Should vaping be banned? Regulated? Encouraged?
Banned. It is degenerate.
Tobacco and alcohol should be banned as well.
Any kind of drug should be banned.
Homosexuality and sex for the explicit purpose of pleasure should be banned.
Pornography should be banned.
>>72248312
This
>>72248312
Because banning substances works so well, right?
Where there is demand there will be supply. This is factual.
I like it when those explode. It makes me very happy.
I think people who vape should be kicked in the balls as I've never met a person who vaped who also wasn't a complete and total jackass about it.
>>72248194
Free market. No nanny state laws or sin taxes, you cucks.
Does anyone know any political frontrunners, i.e. candidates for president, prime minister, chancellor, etc. who have opinions on vaping? Curious to hear what Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, etc. have to say on it.
Is it generally regarded as equivalent to tobacco products?
>>72248194
I don't like how people outed it to be some hipster type bullshit its portrayed today. I use one but now I just feel like a enormous tool for doing so. I only started using one to quit real cigarettes. It worked but fuck do I feel like a douche using one in public.
>>72248312
if it is not harming you directly or indirectly, nor forcing anyone to do anything against their will directly or indirectly, its none of your business
any manner of legal suppression serves to benefit the cigarettes companies and the state the tithes every pack. It is acceptable as harm reduction and people who write it off adhoc are no lesser dicks that mouthfedorabros
It's smoking for pretentious shits,who cares.
>>72248194
None of the above, authoritarian faggots get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>>72248312
t. Statist cuck
>>72248312
That's the kind of thing I'd expect someone from my own Nanny State to say.
>>72248312
>>72248383
>being Muslim
>wanting Sharia law
>>72248410
Only idiots who don't know how to properly maintain their devices, especially those in series rather than parallel, experience this and they deserve it for being idiots.
>>72248418
>I've never met a person who vaped who also wasn't a complete and total jackass about it.
That's because the ones who are in your face about it are total dweebs. A lot of people vape, but only a small, vocal minority of vapers are complete faggots about it. You haven't met any kind, humble vapers because they're just that; Kind and humble. They don't whip their e-cig dick out every chance they get. It's the same case with people who smoke marijuana.
>>72248474
Kike lobbyists from big tobacco have forced le vaping fedora meme to stir business away from e-cigs in general because it's a cheaper, safer alternative to using tobacco products and they don't like that.
>>72248410
kek
>>72248312
No you fucking retard, a ban on ANY substance DOENS'T work. How can thickheaded retards like you continue to follow this retarded war on drugs? The war has been going on for about 50 years now, what good has come out of it?
I can tell you that: More addiction, more potent substances, massive blackmarket rolling in MASSIVE amounts of black money, MASSIVE waste of governmental funding to the police to pursue drugs and drugusers, aswel as incarcenating them.
And the list goes on and on.
If we follow the more liberal approach (I'm not a liberal, but this is one of the few things the libtards actually are right about) to substances, and be more like Portugal or the states in America that has legalized cannabis, we will see a much more positive outcome.
>>72248194
>>72248460
Regulated, just because it's so easy and cheap to just mix toxic shit in the vaping liquid. There has to be some regulation on the side of the producers, just as a precaution from people punting in lead or some other nasty shit.
Besides that free market.
Vapers should be shot in the head t|b|h
>>72248312
nice try Abumed
>>72248904
Wouldn't a free market solution be the best bet for this though? Allowing government intervention is just another form of control for authoritarian leaders to get into your pocket.
Look at all the harmful chemicals in cigarettes these days, and that's heavily regulated by the government. If you think more government meddling in business affairs will fix anything you are sorely mistaken.
>>72248312
Move back to the shit hole Middle East country you came from.
I started vaping CBD oil to help with chronic pain. I always ask permission to vape around people before I do it, just like how my dad would ask permission if he could smoke.
I mostly vape in my car and at my home, but if a business will allow it I'll vape inside. For example the gun shop I work at allows vaping as long as you're not blowing it in other people's faces.
>>72248194
>>72248194
I use a vape, it's cheaper. Fuck paying £7.50 for 20 cancer sticks. fucking niggers.
>>72248777
Muslims love fucking all day, children, animals, and unwilling, all for pleasure, all for degeneracy. They are less than dirt spending all their time on degenerate and debauchered acts of idiocy, advacing not technologically, culturally, or socially, merely advancing the agendas of those manipulating them.
>>72248901
If you ban everything it will naturally not magically make it disappear, however, there comes a point where possession is more trouble than its worth, which means the ban at least worked somewhat. The idea is to be perceived as omniscient, if they believe so they will certainly not do foolish illegal acts.
Corruption is the ultimate degeneracy, betraying not only their people and country as a whole, but also themselves, succumbing to animalistic and unintelligent desires, pursuing no future. It will be hard to hinder but could be possible in some unrealistic scenarios.
The more ground you give to degeneracy, the more degeneracy will grow. You cannot give any quarter.
>>72249063
I only do it at home, in my car, and in designated smoking areas. I don't like doing it in stores or public places (save for local brick & mortar vape shops). The second hand vapor is harmless, but it's the principle of the matter and being respectful of those around you.
>>72249102
What mod are you using breh?
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>>72249150
Your comment described Sharia law to a "T" though. That much control would just turn 99% of the general population into criminals and you wouldn't be able to hold power very long unless you instilled a North Korea-type dictatorship, which would get you fucked over on an international level because nobody would give your poor starving degenerate population any food or supplies, and you wouldn't be able to make any for yourself because your market would be totally fucked from all the regulations + all the other first world countries boycotting you for impeding basic human rights.
>>72249210
Yeah, the places I do it are typically places which allow smoking.
If I'm in a busy parking lot, I won't even roll my windows down. I just leave a little crack for the vapor to escape that way it's not bothering people.
Hell, some places that allow smoking I won't even vape in.
>>72249045
It's quite a bit different, since most of those chemicals come from the tobacco manufacturing process.
I dunno though, there should be some more research on what is toxic to your lungs if inhaled in high doses, like glycerol and other flavour enhancing shit that is not toxic when ingested can be toxic if smoked.
I don't really think companies would do their do diligence before a number of people died or had serious health problems. I might be wrong, but I don't trust them any more than I trust the government.
Truth is I don't know... free market might solve everything or it might just kill a lot of people before someone starts regulating.
>>72249150
I forgot to mention the amount of corruption that happens behind a prohibition scene, you contradict yourself. You're retarded.
Ano, there is no point where possesion is more trouble than its worth, how on earth do you expain drug users in the middle east, they are risking their lives taking drugs, since drug use is punishable by death. Again, you're retarded.
mandatory vape sessions and black cock doses for everyone
if you dont want it you get gassed
>>72249368
The populace must be guided somewhat, but they must ultimately decide upon it themselves. If the populace does not believe in helping their fellow man, their country, and themselves, then they will naturally not support a heavily regulated and authoritarian state.
It is only possible if the people are willing, whether they were willing to become willing does not matter.
Naturally on an international level The Jew would do everything to instill havoc in such an independent nation, not relying on immigrants or other countries, instead being by itself doing only what is necessary for its own people and its own state. There would not be shortage of food or supplies if it were to be run properly, putting every man to work and giving fair wages and spiritual motivation (that of serving the state, his people, and himself).
>>72248194
C:) Ignored as long as it isn't being advocated/promoted. Basically like Russia's anti-propaganda faggot laws.
And I say this as somebody who has vaped for 5 years.
>>72248194
Whoever says it should be banned is a communist. Tell all ban vaping fags that there communist.
There was a time when /pol/ was libertarian and didn't care what others did as long as it didn't affect them because that's freedom. Now, a good amount of users want anything they disagree with banned.
I miss the old times.
For the record, I don't vape. It doesn't affect me and I don't care if they do it.
>>72248461
My guess...
Trump - Don't fuck things up for everyone else. Do it at home, that's your right but in public act like a decent human and don't blow your clouds into others showing off.
Clinton - Heavily taxed and even more heavily regulated
Cruz - Something something the Bible, something something, my friends in North Carolina
Sanders - Oh, we must think of the children. The children need to be thought of. Vaping must not be allowed because of the children.
K-tard - Who the fuck cares?
>>72248194
Neither of all you fucking faggot. Do you hate freedom? And I don't even vape myself, smoking real cigs.
>>72249210
itaste mvp3, fuck those stupid mechanical mods. stupid cunts using them to blow clouds like a massive colossal cock sucker.
I don't give a shit.
It don't effect me in any way.
Bla, bla bla, liberty, bla bla bla, freedom.
Now fuck off.
>>72248194
None. It's a stupid fad that will pass most likely. A lot of people use them to ween themselves off of cigs which is fine. But every dudebro has a fucking VHS tape in their mouth every 5 seconds talking about what mods and flavors they're using.
It's annoying, nothing more or less.
>>72248194
Only regulated in that they shouldn't contain illegal shit.
Otherwise, I don't care.
Vapers are cunts but at least they aren't smelly cunts like smokers. They make up by being as unlikeable as stoners.
>>72248194
Regulated and treated the same as cigs. My city banned it from indoor use.
Is there an age limit on vaping like there is on smoking? Isn't vape just water vapor? Can't that drown you?
>>72249793
Trump wants tobacco, alcohol, etc gone. He's an authoritarian and one step closer to making 1984 become non-fiction.
>>72249405
>>72249210
Also, my gun shop started selling these things. They're MOLLE/Tacticool vape cases that hold 2-3 pens/tanks and a front pocket for your oil/flavoring.
Butthurt patch not included.
>>72250304
>Isn't vape just water vapor? Can't that drown you?
American education...
>>72248312
you statists are no fun at all
>>72250004
Yeah it's annoying to hear them go on and one about it but I think there is a bigger issue which is best identified by look at who vapes the most: young males. That's the age when men are trying to find their place in the world. In the past it was done by combat. Later by competitive sports. Then by tinkering. There's some overlap in each of these phases but the bottom line is that tinkering is one of the ways males use to differentiate themselves from each other. Tinkering with cars used to be one of the most popular forms of this but since cars are much more expensive than they used to be and much less easy to tinker with beyond the stereo and cosmetic changes, young males are turning to other forms of tinkering, including all the boring shit about coils and juices that come with taking up vaping as a hobby.
>>72248312
Allah ackbar
>>72250322
He doesn't do any of those things himself but I have heard nothing from him that suggests that he is opposed to others using them in a manner that doesn't harm others.
>>72248194
Vaping is absolutely degenerate, only degenerates vape.
They are a ploy by big tobacco to Jew even more money from Americans
>>72248194
>banned?
No
>Regulated?
No
>Encouraged?
No
>>72250706
I just did some checking and he's kind of all over the place, honestly. He suuports the war on drugs, apparently. He has legitimately changed his opinions a few times so I'm not entirely sure. His comments on expanding police forces to deal with beaners could lead to other things once the "menace" is gone.
>>72248474
Does it really work as a replacement?
Most people I know who vape still smoke cigarettes. I got goofy high when I vaped the first time because I wasn't used to that much nicotine but it still wasn't as enjoyable as just having a plain old cigarette.
>>72250331
That's fucking awesome.
>>72250629
>hobby
>not habit
>>72248312
Everything in moderation, Still don't like vaping though. That shit should be banned.
>>72251529
Yeah it works. I'm running low nicotine doses, like under 3mg/ml. If I have a cigarette, which is very rare nowadays, it gives me a massive head spin.
>>72248194
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>>72251529
I started with 24% nicotine to quit, now I'm down to three sometimes zero.
I can't stand smoking at all now. Taste awful, and it makes me feel sick.
I use snus at school, because I can't vape on campus.
>>72248901
>what good has come out of it
A lot of federal prison inmates who are in there for repeat offenses relating to minor drugs like marijuana. Which I'm sure is the purpose of the war on drugs in the first place, to feed the prison industrial complex.
>>72248312
>Homosexuality and sex for the explicit purpose of pleasure should be banned.
So some faggot is gonna walk around regulating and keeping a close eye on people, invading their privacy.
No thank you. Go back to your own controlling bullshit country.
>>72251745
Why? Its a less dangerous alternative to smoking while still providing the cognitive benefits of nicotine.
As a former 8 year smoker and now a full time vaper its a choice that you make. My lungs feel way fucking better. I still treat it as smoking, if there are anti-smoking laws in place (fucking everywhere now) you don't do it. 3M from an entrance all that jazz.
Its only the little edgy faggots ruining it. Also, the dumb niggers who don't understand Ohms law blowing themselves up on unregulated mods.
>>72251529
Yes, it does work. I smoked cigars for 8 years before moving to this. Started on a high nic juice then dropped when i got into a sub Ohm mod. Sitting at 6mg/ml liquid now.
I did both for a year or so, and have been off the cigars for 5 months now. Hell the only time i ever feel like i want one is when i'm drinking with someone who is smoking my old brand.
I don't really, they taste like shit.
>>72251622
Well yes, addiction to the nicotine in the juice is an issue but the complaint was that they talk about vaping mods all the time which is tediously boring conversation for those of us who don't vape and probably even though who do but aren't into modding. The tinkering part is what is the hobby, not the nicotine addiction part.
If someone wants to vape, smoke, drink beer or eat greasy food then it's their absolute right to do so. It's my body, and if I want to fuck it up then the state has no right to stop me.
>>72248410
Me too, because it only happens to dumb niggers that run unregulated mods and don't understand ohms law.
Survival of the fittest.
banning shit doesn't work.
although not banning it doesn't make it any less stupid.
>>72252915
They should do in some countries.
Why should you get a right to free healthcare induced by you being a fat fuck, costing me in the long run?
Why should I have to pay for your stitches when you cut your head open because you got drunk on a Friday evening like a pathetic loser who has to "unwind" by poisoning himself?
>>72253054
Why do you give invaders free healthcare after they cut themselves while raping your children?
>>72248312
Hello Big Brother.
>>72252915
While there are plenty of nanny staters around who just like telling everyone what they can and can't do, many of us simply don't like the little fags who vape clouds around other people just to be jackasses. Once upon a time society settled these social faux paus by beating the shit out of the offender while the police looked the other way but that's pretty much frowned upon now.
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>>72249793
Kasich-I brought jobs back to Ohio
FTFY
>>72253054
>because you got drunk on a Friday evening like a pathetic loser who has to "unwind" by poisoning himself?
I don't even drink m8 but you sound like an absolute weenie. Or a Muslim.
Freedom to make bad decisions is inherent in the freedom to make good ones m8. You want free healthcare, you got to share it with some thickheaded teen who tried to jump over a woodchipper on his skateboard. Your only alternative is to either surfically remove the ability to make bad decisions from our brains or seal everyone in some kind of indestructible bubble where we can't do anything in case it's dangerous.
