements on how you look.
I'm off to the gym to work pecs.
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>>72319860
>hurr durr I lift
I'm sure your not the typical obese dyel.
>>72319884
>not wanting to be a cute princess sometimes
Don't even care desu.
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>>72319987
Then why did you respond? Aren't you supposed to be at the gym "working pecs"?
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>>72320171
Clearly I haven't left yet.
I'm waiting for my stomach to settle before leaving.
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>>72319987

>I'm sure your not the typical obese dyel.

This is actually an example of the mentality that is deadly to succeeding. You are simply attacking viciously, instead of propping up your own achievements. That is generally a better sign of your own self-perceived shortcomings than anything else.

Attack with things that show you are proud of who you are, and if you don't have those, create them through your own effort. Childish ad homs are ineffective when there is nothing to exploit in your opponent.
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>>72319289
>I just work out and fap desu.
Same here, but when I meet women they are either degenerates or coal burners.
>>72319390
I work out daily and I'm working on creative content and can hopefully make money off it one day. Finding a job here will be nearly impossible, I have no education and I'm not welcome in school. I guess I just have to try more dating sites or something when I finally get my own house.
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