How are these good ideas?
To win a war, you must kill your enemies.
>>72235600
>Bernie on terrorism
>'the only terrorism comes from Wall St'
THANKS BERNIE
It's what do the russians do with chechens and it works pretty well.
>>72235600
the american government already does these things. trump is the only one courageous to come out and say it
They work
>>72235600
>Use soldiers to kill and torture your enemies
How are they not?
>>72235600
how are they not?
How are they not?
it just werks senpai
>>72235721
>implying he doesn't know who's really behind ISIS and he wouldn't dare send more Americans to die for Israeli interests
>>72235702
but if you do that they win!!
>>72235600
That's how you deal with subhuman savages.
>>72235600
That's just conservative warfare, i.e. war like it was always been.
>>72235600
Did he actually say that?
Because that's pretty stomach churning.
Killing families of the enemy is a war crime
tl;dr this guy is completely fucking retarded
>>72235600
laws are for men. fight like animals, die like them
>>72235600
>let's pretend like king obongo hasnt been doing this exact thing
Let's see
>just sent 250 more troops to fight ISIS (not enough, but still)
>drone strikes hundreds of people, no idea who they are, collateral damage is a given
>kept guantanamo open for years after promising to close it (they obviously have other black sites)
It's just doing business.
>>72235600
Killing terrorists entire families is a little extreme but ground troops and torture are great ideas.
>>72235600
It's basically just more of what we're already doing. I honestly feel like people in the middle east would hate us less if we just took retribution on the families of terrorists instead of destroying entire countries and ending millions of innocent people's lives "on accident" every time.
>>72235821
>Free staters are boot-licking imperialists
Not surprised tbqh.
>>72235600
Terrorists don't deserve the formalities of the Geneva Convention.
>>72235885
Sanders would know all about Israeli interests
I'm about 90% sure Trump has withdrawn the families statement
>>72235600
It's the same thing Killary would do, she'd just lie about it.
This must be your first day on /pol/
>>72235600
i dont want ground troops anywhere
however - given that saudi, Israel, turkey and obama built ISIS (or purposely let them grow), it is interesting that he will take real action against them.
also he will have a rapprochement with russia/putin and stop supporting the syrian terrorists
this will be a huge re-alignment if trump gets in
>>72236101
>>let's pretend like king obongo hasnt been doing this exact thing
This. It's called drones yo, so what if there were kids at your "wedding party"
>ground troops to battle ISIS
He's fortunately backed out of this in favor of supporting Iraq and Syria
>killing the families of terrorists
The only way that ISIS can be defeated. Terrorism is bred and encouraged by their families, and we have a choice of either not fighting ISIS at all and letting it flow naturally, or killing their families and ending ISIS. Fighting them without scorched Earth is a waste of money that will only help them.
>in favor of torture
Useless for getting information but I guess it discourages terrorism and punishes people
>>72236072
If this was the leader of a Muslim country saying these things /pol/ would be using it as an example of how degenerate Muslims are and how incompatible they are with western society
>>72236050
Yes, we all know how you stand on terrorism, britbong.
When a terrorist beheads a soldier on your own streets, you pull out your cell phones and let the mudshit spew his ideology on camera with his bloody hands.
>>72236103
I actually think families would be a good idea. Puts everyone on fucking notice.
>>72235600
How are they not? The families are the support infrastructure of a conventional army. They're legit targets.
If you start a war, don't come complaining that it's hard.
I disagree with him on torture (mostly because burgers don't even try to get the right people)
But killing the families of terrorists is fine by me, fuck kebabs. People SHOULD fear for their life if one of their family members becomes an ISIS bomber, it's their responsibility.
>>72236221
Sanders is literally the only candidate who isn't deepthroating Israeli cock like the others. He didn't even show up at the AIPAC conference while Trump meanwhile was there talking about how he's proud of his daughter's BEAUTIFUL JEWISH BABY, and generally sucking lots of Israeli/Jewish cock
Donald Trump would deploy up to 30,000 American soldiers in the Middle East to defeat the Islamic State, he said at Thursday night’s debate.
Trump was answering a question about comments from General Lloyd Austin III, the head of U.S. Central Command who said more troops on the ground would be needed to defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq.
“We really have no choice, we have to knock out ISIS,” Trump said. “I would listen to the generals, but I’m hearing numbers of 20,000-30,000.”
Trump typically rails against American military involvement around the world, but he was not alone in calling for ground troops in Iraq and Syria at the debate.
“We need to do whatever is necessary to utterly defeat ISIS,” Senator Ted Cruz said. “We need to put whatever ground power is needed.”
“You have to be in the air and you have to be on the ground,” said Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
>>72236203
>>72235600
Good? No. Fucking awesome? Yes.
>>72235600
Fighting terrorism with moral standards is like going into a fight with your hands tied behind your back.
If it were me, I would go full scorched fucking earth on those ragheads. I would execute anyone who stands in our way.
That is how you win.
>>72236332
>I support killing women and children non-combatants.
Iran was right all along, the USA really are the biggest terrorists known to man.
>>72236103
It's necessary. Muslim terrorists don't care for their own lives. They salivate over the chance to die fighting in the name of Allah. They might actually take pause if they know their actions will result in their mothers, sons, and daughters being blown up.
Despite what I said in >>72235702 merely killing your enemies isn't enough (unless you're literally going to kill everyone). You have to break their will to fight.
>>72235600
>he doesn't want America to be great again
You have to go back
>>72236072
You don't have to actually do it. Threats can be very effective. More so than saying we are going to treat our enemies with dignity and restraint.
>>72236440
thats because he has their tacit support.
he is on the international side
>>72236103
>torture is a great idea
only when its use is greatly restricted and controlled. If you know for a fact the person is the enemy and knows the information you're trying to get then it's extremely useful. But if it is used without caution you could potentially be torturing genuinely innocent people. That is not okay under any circumstance, especially from the supposed leaders of the free world.
>>72236072
>war crimes
Arbitrary concept that has no actual meaning and no one could enforce on a commander in chief
>>72235600
Because they'll get him elected. In reality, there are CIA backed rebels fighting DOD backed rebels in Syria. Cutting the support off and letting local fighters take care of the problem while walling the entire Middle East off from the civilized world would work.
As for the killing of the families, you're dealing with people who will snackbar by blowing themselves up in a goddamned nightclub. The gloves are off with that kind of shit. You kill one of mine, I'll kill all of yours, and I'll make sure the whole goddamned world knows about what I did and why I did it.
>>72236101
>250?
Bro the numbers are in the thousands. Thats just syria which is at now 300+/-. 10th mountain and another division set back to iraq. Also unit rotations in afgahnistan are stayinf the same with no withdraw in sight. King nigger said he will end those wars
>>72235600
Trump on Fox now, talking about Reagan tearing down that wall, Ironic that he is going to put one up, kek.
>>72236585
>Muslim
>non combatants
No wonder your country is floundering towards destruction.
>>72236880
>They are combatants just because they are Muslim
African tier logic.
>>72236306
You think you can just selectively kill of entire families from a community without that having repercussions? You think the friends and survived families of those people are just going to go on and live happy peaceful lives?
>>72235600
Trump is not one for good ideas.
pic related
>>72235600
if Mossad and Saudi are behind ISIS, this is one way to stop their plans. As of right now, we only have heaps of coincidence, anecdotal evidence, and conjecture that ISIS is controlled by anyone;
they most likely are pawns, but destroying all the pawns will reveal the real strength. Either way, ISIS needs to be completely wiped out. and then label half of muslims ISIS and we have ourselves the greatest President ever.
>>72236946
Can't get rid of the weeds unless you pull out the roots. Not my fault you love having them grow back to fuck your garden up.
>>72236956
Which is why I don't support fighting ISIS. The U.S. Military should only fight on home soil.
You don't win wars with savages by sending love letters.
and btw, he's reading this off a teleprompter, he said he will last night. something he criticized shillary for
>>72235776
this
Unless explicitly stated otherwise, every candidate stands for
>NSA monitoring
>DHS watchlists
>irresponsible/indiscriminate drone bombings
>total war on anti-American forces
>the multitude of other war crimes and human rights violations committed by the CIA
The fact that Trump openly supports this is more a testament to transparency than to actual values. The president has been approving this shit for decades.
>>72235600
>killing the families of terrorists
He doesn't actually support that. He wants to go after families and hold them responsible for not reporting their terrorist relative.
I don't give a shit if ISIS gets tortured; they don't deserve the respect that civilized army would have.
>>72236072
ISIS isn't the uniformed army of an internationally recognized state signatory to the Geneva convention, therefor they can't be war crimed
>>72236072
>american talking about war crimes
>literally nuked 2 civilian cities and wiped out entire indigenous populations
>>72236678
>muslims
>innocent
pick one.
every time they use human shields, stockpile their weapons in mosques and hospitals and schools so when Isreal bombs them they can claim it was an atrocity. Any muslim will aid and abed a jihadi, this is why you go after them with the same ferocity. if the average slime knows they are going to get tortured and killed, they'll start avoiding helping or start ratting them out.
>>72236072
Not if the families are terrorist cells themselves
>>72235702
Not necessarily. Wars are not decided on who killed more of the enemy.
>>72236971
All Finnish kids get vaccination. Coincidence? I think not.
>>72235600
>Ground troops to fight ISIS
Finally someone that isnt afraid of goatfuckers.
Drones is for cucks
>>72235702
People die when they are killed
>>72236971
Sounds like you are an autist
You are right
>>72237267
Why did we nuke the Japs?
>bring war to a fast end
>reduce casualties
>for the luls
But mainly for the luls. Nothing more hilarious than seeing 200K slant-eyes vaporize
>>72236971
He's right
Vaccines cause autism
>>72237074
>Kill them all, even the kids.
Then what are you fighting them for? Who would you be trying to protect by just charging into the middle east to destroy the place?
But of course Amerifats are so brainwashed that oil is worth dying for and committing atrocities in the name of protecting.
>>72235600
When the hell did he say kill the families of terrorists. Like directly, when did he say that.
>>72236971
There are thousands of cases of this happening, its happened so many times many people believe the vaccines, or the amount of vaccines taken are linked to autism. on their own, there is no indication that a single vaccine can cause autism,
but what about 20 vaccines in the span of 2 years? It's very hard to say, and yet very hard to ignore. No one wants to run tests to even determine what affect this is having on children, when the CDC should have been doing this years ago. You can't let the pharmaceutical companies do all the research on their own products and then use that as objective proof.
We need a third party investigation.
>>72237539
And to scary the commies
>>72237293
>Vietnam
>>72236741
Trudeau is such a fudge packer
>>72235600
How are they bad ideas?
>>72235702
First post, best post.
>>72237555
Whatever man enjoy slaving away in your Muslim infested garden I'll be sitting here free drinking lemonade on my porch.
>>72237573
Never. He said "go after the families".
>>72237680
Blowing up the homes of ISIS fighters seems absolutely tickety-boo to me.
>>72237654
Last I checked Trump isn't planning on invading us to exterminate Muslims.
>>72236733
>says he will end a war
>pull out the garrison
>insurgencies skyrocket
Kek. No one believed that would work, he just made things worse.
>>72237680
That could mean so many things. Questioning them, tracking them, hell knowing Trump it could mean charging them money for the damage their relative caused
>>72237091
So you mean train and arm neighboring countries to do the fighting for you?
The more Muslim children we kill, the less terrorists there will be in the future. They may look innocent now, but children grow up, and Muslim children grow up into terrorists. By killing them, we prevent the crimes they will commit in the future. It's like Minority Report and Precrime, only... more logical and efficient.
>>72237573
so if he said it indirectly then that makes it ok ?
>>72237778
SITTING ON MY PORCH DRINKING LEMONADE. CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE ALLAHU AHKBAR CACOPHONY.
>>72237555
>who are you trying to protect?
Everyone who isn't muslim.
>>72236585
This is common knowledge, nikker.
>>72237846
Better be nice to those peaceful muslims or else they'll blow us up!
>>72236072
The enemy isn't an established force, they are more like terrorist groups operating in secrecy and employing geurilla tactics.. The Geneva Convention does not offer protection against terrorists, therfore there is no war crime.
Move to the leaf country dumbass.
>>72237778
You and Sweden are probably going to be put on the Terrorism watch list, in a few years, we're most likely going to impose sanctions on you. You are a mass producer of terrorists, you aid and abed terrorists, and you defend terrorists more than your native population.
You are a terrorist country.
New Roman Empire
>>72235600
Nobody said war was pretty.
>>72236072
Trump is just being fucking extreme trying to get off the ride he made.
>>72237555
Wait... di- did you think we were trying to protect the "innocent Iraqis" in 2003? "Innocent Afghans" in 2001? O-oh... I'm sorry, that was propaganda. Guess you got duped.
>>72235600
Ask the generals what they think about them.
>>72235739
^ this is a relatively legitimate historical precedent
>>72237915
In the fucking centre of the Muslim world?
What's next? Invading Mexico to protect everyone who isn't Catholic?
>>72237273
You are assuming all Muslims "aid and abed Jihadis". While it appears a lot do in Muslim countries, that doesn't mean innocents don't exist. And it's lazy to think that way.
>>72235600
You want to end the war or drag it out? Answer that and you answer your dumb fucking question.
>>72235600
>>72238071
You fucking retard, we're trying to kill Muslims to protect the rest of the world from Islamic terrorism. Have you even been paying attention for the last 15 years?
Britcucks are consistently the worst posters on /pol/. They just don't get it.
>>72237893
You're projecting that's what he said but he didn't say it.
People do this a lot when criticizing Trump
>>72237867
That simply isn't true unless you kill every single one. Killing all the children from a Muslim community would turn every single Muslim into a hardcore terrorist and they'd just carry on having kids.
>>72235600
Yes, we're talking about war. If you show that you are willing to back down on certain actions because they are too "inhumane" then the enemy will exploit that. War is war and the only rule is to win.
>>72237861
In this specific scenario yes as ISIS only exists because of the USA. I'm not for backing any rebel groups, only supporting the Syrian and Iraqi governments (and allowing Russia to participate) until the situation has stabilized. Past that, the U.S. shouldn't get involved in any conflicts unless we are attacked on our own soil.
>>72238155
God's work anon.
>>72235600
I'm a libertarian, and of course pretty isolationist. I'm fairly principled, but honestly if it's better for America I can put them aside. If killing the families of terrorists and torture makes life better for me as an American, I say do it. If it makes America better, they can completely steamroll the entire middle east for all I care.
>>72237982
And proud.
>>72238053
No, I'm just amazed Americans have near dropped all pretenses of doing it for any reason other than pure self-interest.
>>72238240
Who said you'd be relegated to just the kids?
>>72235906
trump has something for everyone
that's why we all love him
>>72237594
but you won vietnam :^)
>>72238167
Who is this we? last time I checked USA supports Saudi Barbaria and Qatar, core of islamic terorrism, 100%.
>>72237293
>Brits
>Knowing how to win a war
>>72236327
Only thing is trump isn't Muslim. So your theory falls apart
The only questionable suggestion is to kill the families of terrorists. Although it seems like he didn't even say that >>72237680
>>72237902
Dont you realize that your talking to a shitskin first generation/immigrant muslim thats settles there? I mean its a self defeating argument.
>>72235600
War is cruelty.
Trump basically just said Israel is going to continue controlling our foreign policy. He becomes a worse and worse candidate the closer he gets to the general. This "presidential" Trump is shit. He never talks about deporting illegals anymore either because he's not actual going to do it.,
This guy literally took advantage of /pol/ and our memes to get him started by talking about deportation and banning Muslims and then turned his back on us. He's not going to be the president a lot of you think he will. I know this board has become cucked lately, so you may like it, but Trump is a cuck who used us to kick off his campaign.
He's actually ruining any chance we have of saving this country with his "come into the country LEGALLY bullshit". He is making it racist to be against immigration unless it's illegal. The problem in this country is demographic shifts, and Trump doesn't realize that and is making it worse. I'm still going to vote for him, but he is not pro white and is a cuck.
>>72238282
Surely you understand the inherent risks of arming nations other than your own? Especially middle eastern countries.
>>72238373
Well that's just impractical and never going to happen so there's really no point in talking about it, is there?
>>72236327
Go figure people go with others who share their ideals. More news at 11.
>>72238334
Well, we just realized that no one cares why we do things anymore. We stopped even trying to fabricate a casus belli a while back. I mean, it worked for a while- all the reasons for going to war that we used for, like, the last century and a half have been faked, except Pearl Harbor. But it's time to just be openly imperialistic desu desu.
>>72238429
Are you legit retarded?
>>72237555
>Then what are you fighting them for? Who would you be trying to protect by just charging into the middle east to destroy the place?
>british people are this retarded and cowardly
>>72238167
Yes and I also noticed that Muslims are generally the first line of defense against Islamic militants.
Particularly socialist Muslims.
>>72236072
Fuck the UN and Geneva Conventions. They were designed specifically to hamper the US.
Also, war has no place for light-loafered, aristocrat "gentlemen".
>>72238617
Another hole: the US is not ISIS.
>>72236072
Reminder that CNN says "kill their families," not Trump. He's never said that.
Trump supports "going after their families," meaning surveilling them, taking them into custody, and interrogating them. This would not be a war crime.
>>72238637
>Yes and I also noticed that Muslims are generally the first line of defense against Islamic militants.
Hey, there are nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world. If they wanted Islamism gone, it would be gone!
>>72238535
shill detected, fuck off
trump is a meme, not a serious candidate. It's obvious who the kikes have chosen to be the next president - the first black president followed by the first female president.
>>72238423
Yeah, it's been a lesser of two evils thing for us. You guys backed Syria because you needed that port in Tartus; we backed Saudi Arabia because we needed their oil and military bases in the Middle East. Russia is the only country acting logically in the Middle East right now.
>>72238704
It may as well be tbqh.
>>72238704
Jesus Christ, you pakis are really the zenith of human morals, all those fuckers around and poking a charred corpse.
>>72238774
Yes, and if they all wanted to eradicate the west things would be a lot worse than they already are.
Perhaps, it could just be, that Muslims are a large group of people with opinions varying according to each individual?
>>72236050
Those feelings you are feeling are the same ones that are allowing once proud britain to turn a yellow belly to the skies and offer up its own demise. You've grown soft, and the wolves are on your doorstep.
>>72238780
Trump fan boy detected. Trump could say he would put all whites in camps and some of you guys wouldn't even call him out on it. You're pathetic. Go back to /r/the_donald
>>72238937
Let god sort them out I don't have time to sift through their ideals.
>>72238637
It's retarded nonsensical thinking like this that's filled the East End with mudslimes and placed once-great London under Sharia law. And you actually wonder why you're going down the shitter? You can't play the ends against the middle like that, it doesn't work. Haven't you heard of the old lady that swallowed the fly?
>>72239027
>fan boy
stopped reading
>>72237936
Or just slaughter them like in 03
>>72238972
>Implying I'm sad the British empire is gone.
Good riddance, there's just a little bit left to go.
>>72236585
Go read quotes describing the U.S. Marines during WWI and WWII. You win wars by instilling the fear of indescribable retribution and terror in the minds of your enemies leaders.
If you want to be a pussy be a pacifist. There is no honor in war
>/pol/ belieces torture works because they see it work in movies
>>72238854
Ugh how dare the US torture peaceful al-Qaeda members and collaborators. This is exactly equivalent to what ISIS does to entire towns. Uh, problematic much?
Keep up that veiled defence of ISIS, Bilal.
>>72238937
Yes I was taking the piss out of the "if Muslims wanted us dead we'd be dead". Which is of course not true since we have superiority in every regard. The only thing they have on their side is a lack of mercy.
>>72239090
What does all that even mean?
>>72239027
Chaim, stop.
>>72235600
They are good ideas because this will wipe them all out.
>>72239134
>Ahmed decloaks
>enemies
Nigger you what
>>72236072
Geneva Convention only applies to nations that adhere to it.
>>72239176
It actually works better than movies.
>>72239134
If you're suicidal why don't you just commit suicide?
>>72239176
It's context sensitive.
>>72236971
>yfw autism is listed as a possible, albeit unlikely side-effect in FDA small-print regarding some vaccinations
Wew!
>>72235600
"Fighting terrorism" is an oxymoron. You win a war by being a better terrorist than your enemy. The enemy's ultimate support system is his family and friends. So you go into a country and kill absolutely everyone who disagrees with you, including their wives, children, grandparents and goats. That's the way wars used to be won, Old Testament style. In the Philippines that is exactly how it was done, before cell phone cameras and instant news:
> A soldier from New York: "The town of Titatia was surrendered to us a few days ago, and two companies occupy the same. Last night one of our boys was found shot and his stomach cut open. Immediately orders were received from General Wheaton to burn the town and kill every native in sight; which was done to a finish. About 1,000 men, women and children were reported killed. I am probably growing hard-hearted, for I am in my glory when I can sight my gun on some dark skin and pull the trigger."[118]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War
This is how you win a war in Afghanistan, for example: An IED blows up a vehicle in your convoy. Maybe some guys are killed and injured. What do you do? Go to the nearest town and kill everyone in it. Old men, women, children, and livestock included. Pile the bodies in the town square, pour fuel on them and burn them up. maybe barbecue a goat or two and break out some beers. This way, a message is sent to other villages not to support the "terrorists." But no. You have everyone and their sister in there with a cell phone recording everything, and 24/7 internet news. This is why the US has lost every war in recent history. War is not for the squeamish. You go in and destroy every god damned thing that is in the way of your objective. That's how you win. War is terrorism. Rules are for pussies.
>>72239238
>calling me Chaim after Trump just said Israel will continue to control our foreign policy
>>72237267
>Hirohito was a gud boi, Japan dindu nuffin
>Natives had excellent immune systems
wew lawd
>>72236971
He's not completely against vaccinations, he just doesn't want kids to get them all at once. Stagger it.
>>72237992
The world needs one
>>72235600
Because Islam is an ideology and not a nation in a traditional sense. To defeat an ideology you can go two paths. You can through the path of education and subversion to plant new ideas that will eventually overgrow the ideology you want to overthrow. Or you can simply kill everyone who holds that ideology so it can no longer propagate. Given those choices and the rigid dogma of Islam it would probably be much easier and less time consuming to kill off the people of Islam then it would be to civilize them.
>>72239381
We're better than that. If we just burnt down every single village we came across we'd be no better than the terrorists.
We aren't barbarians, we use precision. We don't kill innocents.
>>72239381
Well said.
>>72237680
technically you are going after their families, for example the not too old bombardment of mosul university and hospitals.
and what does go after the families mean ? go after them and polish their shoes and cook them lunch n dinner ? killing them or imprisoning them and torturing them, trump seems more like a very confident JW BUSH.
>>72238100
sorry, its not lazy, its an empirical fact. Most muslims are disgusting trash who would never hinder a jihadi and most would help them in any way they could. You are either a mudslime or extremely naive. Jihad, whether real or imagined, is a great honor and virutally every muslims respects those who wage jihad. Since that is never going to change, we must kill as many as possible.
>>72238535
Trump is the only candidate that said he would build a wall and deport all the illegals. No one else, so unless you have a better candidate for me to vote for, stfu.
>>72235600
Could win an election on that meme. Thanks OP. Vote Trump.
What's that?
>Torture is horrible and against international law!
>Guys Obama is the best president, he killed Osama Bin Laden. I mean... I don't know how they found that guy, it definitely didn't involve any torture I'm sure
>>72239616
Then you have a never-ending supply of fodder to throw themselves in front of your Precision because the support network is eternally uninterrupted.
>>72239157
lmao no.
The U.S won WW2 by selling materials to the Soviets and then sending in some troops to help the Brits and the frogs. There was no glorious scorched Earth campaign across the European countryside, or even the Pacific for that matter. But of course you're talking about the nukes, which of course the Americans are always keen to defend as more humane ultimately than a ground invasion of Japan.
Or of course you could look to Vietnam where America bombed the place into the dust and killed astronomical amounts of people yet lost anyway.
>There is no honor in war
Yes there is. Generally the armies that enter as liberators have an easier time than armies that enter being openly hostile to every civilian in the place.
>>72235600
> list 3 great strategies of winning a war that have been used succesfully for thousands of years.
> ask how are these good ideas
>>72239626
Whether you agree with him or not he knew how to stamp out an ideology and came very close to completion.
>>72238201
i don't criticize him, to hell with the usa, but it's obvious, his mentality is that of an aristocratic tyrant who knows nothing other than me me me
>>72239757
So be it. You idiots who think we can just somehow kill billions of Muslims are deluded. There is no easy solution to this.
>>72239666
>Trump is the only candidate that said he would build a wall and deport all the illegals. No one else, so unless you have a better candidate for me to vote for, stfu.
That's not really the point. Also, he will not be deporting them aggressively. He lied to us about that. That's why he never talks about it anymore
>>72239616
>If you kill me, you'll become just as bad as me!
you need to lay off the jrpgs for a while buddy
>>72235702
B-But DUDE WEED man said that if you kill your enemies then they win
>>72239381
Surely that won't result in blow back down the road.
You talk about using old tactics when the battlefield has changed. No one will feel bad about attacking remorseless butchers. One video of that ever getting out and no one will want to associate with you. Modern warfare is a tacticians game.
>>72239759
>Generally the armies that enter as liberators have an easier time than armies that enter being openly hostile to every civilian in the place.
Yeah man just look at Iraq.
>>72235721
I think you mean
>they're only terrahrists... because of global wahming
>>72238535
He's going to talk about illegals in his immigration speech you fucking retard
>>72236626
they arent space marines you know, they dont ignore pain or fear
most of them are uncompetent cowards and cant fight for shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I
>>72235600
>Kill the families of terrorists
Jesus Christ did he really said that?
>>72239197
Or, you know. What the US does to civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike
I'm not even defending ISIS. I would encourage a US invasion of the middle-east to destroy it, but this genocidal imperialism is absolutely insane.
>I don't understand Rhetoric
>>72239309
>>72239266
But I'm not British.
>>72239928
so its his consistent word against yours, a nobody on a chinese image service. hmmm....
if you don't have a better option, then stop typing fgt
>>72239759
>Generally the armies that enter as liberators have an easier time than armies that enter being openly hostile to every civilian in the place.
And that also depends on how receptive the civilian population is to being liberated.
>>72240081
no, but anti-Trumpers pretend he did.
>>72240081
In an interview about what he thinks should have been done about 9/11 he said we should 'take them out'
>>72239616
> we're better than that
LOL check out Obama's drone program, a continuation of Bush, who has the high score, I forget how many kids in a school with one bomb.
How are you supposed to win the "hearts and minds" of a people when you are an invader, killing their husbands, brothers and sons?
What would you do if a country ten times as big as America invaded, blew up DC, destroyed infrastructure, killed your leaders, then came to your town and tried to be friends? Would you be a collaborator or an insurgent?
Hearts and minds: Two rounds into the heart, one into the mind. End of story.
>>72240102
don't talk like you're so wholesome pure and innocent, you are just as bad as isis, except you convinced the masses that you're good and humane.
>>72238645
If there is no ceiling on what is acceptable in war then why not bring back chemical weapons and salt the earth tactics then?
>>72240022
>The US actually liberated anyone when they went into Iraq.
>Or even acted like they were trying given all the shock-and-awe nonsense.
>>72240006
>One video of that ever getting out and no one will want to associate with you
That was literally part of his point.
>>72240081
Even if he did what you gonna do about it leaf? Go back to being America's hat and keep my head warm silently.
>>72239919
No, we should put physical barriers between us and the Islamic world. Exterminate the Islamists that thrive in our shadow, reconcile with and strengthen secular rulers like Assad, set up trade agreements, and get out of there. Keep the savages at arm's length and let them develop as they wish.
>>72240283
If you kill your enemies, they win.
>>72240189
Send the British back to Britain before they turn into Mohammad.
>>72240287
I'm quite positive the IRA never razed towns and took the population as slaves.
If you bomb cities their families would die anyway, wouldn't need to target them specifically.
>>72235702
FPBP
>>72235600
how are they bad?
theyre excellent
>>72240289
yes, why not?
The best
>>72240421
delusional neckbeard.
>>72240102
HOLY SHIT!!!! how will the kuffars ever recover????
ISIS confirmed for morally equivalent to the entire West.
>>72240447
unless you fight a Necromancien that's not how it workd
>>72238428
>pretty much a 100% win record.
Name a war the US has won, WW2 doesn't count, you joined when it was basically over.
>>72239341
Despite this, in this cuntry vaccine manufacturers cannot be held liable, there is no vaccine court as exists in the US and government family payments are denied to non-vaccinators.
>>72239759
America backed out of Vietnam because of social pressure by people with your deluded ideals of war should be friendly, and it hasn't been the same since.
We'd have ended any credible threat in 2003 if the international community would just let us drone strike the middle east into oblivion and set up puppet states... but nooo can't do that, cause your forever on the losing side country can't understand how to get things done.
Turn the cameras off and let the armies slaughter these assholes. Then we can all move on
>>72240494
you're ira never mind then.
>>72240447
No, look at the Philippines. They are our best friends now because, over a century ago, we slaughtered absolutely everyone who disagreed with us. The USA won because there was no micromanagement of the battlefield.
>>72240683
>implying japan was "over" when America joined
>>72237539
Japanese were literally monsters during WW2 part of me thinks Muhrica found out and had no problem dropping 2 bombs.
>>72240308
They at least liberated the Shiites. That's the problem with multiculturalism, though. You can't stop oppressing one group without upsetting another group by taking away its privileged position.
>Or even acted like they were trying given all the shock-and-awe nonsense.
Shouldn't have given Iraq all that equipment and support in many fields.
>>72235600
they work despite what faggy liberal woosies say.
>>72240683
There was a war outside of Europe in which I recall the English doing fuck all.
>>72240571
IS-sympathizing cuckold.
>>72240755
the christo philes are, not the muzzie ones, the muzzies are slowly exterminating your loyalists.
>>72235600
you faggots don't realize the current status quo is the best plan of action
>CIA and Pentagon fund opposing extremist groups
>they attract extremists from around region and world who come to the desert to kill each other
>their battle lines form a barrier between Syria and Iran, preventing close coordination of 2 enemies of US Middle East policy.
>extremists die, Iran and Syria remain preoccupied
>2 birds with 1 stone
plus, nobody in American politics actually gives a fuck about collateral damage, migrant flood to the EU, or terrorist attacks in the EU. In fact, because the EU is the largest economic competitor to the US, anything that weakens the EU can be considered the 3rd bird struck down by that 1 stone.
The more instability in the ME, the more jihadis die. The more instability in the EU, the more US companies benefit internationally.
If we can also bait China into doing some stupid shit that hurts them, then it's literally another thousand years of American hegemony.
>>72235600
Sounds like a businessman selling a product to rubes.
I support that.
>>72240721
And also the fact they absolutely fucked the whole thing up by going in with no goals, and more or less no way to escalate the war without inviting Chinese intervention.
>Turn the cameras off and let the armies slaughter these assholes. Then we can all move on
The thing about war crimes on that scale is it wouldn't just make other Muslims hate and despise the USA. It would make everyone else hate and despise the USA.
>>72240421
If we're going to install friendly rulers there, why not just annex the land, put our own people there and ensure the growth of our people and our strength?
>>72240967
>Extremists die
Absolute kek.
Muslims breed like rabbits and spread their ilk, there is no getting rid of extremists without getting rid of them all.
>>72239666
>all Muslims aid and abed Jihadis
>its an empirical fact
no
>MOST Muslims are disgusting trash
>virtually every muslim respects those who wage jihad
So is it all? Or some/most?
>>72235600
Because coddling people that kill us turns out to be a poor tactic in warfare
>>72241059
>install
I didn't say install.
>>72241051
>It would make everyone else hate and despise the USA
So like now?
>>72236072
>war crime
Does not exist.
>>72240929
Personally I don't give a shit, but what goes around comes around, and humans are still primitive apes with high-tech weaponry. We still divide ourselves into "us versus them," so there will be blowback sooner or later. The endless cycle of revenge. Christians versus Muslims versus Jews. The Abrahamist cults violently arguing with each other over which version of the invisible sky psychopath is correct. Lord, protect me from your followers.
I agree with OP, terrible ideas because they are only half measures
>glass the middle east
should be the only stance
>>72240887
If you're going to chat shit about us mate you can take our flag out of your shit country's flag, don't remember you doing a lot in history, know your place cuck colonial
>>72241214
Most people are at worst cynically distrustful of the USA.
It's nothing compared to how outrageous a high-profile genocide would be.
>>72235600
When did Trump ever say this? Just the dishonest media shilling like they do
>>72236440
>"Sanders is literally the only candidate who isn't deepthroating Israeli cock like the others."
>would rather give the country to femongrels and niggers
Okay lol
>>72236072
thanks for the tl;dr i couldn't bear to read all of that
Kim Jong Un kills your 9th cousins when you litter, too
>>72241533
That's why any comments they make on trump disappear after two or three days because it's all smear campaign shit that never sticks.
>>72241464
It's amazing that so many people here think the US can just commit genocide 100x worse than the holocaust in the modern day and it will have no negative consequences
>>72241377
>British leadership sacrifice tens of thousands of Australians for fucking nothing in WW1
>Australia hasn't done a lot in history.
>>72241464
Exterminating terrorist groups isn't genocide, it's exterminating terrorist groups.
>>72236327
Surely you're not expecting a horde of racist retards to step back and examine their own double standards for even a moment? Murder, rape and torture are always wrong as long as it is the other guys doing it. When your side does it, it's righteous judgement.
>>72241675
But he's said all of those things. Poor beautiful zionist babies
>>72236072
Not in this case
The Geneva convention would classify isis as non uniformed combatants with no state. So yes, you can bomb the shit out of them, their families, and torture them.
>>72241688
The families of terrorists are not terrorists.
You can't kill innocent people of a specific ethnicity en masse and call it anything other than genocide. Not to mention the amount of people ITT that would like to murder every Muslim on the planet.
>>72241860
How had is it to comprehend that isis isn't a state and thus we are not bound by the Geneva convention when dealing with them.
>>72241860
>You can't kill innocent people of a specific ethnicity en masse
We can but you fucks want to drag it out and let the bodies slowly pile up over a decade long period without results. Could end this in a year if people weren't such hugbox pussies.
>>72241695
"Won't someone please think of the ISIS members?"
--some namefag, current year
>>72241860
>The families of terrorists are not terrorists.
Having the families of terrorists as collateral damage is also not genocide.
>You can't kill innocent people of a specific ethnicity
When did I say ethnicity?
>Not to mention the amount of people ITT that would like to murder every Muslim on the planet.
Islam isn't an ethnicity.
>>72241533
on the families of the 9/11 terrorists, he said we should "take them out" in an interview.
The interviewer kept asking him what he means by "take them out" and he wouldn't answer.
>>72241685
>tens of thousands of people is 'a lot in history'
kk
Honestly wish hed choose using drone strikes against ISIS instead of sending ground troops but so far thats the noly thing about Trump i disagree on.
>>72241683
>>72241860
>>72241860
>The families of terrorists are not terrorists.
Suuuure they aren't. ISIS are just radical black sheep of the families. Whole families, neighbourhoods, and communities don't gang up to protect them and support them. They are wholly innocent. They don't want to kill westerners at all. No families and wives and others have spoken out in support of their terrorist siblings tons of times before :)
MSM are doing fantastic things right now just by airing that image. Now these scumshit rats will have even more things to worry about.
>>72237555
They don't realize that religion is just another tool used to divide us.
